
For a few days recently, a young American writer named Mana Afsari attained the status many writers secretly hope for — she wrote a serious article that went seriously viral among serious people. This was a little surprising, since many of those serious people were Left-of-centre writers, and the article was a largely sympathetic portrait of a bunch of Washington-based young men who love Trump. It’s also surprising because she calls these young men “Romantics”.
You’d think that throwing “Romantic” into this mix of signifiers would reinforce a lot of people’s darkest assumptions — that Trump’s nationalism really is fascist, if not Nazi, and that these young nerds are his ideologists. But they don’t appear this way because, despite their avowed pro-Trump sentiments, their so-called Romanticism does not come across as reactionary in the manner of “Romantic nationalism”, whose consummation was the Nazi bloodbath. Indeed their Romantic sentiments are not devoted to the American nation at all. They don’t express any overt patriotism or nationalism, at least as Afsari relates. They don’t chant “USA! USA!” What they do, most significantly, is yearn.
This is why Afsari calls them Romantics. They are, she writes, “young men looking for meaning, guidance, purpose and use, for a world where they could belong”. It’s clear from her conversations on these themes, with these yearning men, that their yearning is a pretty free-floating thing. It’s not primarily anchored in political or national objects; it’s more likely to be focused on things either more personal or more ethereal. But the yearning itself is primary. Its objects are secondary. It emerges both as a sidenote and as somehow paradigmatic when Afsari quotes one young man at a conservative debate party who stares into space and says: “I just want a girlfriend.” If there’s one thing those wanting young men want more than anything else, it is probably that. A girlfriend.
Aside from (and perhaps in sublimation of) their aching quest for heavenly girlfriends, what these men mainly yearn for, and actively seek out, is serious conversation. They stage debates. They have parties where they talk about philosophy and literature and history. They circulate articles. A striking feature of this intellectual engagement is how non-partisan it is. The articles they circulate are from Leftists as well as conservatives. The parties they hold, Afsari notes, are the most politically ecumenical parties she goes to in Washington. If their deepest impulses were truly political, truly nationalist, you’d expect more line-drawing, more conspiratorial hatred toward their partisan enemies, and fewer invitations for those enemies to join them for drinks and hors d’oeuvres and friendly conversation.
This does suggest a kind of Romanticism, but it’s not the scary, reactionary Romantic dreams of blood and soil that we associate with fascism, and it obviously isn’t the radical Romanticism that links Jean-Jacques Rousseau and the French Revolution and Karl Marx. It is, instead, the aesthetic and pedagogical Romanticism of Humboldt, Schiller, and Fichte, in which the yearning of young people for purpose and meaning is taken very seriously, but is channelled toward culture instead of politics. With their high-minded parties and cross-partisan guest-lists, Afsari’s conservative subjects resemble those German Romantics, for whom aesthetic culture was more important than politics.
Afsari’s portrait of young conservative men, then, is in fact a damning commentary on the state of American universities. Her account is filled with half-expressed bitterness about university education — both her subjects’ educations and her own. In their free time, her subjects are striving to create an experience of liberal education they were deprived of at university, because their professors had abandoned earnest aesthetic engagement with the texts and subject matter of their disciplines for the power-trip of subverting those things.
Afsari had sought a similar experience, also with spotty success. She says that, as an American undergraduate, she “turned away from the tyranny of the present political moment to the timeless classics” — that is, she studied Classics. But this turning-away was hard to achieve, because even her Classics tutors were obsessed with contemporary politics, constantly treating passing political flareups as more important than those so-called classic subjects and texts. She had to go to conservatives such as theologian James Orr, whom she met as an exchange student at Cambridge, and the poet Dana Gioia, to find professors “who took their disciplines seriously on their own terms”. She says: “The few conservative, apolitical or moderate professors I worked with on campus never asked me where I stood, but how I thought.” And Afsari wasn’t even a conservative. Young men like those she writes about — “mocked and marginalised by most of campus culture” — had it even worse than she did.
In this light, their efforts to create a demimonde of cultural discussion in Washington seem not just understandable but admirable. I found it inspiring to read of their earnest reading and meeting and conversing, their attempt to give themselves and each other what their professors had failed to give them. I thought, well, since universities are trying to kill the humanities, maybe the earnest and reverent efforts of guys like these will protect and revive them, keep them breathing until they can be welcomed back into future universities, where their value is recognised.
But I couldn’t help worrying about the other thing, the politics. It’s not just Trump. It’s a more abstract tendency those bookish young men exhibit, in which their admirable willingness to seek and recognise what really is great in art and history is directed back onto the present scene, where it takes the form of a personalised fandom for living figures like, well, Trump. Afsari presents this as an expression of their thwarted Romanticism. Deprived of figures of greatness from culture and history, they have fastened onto Trump as a role model, a hero figure, quasi-historical, quasi-literary.
Even described this way this doesn’t sound like a very healthy adaptation, but I think it’s even more pathological than this suggests. The Romantic disaffection of these young men is real. The people and institutions that were supposed to nourish their souls with great culture really have failed. But the more basic sources of their worship of Donald Trump are pretty banal, not very great at all. One of these sources is the internet. The other is Donald Trump.
