A century and a half after the death of John Stuart Mill, it is easy to think that we have had enough of him. Although William Gladstone once posthumously canonised him as “the saint of rationality”, many contemporary thinkers believe he’s beyond his sell-by date. Monty Python offers an assessment for our age: “John Stuart Mill/ of his own free will/ on half a pint of shandy was particularly ill.”
In the eyes of sceptics, Mill has lost his relevance. The campaigns in which he fought have been won, and the ideas he defended — namely, free speech and female suffrage — have become widely embraced, elaborated, refined and transcended. Furthermore, aspects of his writings grate on current sensitivities. To many, his career in the East India Company reveals not only a thoughtless acceptance of colonialism but also a complacent conviction of the superiority of British society. His proposals to grant extra votes to the well-educated demonstrate a casual elitism, as does his emphasis on higher pleasures: on poetry rather than pushpin. What’s more, the negative picture of liberty he defended — focused on insulating people’s lives from outside interference — can be used today by libertarians and other boosters of minimally regulated markets; perhaps Mill was even a closet libertarian himself. Clear-headed charity should allow him to fade gracefully into the (Victorian) wallpaper.
All this, I believe, is profoundly incorrect. Mill was a far deeper thinker than many of his readers today recognise. He was a progressive, not a neoliberal, someone who has much to teach us about our own society and its conflicts.
These common misconceptions of Mill will no doubt be articulated in a future canonical text entitled Mill for Dummies. When this book is written, it will tell us what “everybody knows” about him. First, he was a utilitarian. To act rightly, he claimed, is to maximise happiness. Following Jeremy Bentham in this thesis, he added a new twist: some pleasures are “higher” than others. Reading poetry supplies more units of bliss (hedons) than you derive from playing childish games in your local tavern. Second, he was an ardent defender of individual liberty. The most important freedom, he tells us, consists in your choosing and pursuing your own good in your own way. Intervening in other people’s lives is warranted only to prevent their harming other folk. These two ideas are the major themes of his most important works: Utilitarianism and On Liberty.
Unfortunately, Dummies probably won’t address the obvious question: How do these two ideas fit together? To find an answer you’d have to go back to On Liberty, where Mill tells us that his defence of freedom will not involve any concept of rights that are independent of utility. He continues by explaining what he means: “I regard utility as the ultimate appeal on all ethical questions; but it must be utility in the largest sense, grounded on the permanent interests of man as a progressive being.” The authors of Dummies, who identify utility in terms of happiness with an elitist additive, will see this as obfuscation rather than clarification — a lapse into flowery Victorian rhetoric.
Yet the thought of human progress, together with a commitment to promoting it, is all over Mill’s writings. It is expressed in the closing pages of A System of Logic, in The Subjection of Women, throughout On Liberty, and in the Principles of Political Economy (a work roughly four times as long as Utilitarianism and On Liberty combined, and which went through eight editions in his lifetime). In fact, whenever Mill takes up any issue of social policy, he always asks first about how to make progressive changes in individual lives and in the conditions of society that foster or impede such advances. If he mentions happiness at all, it is an afterthought.
The “only freedom which deserves the name” — the ability to choose and pursue your own good in your own way — is at the core of his concept of progress. People’s lives are better when they have more opportunities for figuring out what kind of life they want to lead, more developed cognitive and emotional capacities for making choices about their aims and aspirations, more support in trying to attain their selected goals. When societies restrict options — when, for example, they deny women any chance to obtain university degrees or to own property or to engage in public activities allowed to men — they are interfering with human progress. Advances come when these kinds of restrictions are abolished. It is hardly surprising that Mill would oppose de jure restrictions on the kinds of activities women can pursue; he is, after all, the apostle of non-interference.
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SubscribeI do not claim, in any way shape or form, to be a scholar of Mill’s work – or to have read enough of his output to be able to categorise his political stance, and thus be able to use his authority to buttress my own arguments – but there is a quotation from On Liberty I read many years ago at school that I have tried to adhere to and have often cited (in precis) when challenging others in debate,
“He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them. But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion… Nor is it enough that he should hear the opinions of adversaries from his own teachers, presented as they state them, and accompanied by what they offer as refutations. He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them…he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.”
It was precisely this piece of advice that led me to continue reading leftish writers – and the Guardian almost daily – long after the point that I realised I disagreed with almost every position they took.
How can you ever feel confident in your own opinions unless you have understood, or at least exposed yourself to, the counter-argument – and from well-versed people who can make a strong defence for it?
Yet this obvious good sense, in the digital age, is anathema to most – certainly to many who would claim JS Mill for their own side of the aisle. With the plethora of information resources available to us it is all too easy to gravitate towards news that sits comfortably within your own preferred world-view.
It used to be said that you were entitled to your own opinions, yet we now live in a culture where many seem to feel entitled to their own facts.
