Labour’s still at about 1985. Yvette Cooper is a virtue-signalling nobody remembered if at all for the pointless and wasteful HIPs.
Ian Barton
2 years ago
Yvette Copper will help Labour ratings – if she stops banging on about identity politics and starts to recognise males as equal to women – but David Lammy is definitely a risk.
I’m sure Yvette “#refugeeswelcome” Cooper will be a great asset in the battle to stop illegal immigration. I still want to know how many asylum seekers she and Ed put up in their home as promised in 2016.
The trouble for a current Labour shadow cabinet is almost the same as the trouble that Starmer has. You can be somewhat anonymous or you can put your best talent forward into the limelight so everyone is reminded that they don’t trust you. They are all tainted by their/his attempts to undermine the Brexit vote. Maybe they knew it at the time and maybe they didn’t, but the stake for bet they placed on seeking a second referendum or the other shananigans in Parliament was their career. And they lost the bet.
It may well be that they are the best talent that Starmer has available but they are also a millstone around his neck and he theirs.
…Lammy? More than a risk. Hates this Country and most of the people in it…so he’ll be out there in the World agreeing with our enemies about what a vile place we are. Not a good look for voters in Red Wall seats cleaving to the “Flag, Faith and Family” version of Labour Party politics…
There’s a good chance Cooper will lose her seat at the next election. Her majority went from 15,000 to 1,000 at the last one. Wouldn’t take much for this Remainer to be booted.
Galeti Tavas
2 years ago
“It’s a poor craftsman that blames his tools”
Starmer is a poor craftsman, and his tools also need blaming. A new adage could be created just for this “A poor Craftsman with poor tools does a bad job.”
This has always struck me as a strange saying. When actually making physical objects, it is the people who are learning the craft who most have need of good tools. It is frustratingly difficult for an expert to get a good result with bad tools, but impossible for the novice. And, of course, it is the novices that are most often suffering under the burden of bad or inappropriate tools, because they lacked the judgement to avoid them. “There’s a reason that thing you just bought was so inexpensive.” comes to play, among other things.
Well, I am actually a professional tradesman, carpentry mostly – but all the rest too, and you should see my tools, thousands of them as I do all the trades to some extent….And they are all in heaps and piles of disarray, and many rusted and worn to nubs – and although I often use low grade tools, (homeowner grade) there really is a difference. But you are right – a good tradesman can get by with low quality tools – but they make it a lot harder.
I can pick up identical looking tools and right away know which is professional grade, and which is not – tools are odd, they eventually become an extension of yourself. Like all carpenters when I take hold of my ‘Skill saw’ (hand held circular saw) it is almost like a prosthetic, it just is sort of one with me – like a tennis pro must be with their racket – One’s hammer becomes sort of like personal – it becomes Yours, your hammer, from so much use of it, a different one just seems wrong sort of and you want yours if misplaced instead of picking up some other.
I am just putting off studying… in two days I take my contractor’s license test – what a huge pain in the a**, so I shirk by being on line – but off to study that Cra* again…. 9 big text books…..$800 worth of them, and for all I know the test is easy – or hard….,
New Packaging! New Recipe! Same lack of effectiveness.
jill dowling
2 years ago
Starmer is even more hopeless than I thought. Three illiberal elites, with Emily Thornberry taking the crown. Don’t worry Boris, you can do whatever you like, you are safe.
Ian Barton
2 years ago
Given Labour’s constitution, there was no way Starmer could “clean the stables” in one hit, so this was always likely.
Last edited 2 years ago by Ian Barton
Billy Bob
2 years ago
Labour needs to reclaim its Brexity former heartlands if it’s to get anywhere near Downing Street. I’m not sure Remainers who still attack working class Brexit voters such as Cooper and Lammy are the best people to do this personally
David Percival
2 years ago
This makes Labour even more like the Tories as he shuffles to the right. All the promises he made to get elected leader now thrown out of the window. There is effectively no difference between Labour and Tories. If I bother to vote it will have to be Green I suppose.
David Percival
2 years ago
Starmer has broken the pledge to keep to left policies when he was elected leader and his actions show there is little difference between Labour and Tory parties. If I vote next time I suppose it will have to be Green.