The internet creates an illusion that impersonal things are not just personal but somehow intimate. Instead of generalised lore and occasional news stories of nosy people making needless trouble, for example, we now have “Karens” captured on video, their livid faces zoomable, available for exquisitely personal hating. Instead of reading “snippets” and “scraps” of half-reliable “gossip” about celebrities on the personality pages, we now follow those celebrities on Instagram and personally commend their own vacation photos, as if they know us and want to hear what we think. We join thousands of others in networked judgment of them. We find the YouTubers and TikTokers most agreeable to us, and we follow them so that they become more agreeable, their authority a deeper and more intimate part of our own makeup.
This is the psychological model by which otherwise intelligent and discerning young men purportedly seeking higher enlightenment would find themselves hero-worshipping a huckster businessman, a TV personality, a politician, a cranky old man who’s clearly beneath the soul-ideals they’ve been training themselves to seek and appreciate. Their Trump-worship is the opposite of Romantic, a machine output of personal media technology that has insinuated itself into their brains. It’s important to dwell on the historical strangeness and novelty of this form of political engagement. It much more closely resembles the identification that young men have with their famous and infamous online role models — Joe Rogan, Andrew Huberman, Jordan Peterson, Andrew Tate — than it does the more abstract political fandom that Ronald Reagan and John F. Kennedy inspired in earlier regimes of media technology.
On top of this, Trump’s own way of doing politics, notoriously “transactional” in its use of presidential power, is also transactional in a more personal way. He performs love toward those who show love for him. Trump’s classes of fans — working-class people, rural people, young men — say they feel seen and recognised by him. This is a potent political talent to have, the ability to make people feel as if, from your Olympian remove, you literally see them, recognise them in their specific predicaments and identities. This effect is both enabled and magnified on the internet — just consider Trump’s insulting and preening and perpetually complaining presence on social media, the fact that he can be personally followed and RP’d and @’d, the fact that you can look up the hateful people who attack him, and hate them like he hates them.
It’s surely unhealthy for politicians to be granted the status of Romantic heroes or charismatic best friends or emotional support animals by their supporters, but it’s hard to predict exactly how it will go bad. Since these emotional connections exist only in people’s minds and not in the external world, they’ll most reliably end as other unreal romances end, in disappointment, bitterness, and cynicism.
But the correction to this spiritual overinvestment will likely be more than mere personal disappointment, especially given the roaring and wrecking ambition with which the second Trump Administration has begun. In a provocative 2023 article in National Review, journalist Tanner Greer gives a revisionist take on the lessons of America’s response to 9/11 that casts a worrying light on the present relationship between Trump and the sort of manly yearning expressed by Afsari’s young men. Greer points to a certain complacent and self-serving consensus, among today’s “young Rightists”, about the lessons of America’s foreign-policy overreach after 9/11. This consensus says it was crusading neoconservativism, smuggling the utopian liberalism of Woodrow Wilson into the Pentagon, that led America to embrace the foolish goal of democratising not just Afghanistan and Iraq but the entire Middle East.
Greer argues that this view leaves out an important element of American politics after 9/11 — the sudden appeal of a sort of spiritualised manliness, and the belief that this dispensation should have more of a say in how an imperial power such as the US carries itself in the world. As Francis Fukuyama predicted, the End of History had become a time of boredom and suppressed frustration. America’s unchallenged hegemony had rendered manly projects and warlike virtues superfluous and suspicious, which was depriving our natural “spiritedness” its traditional outlet. And then the 9/11 attacks happened, and talk of manly things was suddenly everywhere. I was living in Washington then, working and socialising on the margins of the conservative think tank scene. I watched (sympathetically, I ruefully admit) that scene embrace this new, vitalist understanding of foreign policy — the idea that war wouldn’t just be good for Afghanistan and Iraq; it would be good for us. Greer’s sober lesson is that, since conservatives are once again wanting to see vitalist drives and manly virtues directly guiding the work of the nation, “it is not clear [that] we have learned any lessons from our experience in Iraq after all”.
The second Trump administration is already revealing the wisdom in Greer’s pessimism. As I write, Trump has just announced that America is going to “take a long-term ownership position” on Gaza, as if “Gaza” is a tradeable stock, or a golf course and subdivision complex in Florida. This is obviously unworkable. But triumphalism from Trump’s narrow victory, and the well-founded loathing of the progressive regime he replaced, have instilled in his supporters a sense of historical destiny: what he’s doing will work out, whatever it is, however shallowly and passingly he’s considered the practical questions himself.
This all makes recent days seem eerily like the ecstatic months between 9/11 and the invasion of Iraq, when the pleasure of those upwelling spirits merged with convictions about the manifest villainy of our adversaries to generate theories of American destiny that were disastrously innocent of practical insight. This is the problem with programmes of political action that are grand in scope but based on Romantic feelings. Those feelings are no substitute for knowledge and judgement. At some point, practical payment will come due for those manly feelings and the disruptive ambitions they inspire. That payment is typically steep.
This, ironically, is the historical lesson of Romanticism itself. The idea that the mass spiritual yearning unleashed in modernity could find its object in the imperfect world of real politics has been a repeated recipe for disappointment and disaster. The more real, more enduring and essential achievements of Romanticism have been cultural, which the young Trump supporters whom Mana Asfari got to know seemed halfway to comprehending when she spoke to them last year. They’ve probably forgotten that lesson for now, in this heady moment of brash Trumpian action, but they’ll have occasion to remember it later.