Too many people feel they have a right to simply dismiss any information that challenges the consoling half-truths that bolster their preconceptions – because they’re convinced their point of view is intrinsically virtuous, thus everyone who thinks differently to them must be wrong. And, distressingly often, not merely wrong but somehow “Evil”. It seems to blind them to the possibility that other, perfectly decent and thoughtful people might, quite justifiably, think differently to them. I think this is the fundamental cause of the pessimism that permeates so much political discourse.
Even within our universities, the very places that should be most dedicated to the free exchange of opposing ideas, we have allowed a culture of no-platforming any who challenge the cultural shibboleths of our time. Not only do we find academics and journalists unwilling to listen to the case for the other side, we find plenty of people who actually claim that such a monocular view is a virtue, and damn any who dare think otherwise.
The BBC, which has a charter obligation to reflect the breadth of any argument and find articulate proponents to make the case for their own positions, was attacked by Emily Maitlis in her (what should be infamous) MacTaggart lecture, accusing her employer of committing the sin of “Both-sideism”.
As I say, I make no claim as an expert on JS Mill, but in my humble opinion, nothing would improve the tenor of political debate and critical thinking in our present time more than if those who do lay claim to his work took this particular piece of his advice to heart.
That’s a very astute observation. I used to read pieces I fundamentally disagreed with, but never thought of it as me trying to understand the other side. I always thought they were written to inflame and outrage readers in order to keep them engaged rather than informed, which is why I read a lot less of publications like the Guardian than I used to.
Articles on the Guardian are website are so ridiculous that I can’t believe it still has serious readership, yet occasionally I venture forth to their comments section only very quickly to retreat back to mental refuges like Unherd or Quintette.
I think I tried to understand the other side but eventually gave up, believing they were too far gone down the progressive rabbit hole.
I think this expectation is rather discriminatory toward Progressive Totalitarian and Postmodern Ideologies based in Standpoint Epistemology.
A progressive operates beyond reason because progressives possess Gnose or absolute knowledge. Absolute Knowledge can’t be accessed by the uninducted, non-expert class or those defined as privileged.
There is simply no reason for the progressive to consider a more conservative viewpoint when he already knows the truth.
Dissenting opinion is just an outdated form of bourgeois property that needs to be shelved in the interest of the global community!
Compared to Thomas Paine he was rubbish.
Action NOT words is the true judge, always has been always will be.
One has to know what actions are best
I would say that to be the main inspirational source for the foundation of the USA was a pretty good start.
I would say that to be the main inspirational source for the foundation of the USA was a pretty good start.
Charles,
I take your point that words are cheap and it is by one’s actions that one should be judged.
But how do you suppose you can decide what course of action would be justifiable and right, unless you have discussed and considered the problem at hand from all sides? Your gut-instinct is often not the wisest approach.
Off course, Paine was very fortunate with his timing, whilst Mill was not so lucky.
Off course, Paine was very fortunate with his timing, whilst Mill was not so lucky.
One has to know what actions are best
Charles,
I take your point that words are cheap and it is by one’s actions that one should be judged.
But how do you suppose you can decide what course of action would be justifiable and right, unless you have discussed and considered the problem at hand from all sides? Your gut-instinct is often not the wisest approach.
When you look into the void, the void looks into you.
And yes, when you inculcate the teachings of the void, you understand yourself better.
Even if that self would seem a monster to your earlier self.
That’s a very astute observation. I used to read pieces I fundamentally disagreed with, but never thought of it as me trying to understand the other side. I always thought they were written to inflame and outrage readers in order to keep them engaged rather than informed, which is why I read a lot less of publications like the Guardian than I used to.
Articles on the Guardian are website are so ridiculous that I can’t believe it still has serious readership, yet occasionally I venture forth to their comments section only very quickly to retreat back to mental refuges like Unherd or Quintette.
I think I tried to understand the other side but eventually gave up, believing they were too far gone down the progressive rabbit hole.
I think this expectation is rather discriminatory toward Progressive Totalitarian and Postmodern Ideologies based in Standpoint Epistemology.
A progressive operates beyond reason because progressives possess Gnose or absolute knowledge. Absolute Knowledge can’t be accessed by the uninducted, non-expert class or those defined as privileged.
There is simply no reason for the progressive to consider a more conservative viewpoint when he already knows the truth.
Dissenting opinion is just an outdated form of bourgeois property that needs to be shelved in the interest of the global community!
Compared to Thomas Paine he was rubbish.
Action NOT words is the true judge, always has been always will be.
When you look into the void, the void looks into you.
And yes, when you inculcate the teachings of the void, you understand yourself better.
Even if that self would seem a monster to your earlier self.
