Several months after interviewing Dominic Cummings, podcast host Dwarkesh Patel has bagged another big-name guest from British politics. In a new interview, former prime minister Tony Blair told Patel that, having previously advocated a strict tiered system during the pandemic, he now believes that Covid lockdowns in the developing world “did more harm than good”.

The former Labour leader added that “part of the problem was that governments weren’t sure where to go for advice,” and that leaders had “to balance [scientific advice] with the needs of their economy and the anxiety a lot of people had”. Ultimately, Blair argued, “you can’t really leave [the decision to lock down] to [politicians] because that’s not their expertise.”

In the 52-minute chat, Blair also labelled the process of governing as “a conspiracy for inertia”, and stated that “we live in a multipolar world today. Personally I think that’s a good thing. In any event, it’s an inevitable thing.” No doubt we can expect such provocative soundbites from the present Labour leader in tonight’s debate…