'Germany needed its fix of cheap Russian energy. And like any addict, it wanted more.' Sean Gallup / Getty Images

Mounted atop a former warehouse in Hamburg’s industrial-era docklands, the billowing form of the Elbphilharmonie concert hall rises above Germany’s second-largest city like an ocean wave. The glass-panelled building crowns a new, forward-looking section of the city, a modern and elegant counterpoint to the seedy Reeperbahn nearby. Built with the help of taxes raised from round-the-clock trade from the sprawling port it overlooks, it’s a testament to the country’s remarkable success as a trading nation, as globalisation opened new markets for “Made in Germany” goods.
The building’s scope and ambition echo the Victorian grandeur that can be found in Liverpool and London, and the epic public buildings of Paris, Antwerp and Amsterdam. It’s a building that marks a golden age. Its foundation stone was laid in 2007, when Germany was still Exportweltmeister (world’s top exporter) and before the convulsions of Brexit, Donald Trump’s trade wars, and Vladimir Putin’s efforts to carve up and control Ukraine. The opulent venue was finally finished in 2017, the same year Angela Merkel secured her final term as chancellor and the far-Right AfD showed signs of its political potential. Less than a decade later, it looks like a totem to a bygone era.
Few countries profited from the postwar order as much as Germany. It was well protected from the tumult of power politics thanks to America’s protective shield which allowed the country’s leaders to pursue a mercantilist agenda. But the world has turned more volatile. The re-election of Donald Trump effectively killed off the post-Cold War vision of ever greater global integration. That’s a particularly acute problem for the world’s most trade-dependent major economy and creates a dilemma about where and how Germany will sell its goods.
Just how unprepared Germany is for the crumbling world order emerged in spring 2022, when a diplomatic scandal unfolded. It involved Frank-Walter Steinmeier, the President of Germany — a ceremonial role, which is supposed to be apolitical, even though it is often filled by a former politician. So it’s unusual for a German president to get embroiled in an international spat. But that’s what happened.
A few weeks after the war in Ukraine broke out, Steinmeier was getting ready for a journey to Kyiv in a show of support that was a tantalising opportunity for him. But the ensuing fiasco served as a prime example of why Europe’s largest economy struggles to take a leading role in global affairs.
Just days before Steinmeier’s planned departure, a train station in the hard-fought Donetsk Oblast was hit by a Russian rocket, killing dozens of people who were trying to flee. In the midst of that carnage, Steinmeier was still hoping to make an appearance, but Ukraine baulked. It was a shock given Germany’s critical role in the country’s support network.
A brief note arrived via diplomatic channels stating that Steinmeier’s visit would be “more substantial and more acceptable” if he travelled independently. That’s diplomatic language for “stay away”. It was a clear affront, and Steinmeier’s ego was bruised. For weeks he stewed. Chancellor Olaf Scholz rallied to his side, vowing not to travel to Kyiv until the issue was sorted out. So while Ukraine was fighting for its survival and clamouring for artillery, air-defence systems and ammunition, it had to deal with the vanities of a man who played a key role in emboldening Russia’s aggression.
Before being appointed as president in 2017, Steinmeier helped deepen Germany’s dependence on the Kremlin. He was foreign minister under Angela Merkel and before that the chief of staff for Gerhard Schrӧder. After leaving power, the former chancellor was quickly and controversially hired as a well-paid adviser to Russian firms.
Under Steinmeier’s watch, Germany started mainlining Russian gas via the first Nord Stream pipeline in 2005. Steinmeier extended those ties while serving as Germany’s top diplomat twice. In his first stint (2005–9) he refused to let the murders of opposition figures Anna Politkovskaya and Alexander Litvinenko or the invasion of Georgia get in the way of good vibes between the countries. During his second term as foreign minister (2013–17), Russia illegally annexed Crimea, which Steinmeier and many other leading German figures quickly normalised.
Shortly before the land grab in early 2014, Steinmeier was in Moscow and set an accommodating tone, urging a new “positive agenda” in relations with Russia. He underscored that message, which was the mainstream view in Berlin, in an interview with the Russian newspaper Kommersant during the visit: “It is important to me to offer a trusting and constructive cooperation with Moscow.” He even suggested that the Kremlin had a role to play in resolving political tensions in Ukraine — a dangerous signal for pro-democracy demonstrators at a time when the Maidan uprising was in full swing. The message from Berlin was that Germany’s relations with Russia were a higher priority than whatever else was going on in the region.