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SubscribeWhy? Because he broke through a suffocating system that seemed impossible to break through?
Precisely, and unforgivably he is an outsider, a heretic, an apostate, in short the Devil himself!
However let us rejoice “VAE VICTIS “!
Not the Devil himself, but surely the Antichrist at the very least. (Point of interest – do you realise that the Guardian automatically blocks any post containing the word “Antichrist”?)
Thank you and I’m not surprised, that is the World we have made.
However it is about to change, so the ‘woke’/‘traitors’ or whatever should ‘run for the hills’, “no quarter will be asked and NONE given”.
It might change for a while, but Trump will die, and there will be no one to replace him. It will all be “back to normal” soon enough.
Yes. All you can do is push the dial back a bit. It’s a bit like rugby with its backpasses and relentless waves of attack. At least if you get the ball you can kick it into touch and make the game restart from further back.
LOL…If things go back to “normal” , there will be no need for Trump or his replacement. He is needed because of how far from normal the Woke Progressives pushed things.
If you think “normal” is the world under Obama and Biden, you might be the problem.
He is indeed an apostate. He was a registered New York Democrat and knew all those people, Hillary, ‘Chuck’ Schumer etc. They enjoyed his money and support, they flew on his airline (as did the D.C. crowd, it was the Washington Shuttle). They condescended to laugh at his reality TV career and went on treating him as the fool when he ran for President. But, after switching parties, he destroyed not one but two big political dynasties, Bushes and Clintons. Then they remembered he was nothing but a jumped up oik from Queens and they turned to hating him. And, through their control of media, they got many others in America and abroad to hate him too.
In October I saw the staged picture of him, menacing in a long dark overcoat, his secret service protector in dark glasses behind him. I thought right away that he knew then he would win. Two other men came to my mind. Michael Corleone returning from Sicily to claim reclaim his power and his second wife. Kim Jon Un putting on the dark coat of his grandfather Kim Il Sung in preparation for the purge of his family and his courtiers.
Revenge!
Don’t the French say “Revenge is a dish best served cold”
Oui.
La vengeance est un plat qui se mange froid.
Ha! We always assumed it was the Sicilians.
I thought that was a Klingon proverb.
In Trump’s case, with ketchup and diet coke.
Perfect examples.
Criminals and despots.
Cultists all.
Yes, but leaders and objects of fascination. Why is that? Perhaps because they make the big stories.
‘Godfather 1&2’ are Michael Corleone’s story. No matter that he sells his soul, we follow the plot to the end.
Like Donald Trump he is the Protagonist.
I read Afsari’s article last week (in The Free Press) and i don’t think Feeney quite gets it right about those young men – and some women – that she wrote about.
In particular, their view of Trump was rather more grounded than he describes in this article. They viewed him relatively unhindered by msm bile as someone who just came along, overcame a whole raft of obstacles and made it through, and that’s what they also aspire to. A kind of role model then, but not a Romanticised one.
The original Romantic view itself could be seen as being most fully realised in Goethe’s The Sorrows of Young Werther which i read as a student back in the 70s. It seems, despite the passage of time and generations, there’s something which arises afresh in the human spirit, and Afsari captured it in her essay; it certainly struck a chord as Feeney notes, and rather than take a cynical view about Trump, he might’ve acknowledged how a catalyst doesn’t have to be pure, as long as it creates the conditions for the required chemical reaction.
It is not possible to have “a grounded” view of Trump. He is a lying seditious charlatan and this article nails it n
A grounded view might well be that’s he’s “a lying seditious charlatan” but that he’s a survivor, still standing despite attempts to assassinate him physically and politically – and now winning. That’s the view from the ground, and if it takes an article for you to make your claims against him, you’re relying on a crutch that he’s never needed.
That’s why those young men hold him in high regard.
I’ve never met a Trump supporter who worshipped him, and I’ve met plenty. I’m not young, but Trump supporters young and old are sick of the Left. We’re sick of Progressivism run amuck. We certainly do applaud someone who not only dares but also is succeeding in breaking their “edifice” to pieces. We hate the attack of Progressives against everything that is and ever has been good.
I too studied Classics, though in the ’80s at UT. It was a safe haven then and there from the woke contagion. “Faith, family, and freedom” is a slogan about things that really are good.
Samson was certainly flawed, but I smile every time I think about him bringing Dagon’s Temple down upon the Philistines.
Yes. I like Trump because I despise the woke (far-left) – or ‘progressivism run amok’ as you put it.
I suspect it’s the same for everyone who supports him.
In other words it’s primarily about what, and who, you are against than anything constructive.
Yeah, it would be very dumb to do that.. It also accurately describes the DNCs election strategy since 2016.
Trump’s story is much like the heroic stories of yore.
Prince lives dissolute life, but then finds he wants to do something more meaningful (Buddha – Trump goes from the p***y-grabbing host of the Apprentice to Presidential candidate)Leader survives deadly encounter and goes on to overcome his foes (Theodore Roosevelt, Achilles, Reagan)Leader is ejected from power and comes back to win (Napoleon, Churchill, Nixon)Leader is abused by the legal system and overcomes (M L King, Nelson Mandela)Trump will be remembered far longer than any other leader of the 21st Century (so far). Look around. He has become a transformational figure, inspiring peoples around the world, something Obama dearly wanted to be, and fools thought he was just for his skin color (see Nobel Peace Prize).
