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The Tories were destined for civil war In a political crisis, everyone is a potential enemy

Her failure was years in the making (DANIEL LEAL/AFP via Getty Images)

Her failure was years in the making (DANIEL LEAL/AFP via Getty Images)


October 21, 2022   6 mins

Even in the most tense, fractious relationship there can be enormous capacity for calm: for letting things go, for tolerating each infraction for the greater good, for simply getting on with things. Eventually, though, the dam breaks into a cathartic spasm of anger and it all unravels. Buried resentments unearth themselves and heighten every complaint. Suddenly, everything is a battle, from the thing they did that one time to why they must stir their tea so BLOODY LOUDLY.

Outside Downing Street yesterday, it took Liz Truss just a few minutes to call time on her condensed premiership. But the Conservative Party’s spasm of anger had already erupted. On Wednesday, decades of brewing feuds, petty grievances and polite disagreements exploded into a contraction of chaos. In a few short hours, the Government saw the Home Secretary depart office, scuffles erupt in the lobby, and confusion reign over whether the Chief Whip had resigned or not. Tory MPs began to openly lament the state of the party. Within 24 hours the Prime Minister would fall, the shortest tenure in British history.

It was a dramatic spectacle for the Lobby to feed on and a day and a half of despair for Liz Truss. It was not, however, an unheralded implosion, but rather the culmination of shifting party dynamics over the last few decades. Cameron’s attempt at detoxification, the gamble of the referendum, and the squabbles over Brexit each played a role in pushing to this moment — as did a thousand snubs, slights and overpromotions. This mess took only a few hours to unfold, but it was years in the making.

The Conservative Party has always been an uneasy alliance of unlikely figures. Driven more by the desire to govern than ideology, the party attracts confused and conflicting views and rebrands the resulting contradictions as a “broad church”. Passing electoral trends add new layers onto this, embedding fault lines. The party rubs along reasonably well by focusing on its one shared goal: winning elections. When the possibility of this diminishes, as with a precipitous dip in the polls, the fault lines start to crack. In a land of first-past-the-post, the Right’s broad coalition works. Until it doesn’t.

The current party is perhaps more riven by these divisions than ever in its history. They have been compounded by recent political divisions and the polarisation which occurred within the House and the public at large. With a weak prime minister and the prospect of electoral oblivion, the scene was set for a quake.

It is tempting to see the split in the Tory party as binary — a matter of Wet vs Dry, of economic liberalism versus a more mid-century paternalism. Yet very few in the party neatly fit this spectrum. In fact, the various Westminster tribes are often a bizarre and competing mix of each. The Thatcherites would usually happily throw state money at their pet projects and would rarely abandon their staunchest supporters to the whims of the market. There’s no real movement in the party to expose farmers to cheaper imports from abroad, for example, and there are many who would free every market but the movement of people.

In the same vein, the Left of the party did little to reject austerity and now pushes for its return, at least where it didn’t impinge on their voters. Benefits and schools seem easier for them to cut than pensions and bin collections. For most, the real north star is whatever motivates the voters and principles often come second to vibe.

Part of the reason for the party’s multi-decade battles over Europe is that it was the only issue that forced them into a binary choice. There was no real nuance when it came to Remain or Leave: it was a simple question with a single answer. This challenged the ability to be all things to all men and forced them to nail their colours to the mast. It also served to cut every faction in two.

Brexit applied a new lens to every internal debate. Leave MPs who pushed for protectionism and an anti-immigration stance suddenly became Dries, while the One Nation tag seemed to stick to Cameroons who had no issues with austerity but largely voted Remain. Moreover, this dividing line became baked into the party machine. While some MPs, most notably Truss, wore their affiliation lightly and skipped from one side to the other, the rest decided to dig in. It no longer mattered if you were a Singapore-on-Thames libertarian or a faith-and-flag protectionist, you shared an enemy. Outside of parliament, too, the members generally saw their new identity and took to it as partisans.

The conduct of the parliamentary party and respective governments in the aftermath of the referendum made this worse. Theresa May’s ministry failed to either placate or nullify the hard-line Brexiteers, giving them enough space to undermine her attempts to reach a settlement with the EU. Repeated cabinet resignations, rebellions, and plots to oust her aggravated those who supported Remain, while her compromises with the EU angered the ERG and allies.

Seeing the difficulties May had fallen into, Johnson had a direct plan of confrontation with his internal opponents. In an early act of his premiership, he withdrew the whip from those who defied him on Brexit. These were Remainers, but there was also an implicit threat to those on the Right, which ultimately got his deal across the line. From then on, he rewarded loyalty with promotions and treason with political exile — there was no room for conciliation or meritocracy. This, naturally, angered his internal opponents, but he held one trump card, his popularity with the electorate. When that wobbled, there was no shortage of volunteers to act against him.

Whoever became leader after him was due to inherit a soured atmosphere. That Truss edged through with only a third of MPs supporting her did not bode well. In appointing a Cabinet of loyalists, she exacerbated this anger and put a huge wager on things going well. It didn’t. When her mini-budget imploded, and took Tory poll ratings to new lows, her authority sank. The one thing that brought Tories together and kept them civil, winning elections, was gone.