That approach didn’t change following Crimea’s annexation or after Russia-backed forces took control of parts of the Donetsk and Luhansk regions of Ukraine. Instead, Steinmeier sought to continue negotiations with Moscow and lobbied for reining in sanctions, citing concerns that Russia could be destabilised. He then went a step further and proposed a formula as part of the Minsk talks to freeze the conflict in eastern Ukraine.
It was clear what the priority was: Germany needed its fix of cheap Russian energy. And like any addict, it wanted more. The Nord Stream 2 pipeline was supposed to be another direct injection from Russian gas fields to Germany’s industrial infrastructure. The project was given the green light in 2015, just one year after the annexation of Crimea — so much for punishing the aggressor and standing strong for liberal values.
For years, Steinmeier and the rest of the German establishment continued to back Nord Stream despite warnings by the United States and other European allies that it posed a security risk for Germany and in turn Nato. Merkel defended Nord Stream, as did Olaf Scholz, as did the entire political mainstream in Berlin, collectively dodging political culpability by disingenuously labelling the pipeline as a mere commercial project. The attitudes towards Nord Stream and Russian gas stand out, but aren’t unique. German politics is largely an extension of the country’s business interests. Commerce regularly outweighs broader concerns of politics, security, or much less moral values, because of the central role that economics and affluence plays in the identity of postwar Germany. So when Germany’s elite saw how much money could be made in tapping Russia’s vast resources, the political establishment fell into line by not poking the bear in Moscow, regardless of its actions. It didn’t end there.
The head of Siemens went to meet with Putin less than two weeks after Crimea’s annexation, facilitating Moscow’s plans to decouple the peninsula from Ukraine’s power grid Siemens also got deeply involved with the Russian rail network. A veritable conga line of executives gave their seal of approval to the Kremlin’s aggression. BASF, Uniper, Volkswagen and Daimler were active as well. So while the postwar order was under attack in Germany’s own backyard, the country was actively profiteering.
Ahead of the planned trip to Kyiv, Steinmeier did offer a mea culpa after being accused of having a “spider’s web” of contacts in Russia, connecting his stance with a broad-based shift towards detente starting with the 1975 Helsinki Accords. But given his efforts to engage with the Kremlin, it’s hardly surprising that Kyiv wasn’t thrilled about serving as a backdrop for his rehabilitation.
A thaw only started with a telephone call between Steinmeier and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky in May 2022. Finally in October (more than seven months after the war started), the German president visited Ukraine. “My message to the people in Ukraine is: You can rely on Germany!” he said during the visit. The boast rang hollow then and the emptiness echoed long after.
To be fair, there are historical reasons why Germany has a soft spot for Russia. Berlin is dotted with a dozen Soviet monuments, including an imposing memorial and a cemetery with the remains of more than 13,000 Red Army soldiers. Unlike in former Eastern European countries, no cranes or bulldozers have come to topple them. That’s part of Germany’s post-Nazi memory culture: Soviet troops were the first to enter Berlin. In addition to that historical debt, the people in former communist East Germany have a certain affinity towards Moscow that was nurtured during years of hardship following reunification. Having said that, standing up to Russia doesn’t come as naturally to Germany as it does to America and Great Britain. And it’s especially hard to do when cheap Russian energy is fuelling the economy.
Germany’s policy of appeasement with Russia dates back at least to Willy Brandt’s Ostpolitik in the Seventies when the fate of the East Germans was at stake and reaching out to the Kremlin opened up the prospect of creating holes in the Iron Curtain. After reunification, Germany didn’t have the same noble aims. Instead, the focus was on money.
On top of the Russia question, Germany struggled to get its mind around a military conflict. For Berlin’s mercantilist mindset, the economic risks of an invasion of Ukraine were too high even for Putin. That stems from a post-military perspective. After spending decades under America’s shield, the country’s leadership had embraced Francis Fukuyama’s “end of history” idea after the Berlin Wall fell. The great ideological battles were over and liberal democracy had won. Rather than brinkmanship and bloodshed, conflicts could be resolved through diplomacy and international institutions. That made a robust military unnecessary. It was an appealing (and indeed self-serving) approach for Germany in its reconstituted form, straddling the former Iron Curtain and striving for affluence above all else.
There was also solid public support for leaving militarism behind. For most Germans, military spending was a waste of money and an uncomfortable reminder of the country’s Nazi past. Every mission was hotly contested by the public, and hardly any politician was going to stick their neck out and demand more money for weapons and soldiers. Before the invasion of Ukraine, German news coverage underscored doubts about the military, focusing on the Bundeswehr’s scandals and dysfunction. The outcome was feeble spending, with Germany regularly missing Nato’s guidelines to spend at least 2% of GDP on defence. You would have to go back to 1991 to find that level of investment.
