No evidence is provided for this claim
The accusation itself is the evidence. That should have become clear during the Covid debacle.
Steve Jolly
1 month ago
Cold War 2 is on, so let’s consider some things that happened during the first one. Both sides tried to spy on the other for just about every secret, military, political, or otherwise. Both sides produced two sets of propaganda, one for their own citizens and one to be aimed at the other side however they could smuggle it in. Both sides tried to organize and set the citizens of the other side against the government. Both sides tried to sow discontent between allies. Both sides blamed the other for almost everything that happened that impacted either of them. Sometimes they both blamed each other for the same event. A revolt in Prague was the work of CIA spies. A socialist party takeover in Argentina is international communism trying to take over the world. It was ubiquitous enough to seem trite by the time the conflict ended in 1991.
Keep in mind that all this happened before the Internet, social media, and smart phones. Those inventions have now multiplied the amount of information consumed by the public by several orders of magnitude and diffused it among dozens of platforms, channels, media organizations tech companies, and even individual citizens sharing on social media or posting on message boards or in comments like these. Trying to control all of this, or even just keep track of it, is like trying to catch every falling leaf before it hits the ground in an autumn forest on a particularly blustery day. Even with somebody standing at every tree, it’s impossible to catch every single one. Some will make it past even the most diligent.
What that means is thathe number of things that can be plausibly blamed on the other side has skyrocketed. Every hacked server, every security breach, every leaked email, every server attack, can be laid at the feet of the other side’s cyber-warfare division. The chances of ever proving or disproving such claims have fallen to almost nil. Whoever did it would have to admit it, show everyone how, and that might still not convince everyone. Even truly ridiculous nonsense like leaking the royal family’s personal information is fertile ground for governments and any other interest party to cultivate animus towards the other side by blaming it on cyber warfare, which is what this exercise is really about. This is how governments sell war, hot or cold, to the masses and get support for increased military spending and/or various sanctions packages. In the old days, if you wanted to start a war, you had to wait for an Archduke to be assassinated or a boat to be blown up to have an excuse for war, but cyber attacks and hacking occurs every single day. Both sides have an endless supply of excuses to trot out whenever they need the people to rally behind some new policy or sanctions package. Buckle up folks because the second cold war stands to be a lot bumpier and crazier than the first.
UnHerd Reader
1 month ago
Don’t be daft. No one believes that for a minute apart from the media; which seems to comprise wholly of opinion pieces design to fuels chatter on social media and comment sections.
Allison Barrows
1 month ago
Foreign governments have many ways to infiltrate and disrupt Western societies (Chinese students in universities, and shadow police in Britain, for two examples).
But this is like saying Taylor Swift is a Democrat Party operative.
The trouble with the media – social and supposedly serious – is the children running it. Most of what is passed off as information is unreadable, barely literate drivel by little girls who never left the eighth grade. It’s staggering how little they know about anything other than pop culture.
I wish the princess a swift and full recovery, and her family regain their dignified privacy.
No
No evidence is provided for this claim
The accusation itself is the evidence. That should have become clear during the Covid debacle.
Cold War 2 is on, so let’s consider some things that happened during the first one. Both sides tried to spy on the other for just about every secret, military, political, or otherwise. Both sides produced two sets of propaganda, one for their own citizens and one to be aimed at the other side however they could smuggle it in. Both sides tried to organize and set the citizens of the other side against the government. Both sides tried to sow discontent between allies. Both sides blamed the other for almost everything that happened that impacted either of them. Sometimes they both blamed each other for the same event. A revolt in Prague was the work of CIA spies. A socialist party takeover in Argentina is international communism trying to take over the world. It was ubiquitous enough to seem trite by the time the conflict ended in 1991.
Keep in mind that all this happened before the Internet, social media, and smart phones. Those inventions have now multiplied the amount of information consumed by the public by several orders of magnitude and diffused it among dozens of platforms, channels, media organizations tech companies, and even individual citizens sharing on social media or posting on message boards or in comments like these. Trying to control all of this, or even just keep track of it, is like trying to catch every falling leaf before it hits the ground in an autumn forest on a particularly blustery day. Even with somebody standing at every tree, it’s impossible to catch every single one. Some will make it past even the most diligent.
What that means is thathe number of things that can be plausibly blamed on the other side has skyrocketed. Every hacked server, every security breach, every leaked email, every server attack, can be laid at the feet of the other side’s cyber-warfare division. The chances of ever proving or disproving such claims have fallen to almost nil. Whoever did it would have to admit it, show everyone how, and that might still not convince everyone. Even truly ridiculous nonsense like leaking the royal family’s personal information is fertile ground for governments and any other interest party to cultivate animus towards the other side by blaming it on cyber warfare, which is what this exercise is really about. This is how governments sell war, hot or cold, to the masses and get support for increased military spending and/or various sanctions packages. In the old days, if you wanted to start a war, you had to wait for an Archduke to be assassinated or a boat to be blown up to have an excuse for war, but cyber attacks and hacking occurs every single day. Both sides have an endless supply of excuses to trot out whenever they need the people to rally behind some new policy or sanctions package. Buckle up folks because the second cold war stands to be a lot bumpier and crazier than the first.
Don’t be daft. No one believes that for a minute apart from the media; which seems to comprise wholly of opinion pieces design to fuels chatter on social media and comment sections.
Foreign governments have many ways to infiltrate and disrupt Western societies (Chinese students in universities, and shadow police in Britain, for two examples).
But this is like saying Taylor Swift is a Democrat Party operative.
The trouble with the media – social and supposedly serious – is the children running it. Most of what is passed off as information is unreadable, barely literate drivel by little girls who never left the eighth grade. It’s staggering how little they know about anything other than pop culture.
I wish the princess a swift and full recovery, and her family regain their dignified privacy.