Some supporters even say he will never be thanked (by the currently oblivious) because they will never understand what we will have avoided: assuming that we do. But it does seem more likely now, though the UK still has to traverse the boundary to Common Sense.
It’s really a revolt against the activist model of government introduced by Clinton and Blair which has brought the world nothing but grief for thirty years. The central message of the Trump revolution is ‘Defend the borders, enforce the law and fix the f*king potholes! That’s what we pay you for.’
Another unHerd piece that doesn’t even serve as toilet roll in this digital world. It’s ok unherd. Really – it’s fine. That world is passing. The new one will likely be just as full of BS, but we won’t have to call a horse a unicorn, and that suits me just fine (+ Angela Merkel might live to see the implosion of Schengen and perhaps the EU – which would be a ‘bottle of Jura day’) Other than that life goes on. We worship God, not any flawed, sinful creature of this world. Faith means trying to live without idols. Being faithless means drowning in them. Who and what are your idols Matt F.?
Himself to judge by his work. I suspect a long career in academia.
This woman is Matt Feeney in drag https://www.youtube.com/shorts/HkrfAEurK1Y
Spoken like a true cultist.
You obviously don’t know me, and curiously it seems you didn’t read what I wrote. I am quite averse to a cult of personality and would have preferred someone else to effect the dismantling of the Left’s ziggurat, but there was no one else willing and able to do it.
The left /right is a divisive old Tory trope.
The issue is the narcissism and hypocrisy of the modern world.
Nothing wrong with being progressive in a fast changing world; the problem is when in the narcs delusional world they aspire to high ideals fail to live them, then blame “the unmentionables” who’s backs they are riding on, and turn a blind eye to illegal immigration that constrains real wage, or a blind eye to NAFTA which exported their jobs to low cost countries.
My basic problem with the notion of Progressivism is that it entails a hubris which thinks we can improve on everything. Some things are already good and need merely to be preserved. Going beyond them results in perversion. Most Progressives that I’m aware of have an inadequate appreciation for the good things we have inherited from the past.
Another notable mistake Progressives make is allowing their concern for the troubled to morph into foolishly allowing the most maladjusted and confused members of society to dictate the terms of society to the normal, healthy and prosperous.
I’m going to assume you’re talking about University of Texas of course.
Yes, indeed. Ah, the good ol’ days.
Just like most if not all leftist perspectives, it’s a fantasy world they live in. Not surprising people on the left lapped it up. They do not live in the real world.
Romantics, young and old, seem strangely attracted by disreputable reprobates of various grades. I have noticed it at uni, as well as outside when the beau monde fell over each other in courting the Kray twins. something like that is portrayed in the film Belle du jour, and is, arguably, in operation in causing the Stockholm syndrome.
As for Trump, one of his notable endeavours involved campaigning and spending money in order to bring about the execution of five innocent young people, an enterprise that was not unlike a KKK operation employing legal means. Is he still not fixated on Obama’s birth certificate? I suspect his anti-Black fervour is what commends him to bright young/old things of MAGA.
You might find it interesting to know that my wife is black. Reality is much more complex than simplistic stereotypes.
The thing is, he was the alternative. If Sanders had won the nomination in 2016 or 2020, we might have had a real election between two alternative visions of a post-globalist future. Instead, the establishment managed to block Sanders in a futile attempt to stand against the tide of history. Once Trump became the alternative to the establishment, the status quo, the near revolutionary mood of the country basically guaranteed that he or his movement would win eventually. Even if Trump got too old or even if the assassination had succeeded, it would still have happened. There’s simply too much momentum for some politician that dreams of being remembered as one of the great men of history anyway not to seize the moment and pick up the baton. The Democrats have locked in this dynamic that they can’t easily escape. Their constituencies are such that they can’t pivot towards more popular positions without alienating one or more of the core constituencies that they depend on for votes or the corporate overlords that they depend on for everything else. If Trump’s reforms prove to resonate with the people, and I suspect they will, or they reveal a high level of mismanagement and misconduct by the deep state, it will carve the Trumpist interpretation of the past eight years in stone and relegate the Democrats to obscurity because people will remember how far wrong they were and how much they were out of touch with the people. The last time this happened was 1933, when FDR swept into office with his New Deal reforms and those who stood in the way were punished for doing so. The Republicans enjoyed the control of congress for exactly four of the 61 years from 1933-1994. The Democrats worst case scenario is awfully bleak.
I think you’re right that our exasperation had reached “critical mass” so that the status quo would not hold much longer regardless.
Adolf and co didn’t refer to themselves as NAZIS. They used their correct name of National Socialists (as in National Socialist German Workers Party).
It’s been very effective rebranding by the left by expunging socialist from the name that’s flung about so much. It’s like political squid ink.
It emerges both as a sidenote and as somehow paradigmatic when Afsari quotes one young man at a conservative debate party who stares into space and says: “I just want a girlfriend.” I doubt a “conservative debate party” is the place to find one.
Wait, where would be better? A like minded, young woman there…a perfect start.
The one woman who will be there will be getting a lot of attention from about a thousand Trumpy-types.
Young blokes hate being constantly attacked by Globalists. Same as most older blokes. They also hate the glorification of every other sex and all the other genders. Add to that the rampant corruption and disgust held for Western families and achievements. So why the hell wouldn’t they see Trump as a hero?