In that context, Scholz’s Zeitenwende speech a few days after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine was indeed historic. He took advantage of the moment by announcing a special €100 billion fund to upgrade the military and broke with postwar tradition by promising to deliver lethal weapons to a conflict zone. Germany did become one of Kyiv’s chief suppliers of military equipment, behind only the United States. But the momentum was choppy and every new step was accompanied by hand-wringing over fears of escalation.
The slow walk of support, with Scholz hemming and hawing over weapons, gave the impression that Germany doubted that a Ukraine victory was possible and preferred normalisation sooner rather than later.
At the end of the day, Germany’s motivations are rather straightforward. Although the country moralises about freedom, democracy and human rights, its chief aim is protecting German affluence. Even after the invasion, the country continued filling up Russian coffers. In 2022 it transferred €97 million every single day for energy and other imports, a 6.5% increase. The following year, trade with Russia still totalled nearly €12.6 billion despite sanctions and the end of most energy purchases, making the country more important to the German economy than EU partners Greece, Bulgaria and Lithuania — and of course more important than Ukraine. Also, exports suddenly shot up to Central Asian countries like Kyrgyzstan, indicating former Soviet republics were serving as a way station for goods heading to Russia.
Aside from the blow to Germany’s credibility, Scholzing hampered progress towards a military capable of deterring or containing conflicts in the future. “Decades of counting pennies” left the country’s defence forces with a stockpile of ammunition that would only last days in the event of an attack. Radio equipment, armoured vehicles, ships and planes were all dated. The total price tag for modernising the German military has been pegged at some €300 billion, or three times the Zeitenwende budget, and that’s looking optimistic given the proliferation of crises.
In the wake of February’s federal election, the incoming Chancellor Friedrich Merz has moved to secure more funding for Germany’s military. After a fiery speech from US Vice President JD Vance at the Munich Security Conference just before the vote, it has become increasingly clear even in Berlin that action is needed. Taking advantage of the still-serving parliament, which is friendlier to military outlays than the one just voted in, Merz plans to amend Germany’s constitution to exempt defence spending from fiscal limits and pledged to do “whatever it takes” to protect the country.
But Germany’s military impotence isn’t just about money and hardware. There are also severe structural issues that are very common across the economy. Navigating the labyrinth of approvals and procedures means upgrading the Bundeswehr’s infrastructure alone would take half a century and getting approval for a commercially available flight helmet took 10 years — a negative highlight of German inefficiency. And on top of hard-power failings, Germany’s intelligence network has displayed alarming gaps throughout the years, downplaying threats and being unable to keep Russian and Chinese espionage in check.
February’s election also exposed how fragile support for strengthening the Bundeswehr could be. The far-Left Linke and far-Right AfD — both opposed to increased military spending and supportive of closer ties with Russia — surged in the polls. Young Germans, who would be called on to fight in the event of a conflict, disproportionately backed these fringes, raising the spectre of deep societal fractures if Germany is forced to reinstate some form of conscription to rebuild its armed forces. Cuts to welfare to free up defence spending could further inflame divisions.
Immediately after Russia’s invasion of Ukraine, General Alfons Mais, head of the German Army, lamented that the Bundeswehr was “more or less bare”. It was a collective failing. The political establishment had turned a blind eye to dangers, even if they were clear and present. That points to an issue of mentality, a more vexing problem than money or structure. Does Germany really want to lead? “We all saw it coming” after the annexation of Crimea but failed to act, General Mais said. “That doesn’t feel good! I am angry!”
Germany has a tendency to drift back to a reassuring status quo and avoid change. The uncomfortable reality is that it doesn’t have that luxury anymore. Business is no longer just business, and security is no longer a spectator sport, especially after the first Trump administration raised doubts about American commitment to its pampered European allies. The German Council on Foreign Relations warned in 2023 that it’s a question of when and not if the country has to fight in a war, predicting a window of less than a decade.
Despite the shock over its missteps, the country has struggled to shift gears. It took two years following Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine for Rheinmetall (the maker of Leopard tanks) to break ground on a new munitions factory. Despite all of its lauded manufacturing prowess, Germany hasn’t come close to gearing up for the security challenges it faces, raising questions over the political will.