This set the scene for a rapid unravelling. When your polling goes that low, there is a swathe of people who know they have nothing to lose. Their seat will be gone whether they have the whip or not. Equally, all sides think that tacking their way is the solution, and ambitious seniors see it as their chance to audition for the top seat. The clouds gather, and every issue becomes a lightning rod.

When the party is at peace, the nebulous nature of factions makes it easier to manage. People can be nudged into line because they aren’t that wedded to one ideological strain. When it is in free-fall, it makes everyone a potential enemy. That’s why the government picking an argument over fracking was such a terrible idea. The enviro-wets might be already against you, but so too are the MPs who don’t want hydraulic drilling under their constituency. There aren’t enough diehard growthers who will put ugly scenes in their backyard into second place, and seeing you are weak gives other malcontents an opportunity.

In these times you need iron parliamentary discipline, and with a weak leader that is almost impossible to maintain. You end up daring people to defy you, and, on finding they do, you end up in the confusion of whipping and unwhipping a vote. This is embarrassing and intolerable for the people you ask to do it, so you end up losing them too.

At a Cabinet level too, things become impossible to manage. With the arrival of Hunt, the people who were excluded under Boris found their way back to the table. This brought on both a personal and political fight against those they see as the under-talented beneficiaries of largesse. Suella Braverman was the standard bearer — unashamedly populist on immigration (an issue that socially liberal Tories feel relaxed on, economic liberals are enthusiastically in favour of, but others are firmly against), and widely regarded by the “sensibles” as swivel-eyed. An errant email gave the chance to boot her out, but it was fractious politics that motivated taking it.

Truss had become despised by almost everyone, for betraying her Cameroon origins to embrace a hard Brexit, and then acquiescing to a quiet coup from the other side. She tried and she failed with her own mandate, and then became unable to maintain authority after she abandoned it. In doing so she reaped the outcome of the divisions and slights that had bubbled under the surface for decades. A deft politician with a gift for deal-making and communication might have steered through these waters. Liz Truss was not that person. She flipped and flopped on her main policies, but failed to offer the one thing every Tory craves most: the prospect of continuing in government.

Now, there is no clear pretender, because the other factions are so riven and built on shaky ground. It is hard to see someone who can unite the parliamentary party, let alone the membership. In a week we will see who emerges, then question whether they can make the most of it or not. Each of the major names is tainted by some association or another, each unwelcome in certain corners of the party and with their own personal challenges. There will be seven days of deal-making, but they will inherit the burden of a party happy to fight itself.

The only question now is whether the ugly infighting continues in public. Some relationships blow up once and come to a swift and dignified end, others paper over the cracks and rumble on a while longer. But the worst become toxic in their daily antagonisms. The Tories may try to pull themselves together, to have a quiet Christmas for the sake of the nation, but with authority and cohesion broken, it is unclear how this will happen, even now Truss has gone.


John Oxley is a corporate strategist and political commentator. His Substack is Joxley Writes.

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Aaron James
Aaron James
2 years ago

If you just went to some construction site and picked one of the workers who was holding a tool you would get a better man than any in Parliament, and one better to run the country. He would likely be a Patriot, used to working hard, using his pay to run his and any dependent’s economic life, pay the bills, thinking ahead about his old age, and his children’s future, and try to always do the right thing.

He would be different in every way to any with any power in the House.

Stu B
Stu B
2 years ago
Reply to  Aaron James

I’ve run that idea frequently. Someone with good principals who doesn’t give a toss if the Twitters approve.

The Conservatives have failed utterly to remember the name of their own party and Labour are even more dangerous since mainstream left wing thought openly rejects the concept of reality itself.

We are well and truly over the barrel on a leaky ship with no sail and no captain.

Politicians have two jobs: Make everything work and leave us the f*ck alone. That’s it. Do that.

Michael McElwee
Michael McElwee
2 years ago
Reply to  Stu B

Yes, prevent crime and enforce contracts. Not that hard, right?

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago

But they have to get involved in lockdown and a questionable vaccine and global warming deception not to mention actual globalism. Now we are run by a global LGBT type of people.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
2 years ago
Reply to  Stu B

The problem is that no-one ever says: ‘Who cares what Twitter says? Who cares what cocaine-snorting wordsmiths think? I care what hard-working ordinary voters think and I won’t resign because self-righteous tosspots like you and Twitter think that you run the country instead of me running it’.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

She caved in when she shouldn’t have. I suppose if she didn’t have that type of strength then she was not cut out for the job. Nothing wrong with her politics at all. Shame she didn’t endure and overcome. Her policies were the right ones. Now we are stuck with practically the highest business tax in the world and expect people to invest here.

Bill Tomlinson
Bill Tomlinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Conrad

For me, the disaster called Truss began with that ridiculous mini budget of Karteng’s.

Imagine, at a time of raging inflation, that you could cut taxes without corresponding cuts to government spending!

Then they failed to get the OBR [Office of Budget Responsibility] to check their plans. If they had, the OBR would surely have spotted the anomaly, which could have been corrected, and that would have left Truss still in office.

Firing Kwarteng was the final straw. Suggesting that the mini budget was all Karteng’s idea, and nothing to do with Truss, was simply an insult to our intelligence.

