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Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago

While I am no fan of Andrew Tate, I understand the appeal. Young men are allowed very few forms of self-expression these days unless they go the LGBTQ route. Men such as Tate are a natural counter to boys who are feeling demoralized by society’s endless attempts to emasculate them. Indeed, much of our society (schools, colleges, media) treats them as defective humans that need to be educated into becoming ‘nice men’ who are taught to believe that women are infallible. As such many of them are seeking refuge in gaming or on fora that affirm their masculinity.
A society that scorns its men will eventually turn on its women, transgender ideology being the perfect example of that. Under such conditions the center cannot hold. Reason and rationale are giving way to fear and intolerance. Already the West is splitting into two opposing realities that cannot coexist. The reality that wins will be the one that is able to successfully channel male anger. There will almost certainly be a new world order in our lifetimes, but it won’t be the one that old and tired organizations like the WEF, the UN, the EU or Bill Gates Foundation have envisioned for us.

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Tate is cancelled and labelled a misogynist in every article; almost always by people who have only ever heard selected short clips of his interviews that are intentionally taken out of context. Many who dismiss Tate have never heard anything by him. Given the significant percentage of boys and men who have a positive opinion of his views, wouldn’t it make sense to try to understand why? What percentage of women, including mothers of boys, have made any effort to understand why their sons are listening to Tate? Very few I suspect. And yet, how can you change your son’s views if you don’t really understand what you are fighting against. For anyone who truly wants to understand more I’ll provide the name of a YouTube video in the post below.

“Andrew Tate being a Genius in Money for 13 minutes straight”

https://youtu.be/Z2mmfepKVKQ

William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Tate is cancelled and labelled a misogynist in every article; almost always by people who have only ever heard selected short clips of his interviews that are intentionally taken out of context. Many who dismiss Tate have never heard anything by him. Given the significant percentage of boys and men who have a positive opinion of his views, wouldn’t it make sense to try to understand why? What percentage of women, including mothers of boys, have made any effort to understand why their sons are listening to Tate? Very few I suspect. And yet, how can you change your son’s views if you don’t really understand what you are fighting against. For anyone who truly wants to understand more I’ll provide the name of a YouTube video in the post below.

“Andrew Tate being a Genius in Money for 13 minutes straight”

https://youtu.be/Z2mmfepKVKQ

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago

While I am no fan of Andrew Tate, I understand the appeal. Young men are allowed very few forms of self-expression these days unless they go the LGBTQ route. Men such as Tate are a natural counter to boys who are feeling demoralized by society’s endless attempts to emasculate them. Indeed, much of our society (schools, colleges, media) treats them as defective humans that need to be educated into becoming ‘nice men’ who are taught to believe that women are infallible. As such many of them are seeking refuge in gaming or on fora that affirm their masculinity.
A society that scorns its men will eventually turn on its women, transgender ideology being the perfect example of that. Under such conditions the center cannot hold. Reason and rationale are giving way to fear and intolerance. Already the West is splitting into two opposing realities that cannot coexist. The reality that wins will be the one that is able to successfully channel male anger. There will almost certainly be a new world order in our lifetimes, but it won’t be the one that old and tired organizations like the WEF, the UN, the EU or Bill Gates Foundation have envisioned for us.

Lennon Ó Náraigh
Lennon Ó Náraigh
1 year ago

The European Union has initiated “Rule of Law Proceedings” against Poland and Hungary for going their own way on social and cultural issues. Andrew Tate has been detained without bail or formal charges in Romania for five months now. Should I look forward to the EU taking the same robust approach against Romania?

Lennon Ó Náraigh
Lennon Ó Náraigh
1 year ago

The European Union has initiated “Rule of Law Proceedings” against Poland and Hungary for going their own way on social and cultural issues. Andrew Tate has been detained without bail or formal charges in Romania for five months now. Should I look forward to the EU taking the same robust approach against Romania?

JMN Gould
JMN Gould
1 year ago

The skillset of which he really is a master is that of generating publicity. The information economy is an economy of attention. He’s part of the trickster archetype we’ve been seeing everywhere: from Trump to the IDW to the fragmented pockets of people speaking up and saying what they think in the the public square, whether it be podcasting or wherever in the new media landscape – which the internet has facilitated. He’s disruptive and there are good reasons why the status quo needs to be disrupted at some fundamental level. In the midst of global battles on the psychological front and the economic front, he seems to have an audience of young men who realise that if they want to get to the top; they’re gonna have to fight for it; and look to him for motivation and tips or whatever, the same way they might look to any other influencer on social media. It’s business.

JMN Gould
JMN Gould
1 year ago

The skillset of which he really is a master is that of generating publicity. The information economy is an economy of attention. He’s part of the trickster archetype we’ve been seeing everywhere: from Trump to the IDW to the fragmented pockets of people speaking up and saying what they think in the the public square, whether it be podcasting or wherever in the new media landscape – which the internet has facilitated. He’s disruptive and there are good reasons why the status quo needs to be disrupted at some fundamental level. In the midst of global battles on the psychological front and the economic front, he seems to have an audience of young men who realise that if they want to get to the top; they’re gonna have to fight for it; and look to him for motivation and tips or whatever, the same way they might look to any other influencer on social media. It’s business.

