Set aside the overly convenient dichotomy of Right and Left, and the comforting illusion of the Centre, and think instead in terms of orthodox and heterodox. The former always conforms, whatever the climate, however shameless. The latter didn’t fit then, doesn’t fit now and will never fit.
But the idea that Nick Cave’s religiosity is suddenly a problem or even a recent conversion is belied by most of his discography. In fact, it was those looming biblical shadows that first attracted me to his work and at times alienated me from it. Now a recovering Catholic, I was educated in schools run by nuns and priests and repeatedly locked horns with them. At the time, the church was infallible, hardly bothering to conceal its horrendous crimes against women and children in Ireland and beyond. It wasn’t just taboo to raise issues of abuse, homophobia, hypocrisy etc. It was forbidden to ask questions. I would ask the priests questions about the strange, puzzling details I’d chanced upon in the stories and language of the King James Bible and was completely unprepared for the hostility such enquiries would ignite. I realise now it was simply a case of orthodoxy. Questions, any sign of curiosity, were a threat to dogma. The Christian flock was not supposed to bleat, even if some had got wind of the slaughterhouse.
From the beginning, the Bad Seeds lyrics were steeped in that misty Jacobean version of the Bible. It was there in their album titles — Kicking Against the Pricks, The Good Son — and in countless songs. For every murder ballad, a spiritual. It’s even there in their name, with the Bad Seeds originating in the Good Book. This was a rich mine, and what was salvaged could be adapted in surprising subversive ways. When he used Jesus or God, at times he might just as well be singing about drugs, sex, pain, or love and its catastrophes. The themes allowed for the illumination of life at its most wretched and beautiful. It’s almost animist at heart but fed through Christian iconography – the thorns and the waves and the errant stars.
Witnessing the unfolding church scandals and how those who’d spoken out publicly like Sinéad O’Connor were made into scapegoats or sineaters, I gradually transformed into a righteous little bastard or to put it another way an evangelising atheist. Twenty years ago, I saw the Bad Seeds on their incendiary Abattoir Blues / The Lyre of Orpheus and left in a state of shock, such was their energy and charisma. Yet I felt a nagging reluctance in my heart. Cave’s brilliant, frenzied tent revivalist/snake handler/faith healer performance set off alarm bells. Having escaped one cult, albeit a very powerful 2,000-year-old one, I was overly cautious about signing up for another.
Eventually, I realised there was a reactionary mirroring quality to atheism, where you could become as self-righteous and rigid as your enemy, defined and controlled by a form of negation. Mainly, I was turned off by the joyless tiresomeness of some of its primary advocates. I also had not suffered quite enough to be relieved of certain egocentric illusions. I had not yet come to know the things you don’t want are the things that give your life real knowledge — grief, heartbreak, illness, estrangement and exile. But where do you go when you begin to doubt your own doubt?
It turns out Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds were already there. The religiosity in the songs was built from doubt, suffering, absurdity, closer to Dostoevsky or existentialism than tele-evangelism. We are in the eternal, the songs tell us, every little moment, and life and death are in here with us. Wild God feels like an opening and a radical one, given the constriction we’re increasingly subject to. How narrow, for instance, to think that writing about religious themes shackles you to the moribund, slowly sinking religious establishment, discarding the realms that Cave has tapped into.
Certainty is a curse, damaging for activists, and fatal for artists. Cave gets it. There are wry lines, wrapped in enigmas in Wild God, “Who are these gods that you now defend? / And what purpose do they serve now at the end of time?” He replies not with apologetic laments or millenarian doom but with perfect inarguable euphoria. With the ecstatic doubt evident in the title track, whether the lead character is a soaring deity or just an old man in a retirement village propelling through his memory.
I still don’t believe in God, and I loathe the Church, and though I may be dumb, I am not dumb enough to deny I’m a Catholic writer. Whether the heavens are empty or not, I was permanently moulded by Jesuits. The hints were there, though it took me a while to recognise the compulsions. The countless pilgrimages. The need for rituals. The love for iconography and disdain for those who know only how to dismantle and not how to build. Listening to this cathartic album, it started to occur to me that maybe I’d got Longinus wrong. Maybe he shouldn’t have been a soldier after all. Maybe this cursed fallen figure should have been an artist. One who wanders, not smug and privileged in their certainty, not wielding belief or unbelief in order to judge or cudgel others, not resolving anything except for the small but significant consolation that some other poor wild bastard is out in the storm-beaten night with us all, bearing a lantern and somehow singing a song of joy.