Bill Bailey
Bill Bailey
2 years ago
Reply to  Bill Tomlinson

Yet the Austrian School of Economists blame the BoE
https://mises.org/wire/bank-england-made-liz-truss-scapegoat

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Bill Tomlinson

I believe she was doing the right thing. It’s been done many times before and worked. Reducing corporate tax encourages investment from abroad and also helps the companies to invest in growth. I think the problem is two tory parties one of which tries to close down those who don’t agree with them making the party ungovernable by a PM. A kind of cancel culture operating if you like. Her downfall was through caving into them and the mass media not because her policies were wrong. In that sense she was in the wrong job but not wrong policies in my view.

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Bill Tomlinson
Bill Tomlinson
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Conrad

I totally agree that reducing taxes boosts the economy, but there have to be matching spending cuts.

If Truss/Kwarteng had bothered to run their plans past the OBR, that “little” failing would have been spotted – and Liz would likely still be in Number Ten.

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart
2 years ago
Reply to  Aaron James

I used to work on construction sites with these people – and the salt of the earth cliche does apply. But none of them would want the job of an MP, let alone leader – and therein lies the problem – it takes a certain character to take up such roles, and these days the public seldom likes this character set. That’s why Boris (and Blair) were so exceptional – election winners. And we don’t tolerate winners for too long.

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Warren Trees
Warren Trees
2 years ago
Reply to  Ian Stewart

It sure does take a certain character. One who doesn’t mind navigating the shifting sands or sailing without a rudder. One who is both spineless and hard core, with an overwhelming love of power and money. One who can argue vehemently both sides of an argument, regardless of where he stands. One who espouses no principles so as not to be pinned down. That is why the simple bloke isn’t interested.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
2 years ago
Reply to  Warren Trees

There is a third point of view: ‘I won’t answer your questions Mr Dimbleby if you don’t pin your own sail to the mast!’ Amazing how journalists never, ever have to put their own views down but can call for the heads of those who do.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

She may have subtley been beebeeceed out of power.

Bill Bailey
Bill Bailey
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Conrad

I didn’t think it was that subtle.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Bill Bailey

No. I think you are right.

Alasdair Arthur
Alasdair Arthur
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Conrad

Or was she just simply extraordinarily bad at her job. Easy to cling to blaming others – my horse was nobbled – when you’ve backed an animal who was lame in the first place.

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart
2 years ago
Reply to  Warren Trees

Wow great definition of a politician! People have often asked why I didn’t enter party politics because of my passionate interest and advocacy, and this is why.

Last edited 2 years ago by Ian Stewart
Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Ian Stewart

Yeah one needs a certain kind of character as well. Not being afraid of rejection is helpful.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
2 years ago
Reply to  Ian Stewart

There’s a very big difference between ‘doing the right thing for the locale’ and ‘doing the right thing for the country’, something which only ever really emerges when you do something like try to build a new high speed railway.
Then you find the NIMBYism so rife in so many voters coming out. They don’t care where it goes as long as it doesn’t go through their back yard.
No-one, construction worker, nor most MPs, will ever engage in such tough discussions because no MP can afford to alienate their voters. What’s good for the country suddenly becomes totally expendable….

Graham Thorpe
Graham Thorpe
2 years ago
Reply to  Aaron James

Didn’t the ancient Greeks have a system at one time that actually worked along these lines – with random people being selected to serve some limited term as the temporary rulers of their country? My memory of being taught such things is now hazy but it may be that, as in many things, the ancient world might still have a lesson or two for us.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
2 years ago
Reply to  Graham Thorpe

They weren’t exactly random, Graham. They came from the elite, not a construction site.

Bill Bailey
Bill Bailey
2 years ago

Stupid people don’t survive on modern construction sites – and that could be taken both metaphorically and literally.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Aaron James

Could be so but he could also be a jihadist, an IRA man or a devout remainer, but I know what you mean.

Ragnar Lothbrok
Ragnar Lothbrok
2 years ago
Reply to  Aaron James

Yes, he would probably be Latvian, speak very little English and wouldn’t have a clue what you were on about.

Dave Smith
Dave Smith
2 years ago
Reply to  Aaron James

William Cobbett said much the same thing 200 years ago. It has always been true. Our political class is not to be trusted and never has been. Once in a while we get a brief period where it looks as if this class cares about good government. I think Labour in 1945 were OK for a while until the usual happened and people got ambitious.
Since then nothing. The problem now is that this class extends into the media, the universities and the corporate world. Best to ignore the lot. Do not even vote since it encourages them .

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
2 years ago
Reply to  Aaron James

Not on most of the sites I’ve worked on. Unless you wanted some hungover 20 year old lad doing lines in the portaloo making important economic decisions.
Actually it’s probably not that far removed from Westminster now I think about it

Alex Tickell
Alex Tickell
2 years ago
Reply to  Aaron James

I’ve worked on construction sites all my life, still grafting at 78, self-employed, no perks, taxed to the hilt etc: but people like me and my friends believe we have a real purpose in life, to keep people warm and dry, to contribute to society, to make sure our families are provided for.
I fear that workers and the general population in recent times have forgotten the template which makes a fair and workable society……that one must put in before taking out. We have become a population of sick men and women deluded by the media and their left wing accomplices into thinking that we have a right to a crazy standard of living simply by being born. No guts, I know many here in Scotland half my age who live “on the sick” with much higher living standards than me and my older friends. So don’t look for a political answer to the problems we see around us, look into the minds of your neighbours even your children, realise what we have allowed to happen in this once great nation…..and weep.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
2 years ago
Reply to  Alex Tickell

It’s easy to have that attitude when your hard work was rewarded. By turning up to work each day you could buy a home, raise a family and slowly accumulate wealth for a more comfortable life. For many youngsters they have to turn up to work each day simply to hand over a large percentage of their wages to an unscrupulous landlord charging them the earth to live in a cold damp slum, with home ownership, family life and financial security becoming a distant pipe dream.
Would you have had the same attitude towards hard work if you were never going to benefit from it do you think?

