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Liz Truss: Britain is already a socialist country

Liz Truss speaks at Conservative Party conference on 30 September 2024. Credit: Getty

September 30, 2024 - 2:25pm

Britain is “already a socialist country”, Liz Truss claimed at Conservative Party conference early this afternoon.

Speaking to journalist Tim Stanley in Birmingham, the former prime minister said that “we’re already in socialism”, a process exacerbated by the Labour government “spending 45% of GDP” and through having “huge swathes of the economy controlled by regulation and the bureaucracy”. She added that the UK’s socialist turn started under the Conservatives, during a period when the country “had record taxes” and “state spending of 45%”.

In her only appearance at this year’s party conference, Truss accused Keir Starmer’s Labour of saying “we need more taxes, we need bigger government, we need more regulation”. She also stated that, despite Brexit, “Britain has become more of a European-style economy and less of a capitalist economy over the past 14 years” — dating to the Conservatives’ general election victory and entry into coalition with the Liberal Democrats in 2010.

Pinning blame on the Tories as well as their successors in Downing Street, the former Conservative leader argued that “I don’t think we can say that all the problems Britain has now are to do with the terrible government of the Labour Party.” While she referred to Labour’s analysis of national decline as “totally flawed”, Truss acknowledged that her own party “failed to take on the Blairite-Brownist statist orthodoxy”.

Truss today extended her criticism to “state institutions”, citing the Treasury, the Bank of England and the Office for Budget Responsibility as examples of organisations whose groupthink holds sway over Westminster. She alleged that “successive Conservative governments went along with the economic orthodoxy, loose monetary policy, giving control to the Bank of England, accepting the judgements of the OBR”, and suggested that the party “outsourced economic policy so it wasn’t being decided by the Chancellor”. Truss also singled out Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey as “unsackable”, claiming that he should receive far more “media scrutiny”.

In an interview in which she also blamed Nigel Farage’s Reform UK for causing her to lose her seat in July’s general election. She also argued that “there is a battle now to save not just Britain, but Western civilisation”, with her at the forefront, suggesting that the British establishment has gone from being run by “fuddy-duddy conservatives” to “the liberal Left”. As well as the Tories allegedly proving powerless to prevent the march of socialism in the UK, the former PM argued that “there’s been a cultural battle that conservatives have failed to stand up to.”

Many of the arguments expounded on by Truss in Birmingham this afternoon were made in book published earlier this year, shortly before she lost her seat in South West Norfolk, Ten Years to Save the West. As well as claiming today that Britain was a socialist country, Truss said the same of Australia, the United States, Canada, France and Germany. As for the Tories, her assessment could be shortened further: “We are no longer the party of the establishment.”


is UnHerd’s Deputy Editor, Newsroom.

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Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
5 hours ago

More correct, I think, to describe Britain as corporatist. The narrow oligarchy that runs this country does so principally for its own benefit and that of the bureaucratic and corporate vested interests.

Nobody deliberately sets out to undermine democracy, they simply persuade themselves that what is good for their class must therefore, by definition, be good for everyone.

This is why we will not recover until we undertake major political reform that gives everyone a voice – not just a few bubble-dwelling Oxbridge graduates.

T Bone
T Bone
3 hours ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

I think Market Socialism is the correct term. It’s not Laissez-faire Capitalism nor is it Communism. Its a “Holistic Wellness” economy administered through public-private partnerships.

John Tyler
John Tyler
2 hours ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

On the contrary, there are glaring examples of people today who are desperately trying to undermine democracy.
Your final paragraph is spot on, though the issue is surely rather wider than Oxbridge grads.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
2 hours ago
Reply to  John Tyler

though the issue is surely rather wider than Oxbridge grads
Well, they do run pretty well everything – Both political partiers, the BBC, the Civil Service and pretty much the entire establishment media.

Bret Larson
Bret Larson
2 hours ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

You can solve your problem by de establishing Oxford .

Rachel Taylor
Rachel Taylor
1 hour ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Yes, it is actually quite astonishing. 40% of the Labour Cabinet went to Oxbridge, down slightly from 45% under Sunak. It is extraordinary that our political leaders are drawn from such a narrow subset of the population.

David Morley
David Morley
59 minutes ago
Reply to  Rachel Taylor

I think it is fair to say that everything is becoming more concentrated in the hands of a narrow group – wealth included. Unless something prevents this happening, it is likely to coalesce into a rigid hereditary elite – a new aristocracy.

As Pikkety has shown, this is the more natural outcome of capitalist economies – with the period of relative equality and social mobility up to the 70s being an exception brought about largely by two world wars and related upheavals.

David Morley
David Morley
4 hours ago

As well as claiming today that Britain was a socialist country, Truss said the same of Australia, the United States, Canada, France and Germany.

Not Austria though.

Last edited 4 hours ago by David Morley
John Tyler
John Tyler
3 hours ago

She’s correct, of course. Her focus on values is commendable and her criticism of the Blob’s left-leaning groupthink is entirely fair. It’s a shame she’s not really PM material.

Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
5 hours ago

‘Truss today extended her criticism to “state institutions”, citing the Treasury, the Bank of England and the Office for Budget Responsibility as examples of organisations whose groupthink holds sway over Westminster. She alleged that “successive Conservative governments went along with the economic orthodoxy, loose monetary policy, giving control to the Bank of England, accepting the judgements of the OBR”, and suggested that the party “outsourced economic policy so it wasn’t being decided by the Chancellor”. Truss also singled out Bank of England Governor Andrew Bailey as “unsackable”, claiming that he should receive far more “media scrutiny”.’

I agree with all that, though she should go international with it – the UK is just part of a wider economic groupthink.

It’s a shame she was an idiot when she had the opportunity to do something about it though.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
2 hours ago
Reply to  Dennis Roberts

It’s a shame she was an idiot when she had the opportunity to do something about it though.
She really never had that opportunity. Every Prime Minister now is weaker than the last. Starmer will only survive so long as he does what he’s told.

Dennis Roberts
Dennis Roberts
2 hours ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Unfunded tax cuts for high earners was not a bright move when we had a substantial deficit and high levels of debt. It was inevitably going to go badly and by doing that she destroyed her own opportunity to address the above.

Michael Cazaly
Michael Cazaly
15 minutes ago
Reply to  Dennis Roberts

Not spending doesn’t require “funding”. It is spending which does require funding.

The term “unfunded tax cuts” is a total nonsense, designed as a derogatory term to disparage allowing people to keep their own money.

David Morley
David Morley
5 hours ago

Someone needs to tell her that not everything in the particular internet bubble she inhabits is actually true! Top marks for sheer nerve though.