The war in Ukraine has exposed the country’s naïveté, even to Germans. Tanks rolling towards Kyiv showed how foolhardy it was to tie Germany’s energy system to a former KGB agent nostalgic for the dark days of the Soviet Union. The war also ended Germany’s soothing illusion that hard power is passé. There’s at least one positive thing to come out of Germany’s foreign-policy reality check: the country’s diplomats will almost certainly never justify deals with autocrats with the smug Wandel durch Handel (Change through trade) policy. Post-Ukraine pacts with Qatar and Saudi Arabia will instead be sealed in the name of energy security. But at least that requires a more active, case-by-case justification. The risk is that the interest in a fundamental reorientation of defence and foreign policy fades as soon as pressure eases. That’s often been the case in Germany, which is good at mobilising in a crisis, but equally adept at reverting to regular routines as soon as the heat is off. Germany’s leaders need a long-term strategy. Simply repeating the word Zeitenwende isn’t enough.
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A version of this essay appears in Broken Republik: The Inside Story of Germany’s Descent into Crisis by Chris Reiter & Will Wilkes, out now with Bloomsbury.
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SubscribeNot familiar with Mr Watts’ oeuvre, but will search him out. Interesting thing is that before Ben Elton and ‘alternative’ comedy kicked in, it was often quite difficult to discern what many comedians’ politics were. Even quite ‘political’ ones like Peter Cooke or (at the middlebrow end) Mike Yarwood. I suspect that many were on the left, but nobody minded much as long as they were funny. Its not the leftiness that’s off-putting, but the tiresome preaching, virtue signalling and general unfunniness.
It’s when comedians became personalities rather than entertainers that the trouble started.
Yes, and the revisionist but often interesting revelations regarding people we knew mainly for their end results has given us a world of ‘ Love his paintings but can’t stand the man.’ Soon to become the PC. ‘ I can’t stand anything about him.’
Nuance has died. Subtly is not recognised. Experimentation is far too risky at any point in a career path.
It is hard to have comedy when a Monty Python sketch is easily mistaken for a News report these days.
He’s not the new trade envoy, he’s a very naughty boy!
Monty Python sketches generally make more sense than much of what’s actually happening; you really could not make up some of what is happening at the moment
‘An article in this morning’s Guardian said that this would lead to a decline in quality, as, according to “a BBC comedy insider”, most Right-wing comics “aren’t very good”,’
Has there ever been a newspaper/website that disseminates more garbage, utter garbage, than the Guardian? How could the quality possibly be any lower than that which is currently served up to us? The defining characteristic of pretty much every comedian one sees or hears these days – certainly in the UK, less so in the US – is that they are not funny. I switched off years ago.
The BBC quotes the Guardian. The Guardian quotes the BBC. Their own private echo chamber.
Well that solves one problem. I’d often wondered who found the BBC’s current stable of comedians funny. Now I know – Guardian journalists (who, BTW, need a ‘comedy insider’ to tell them what’s funny).
Just a thought, why do you still read the Guardian?
Know thine enemy!
That’s why I read the Guardian! So I’m not the only one.
To be honest, the Guardian is not all that extreme, compared to, say, Mein Kampf.
Although my granddad’s copy of the book kept the head of his bed level for decades. The Guardian, sheet by sheet, kept the red Formica table top clean.
I often wonder which one was the most useful.
You have a point. One is broader the other is thicker, internet Jihadis are truly missing out. The Little Red Book is great for that very reason. If you have more than one copy you can raise a table leg to any practical height. And It’s a fetching shade.
I sometimes wish the Guardian was printed on softer paper though.
Although, the paperback edition of Mein Kampf does come in handy sized rip off sheets, if you find it hung on a rusty nail in the toilet.
The problem seems to be more about Wokism than politics.
As a person of a certain age, I have two confessions to make:
– I really like my mother-in-law
– I find Les Dawson really funny
BBC comedy has become strangled by a “literalist” mentality that denies people the ability to escape … and to have fun.
Or am I just a right wing extremist ,,, ?
Les Dawson was a genius.
It was the anti-mother-in-law joke brigade that started the rot.
Of course, being London based elites, they lived no-where near their mothers-in-law so had no idea why the joke was unfunny to them.
It’s amazing how little empathy the left have.
The main problem that they have is that they have internalised the dogmatic, but false, belief that “punching down isn’t funny”. Punching down can be funny; punching up can be funny; punching sideways can be funny; punching yourself can be funny. But the woke puritans have convinced themselves that punching down can never be funny, much as religious puritans convince themselves that punching at religion or god can never be funny. Conservative comedians stand not accused of being unfunny: they stand accused of secular blasphemy.