Alex Tickell
Alex Tickell
2 years ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

I appreciate your response BB, but I had to work for nothing to gain an apprenticeship. Five years of hard work among hard men who came to treat me as a son due to my work ethic. We were proud of our toughness and did some powerful things with simple hand tools and up to the knees in mud. Owning a home was never an option no working man owned his home and I never even considered the possibility. I never left home till the day I married…..family made up for all the impositions. Today family is demonised, children taken over and indoctrinated by the state to be the ineffectual creatures we see around us, born to be victims.

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Billy Bob
Billy Bob
2 years ago
Reply to  Alex Tickell

So you were able to walk out of school straight into employment? Once the firm were satisfied with your work ethic they paid to put you through your apprenticeship and gave you a start in life, which meant you could buy a home and have a family?
Most youngsters can only dream of opportunities such as that unfortunately now. Studies show that on average they work longer hours and save a higher proportion of their wages than their forebears, yet they are falling ever further behind and homeownership rates for their generation are through the floor.
They’re also heavily taxed to pay the pensions and healthcare costs of the older generation as they failed to put anything aside for their end of life care. This is a generation that routinely votes against any new houses being built to give the youngsters somewhere to live.
I’ll finish by mentioning that I’m middle aged and reasonably comfortable financially, so don’t think this is simply a case of sour grapes

Alex Tickell
Alex Tickell
2 years ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

If it wasn’t for Maggie I would never have had a home, with four kids and a 14% mortgage it was tough but we made it due to the discount…still live in it today.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
2 years ago
Reply to  Alex Tickell

I’m not criticising you for taking advantage of the opportunity, merely pointing out that buying a family home and raising for kids in a single wage is a pipe dream for youngsters these days.
Also 14% on your mortgage then would require less of your weekly wage to service than the 5-6% mortgage today due to the explosion of house prices.

Alex Tickell
Alex Tickell
2 years ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

I know most of the owners of larger building companies in Argyll and most have stopped taking on apprentices due to a lack of work ethic, mobile phones and fashionable wearing apparel are usually the order of the day allied to a lack of respect for authority in the workplace.
Family is no longer a factor, many of the young people I meet have no wish to have children as it would adversely affect their future lifestyle….and dont say it’s all about economics, the wife and I got married with £20 between us.
Socially this country is rudderless and heading for the rocks. In Scotland social engineering abounds, Gender Recognition Act going on the statute to be followed by bill to lower age of consent to “adolescents” 13 to 19yrs, proposed by th greens of course. The future, which we have helped to create looks more and more nightmarish.

John Ramsden
John Ramsden
2 years ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

> Most youngsters can only dream of opportunities such as that unfortunately now.
And yet the baffling thing is that most youngsters are relaxed about and defend mass immigration, the very policy which is making their lives harder and their prospects of a place of their own to raise a family recede like a mirage. It makes absolutely no sense.

Alex Tickell
Alex Tickell
2 years ago
Reply to  John Ramsden

Well said,

chris Barton
chris Barton
2 years ago

Love seeing the Tories tear each other apart as it makes a split more likely half of them at least should just go directly to the Lib Dems or Labour. I’m hoping for a genuine realignment, that cannot happen in our current system till the Tory party is gone. In my ideal world the SDP would step into the gap – they are leftish on economics (without being overkill) but right leaning on social/cultural issues – they believe in the nation state , borders and the family for example. Johnson proved there is a majority to be had for this.

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Malik Hills
Malik Hills
2 years ago
Reply to  chris Barton

The SDP you are referring to were already in government for 13 years, they weren’t called the SPD, by that stage they called themselves New Labour, is that who you would like to see in office again?

chris Barton
chris Barton
2 years ago
Reply to  Malik Hills

I’m talking about the real SDP currently led by William Clouston.

Clive Walker
Clive Walker
2 years ago
Reply to  chris Barton

Indeed, reading the SDP policy statements reveals the SDP to be the true ‘conservative; p[arty in the UK:
The Social Democratic Party – SDP

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Clive Walker

If they were they should have changed their name as I vowed to never ever vote for the SDP.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  chris Barton

Never heard of him. I’ve heard of Richard Tice and Neil Hamilton and of course Nigel Farage.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Malik Hills

Is there still an SDP party? I thought that was what the Libdems were which I would never ever vote for. The one who came to my door when asked about LGBT said well the Arabs had their whipping boys. That settled it forever for me.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
2 years ago
Reply to  Malik Hills

New Labour were left on culture and right on economics. They’re the polar opposite to what the SDP proposes

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
2 years ago

Suella Braverman was the standard bearer — unashamedly populist on immigration
Or maybe just the only true democrat in the entire shower?
Mass immigration is destroying our public services and pauperising a third of the population by squeezing wages and pushing up house prices and rents. Since the great wave began under Blair GDP per capita in this country has fallen by more than 20%. It’s time to stop the virtue signalling and hypocrisy over this and recognise that it cannot go on.
We cannot have open borders and a welfare state. We have to choose.