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SubscribeWhilst i’ve no doubt that some readers (and perhaps Commenters) will be foaming with ecstasy at this type of article, i find it insufferably juvenile and overblown. It’s not the first Nick Cave eulogy by Unherd either (there’s an inter-paragraph link to the most recent one, a kind of self-eulogy) and that was more than enough; the guy just comes across as a complete pseud, using every possible trope he can lay his hands on to try to sound edgy and relevant.
Here, the writer at least makes plain how his own experiences have attracted him to Cave’s output. Instead of becoming a fan but then moving on, it’s as if his development has become arrested and therefore dependent upon Cave to ‘guide’ him, hence the use of fawning descriptions and detailed analysis of successive stages in Cave’s ‘work’. I hope, having divested himself of this article, he can start to live his own life, with his own thoughts, and find some degree of maturity away from the thrall of a figure whose significance appears to be as an attractor of vacant souls.
I’ve liked Nick Cave all the way back to The Birthday Party days. I agree that he is lionised by arty types and a lot of the criticism of his music and words is high falutin, but the man himself has always come across as authentic and likeable.
Yes, a rare authentic.
Nick Cave is one of the most self aware, compassionate and truly humble people I’ve ever encountered. His Red Hand Files responses are always a joy.
That seems a trifle unkind.
Almost all of us have used thinkers, artists and visionaries as props and conduits for our own life-of-the-mind at some stage in our pilgrimage here on earth.
I have yet to encounter anyone ostentatiously ‘living their own life’ and thinking ‘his own thoughts’ who wasn’t really a walking advertisement for a whole bag of more or less obvious latent intellectual influences.
“…pilgrimage here on earth.”
Where else do you think we’ll be “pilgrimaging”? My comment was an honest assessment, and i stated right at the outset i expected others to have a different view. I respect the comments of those others above, but your barbed reference to “a whole bag of more or less obvious intellectual influences” is pretty ironic given where your distinctly unintellectual influence is coming from.
You may take the pilgrimage metaphor as you choose. Even the Epicurean “Non fui, fui, non sum, non curo” still involves a preregrination to “that undiscovered country from whose bourn no traveler returns”
But I am sorry that you felt my last remark was aimed at you personally. I know almost nothing about you and so I couldn’t presume to pass judgement on you in that way. Please forgive my carelessness in causing offence.
I’m not sure I understand your own closing remark but I will be the first to say, quite cheerfully. that I am a bag of borrowed feathers, (un)intellectually speaking. My point is that we all are.
It’s your own interpretation of my response that leads you to think i took it personally. My response was based upon previous comments you’ve made around religious faith.
Of course, we all take our influences from somewhere initially; my point is that the obsequiousness in the article suggests to me an inability to move on from there in a more independent fashion, which should at least be an aim, if not always achieved.
I agree that it’s a gushing appreciation. It’s not an objective review and doesn’t purport to be. I think there’s a place for “celebratory criticism”, and I’m glad that it sometimes finds a home here—though we all reserve our right to object to an author’s tone or adored subject. There’s certainly plenty of subjective hit-piece and ulterior-motive criticism out there already.
I once read that even the line attributed to Sir Isaac Newton: “If have seen so far, it is only because I stood on the shoulders of giants” has many similar antecedents, from well before his time.
The near-simultaneous invention of calculus by Newton and Leibniz, and of evolutionary theory by Darwin and Wallace (with no evidence of any exchanged or “stolen” knowledge of the other man’s work) points to a kind of creative zeitgeist. Someone would probably have concocted the printing press or steam engine without Gutenberg or Watt, at around the same time. That’s my speculation, informed by the research and reasoning of others.
Even works of great originality and power, like Paradise Lost or Brave New World or Bach’s Keyboard Suites, do not emerge from a single, unaided hand. That’s all the more true when we acknowledge a mysterious author or Divine Hand. I believe there’s real truth in this lyric by the Liverpudlian Lads (wonder if Harrison or Lennon “invented” it): “There’s nothin’ you can see that isn’t shown / Nothin’ you can know that isn’t known“.