Steven Carr
Steven Carr
1 year ago

There is a remarkable contrast between Andrew Tate and his father Emory Andrew Tate. who was a trailblazer for African-American chess and smashed the stereotype that Black people could not play chess at a time when the game was dominated almost entirely by white people.
Like father, like son…. Not always, it seems.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Steven Carr

“smashed the stereotype that Black people could not play chess at a time when the game was dominated almost entirely by white people.”
*smashed the stereotype that black people could not play chess at a time when the game was dominated almost entirely by White people.

Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

Good catch. As an English teacher I absolutely abhor this attempt to single a people out based on a rather inaccurate descriptor of a physical characteristic. Its only purpose it to create antagonism between groups of people, particularly those who pose a threat to the ruling class.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Thank you. I always, always call out this obnoxiousness.

Last edited 1 year ago by Richard Craven
Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Julian Farrows

Thank you. I always, always call out this obnoxiousness.

Last edited 1 year ago by Richard Craven
Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  Richard Craven

Good catch. As an English teacher I absolutely abhor this attempt to single a people out based on a rather inaccurate descriptor of a physical characteristic. Its only purpose it to create antagonism between groups of people, particularly those who pose a threat to the ruling class.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago
Reply to  Steven Carr

“smashed the stereotype that Black people could not play chess at a time when the game was dominated almost entirely by white people.”
*smashed the stereotype that black people could not play chess at a time when the game was dominated almost entirely by White people.

Steven Carr
Steven Carr
1 year ago

There is a remarkable contrast between Andrew Tate and his father Emory Andrew Tate. who was a trailblazer for African-American chess and smashed the stereotype that Black people could not play chess at a time when the game was dominated almost entirely by white people.
Like father, like son…. Not always, it seems.

j watson
j watson
1 year ago

There’s alot of the snowflake in Tate and his ilk. ‘It’s not fair that I have to grow up and start behaving like a decent adult and you suggesting I should is terrible emasculation of my true nature’. Oh please spare us your sufferings. It’s pathetic. Always was a snake-oil merchant too.
As chance would have it was at a premier league football match over weekend. Pretty tribal, overwhelmingly male, but less so than 20yrs ago. Certainly alot that felt like a communal male experience, and without the racist chanting that was de rigeur a decade or two ago. Things can get better without losing the Y chromosome.

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

I wholeheartedly agree with you (which makes a change!)
The spectacle of males whingeing at feeling “emasculated” is beyond parody. What they really mean is they’re having trouble competing with females now that females are granted the same access to positions of power and leadership. Time to “up their game” rather than resorting to the caricature of male exploitation represented by Tate.

Last edited 1 year ago by Steve Murray
William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Murray

Your opinion expressed above is in 100 percent agreement with that expressed by Andrew Tate.
You summed up his message perfectly. It’s the message that many boys and young men are taking to heart. It contrasts with the feminist platitudes they are subjected to in school and which the majority of boys find alien and reject.

Last edited 1 year ago by William Shaw
William Shaw
William Shaw
1 year ago
Reply to  Steve Murray

Your opinion expressed above is in 100 percent agreement with that expressed by Andrew Tate.
You summed up his message perfectly. It’s the message that many boys and young men are taking to heart. It contrasts with the feminist platitudes they are subjected to in school and which the majority of boys find alien and reject.

Last edited 1 year ago by William Shaw
Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

What does it actually mean though to be ‘a decent adult’, though? I think definitions may very.

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

I wholeheartedly agree with you (which makes a change!)
The spectacle of males whingeing at feeling “emasculated” is beyond parody. What they really mean is they’re having trouble competing with females now that females are granted the same access to positions of power and leadership. Time to “up their game” rather than resorting to the caricature of male exploitation represented by Tate.

Last edited 1 year ago by Steve Murray
Julian Farrows
Julian Farrows
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

What does it actually mean though to be ‘a decent adult’, though? I think definitions may very.

j watson
j watson
1 year ago

There’s alot of the snowflake in Tate and his ilk. ‘It’s not fair that I have to grow up and start behaving like a decent adult and you suggesting I should is terrible emasculation of my true nature’. Oh please spare us your sufferings. It’s pathetic. Always was a snake-oil merchant too.
As chance would have it was at a premier league football match over weekend. Pretty tribal, overwhelmingly male, but less so than 20yrs ago. Certainly alot that felt like a communal male experience, and without the racist chanting that was de rigeur a decade or two ago. Things can get better without losing the Y chromosome.

Adam Wolstenholme
Adam Wolstenholme
1 year ago

The anti-male elements of our culture have created an opportunity for men like Tate to thrive. It’s not hard to see the appeal for young boys lacking encouragement elsewhere. But he’s still sinister, and not on their side, as I argue here …
https://adamjwolstenholme.blogspot.com/2023/02/andrew-tate-is-not-your-friend.html

Adam Wolstenholme
Adam Wolstenholme
1 year ago

The anti-male elements of our culture have created an opportunity for men like Tate to thrive. It’s not hard to see the appeal for young boys lacking encouragement elsewhere. But he’s still sinister, and not on their side, as I argue here …
https://adamjwolstenholme.blogspot.com/2023/02/andrew-tate-is-not-your-friend.html

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago

Even though he arguably has some kind of point, Andrew Tate is still a social outcast. Imagine if your daughter brought him home.

Richard Craven
Richard Craven
1 year ago

Even though he arguably has some kind of point, Andrew Tate is still a social outcast. Imagine if your daughter brought him home.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

the most frightful oik.

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago

the most frightful oik.