I do not claim, in any way shape or form, to be a scholar of Mill’s work – or to have read enough of his output to be able to categorise his political stance, and thus be able to use his authority to buttress my own arguments – but there is a quotation from On Liberty I read many years ago at school that I have tried to adhere to and have often cited (in precis) when challenging others in debate,
“He who knows only his own side of the case knows little of that. His reasons may be good, and no one may have been able to refute them. But if he is equally unable to refute the reasons on the opposite side, if he does not know what they are, he has no ground for preferring either opinion… Nor is it enough that he should hear the opinions of adversaries from his own teachers, presented as they state them, and accompanied by what they offer as refutations. He must be able to hear them from persons who actually believe them…he must know them in their most plausible and persuasive form.”
It was precisely this piece of advice that led me to continue reading leftish writers – and the Guardian almost daily – long after the point that I realised I disagreed with almost every position they took.
How can you ever feel confident in your own opinions unless you have understood, or at least exposed yourself to, the counter-argument – and from well-versed people who can make a strong defence for it?
Yet this obvious good sense, in the digital age, is anathema to most – certainly to many who would claim JS Mill for their own side of the aisle. With the plethora of information resources available to us it is all too easy to gravitate towards news that sits comfortably within your own preferred world-view.
It used to be said that you were entitled to your own opinions, yet we now live in a culture where many seem to feel entitled to their own facts.
Too many people feel they have a right to simply dismiss any information that challenges the consoling half-truths that bolster their preconceptions – because they’re convinced their point of view is intrinsically virtuous, thus everyone who thinks differently to them must be wrong. And, distressingly often, not merely wrong but somehow “Evil”. It seems to blind them to the possibility that other, perfectly decent and thoughtful people might, quite justifiably, think differently to them. I think this is the fundamental cause of the pessimism that permeates so much political discourse.
Even within our universities, the very places that should be most dedicated to the free exchange of opposing ideas, we have allowed a culture of no-platforming any who challenge the cultural shibboleths of our time. Not only do we find academics and journalists unwilling to listen to the case for the other side, we find plenty of people who actually claim that such a monocular view is a virtue, and damn any who dare think otherwise.
The BBC, which has a charter obligation to reflect the breadth of any argument and find articulate proponents to make the case for their own positions, was attacked by Emily Maitlis in her (what should be infamous) MacTaggart lecture, accusing her employer of committing the sin of “Both-sideism”.
As I say, I make no claim as an expert on JS Mill, but in my humble opinion, nothing would improve the tenor of political debate and critical thinking in our present time more than if those who do lay claim to his work took this particular piece of his advice to heart.
Unfortunately the modern left simply doesn’t believe that ‘democracy requires taking the perspectives of all people seriously’. Quite the opposite in fact.
Unfortunately the modern left simply doesn’t believe that ‘democracy requires taking the perspectives of all people seriously’. Quite the opposite in fact.
Mill a ‘progressive’? Yes, I will certainly buy that. But that has most certainly not turned out to be a good thing in the long run, rather the intrusion of publically funded dubious ideological obsessions into more and more areas of private life. I’d agree women should have equal opportunities, but what if they choose child rearing and home making as their priority? Pay someone to look after your very young children while you go out to work?! Many other examples.
To true. To describe someone today as a progressive is not a complement.
The article seems to position Mill more as a One Nation Tory than a progressive. But who am I to interpret the intentions of the eminent professor.
The article seems to position Mill more as a One Nation Tory than a progressive. But who am I to interpret the intentions of the eminent professor.
Dude made his money as a part of the East India Company, maybe the most rapacious corporation in existence. Spare me the encomiums.
https://victorianweb.org/philosophy/mill/career.html
Think you would have been different in the 19th century? It’s very unikely.
Think you would have been different in the 19th century? It’s very unikely.
To true. To describe someone today as a progressive is not a complement.
Dude made his money as a part of the East India Company, maybe the most rapacious corporation in existence. Spare me the encomiums.
https://victorianweb.org/philosophy/mill/career.html
Mill a ‘progressive’? Yes, I will certainly buy that. But that has most certainly not turned out to be a good thing in the long run, rather the intrusion of publically funded dubious ideological obsessions into more and more areas of private life. I’d agree women should have equal opportunities, but what if they choose child rearing and home making as their priority? Pay someone to look after your very young children while you go out to work?! Many other examples.
A superb defense of one of the most brilliant Englishmen who ever lived. I recommend that anyone inclined to make one or another assumption about John Stuart Mill read 100 pages of his actual works.
I respect the fact that this website allows–and publishes–a variety a viewpoints on the same important subject.
A superb defense of one of the most brilliant Englishmen who ever lived. I recommend that anyone inclined to make one or another assumption about John Stuart Mill read 100 pages of his actual works.
I respect the fact that this website allows–and publishes–a variety a viewpoints on the same important subject.
The eminent professor worries about the availability of
But the question is:
Can gubmint ever deliver quality education?