That last aphorism is a fairly neat summary of Platonic Epistemology or Anamnesis.
Or perhaps, as Harold Bloom might suggest, that is my own ‘creative misreading’?
And how does all that leave room, after all, for the individual genius?
At least this article has us talking and thinking!
Agreed. And even, or at times especially when I disagree, I appreciate your erudite contributions.
I got the feeling a teenager with a thesaurus had been let loose at Unherd offices.
I once went to a music pub in Prahran (Melbourne) where my much older friend went over the road, retrieved a box of over-ripe tomatoes turfed outside a greengrocer, and proceeded to pelt Mr Cave with them as he sang.
At points of particularly histrionic gyration, two or three would find their mark.
The bouncers didn’t stop him. The band seemed to think it funny.
I agree with you. I’ll buy the Wild God album despite the review.
As a general comment let me point out that Sinead O’Connor and other ‘celebrity rightoners’ are lionised by the media, especially by RTE, the national broadcaster, who appears to have a fetish about Catholic Church misdeeds but rarely look in the mirror.
Listen to Lazarus Dig Yourself, Lancashire Lad. It’s a lot of fun, and not as po-faced/ pompous as some of Cave’s other work.
Anyway I thought it was a nice article and Nick Cave is an interesting, sporadically great artist.
I’ll give it a go, in the spirit of finding something i’ve not found previously in Cave’s work
I hate to say it but I agree. My gut tells me that Cave is a charlatan. Extremely clever but ultimately fake. A master of the art of fooling music journalists. Just like Brian Eno.
Well I was just about to make a comment then I saw that made by LL. And it always amazes me how different we perceive things. I liked this review and I’ll probably go through it again. It also occurred to me how much i’d like to see so many of the political pieces written with a similar fresh perspective instead of the tired cross referencing and cobbling together of tired opinions. Nice work Darran.
Brett, if you’re not already a subscriber to Nick Cave’s Red Hand Files Q&A platform, I think you might enjoy reading his response to the question “What is joy? Where is it? Where is love in this world that is such an evil mess.”
https://www.theredhandfiles.com/what-is-joy-where-is-it/
I had a look at that. Thanks.
As C S Lewis has Aslan, paraphrasing Jesus of Nazareth, declare: All find what they truly seek.
Beware, then, what it is you seek.
Why were the Jesuits using a King James Bible?
The Douay-Rheims Bible, as revised by Richard Challoner in 1749, was the standard Roman Catholic translation of the Bible until the late 20th Century and is and still widely used by traditionalist Roman Catholics.
It draws heavily on the King James Bible for its translation, particularly in Challoners revised version.
especially for those of us to went to Douai!
The writer mentions Blake but perhaps the artistic and existential arc he sketches around the life and work of the artist may be closer to that of John Milton than Blake.
Milton, far more than Blake, lived to see his own early promise, his hopes for religious and intellectual freedom and the earnest expecations of his whole generation baffled and perplexed by the turn of events and the ‘inhuman dearth of noble natures’ – as a later ‘New Romantic’ would put it. The man who wrote Areopagitica and The Tenure of Kings and Magistrates (supporting a free press and a republic) lived to see his idealised revolution turn into Cromwell’s police-state.
Similarly, Milton has not been short of accusers who suggest he used the imagery of Jerusalem to mask the yearnings of Athens – or worse.
I doubt Mr Cave can have been unaware of this life mirroring if he chose Milton’s ‘Red Right Hand’, the vengeful hand of God, as his emblem and totem.
Milton, perhaps like Mr Cave and the writer of this piece, had no time for the pretensions of the ‘Church’, for priestcraft, for Holy Orders or for schemes of law and piety. But he always considered himself a Christian and his life’s work was to know God rightly.
“The end then of learning is to repair the ruins of our first parents by regaining to know God aright, and out of that knowledge to love him, to imitate him, to be like him, as we may the nearest by possessing our souls of true virtue, which being united to the heavenly grace of faith makes up the highest perfection.”
John Milton, On Education.
A.N. Wilson’s short biography of Milton would be of interest to this writer and anyone else persuaded or intrigued by what he has written.