In addition to which, they have a distinct lack of appreciation of what is up and what is down.
An excellent point.
My elbow is down, I think.
Andrew Watts points out that conservatives tend to find the dynamics of friends, family etc more interesting and funny than politics. But, for example, that old staple of stand up comedy – the mother-in-law joke – is now verboten.
I have wondered if part of the reason for the decline in “mother-in-law” jokes is the catastrophic decline in marriage rates. If all you have are a string of baby-mommas you’ve pumped and dumped, you presumably don’t engage with their mothers enough to make it worth joking about.
You obviously for got the threesomes with the 34 yr old mother in law & her daughter
Yes, there are some consolations.
We ought to be able to punch down if those who are ‘down’ advocate Ideological nonsense. It seems the Left generally think that being down automatically makes one relatively more virtuous.
For a period after the Second World War comedy especially on the radio was – with apologies for making it sound too grand – about the absurdity of life (including the things people have daily to contend with) and of the human condition (of unworthy people exercising authority, of stupidity, of frustrated ambition). Tony Hancock was one of the greatest masters. The absurdities of people of every rank and type was gently parodied in enormously popular programmes such as the Navy Lark and Round the Horne. Much of it was gentle in that it was based on experience, understanding and a degree of warmth. The new Left-wing “comedy” has no basis of warmth or experience but is based on simplistic sociological and political mantras of rejection and revulsion aimed at those they regard as legitimate targets. Of these targets, those for whom this new humour approaches most closely a cold hatred and contempt are those opponents they fear and – when it dares to appear to reject those mantras (as over Brexit) – that body of people who used to be called the working class.
The point about audiences reacting predictably and having a generally leftward bent is a good one.
One effect of this is to make a number of current comedians, especially on the BBC, lazy.
They know that any reflex remark playing to broad political stereotypes will raise a laugh of some sort so they go with it, in preference to embarking on something more demanding, ( or often cleverer).
Nish Kumar is often guilty of this, and his Mash Report often features little else.
Jeremy Hardy was significantly to the left of even the BBC comedy pool, but, whilst not above the quick, cheap laugh gag, had, at the heart of his act, literate, thoughful, clever, comedy that demanded attention. Even though he and his comedy were, in my view, as wrongheaded as his good friend Jeremy Corbyn, he was often worth listening to.
It’s probably partly due to University culture taking over everything. A lot of the classic comedians from the 70s and 80s came through working mans clubs and pubs, today it’s more or less an annex of the Oxbridge English faculty. Inevitably the content and values became separated from a lot of the public.
The university mob have taken over everything. Along with almost royal dynasties like the Fox’s for example.
When they’ve ruined everything they usurped they’ll establish long dynasties of dustbin men and road sweepers, seeing as they will become the most visible public facing jobs as this country collapses.
Damn it! If only I had the talent so that I too could tread the roads under those bright street lights.
Sorry. I went a bit Tim Brooke Taylor then.
(I posted this the other day, so forgive the repetition here but I thought it apposite)
Geoff Norcott is always wheeled out as the comedian that disproves that all BBC comedy is leftist – but GN, as funny as he is, is essentially playing a character. The audience is invited to laugh at (not with) his observations because he is depicted as an unreconstructed Faragiste, a cartoon Brexit untermensch, a figure of fun because his opinions are SO outrageous (despite them actually being the majority view the last time we asked).
Even a man like Ian Hislop, who made a career out of having a dig at the establishment, has become – since the referendum – the sneering face of on-air remoanerism. (To clarify: I have no problem with Remainers, I might disagree with them but theirs is a perfectly justifiable position. Remoaners, on the other hand, refuse to enter into any serious debate (certainly any good natured debate) with those of their countrymen who happened to think differently to them. All they can do is sneer and throw insults. Ian Hislop is very much one of that cohort.
Once a satirist has picked sides and only attacks the ‘Other’ he ceases to be in any way relevant. It has made HIGNFY unwatchable and Private Eye unreadable. And that is the biggest problem with the current state of British satire and comedy – it has taken sides.
Pick any comedy panel show – be it HIGNFY, Mock the Week, The Now Show, Last Leg, any terrestrial channel comedy panel show, and try and find any that goes against the ‘liberal’ orthodoxy. There isn’t a single one.