Andrew Martin
Andrew Martin
2 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Well it’s currently £1.4Billion to keep our Hotels in business. Perhaps another Billion and they might wake up.

Marcus Leach
Marcus Leach
2 years ago

It’s becoming apparent that the Tory Party is just as internally riven as the Labour Party.
In retrospect it was only Johnson’s particular qualities of being a pliant, unprinclipled, ideological vacuum, that was keeping the factions in check. As long as he remained popular in the polls and provided enough sops to each tribe to keep them satisfied, the Party could just about hold itself together.
With Johnson unpopularity necessitating his removal, there was inevitably going to be a bust up if one faction gained power and tried to assert itself in terms of policy. The largest faction being the social democrats (essentially Lib Dems) brought in as a result of David Cameron’s reforms, the attempt by Truss to assert an odd concoction of half-baked free market economics and fiscal incontinence, was doomed to fail. If a determined social democrat, Europhile or Eurosceptic candidate would have been appointed leader, they would similarly have been blocked and rendered impotent by the opposing factions.
It might take a few weeks or a few months, but the irreconcilable differences will bring the Tories down. Only 36 Tory MPs need to be convinced to vote against the government in a confidence motion. With the inevitable coming defections and the enormous amount of disaffection and enmity, I don’t think it’s going to take long to find the 36. The sickening and absurd spectacle of bringing back Boris Johnson, a man of exquisite incompetence and self-absortion, who did nothing but betray conservatives and ruin the national finances, should be enough to convince any Tory MP with a shred of decentcy, that this sad, pathetic farce needs to be brought to an end with a general election.

Last edited 2 years ago by Marcus Leach
Peter Dunn
Peter Dunn
2 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Leach

Nah…right now only Boris can save this sinking ship.

chris Barton
chris Barton
2 years ago
Reply to  Peter Dunn

Why save something that needs to die? (The Tory party)

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
2 years ago
Reply to  chris Barton

It’s already dead, killed off when it ‘murdered’ Lady T back in 1992.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago

Basically Heseltine who thought he would then be leader.

Walter Marvell
Walter Marvell
2 years ago
Reply to  Peter Dunn

Alas no. Whilst he was felled by a vicious media driven hysteria over attending a leaving do, Boris lost all authority when his cabinet deserted him screaming. Beating the insane Corbyn and ending Brex won him a victory. What does he offer now?? No. The Tories need morally sound smart trustworthy leaders. Rishi is the man and Rishi/Hunt the ticket to stop the deranged and v dangerous identitarian net zero degrowth, Statism and money tree addicts of Labour – party of the Blob.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
2 years ago
Reply to  Walter Marvell

Seriously? Sunak and Hunt will be the minions of the ueber rich and bankers – they will give them everything they want and won’t care a fig about anyone on less than £100k a year.
What’s needed now is pistols at dawn reminding the country abvout the bankrupt bankers in 2008 and how they betrayed the bailouts of the Taxpayers to behave just as badly for another 13 years.
You won’t get that from Rishi Sunak….

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
2 years ago
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

without bankers there would be no debt markets or manufacturing industries: the 2008 crisis was caused by artificial stimulation of the US housing market, in an effort to get house values to give poorer people in the US equity in their houses.. unfortunately, the US mortgage system allows mortgage borrowers to ” hand back the keys” after defaulting, and not have to pay back the mortgage… So the US mortgage lenders , funded by banks and investment institutions supplying cash, and then spinning it out as quasi bonds to global investment institutions and other banks, saw mortgages not being paid back, and house prices crashing… hence 2008.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
2 years ago

Correct, but in the not too distant past we used to refer to them, quite correctly as Money Lenders, and they worked in Counting Houses not Banks.
However the stench of Shylock & Fagin is hard to shake off, however unjustified.

Walter Marvell
Walter Marvell
2 years ago
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Seriously!!! I am no fan of these two. You simply have to imagine the havoc and horror that will be wrought by the likes of identitarian hate mongers like Clive Lewis, Lib Dem Pol Potists and the SNP if the Tories crash. The voting system will change so they can hoover up indoxtrinated Tory Hating and Climate Panicker Teens. For sure the markets will stop Starmers money tree programme. But a Labour win will usher in a full ugly Statist system…unions unbound and NHS type breakdown horrors everywhere…with zero free speech. Give me Rishi any day to prevent what looks inevitable today.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Walter Marvell

Pity he attends the WEF gloabist event. Very questionable to me.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Walter Marvell

Rishi and Hunt both attend the World Economic Forum in Davos who want world government where you will own nothing but you will be happy. Is this what you want?

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Peter Dunn

But he never finished Brexit properly. Particularly the Fishing and N Ireland plus all the EU statutes left on our books. If he put himself forward as the Brexit champion he should have finished the job which he didn’t.