Of a father….however flawed…..but at least not feminised…
Middle class point of view about middle class men. The working class, the blue collar men, see the world differently. Trump cares about them, that’s for sure. Not sure how much he cares about the middle class, managerial, professional types or the journos that write about them. They’re his support base and that’s all that counts. The dogs can bark all they like, but the caravan will keep moving on. We’re witnessing history in the making.
He doesn’t “care” about anyone.
Like the author said, he is a transactional person. I think Steve Bannon was the real Svengali, who told Donald that there are a lot of angry and ignored blue collars out there. Trump shovels coal and sells a Big Mac, The ignored cheer. He didn’t lecture them. But to say he cares about them Is a stretch. Let’s see what he does for them.
I have yet to meet ANY politician who ‘really’ CARES about anyone other than their good selves.
Perhaps you have been more fortunate?
That may be true, but how much do you think any politician actually cares? Certainly, the ones ruthless enough to become leaders.
I agree. I think you have to be at least a sociopath to qualify .
thanks for this information. I would suggest that it’s Oxford not Eton that will suffer There are plenty of universities in the anglosphere with very good profs tochose from. Oxford is downgrading itself!
Trump cares about Trump and Trump only. That much is clear. He does however have a talent for making people think he cares about them.
No Charles I haven’t. That was my point in responding h to Ian’s use of the word “care.”
Yr welcome.
Emperor Don does not give Shit about anybody not totally agreeing with him, or having a great deal of money OR they are genuflecting wildly at his feet. You so read this charlatan poorly.
I read it and I felt that they were searching for a bit of magic. It is perhaps an indictment of our society that it is in Trump that so many have found it.
How about the idea that Trump, eccentricities agreed to, has never been the wicked huckster cynic portrayed by those whose corruption is now being revealed.
What a tragically cancerous tale of woe, when so many find solace in Trumps quackery
Quackery….. Real quackery is net zero. Real quakery is open borders. Real quackery is hating one’s own culture. Real quackery is making up new laws to protect corruption. Real quackery is jailing people for face book posts. Real quackery is pretending people can chemically or surgically change their genders.
What a difference three years make. Back in 2022 the comments section of UH were full of despair in the face of what was seen as the inevitable victory of the Woke and the prospect of an illiberal authoritarianism. Optimists who argued that the pendulum would swing were pitied for their naïveté.
Instead we have seen first radical feminists then classical liberals and most recently young males rebel and the Woke – or whatever one is supposed to call them these days – forced first on to the back foot and now into an overdue period of introspection.
This still leaves, however, an educational system dominated by progressive orthodoxies. Only if this changes will we be safe from the pendulum swinging again in a few years. Let us enjoy this period of renewed freedom to debate ideas but also recognise we do not yet know if it is more than an Indian summer.
If for example you look at Eton, the omens are NOT good.
Addendum.
Apparently not a single Etonian managed to get into Oxford to read ‘Greats’ last year.
Reverse discrimination at its very worst from a University riddled with spite and envy.
O for the happy days of Porterhouse Blue.*
*Even if it ‘was’ in the “other place”.
Not true. 48 Etonians got into Oxford last year.
According to https://www.keystonetutors.com/news/oxbridge-which-schools-get-the-most-offers, there were 166 Oxbridge applicants from Eton, of which 48 were accepted.
It appears Eton was tenth in the pecking order, and predictably the swots at Winchester (among other schools) did rather better. But let’s not forget that most of the Eton applicants are probably for their sister institution of Kings College, Cambridge. If so, then by concentrating their choice, a lower acceptance rate is only to be expected just on account of the smaller number of available places, and there won’t be many Oxford applicants anyway.
Edit: What is or are “greats”? Not another name for that insidious PPE course that I gather has infected so many generations of students with the managed decline outlook whose results we see today?
Why are you commenting here if you don’t even know what Greats are?
Literae humaniores or Classics!
PPE is no more than ‘general studies’ a ‘bluffers’ degree if ever there was one.
Peel and Gladstone had Double Firsts in Greats and Maths but they were scholars. One reads Classics at Cambridge.
It was said the job of public schools was to turn businessmens’ sons into gentlmen. As a gentleman knows Latin and scholar and gentleman knows Greek and Latin what does it say for Eton?
What sort of “Authoritarianism” is the 2025 Project and Emperor Don slanting toward. There is virtually zero possibility that any of you guide the world to the next enlightenment.
I think I finally got it. illiberal authoritarianism Refers to when you go into your favorite liquor store and there a top a mound of Budweiser is a cardboard placard of a gay man celebrating Pride Month. Got it. I can see that the peril to your existence was so compelling that you and ten zillion other Menly Men screamed “Down With Budweiser”. Wew, boy am I glad I got that sorted!
I think you are understating the amount of progressive propaganda that goes on. For example, only about 3% of the UK population is black but from watching the advertisements and looking at government posters you would imagine it was closer to 50%, and of course nearly all marriages are mixed race, just like in real life.
And then every film you see, every crime show you watch has a smart, tough woman cop who can kick any bloke’s arse if she gets exasperated enough.
Can you see how annoying this blatant soviet-style propaganda is when it’s in your face, 24/7? Even decent people who have nothing against minorities, gays, or feminists get sick of being treated like children who need educating by ‘the grown-ups in the room’. So reducing this to a single pro-gay Budweiser ad is rather understating the case, as was no doubt your intention.