Labour’s still at about 1985. Yvette Cooper is a virtue-signalling nobody remembered if at all for the pointless and wasteful HIPs.
Yvette Copper will help Labour ratings – if she stops banging on about identity politics and starts to recognise males as equal to women – but David Lammy is definitely a risk.
I’m sure Yvette “#refugeeswelcome” Cooper will be a great asset in the battle to stop illegal immigration. I still want to know how many asylum seekers she and Ed put up in their home as promised in 2016.
The trouble for a current Labour shadow cabinet is almost the same as the trouble that Starmer has. You can be somewhat anonymous or you can put your best talent forward into the limelight so everyone is reminded that they don’t trust you. They are all tainted by their/his attempts to undermine the Brexit vote. Maybe they knew it at the time and maybe they didn’t, but the stake for bet they placed on seeking a second referendum or the other shananigans in Parliament was their career. And they lost the bet.
It may well be that they are the best talent that Starmer has available but they are also a millstone around his neck and he theirs.
…Lammy? More than a risk. Hates this Country and most of the people in it…so he’ll be out there in the World agreeing with our enemies about what a vile place we are. Not a good look for voters in Red Wall seats cleaving to the “Flag, Faith and Family” version of Labour Party politics…
Agree, he’s thick as mince and an absolute gift to the Tories. Increased majority next time, I reckon.
There’s a good chance Cooper will lose her seat at the next election. Her majority went from 15,000 to 1,000 at the last one. Wouldn’t take much for this Remainer to be booted.
“It’s a poor craftsman that blames his tools”
Starmer is a poor craftsman, and his tools also need blaming. A new adage could be created just for this “A poor Craftsman with poor tools does a bad job.”
This has always struck me as a strange saying. When actually making physical objects, it is the people who are learning the craft who most have need of good tools. It is frustratingly difficult for an expert to get a good result with bad tools, but impossible for the novice. And, of course, it is the novices that are most often suffering under the burden of bad or inappropriate tools, because they lacked the judgement to avoid them. “There’s a reason that thing you just bought was so inexpensive.” comes to play, among other things.
Well, I am actually a professional tradesman, carpentry mostly – but all the rest too, and you should see my tools, thousands of them as I do all the trades to some extent….And they are all in heaps and piles of disarray, and many rusted and worn to nubs – and although I often use low grade tools, (homeowner grade) there really is a difference. But you are right – a good tradesman can get by with low quality tools – but they make it a lot harder.
I can pick up identical looking tools and right away know which is professional grade, and which is not – tools are odd, they eventually become an extension of yourself. Like all carpenters when I take hold of my ‘Skill saw’ (hand held circular saw) it is almost like a prosthetic, it just is sort of one with me – like a tennis pro must be with their racket – One’s hammer becomes sort of like personal – it becomes Yours, your hammer, from so much use of it, a different one just seems wrong sort of and you want yours if misplaced instead of picking up some other.
I am just putting off studying… in two days I take my contractor’s license test – what a huge pain in the a**, so I shirk by being on line – but off to study that Cra* again…. 9 big text books…..$800 worth of them, and for all I know the test is easy – or hard….,
Good luck with it!
New Packaging! New Recipe! Same lack of effectiveness.
Starmer is even more hopeless than I thought. Three illiberal elites, with Emily Thornberry taking the crown. Don’t worry Boris, you can do whatever you like, you are safe.
Given Labour’s constitution, there was no way Starmer could “clean the stables” in one hit, so this was always likely.
Labour needs to reclaim its Brexity former heartlands if it’s to get anywhere near Downing Street. I’m not sure Remainers who still attack working class Brexit voters such as Cooper and Lammy are the best people to do this personally
This makes Labour even more like the Tories as he shuffles to the right. All the promises he made to get elected leader now thrown out of the window. There is effectively no difference between Labour and Tories. If I bother to vote it will have to be Green I suppose.
Starmer has broken the pledge to keep to left policies when he was elected leader and his actions show there is little difference between Labour and Tory parties. If I vote next time I suppose it will have to be Green.