Bill Bailey
Bill Bailey
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Conrad

Who would believe him a second time? IF every Brexiteer voted for the same party, then based upon the ‘brexit’ v ‘remain’ constituencies of 2016, that party would win a landslide even if every one else tried tactical voting. So perhaps someone should organize and woo the Brexiteers.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Bill Bailey

That would be UKIP and the Reform party then. If they made an alliance they might get somewhere but do they know how to co-operate with each other?

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
2 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Leach

People keep talking about the discontented Tory MPs as belonging in the LibDems but to conclude that you would need to know what the LibDems stand for. Apart from committing economic suicide by Net Zero, do they have any policies?

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago

Net Zero says it all. Another loony party.

Bill Bailey
Bill Bailey
2 years ago

Do the Tories? They still have Brown’s deficit, they still have Brown’s QE, they still have Brown’s 0 interest rates, they have espoused Labour’s IR35. Then they nicked the Green’s Net Zero and China’s Zero Covid lockdown – until they didn’t. Finding a Tory policy that is theirs alone is hard work

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
2 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Leach

A General Election now is pistols in the mouth for well over 100 Conservative MPs. Are they really going to accept absolutely certain defeat when there is the off chance of doing better whilst still earning £80k+ a year for 2 more years?

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
2 years ago
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

Off course not, why should an odious bunch of a avaricious, self-serving worms, cease plundering the public purse?

Andrew Martin
Andrew Martin
2 years ago
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

We’ll wait for Starmer’s manifesto to be published and then vote Conservative whoever is in.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Marcus Leach

How do you get a naff MP out without voting Labour? Tory means nothing when you are given a remainer globalist to vote for. Who is it that put these people up? As long as they win they do not care it appears.

Richard Calhoun
Richard Calhoun
2 years ago

The Political Parties have too much power over their MP’s and through them the electorate
‘Whipping’ and the Whips Office should be consigned to history … the power of the political parties should be diminished and the power of the electorate increased
MP’s should be free to represent their constituents directly and not through the conduit of the Whips Office

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
2 years ago

What’s ridiculous is that taxpayers put 1000 times as much into the Treasury each year as ‘political backers’ put into party funds. But the taxpayer gets no say and the backers can buy policies for the price of a few good lunches at Claridges, the Athanaeum or wherever.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Rhys Jaggar

If that is true then corruption is working in the Tory party and in the MP’s.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Conrad

It has been forever thus! “Dives in omnia”.

Bill Bailey
Bill Bailey
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Conrad

Corruption thrived in the local politics around Merseyside, perhaps even with Commissioners now in there, it still does.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago

To add to that there should be some input by the electorate with regards to who they put forward for the seats. Our one is way off and you cannot change it except to vote Labour.

Ben P
Ben P
2 years ago

 ….”unashamedly populist on immigration (an issue that socially liberal Tories feel relaxed on, economic liberals are enthusiastically in favour of, but others are firmly against), and widely regarded by the “sensibles” as swivel-eyed.”
Yet another msm scribbler who fails to read the room. Aside from cost of living it’s the number one concern amongst millions. But it’s never reported or discussed amongst the London media.

Andrew Martin
Andrew Martin
2 years ago

Grant Shapps as Home Secretary, what the …. What is this man doing in Conservative Party in the first place? I’ve seen his work first hand as Transport secretary where he has reduced my City, Oxford to a permanent Car park with the £Millions he has splurged on predominantly Liberal Democrat/ Labour Councils to shut main arterial roads in the City and introduce Low Traffic Noise filters and of course ULEZ in the City Centre. Worse of all it has set citizen against citizen. Small businesses are moving out to survive and large businesses like BMW are moving to high polluting China fed up with the Councils anti car rhetoric. Who needs a Conservative party with idiots like him?

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
2 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Martin

Given his antecedents what did you expect?

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Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
2 years ago

precisely… A veritable archducal Leounge Settee Toylitte …

Nicky Samengo-Turner
Nicky Samengo-Turner
2 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Martin

Shapps is the most frightful little man whom, given his ego/abilty ratio would otherwise be ” working somewhere like the Lloyd’s insurance market, the womb pit for the dismally untalented.

Brett H
Brett H
2 years ago

Sort of ironic that your real adversaries are in your own party.

Greta Hirschman
Greta Hirschman
2 years ago
Reply to  Brett H

Tell that to Julius Caesar.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Brett H

But it appears to be true.

AC Harper
AC Harper
2 years ago

It has been said that modern politicians are managerialists – so I suppose that we shouldn’t be surprised by spiteful plots hatching from ‘around the watercooler’.
It might all have been different if the Conservatives had had a smaller majority. A majority of 80ish allows malcontents a lot of room to be disloyal without standing out and getting blamed, but when they all do it…

Margaret Donaldson
Margaret Donaldson
2 years ago

If the Tory MPs had any gumption, they would support a vote of no confidence in the current government and vote themselves into a General Election now. That way the good ones might be able to keep their seats. But they don’t and they won’t and will be wiped out when the electorate is finally able to vote. They need to go into opposition for a few years and sort themselves out., i.e. analyse what conservatism actually means.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
2 years ago

Look,Labour don’t know what representing the workers means either – they are just two front operations who no longer represent their old constituencies.
We’ve got two broken parties and an FPTP system which doesn’t work any more.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
2 years ago

“A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within”. MTC.

(Thanks Aaron.)