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Agree except that Woke could never win, as their aim was only destruction and death, they could only succeed.
Pluto has returned to the sign of Aquarius. American Revolution 2.0 baby!
“Blah, blah, blah, Trump, blah, blah, blah, Orange, blah blah Nazi, blah blah, blah, blah blah racist” There, summed it up.
Bingo
Trump inherited a property company and enlarged it. His money is based upon construction. Demolishing a building in a city, removing the rubble and building a new one requires vast practical skills.
Writers do not construct. They can write pretentious drivel and still earn money. I doubt whether they could construct sand castles.
“They do not toil, neither do they spin.”
You left out that he left a garish trail of stiffed contractors in his wake and bankrupted more than one project. But obviously the glean is still there. I am sure Trump’s Gaza Plaza will be different.
If this is so, one shudders to think of what sort of portentous driveller would write comments on websites
It’s ironic that this analysis largely pivots on a romantic yearning for a peaceful idillic world in which infinite economic growth can occur on a finite planet by which the realpolitiks of energy and material scarcity within the context of a growing human population can be forever consigned to the dustbin of time.
In the romantic view of the author, there is no need to develop the manly instincts to protect the tribe or conquer other tribes in order to appropriate the necessary land, energy and materials to sustain one’s tribe.
Instead we romantically feminise ourselves so that available global energy and material reserves are shared with a caring concern for others. But isn’t that feminised approach why China has cultivated an aggressive export strategy in order to dominate global production capacity.
In this respect, is the author secretly wishing that China can be romantically feminised too and then there is no need for vital manly instincts whatsoever.
Now that MAGA is a reality it’s about time we got on with MEGA: MAKE ENGLAND GREAT AGAIN.*
It’s only a matter of WILL!
*Apologies to you Barnett Formula spongers, but we can no longer afford you, and that includes you, parasitical little Wales.
I rather sympathise with your proud Englishness, Charles. But anyway, MUGA doesn’t give off the right vibes, does it?
Make Ulster Great Again?
A bit late for that given current developments I would have thought.
And MUKGA even worse!
You might as well not bother for the next 4 years, not with this shower of shite in government.
I agree the UK needs a dose of the same treatment – though I do say it’s the whole UK. The Scots, those perennially furious dependents on English money, need it even more than England does. The reason they’re angrier than the English is that Scotland is even further from London than England is, and the further you get from London, the less Westminster gives a shit about you.
The remedy for Scotland is the same as it is for England and Wales: destruction of the elite consensus politics that permits a decrepit, decadent and deluded political class to run Britain through a monocultural clerisy that remains in power by throwing enough bread and circuses ever few years to gain a mandate on the basis of votes from only 25% of the electorate.
Patronising
Well these hopeless romantics will have to learn to flash the nazi salute before enjoying the arts.
Emperor Trump says he will appoint himself chair of Kennedy Center. Can’t wait to he pardons Kanye and schedules him every other night.
You blow harder than a bag full of butt holes. Smells about he same too.
Nothing worthy of comment
Trump voters – voters, let’s give them their proper name, are way more pragmatic than your article seeks to analyse. Most people want a government that works properly and is fair and honest. Sometimes it is as simple as that.
Lordy that was long.
What an article. Trump bashing is boring and where one found apolitical professors in the US universities is beyond my knowledge. So far I know there were mostly if not all lefties.
This is the kind of article where I read a few overly long paragraphs and then skip happily to the comments. At least they rarely let me down.
Well guess what, I read the headline and NOT A WORD of the article. I skipped directly to the comments. Just out of curiosity, I may read some of it! Ha ha!! Do you think I should waste any time doing that?
Yes. That’s 8 minutes I’ll never get back. I had to re-read some of the sentences before giving up & skipping to comments. My takeaway from what I’ve read is a dismay about the assumption that Trump’s voters have no agency.
Such pseudo-intellectual rubbage. Sitting here across the Pond, I never fail to be impressed by the pessimism and dripping cynicism of Europe and Little Europe, nee The U.K.. If you would do something, perhaps, to throw off the yoke like we have here in the States – the final result yet to be determined – maybe you could gin up some optimism about your future. I’ll give you a leg up: begin by dealing with the muslim invasion of Britain. Stand up for your daughters and make an end to the rape gangs. It’ll make you finally feel like men.
I believe all western democracies are ultimately on a Darwinian journey. There is an underlying social evolution, potentially revolution, taking place. Obsession with a failed and increasingly irrelevant model of Right v Left, Republican v Democrat, Conservative v Labour is missing what is actually going on. The validation of Government is good effective government and the people are beginning to be willing look outside the current models to find it. If the democratic model wants to survive it needs a significant overhaul.
“…Matt Feeney is a writer based in California…”
Clueless article. Trump embodies courage, perseverance, audacity and fighting back against the odds. All noble qualities despite his other failings and ones not be found elsewhere in a spineless political class. He is delivering on his election promises. Only a pedant takes Trump’s pronouncements literally, he is a showman that uses theater to open up discussions and invite new solutions. Politics has always been theater and ironically there is more truth – with respect to actual resolve – in Trumps determination to get results than many of of his feckless predecessors.