One or two comedians dare to kick against the traces – but only in stand-up and only once they’ve made an unassailable name for themselves, because they know it comes at the cost of a lucrative TV career. You can only establish a successful stand-up career at the moment by building your name up on such comedy panel programmes.
If any booker actually had the balls to book a comedian who came out with a whole anti-EU schtick, or made fun of the infantile XR carnival of no-marks, or possibly mocked any aspect of identity politics or the current accommodations towards “woke” culture wars – they would guarantee firstly that that the comedian never got booked again for that show and secondly that the booker would be hauled in front of the commissioning editor the next morning for an interview without coffee.
Neither the booker, nor the guest – if they value their careers – dares to step outside the liberal consensus. To do so would be to get a flavour of what it would be like to be accused of heresy.
Another strange thing is that we all still refer to this as the “liberal consensus”. It is, surely, the very antithesis of “liberal” thought. What could possibly be more authoritarian than promoting a narrow worldview and punishing and shaming anyone who dares to think outside it? One of the favourite insults when castigating the right is “Orwellian”, do they honestly not see that the tag could be far better applied to this insistence we all adhere to the orthodoxy or face the consequences?
The satirists of the 1960s, 70s and 80s would hang their heads at the neo-puritanism, the homogeneity of today’s crop of comics. Actually none of those people would even get the gig nowadays. The head of BBC comedy commissioning proudly stated that the Python crew would never be hired today, because who wants more Oxbridge educated white men? Right on! Who cares if they’re funny, just don’t let them be well educated and white!
The current panel show regulars who infest our screens may tick all the right boxes, might fulfil all the right quotas, might make fun of all the approved targets and avoid making fun of all the ‘protected victim groups’, but some of these ‘comedians’ (to stretch the definition almost to breaking point) fail in one rather important area – THEY ARE NOT FUNNY. (Has anyone, honestly, ever actually belly-laughed at anything Nish Kumar or Holly Walsh have ever said? Or a hatful of – evidently forgettable – others)
Don’t get me wrong, there are plenty who are talented, plenty who are funny, but for all their supposed “edginess” there isn’t one who’d dare admit to an unapproved political viewpoint.
Good post. I admired Hislop until the run up to the referendum when, along with many others, his contempt for anyone not sharing his views, and his characterisation of those wishing to leave as racist, xenophobic, bigoted ignoramuses (sadlynot ignorami) on HIGNFY was responsible, in part for my actually looking into the EU and changing my (unthinking) ‘stay’ vote into ‘leave’.
Was unsure about Geoff N, but your analysis makes sense of why he gets a platform – a sort of modern Alf Garnett.
I find it particularly strange that a series like Famalam appears to produce the same stereotypical views of communities that would get them taken off the air if they were the product of a white team. Have not seen the new Sky series, (will not pay for Sky) but the trailers appear to project a similar format. The awful Citizen Khan baffles me.
(Just watched some more of Geoff N on youtube – I think his basic left-leaning becomes more noticeable the more you watch; definitely not what he first appears to be)
My grandsons and their friends love the Goon Show from the fifties. I asked them why and the general opinion is that they are all idiots doing really stupid things . The shows have no politics at all. Just daft stories and funny voices. As always Bluebottle is the favourite.
The Goon Show gags are individually pretty weak, but as a torrent of mind bending humour they’re overwhelmingly funny. They start with a ridiculous premise and by the end of the show it looks sane by comparison with what’s been going on.
Some of the gags are universal. Many need the listener to have 30s 40s 50s experience or know the history to put them into context.
“Here, take my hand.” Followed quickly by, “Why? Are you a stranger in paradise?.”
Is not at all funny if you don’t know the lyrics to that song for example. And in response to Dave Smith. My son loves them too and I only heard them 10 years after their heyday.
Oh, come on, there are some really funny jokes.
“That sun’s hot!”
“Well don’t touch it then.’
And the unforgettable;
“Are you responsible for the berths on this ship?” (Think about it)
They did poke fun at authority, the HofC, the HofL, officialdom generally, and, of course, the BBC – the hand that fed them, but it was generalised, not related to any party or personality.
My nephews loved them when they became teenagers, along with Flanders and Swan. Always meant to introduce them to Tom Lehrer (Flanders and |Swan for adults) if you’ve not come across him, have a listen. And Victor Borge, the list goes on; Eric Sykes and Hatty Jakes as ‘identical twins’ (recently found “The Plank” on youtube and others). Oh God, please bring them back. The overt, personality politics drains any humour out of the present bunch.