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago

I actually think she is a very good MP who got scuppered by the Remainers and Globalists in the party. This is a dangerous party if that is the case. Who wants to submit to Europe or the globalists at the WEF?

Matt M
Matt M
2 years ago

Its going to be Boris 2, isn’t it? I think he will easily get 100 MPs and then he will be the favourite.
If so, for the sake of unity, he should appoint Rishi as Chancellor.

A B
A B
2 years ago
Reply to  Matt M

You’re kidding, right? Why would he? Although almost anybody’s better than Jeremy Hunt, including Larry the cat or his Treasury equivalent.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
2 years ago
Reply to  A B

He should appoint Rishi because, contrary to the line pushed endlessly by the remainer media class, they handled the pandemic better than their contemporaries elsewhere and at least had a coherent plan for recovery as well as for dealing with a variety of issues such as social care.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
2 years ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Oh please ‘our’ response to C -19 was truly pathetic. Granted NOT as bad as our European cretins but still absolutely appalling.
Here was a chance, immediately after Brexit, to put some ‘blue water’ between us and ‘them’ and we failed abysmally. For this we can thank that male hysteric, one Dom Cummings Esq and his ‘slave’ Boris, aka the “Yeti”.
If you doubt any of this, please refer to Lord Jonathan Sumption’s synopsis of the whole dreadful affair.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  A B

I think David Davies is about the best MP they have. Funny why he is never mentioned.

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Conrad

He blew it as the ‘Brexit Bulldog’ as I recall.

Rhys Jaggar
Rhys Jaggar
2 years ago
Reply to  Tony Conrad

David Davies is experienced, competent and honest. He’s the sort of chap you’d love to have as your son’s father-in-law (on the basis that he only has daughters).
Bankers want corrupt people they can blackmail and control. So do globalists.
Davies would be calling their bluff in the first week, and so they’d have to get rid of him.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
2 years ago

An interesting article. My only quibble is the implicit assumption that formulating policies that are popular with the electorate is somehow reprehensible.
“For most, the real north star is whatever motivates the voters and principles often come second to vibe.”

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart
2 years ago

Eddie Izzard for our first woman Labour leader, and next PM? Probably the only way Labour will ever be able to make such a claim.

Bring back Boris! We might as well make it a funny spectacle instead of the tragedy that was Truss.

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
2 years ago
Reply to  Ian Stewart

A man in a dress who used to be a comedian, and they make fun of Trump. I hate now.

Ian Stewart
Ian Stewart
2 years ago

You’ve seen Boris in a dress! 🙂

Dominic A
Dominic A
2 years ago

You can make fun of both. That ability is what we are desperately short of. Please UK let’s not import US problems – splitting, lack of nuance, proud ignorance.

Iris C
Iris C
2 years ago

Boris Johnson chose a cabinet from those he felt sure would not have the necessary support within the parliamentary party to oust him; Liz Truss chose a cabinet from those who supported her election, regardless of their ability.
If the next PM has the confidence to choose a cabinet of first-rate MPs who have the knowledge and ability to direct the ministries they are assigned, then there is still a hope that the Tories might regain enough ground before the next general election to challenge Labour.

Bill Bailey
Bill Bailey
2 years ago
Reply to  Iris C

There is no saving the global economy. Truss was at least right about the need for fossil fuels, but any improvements in supply are many years away, unless we make peace with Putin. So whoever is in power is going to carry the can. Truss made the mistake of lifting the lid on the complete mess our system is in, and the plight of the pension funds terrified many – not least the BoE, as their pension funds used derivatives apparently, this excerpt and link came from one of the newsletters Farage fronts.
“..the Bank of England’s most recent Pension Fund Annual report reveals that 82% of its own investments are in Legal and General’s LDI portfolio: Bailey has effectively been bailing he and his colleagues out in the process of bailing out the rest of the industry.”
https://www.efinancialcareers.com/news/2022/10/pay-bank-of-england

James Anthony Seyforth
James Anthony Seyforth
2 years ago

It’s fine, were heading for a good old ground up popular revolt, much overdue for a country teetering on the edge of social and economic apocalypse. There’s no other choice except oblivion as a country otherwise, and that goes further than politics as well.

F**k the blob and the petty implosions, they sealed their fate when they took our freedoms away and rinsed their constituents’ futures.

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John Riordan
John Riordan
2 years ago

Short answer to the headline is no, Truss wasn’t the worst. That crown belongs to Theresa May, whose failings were exposed through entirely unforced colossal errors of judgement in a political environment far less hostile and demanding than the present one.

That is not to say that Liz Truss can be let off the hook of course: I think that her and Kwasi Kwarteng’s tactics over their brief period in office must rank as the worst single example of failed policy communication in political history. The problem though is that strategically speaking, they were both right. It is not possible to continue with a tax and spend strategy in which the state effectively regards society and the private sector as its life support system, and society and the private sector will in due course make this clear to both the UK government and the other western governments that are all presently operating on this delusional conceit.

So basically it is too soon to make such a judgement upon Liz Truss. I don’t know how long it will take for her main message to be proved correct, but it will happen in due course. Then we can decide how bad she really was.

Johann Strauss
Johann Strauss
2 years ago

Boris for the greatest comeback in history, even better than Ali’s comeback against Frazer in the Thrilla in Manila!