Nevertheless he was drawn to Cromwell the false prophet-ruler, as you note. When Milton’s friend Andrew Marvell asked in verse: “Where couldst thou words of such compass find / Whence furnish such a vast expanse of mind?”, the answer speaks for itself. But it is still a Source beyond our understanding. And it is not expressed in one faith tradition alone, not to my eyes and ears. Along with many readers, I detect in the Dhammapada and Bhagavad Gita the same mysterious guiding hand that is present in the Teachings of Jesus, and works like Faust and Paradise Lost. That is not an assertion of equivalence or interchangeability, but of the same ineffable Source.
You and I had an earlier exchange concerning the paradox of Milton, at once arch-traditionalist and revolting-radical. We might also do well to separate the life of Milton—perhaps a rather bad husband and father, on the humorless side, but with redeeming virtues—from his work. Nor should we assume that less “churchy” vision-seekers like Blake and Cave do not also seek to know God rightly.
Wonderful piece, and dare one say iy: Beautiful prose and elegant thoughts.
Who is this Nick Cave? Never heard of him…
Well now you have and you can find out more about him. One of the benefits of being an Unherd subscriber.
A popular chanteur, m’lud
A gothic stick of limp asparagus from the colonies, m’lud.
Well, you could, at the very least, name the colony.
He was born in rural Victoria, ma’am, and began his career in Orstraylia.
Have a decko at https://www.theredhandfiles.com/
As a recovered atheist, I am slightly disappointed with my self for investing several minutes reading this long, meandering, pompous ode to pseudo-intellectualism.
On a seperate note, I pray that Nick Cave is blessed by God, and that his boys are one with him.
And then spending more time making pointless comments. How disappointed you must be in yourself.
My comment had a point. I am pleased with it, and also with this one (which also has a point).
A Catholic atheist-agnostic? I’m drawn to the stubborn, hard-boiled, highly unorthodox faith of artists like Dostoevsky and Cave. And this rave review makes me keener to receive my CD of Wild God, which was released today and should be on its way to me from Bezos Inc.
Cave is absolutely A Good Thing. But I hope everyone here will excuse me for remembering the true presiding spirit, in my off-topic opinion, of the Birthday Party: Rowland S Howard, that most unsungest of guitar anti-heroes. Spectral, eldritch, downright weird, and with chops straight out of a crossroads jam with the devil himself.
I hope old Nick would agree.
Speaking of Overton’s window – “Atheist who loathes the church…”
I found I better understood literature and specifically Nick’s journey from violence-obsessed youth to thoughtful lyricist, preacher, and grief counselor all by better understanding the Bible.
I too was Jesuit educated and only after graduating and experiencing the real world did I appreciate their POV, sacrifices, and drawing me out from the cave of darkness.
I highly recommend listening to the thoughtful and inspiring biblical series by Jordan Peterson – https://open.spotify.com/episode/0iXuxsSURdRkyzKOoyf2dg?si=bc38317ceb894a47
Jordan goes deep into the Old Testament and tries to understand the implications and meanings – which are 100% relevant today as they were thousands of years ago. Plus the quality of writing and ideas is unparalleled.
It is a perfect pairing with Nick and a step in the right direction of kicking against the pricks.
Speaking of Overton’s window – “Atheist who loathes the church…”
I found I better understood literature and specifically Nick’s journey from violence-obsessed youth to thoughtful lyricist, preacher, and grief counselor to all by better understanding the Bible.
I too was Jesuit educated and only after graduating and experiencing the real world did I appreciate their POV, sacrifices, and drawing me out from the cave of darkness.
I highly recommend listening to the thoughtful and inspiring biblical series by Jordan Peterson – https://open.spotify.com/episode/0iXuxsSURdRkyzKOoyf2dg?si=bc38317ceb894a47
It is a perfect pairing with Nick and a step in the right direction of kicking against the pricks.
This piece tells us more about its author than its subject.
Imagine being trapped at a table with him for dinner or drinks.
I’d put Push The Sky Away amongst NC’s top 5 records. But in honesty I lost interest during The Boatman’s Call and its successors because the Bargeld element had been lost (so triumphant in Let Love In, for instance).
Mick Harvey eventually abandoned the project too which is where I think he refound some musical inspiration in the electronic furnishings of the Sky record. Then the tragedy in his life, multiple times, and I didn’t really feel like commenting on the rest mostly from no longer being a committed listener.