I really shouldn’t comment, mainly because I no longer watch TV or listen to anything but news on radio. The lack of funny comedians reflects the decline in general of humour over many years. We can still have a good laugh with friends but entertainers – Bah! The last entertainer I paid to see was Ken Dodd. Early twenties. Bring sandwiches said the booking clerk. A bit odd but hay ho! Nearly one in the morning we were still howling with laughter, Even the police who were only there to see everyone out safely couldn’t stop crying. We were exhausted. Magic. I hired Roy Castle for a dinner in the 80’s and he was still cracking ’em and playing various instrument 2 am. Fabulous.
How would Dave Allen go down now? I bet all of us around before the 1990’s could go on for ever. At least some of the best are on You Tube and we have memories of just how funny many comedians were. Gone now and I fear never to return. Sad really.
I have absolutely no idea what the politics of Frank Muir and Dennis Norden were. They were funny.
And don’t forget Graham Garden.
The trick with political comedy is for it to be genuinely funny; especially by attacking hypocrisy and behaviour rather than people.
As a South African I think the prime example must be Pieter-Dirk Uys who poked fun at every segment of (white) society, and even though his shows were often on the verge of being banned he was so funny that he had government minsters as fans.
“An article in this morning’s Guardian said that…according to “a BBC comedy insider”, most Right-wing comics “aren’t very good”.
Translation: one leftwinger’s leftwing mate told him right wing comics aren’t funny.
Funny that.
Harry Enfield in his Wayne and Waynetta sketches and Little Britain in the Lou and Andy sketches mocked the abuse of the welfare state. This is right-wing comedy. Because they mocked other people, though, the comedians were not right-wing. It’s more interesting to ask why the left-wing chatterati didn’t object to these sketches. Probably because their contempt for the white working-class meant that they agreed with the sentiments.
The inability of the BBC to understand comedy is because the BBC sees itself as a band of rebels, when in fact the organisation is part of the Establishment. Executives at the corporation are left baffled and bemused at why overpaid quangocrats should be a cause for humour.
Bring back Tommy cooper & jimmy Cricket they never effed & blinded even in private club venues even cheesy foul mouth when of public stage Bob Monk house had a place . But for goodness sake leave the foulmouthed political squawkers off the public stage . Had the unfortunate experience of being next to the foul mouthed Willie Thorburn and a few months later next to David Mellor when both were on the after dinner speaker circuit .
Judging by the hilarious laughter and number of happy sparkling people Mellor won hands down . Thorburn’s performance was for the most an embarrassed obligatory cough & two ha ha’s save for the six or seven 3 parts J golfers in the 200 plus audience . People got up and walked out on Thorburn they didn’t when Mellor was there having people virtually eating out of his hand for the whole 2 hrs he was performing … Reason his act was original full of new amusing jokes and not a political jibe or snidey remark all night .
Oh yes ..I’ll even admit to being on of the fools who voted Tony Blair into office …. Then one day I became a dad , got a mortgage & grew up . Never to waste my life ever again on such a weak urine’d group of Onanists .
One of the unfortunate changes in radio comedy is that it has gone from satire to making fun of your political opponents. They are not the same. The former is not afraid to point out the absurdities in all who wield power. The second is an exercise in confirming your existing prejudices. The News Quiz and the Now Show had a terrible problem with Corbyn and also Brexit. They were not able to take advantage of the own goals that presented themselves from time to time because their audience and comics had so obviously nailed their colours to the Leftist/ Remain mast. It has eased off a bit now but not much.
I think the most important thing if you want to be a comic is that you are funny – people might forget that!
‘That was the Week That Was’, November, 1962.
Yes, he certainly did, and even made a success of in the USA.
He was always polite, affable, and firm. Hence he got spectacular results which remain unequaled to this day.
The era of rudeness and aggression started with that BBC ‘legend’, Robin Day.
Yes his early years were his best. Once fame and fortune came,he certainly became more “establishment”, but he did have three boys at Eton and was eventually married to the daughter of the Duke of Norfolk.
However we could certainly do with him today to gently roast Boris and eviscerate Mr Cummings, don’t you think?
Yes indeed, I was expecting Mr Cummings to sort out the Quango Queens and the Civil Service in general. Patience is a virtue I am told
One the causes of the collapse of the Western Roman Empire is thought to have been the massive increase in “idle mouths”, officials, priests and the like.
As a result of the reforms of Diocletian in the early fourth century, the Province of Britannia seems to have been sub divided into four, perhaps even five ‘new’ Provinces. Same number of tax payers just five times as many officials to support! A case of deja vu?