JP Martin
JP Martin
2 years ago

Truss had become despised by almost everyone, for betraying her Cameroon origins to embrace a hard Brexit, and then acquiescing to a quiet coup from the other side.”
Editorial staff doing amazing work.

Pat Rowles
Pat Rowles
2 years ago
Reply to  JP Martin

I think it’s deliberate, as it appears twice in the article (see also “…the One Nation tag seemed to stick to Cameroons who had no issues with austerity…”). Nick Tyrone used it in a Spectator article a few months ago, and I’m starting to see it as an obscure/unfunny joke/pun to reference members of David Cameron’s government.

JP Martin
JP Martin
2 years ago
Reply to  Pat Rowles

Interesting, thanks.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
2 years ago
Reply to  Pat Rowles

It’s been used that way for years.

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  JP Martin

Cameroon origins?

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
2 years ago

Now is the time for a Cincinnatus, but sadly it ain’t Boris.

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
2 years ago

There should be someone on every corner pounding a drum BOOM BOOM BOOM Bring Back Boris BOOM BOOM BOOM. Partygate is looking more ridiculous with every passing day, a feast for the scolds while everything else went to hell.

Adam Bartlett
Adam Bartlett
2 years ago

Thanks for this. For most of the last century, compared with the Left, the political right has been much better at closing ranks at times of crisis or opportunity. I saw this especially around 2010 in the aftermath of the global Keynesian resurgence. Nations recovered from 2008 in proportion to the boldness of their Keynesian stimulus, which should have destroyed arguments against the strong interventionist state. But Left parties were weakened by internal factions trying to go their own way, while the right cohered together, hence we largely got austerity and 10 years of too low public investment.
So I was wondering why things have gone so pear for the Tories, and this excellent article explains recent events nicely.

Josef Oskar
Josef Oskar
2 years ago

Boris Johnson was elected in a landslide by the British people, he had to go. Liz Truss was elected by a decent majority of the Tory party members, she had to go. In the Italian language they say: ‘there is no two without three’. Where exactly is democracy heading to ?

Srinivasa Sarma
Srinivasa Sarma
2 years ago

It appears that Truss was elected as a leader of the party in order to stop the party from losing power. You don’t need any enemy to pull you down, when your house is not in order. If by next Friday, the party is going to elect a leader in order to stop Labour Party taking advantage of down fall of the present government, then there is no light at the end of the tunnel for Conservative party.
They should stick together to serve the party, but not serve themselves.

Tony Thomas
Tony Thomas
2 years ago

The minimum qualification for all potential MP’s, should be at least 10 years earning a commercial living in the real world.

Stu B
Stu B
2 years ago

Bleak.

Kenny Harris
Kenny Harris
2 years ago

Blair and then May both arrogant and prepared sell out the of people and what is left of our? Country.

Lancastrian Oik
Lancastrian Oik
2 years ago

Theresa May’s ministry failed to either placate or nullify the hard-line Brexiteers, giving them enough space to undermine her attempts to reach a settlement with the EU. 

May and Hammond tried deliberately to stitch up the negotiations such that Britain would be at best “semi-detached” and with a much simpler path to rejoining, whilst trying to sell the result as “Brexit” when it was nothing of the sort.

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Perry de Havilland
Perry de Havilland
2 years ago

Theresa May’s ministry failed to either placate or nullify the hard-line Brexiteers, giving them enough space to undermine her attempts to reach a settlement with the EU.”
By “settlement” you mean make sure that Brexit was ‘Brexit In Name Only’.

Simon Adams
Simon Adams
2 years ago

Truss may have been blinded in a kind of protestant “sola ideology” sense, and certainly failed to appoint a broad cabinet that could draw the party together. However she certainly wasn’t worse than, say, Anthony Eden. Perhaps she didn’t have long enough to be that bad, but her biggest fault was doing what the Conservative party members wanted her to do.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
2 years ago

Perhaps Rishi Sunak can run again? He seems an excellent choice, although the Premiership seems to be a thankless task.

Aaron James
Aaron James
2 years ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

Sunak = Starmer

But Hunt = WEF, CCP, Globalist

so that is no answer. Hunt must be the worst man in UK Politics to have power.

The Conservatives are same as USA Democrat – sort of Blair lite – Money Printing, Energy shutting, Lockdown happy, vax mandate pushing, warmongering Neo-Cons. (notice Biden and Borris were identical)

Tony Conrad
Tony Conrad
2 years ago
Reply to  Aaron James

Hunt = You will own nothing but you will be happy.

Andrew Martin
Andrew Martin
2 years ago
Reply to  Aaron James

Aaron… whilst I agree with your prognosis, if Johnson was to be PM again he would surely get rid of Hunt and to the lesser degree the remainer Shapps which would then send the Markets ( who now actually run this Country) into a tailspin.

chris Barton
chris Barton
2 years ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

One of the men who bankrupted us and debased the currency is the man to save us?

CHARLES STANHOPE
CHARLES STANHOPE
2 years ago
Reply to  chris Barton

Sunak is a perfect example of “the unacceptable face of Capitalism “, as we used to say.

Andrew Martin
Andrew Martin
2 years ago
Reply to  chris Barton

Yes and the man who didn’t even co-ordinate with the banks where the money he released for Covid support went to. Some Chancellor. we do know that some went to three Zoos based in a small Village in North Wales.