I thought this was both a silly and nasty little piece of political invective – with its references to fascism, “Trump voters”, the aligning Peterson with Tate and the patronising nonsense about the supposed misguided romanticism of young Trump supporters, apparently tragically destined for huge disappointment. It tells me Democratic “ Progressives”( sic) haven’t a clue how, after four years of Biden / Harris corrupt woke nonsense, just how despised they are by well grounded realists, who have not fallen for the delusions of the Left and thankfully comprised the majority of those voting in the recent Presidential election.
I too have noticed that they have learned nothing. Most seem to not even realize that their perverse vision of utopia has been rejected and that they are no longer in charge.
They just blather on about 35 felonies, bribing porn actresses, nazi, stupid, crook, etc. Thy do not seem to notice that no one believes them anymore, but they just go on and on demanding compromise and making threats…
I think a significant proportion of Trump’s appeal – not all of it by any means but enough to be an important component – is just the implied promise to get the government off people’s lawns.
This implication comes from Elon Musk’s DOGE agenda and the various attacks on identity politics, cultural relativism, and the associated tyranny of the leftwing consensus that infests government, the media, corporations etc. Most people have lost patience with this low-grade intellectual sewage and are willing to vote for anyone that promises to get rid of it.
So for many voters, they don’t care what else Trump stands for and they don’t care why, specifically, he wants to destroy the existing consensus. They want it gone, he promised to get it gone, they voted for him because of that promise. And on day one Trump signed a series of executive orders that were the beginning of keeping that promise.
Or in other words, the explanation isn’t as complicated as this article makes out.
Poor Matt. He still doesn’t get the appeal of Trump, which is less about the man and more about the serial failures of the professional ruling class in DC. Were they even marginally competent, there would be no room for Trump and he would not have had reason to run.
I’ve yet to see anyone worship the man. They do appreciate that he neither dismisses them as irrelevant or ignores them altogether. When they see what DOGE is doing, their suspicions are confirmed and when they hear establishment DC howl over the findings, that is further evidence of being right.
You seriously think Trump will invest in Gaza? Not a chance. He’s just floating ideas.
He’s imprudent in the extreme, in public comments. But he just loves to stir the pot. That kind of “What if…?” has served him well.
“Huckster”? You have watched the Biden family?
Well here Is my 2 cents worth
Firstly young men are NOT looking for a girlfriend
They are hoping to find a Mum in a girl friend
But as to the state of matters in The USA and to some degree amongst
Western Neo Liberal Democracies
I offer my conclusions
There is a cult of ignorance in The USA ( and the West )
And there always has been
The strain of Anti Intellectualism
Has been a constant thread running through it’s political and
Cultural fields
All nurtured by the false notion that
Democracy means that
Best expressed as
‘ My ignorance is just as good as your Knowledge ‘
And to cap it all Modern Neo Liberal Capitalism has merely accelerated the age old adage of
‘ In the Long term it’s the Bad Money that drives out the Good money ‘
So you put a lipstick on the old pig of “Trump voters aren’t as smart as we Progressives”.
Ho hum….next
Our society is unraveling and our whole world is in a tailspin. This is just not working at all. Only AI is powerful enough to intervene and save us. Watch the last 3 minutes of this video by AI researcher David Shapiro. This is the game changer for all of humanity already upon us that will sweep the world and change everything. Our old reality is already gone and a new reality is emerging in real time before our very eyes.
13:55 “We are very much in an age of exponentials right now.”
14:49 “Math is basically solved. It’s really important to remember how central math is to literally all other science.”
“Fast Takeoff is Here! – 11 Exponential Graphs Prove It!” (17 min)
David Shapiro. Feb 9, 2025
https://youtu.be/2zuiEvF81JY?si=4Ijz6U2hN4v4YxFg
Interesting, and not the inflammatory take I thought–judging from its title–the piece would be. I’ve been a Holderlin Romantic and fan of the Bible book Lamentations since my twenties; these writers soar and cry out, making my life “bigger” than what it usually appears to me. Trump is no philosopher–Reagan beat him on this score; however, the is both down-to-earth (YMCA music by Village People) and a Russian extravagant, complete with gold wall furnishings and furniture. He reaches us more than we reach him. Trump loves peace, but he also loves to build, which in a way is aggressive towards the existing view. He wants to be remembered as “great”, aware that the Presidents with this distinction were the “expanders” of the US dominion. He has children for whom he would leave the general population’s approval of his work, outlook, and life. He likes to “deal”, strike a bargain, and come out ahead in transactions. This causes initial statements and positions taken to be over-the-top, extreme, seemingly impossible to achieve. But such are mere stones thrown into the water to see where the ripples go. Final, and acceptable-to-him outcomes are whittled back in their intensity and effect… and yet, he accomplishes MORE than anyone else who has similarly tried previously.
“’Romantic nationalism”, whose consummation was the Nazi bloodbath.'”
The Nazi bloodbath was not the consummation of Romantic nationalism. It was the consummation of human evil working in the guise of nationalism.
“But I couldn’t help worrying about the other thing, the politics.”
Don’t worry about the politics of these young men, Matt. Worry instead about two facts: 1) you’re a writer writing on contemporary America; 2) you’re almost breathtakingly disconnected from what’s now happening in America.
Your inability to get a sense the young men Asfari subtly portrayed in her piece—it’s amazing really.