No. I hadn’t read it.
Many thanks indeed!
An excellent essay by Mr Fear, and as you say, so very apposite, considering the trials and tribulations of today!
Off course, even a Neoplatonist like Synesius, was forced to conform by becoming a Christian Bishop. Christianity had become the State, and thus only religion, during his youth. Sadly only he and a few others recognised the dangers ahead.
Boris, given his Classical education has no excuse, but seems paralysed by the same inertia that Synesius complained of, sixteen hundreds years ago. Let’s hope for better final outcome!
The ‘ Lack of Moral Fibre” (LMF) among the political class is absolutely staggering, as well as being completely baffling.
Even those from the ultimate ‘privileged’ background, such as Boris, display appalling outbursts of LMF, as do the rest of the Cabinet.
I was always taught ” not to mock the afflicted “, but this total lack of funk is so serious that I must make an.exception. C-19 has brutally exposed the British political edifice for the ‘worm eaten facade’ it really is. It will require a miracle to save it.
I used to think Bob Monkhouse wasn’t funny. But he did say.. ‘When I was young and I told people I wanted to be a comedian, they all laughed at me. They’re not laughing now.’ Genius.
Thought we needed some levity after that.
Television has a way of sucking the humour out of funny people. Normally by making them hosts of gameshows. Where comedy goes to die.
‘ … the average “wordsmith intellectual” was a person who did well at school and can’t understand why this success does not correlate into material success in later life …’ The breeding ground for fascists and terrorists.
‘The philosopher Robert Nozick believed that the average “wordsmith intellectual” was a person who did well at school and can’t understand why this success does not correlate into material success in later life, and thus opposes the capitalist system’.
Speaking for myself at least, I’d say rather that if you did well at academic subjects at school, it’s because you realise that there are many more interesting things in the world than the drudgery that might lead to ‘material success later in life’, so you actively avoid the latter and seek out the former. I’ve no problem at all with the capitalist system, so long as all the less ‘intellectual’ people do the tedious work of keeping it going.
‘… this would lead to a decline in quality…’
Is there any quality to decline?
“the average ‘wordsmith intellectual’ was a person who did well at school
and can’t understand why this success does not correlate into material
success in later life, and thus opposes the capitalist system”
That sounds like an excellent description of Karl Marx too. There he was scribbling away in the reading room at the British Museum bitching about the bourgeoisie while his wife worried about how they were going to pay this month’s rent.
Most of the great comedy once produced by the BBC from the Goon Show and Hancock through Monty Python, Fawlty Towers and Reggie Perrin to, more recently, The League of Gentlemen and The Fast Show were not political (or, indeed, politically correct by today’s insane standards). They were just very, very funny. Impossible to envisage their being produced today but at least much of it can still be seen on YouTube.
Even when sending up a specific individual comedians used to have some affection (?) for the person in question (Mike Yarwood with Harold and Heath) but still managed to nail them. The present bunch have nothing but hatred and contempt for anybody who does not conform to their ideals.
Never thought of any comedian having any political leanings until, say, the start of Ben Elton. Satire, initially, was very even handed (TW3 etc)
Difficult to say when I started thinking of individual comics as ‘left wing’. Looking back, there were ‘left-wing’ sentiments expressed in, say, Steptoe (Harold) and, of course, Till Death, but they lacked the viciousness of today’s bunch whilst still making a point.
Have never thought of any comic as ‘right wing’; even Geoff Norcott just sounds though he is speaking truth to the powerful i.e. the left wing extremists in charge of ‘comedy’ at the moment.
It has become increasingly evident that most of the comedy is provided by those on the Left.
Pity it’s so unfunny.
when left wing “comedians” found the could get embarrassed laughter by shouting out “tories” the thought the had found the golden goose. i think they are now becoming embarrassed themselves.they all repeat the same mantras.
There are hundreds of right wing comedians – they work as clickbait commentators delivering snark and vitriol against left wing targets – the pieties, (alleged) hypocrisies and around patheticness of the snowflake Corbynista Greta T supporting ‘woke’. Easy enough to take the act away from their columns and onto the stage – and just do a reverse image of, say, Frankie Boyle. Long, vicious pen portraits of what makes the ‘woke’ tick. I am guessing though they would miss the sanctuary of their “ciick and send’ echo chambers. But no question their schtick would translate, wouldn’t it?
I’m not sure you understand what comedy is. It is not snarky click bait. It is supposed to make people laugh. I think that is why people have a problem with BBC “comedy” because it is not funny.