Can gubmint deliver a “safety net” against poverty and homelessness?
Or does it always Make Things Worse?
Take the French, currently enraged about the gubmint mucking around with their retraites. Suppose the graduates of les grandes écoles had built a system where French workers financed their own retraites with a little gubmint regulation to keep fraud down to a dull roar? What then?
I’m a follower of Nazi jurist Carl Schmitt, who says that politics is just friend vs. enemy. You gift your friends; you fight your enemies. And that is all. Prove to me that I’m wrong, Noble Professor.
No one can disprove a dark, cynical worldview to the satisfaction of one who peers through such a lens.
“All seems infected that th’ infected spy, / As all looks yellow to the jaundic’d eye” (Alexander Pope).
Of course governments can provide quality education if they have the will. My 3 children all went to public school in British Columbia. All 3 are now professionals doing quite well. They loved their high school.
Similarly, if it has the will government can provide a safety net against poverty and homelessness. Unfortunately many voters want to be taxed a lot less, which diminishes the ability of governments to do that.
None of the above is perfect, but perfectability isn’t and shouldn’t be the goal.
No one can disprove a dark, cynical worldview to the satisfaction of one who peers through such a lens.
“All seems infected that th’ infected spy, / As all looks yellow to the jaundic’d eye” (Alexander Pope).
Of course governments can provide quality education if they have the will. My 3 children all went to public school in British Columbia. All 3 are now professionals doing quite well. They loved their high school.
Similarly, if it has the will government can provide a safety net against poverty and homelessness. Unfortunately many voters want to be taxed a lot less, which diminishes the ability of governments to do that.
None of the above is perfect, but perfectability isn’t and shouldn’t be the goal.
The eminent professor worries about the availability of
But the question is:
Can gubmint ever deliver quality education?
Can gubmint deliver a “safety net” against poverty and homelessness?
Or does it always Make Things Worse?
Take the French, currently enraged about the gubmint mucking around with their retraites. Suppose the graduates of les grandes écoles had built a system where French workers financed their own retraites with a little gubmint regulation to keep fraud down to a dull roar? What then?
I’m a follower of Nazi jurist Carl Schmitt, who says that politics is just friend vs. enemy. You gift your friends; you fight your enemies. And that is all. Prove to me that I’m wrong, Noble Professor.
An interesting piece and in a similar vein to the one written by Patrick Deneen and published in this portal last week. If I did not know better, I could imagine another attempt to undermine proper, European, liberalism.
The author, rightly records that Mill was a progressive but then tries to construe that the progressivism of 150 years ago is aligned with what, rather unhelpfully, is described as the progressivism of today’s hard left. The progressivism of Mill is not the progressivism that AOC and Sauders hope to progress, nor should they be described as liberal. Their progressivism is authoritarian and flavoured by the intolerance of Marcuse and others of that fraternity. In effect regressive and this is well-illustrated by Orwel and Huxley.
The progress that Western Society has experienced over the last centuries has been founded upon progressive policies that have understood the importance of the individual and his need for autonomy. To allude to the polar opposites of Capitalism and Socialism though his passage “The progressive interests of humanity are not fostered by intensifying competition. In the section of Mill’s Principles entitled “Of the Stationary State of Wealth and Population”, fails to distinguish the consequences of socialist imposed redistribution of earned wealth and the desirable redistribution that meritocracy brings through opportunity in a free market society.
Agree entirely. JS Mill worked to progress to humanity.
The loony left wants to proceed to ant hood. With of course three or four different classes of ant.
Agree entirely. JS Mill worked to progress to humanity.
The loony left wants to proceed to ant hood. With of course three or four different classes of ant.
An interesting piece and in a similar vein to the one written by Patrick Deneen and published in this portal last week. If I did not know better, I could imagine another attempt to undermine proper, European, liberalism.
The author, rightly records that Mill was a progressive but then tries to construe that the progressivism of 150 years ago is aligned with what, rather unhelpfully, is described as the progressivism of today’s hard left. The progressivism of Mill is not the progressivism that AOC and Sauders hope to progress, nor should they be described as liberal. Their progressivism is authoritarian and flavoured by the intolerance of Marcuse and others of that fraternity. In effect regressive and this is well-illustrated by Orwel and Huxley.
The progress that Western Society has experienced over the last centuries has been founded upon progressive policies that have understood the importance of the individual and his need for autonomy. To allude to the polar opposites of Capitalism and Socialism though his passage “The progressive interests of humanity are not fostered by intensifying competition. In the section of Mill’s Principles entitled “Of the Stationary State of Wealth and Population”, fails to distinguish the consequences of socialist imposed redistribution of earned wealth and the desirable redistribution that meritocracy brings through opportunity in a free market society.
Really good. Thank you
Really good. Thank you