Worry about that.
I take it this man sees himself as a hard-boiled realist able to pierce the veils of ignorance that bind and delude others. He has another think coming.
The most compelling bit of this piece is the title – a bit of click-bait I took. There’s a constant and consistent framing taken by authors like this fellow; it’s mildly sneering along with what seems a hoped for disaster.
I’ve a personal peeve with any writer that insists on using the interjection “well”. ( – to seek and recognise what really is great in art and history is directed back onto the present scene, where it takes the form of a personalised fandom for living figures like, well, Trump.)
This is also quite a leap, no?
Says who aside from sorts like himself. He confidently assesses his insight. ( – young Trump supporters whom Mana Asfari got to know seemed halfway to comprehending when she spoke to them last year.)
One seldom finds writing on the left that doesn’t include some form of ad hominum screeching, and here’s another specimen – tiresome, tedious, – a churlish bore!
Bizarre and ludicrous article. I have seen a rise in Trump hit piece articles over the last 2 weeks. I have to wonder if the authors really believe what they are writing or just shills churning out their pap. I have to say they are resistance shills and these are coordinated articles by the Elite progressives that are funding them. The reason I say this is that the author is wondering why people would romanticize a huckster. The only hucksters that have been proven to be hucksters are Biden/Obama and the Dems for the last 16 years. They have bullshited the American populace while making themselves, and their family and friends richer in the process. USAID is only the tip of the iceberg and it is going to get much, much worse.
Mr. Feeney has to be aware of this, yet we get this tripe from him. Does he truly believe Biden was not a huckster? That would be more honest than this sad, TDS hit piece in the disguise of “journalism”. No wonder more folks worldwide distrust the MSM and shills like Mr. Feeney. His handlers stand to lose a LOT of money, prestige, access, and influence and they are pulling out the stops to stem the tide. Last time I read anything from this shill.
Matt Sweeny is dumpster diving trying to find trash to talk about.
What a pathetic little puke.
I’m so over these idiots.
He out to just chop off his d**k and call it a day.
You’ve gotta love a hit piece aimed at a radically diverse group of millions of people from a writer who (seemingly) lacks any actual contact with said people.
This article doesn’t work. Sometimes the writing is incoherent as when it speaks of the ‘source of worship’. I think it means ‘object of worship’ but can’t be sure. Other times the author appears to be willfully deluded: nobody I know ‘worships’ Trump, but many support some (many?) of his undertakings in the first three weeks, and a few even voted for him despite his failings. Some of them are cheering his perceived successes though they would never vote for him. As for ‘manly’ virtues, many of them think Trump is less likely to get them involved in foreign wars, and while none I know are shopping for a wife, a few might feel that feminism has been so destructive of male/female relations that some sympathy exists for young men who want a girlfriend (not a trophy, as implied in the article) but consider engagement unsafe (just like race-sensitivity training has produced a measurable reticence on the part of some people to engage with people of colour) since almost any comment can be defined as a microagression.
The key points here are a world view based on “feeling” rather than analysis, on rugged individualism (with a solid middle class or above base to start from) rather than a shared project of keeping society from tearing itself apart. I’m guessing that they read Ayn Rand?
Quote: “This is why Afsari calls them Romantics. They are, she writes, “young men looking for meaning, guidance, purpose and use, for a world where they could belong”.
As Ross Douthat recently opined, they are unlikely to find it in Washington, D.C.. If anywhere, it will be in the culture at large. That’s why propose that they look for it here: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U0C9HKW
Ugh this was tedious and painful to read. The condescending attitude towards the people he’s discussing is borderline offensive to me. The line about the man who ‘wanted a girlfriend’ is exactly the sort of demeaning comment that, were it said about a woman, black, or any other non-white person, would be grounds for cancellation and the usual tarring and feathering of whoever said it by the screeching activists and their media enablers. He completely ignores the fact that this dynamic of disillusioned young men is a direct result of the policies of the left, and indeed the culmination of Wilsonian liberal utopianism. The lack of meaning, direction, and a sense of purpose and belonging is a direct result of the destruction of culture, and there is nothing more directly responsible for that than the globalist utopian philosophies that were started by sheltered academics like Woodrow Wilson, who the author manages to actually mention, and extended to its logical endpoint in modern notions of social justice. The logic that historically oppressed groups deserve favorable treatment is bound to create a group that doesn’t fit into any of the favored groups and they are bound to resent the fact that everyone else gets favorable treatment and bound to bind together politically and act collectively for their collective interests for the same reason the oppressed minorities did and do.
The worst part is that there never has been broad support for that sort of utopian internationalism. It was adopted by the aristocratic class out of economic greed and a desire to operate independently of law and government oversight. It was a farcical tool for exploitation and enabled a new aristocrat class to emerge, the international capitalist davos man. Western nations went to a great deal of trouble and spilled considerable blood to be rid of feudal nobility only to enable something even worse and even less accountable to emerge. In a world that has no real government, a corporation or individual that owns and controls assets and businesses around the world in multiple nations doesn’t have to answer to any government anywhere. That is the fundamental problem with free trade and open borders. Human beings cannot be trusted not to exploit one another for personal gain. Certainly, not all of them will, but some will, and that necessitates they be constrained from doing so by law and government. We need tariffs, borders, immigration laws, and the like for the same reason we need government in the first place; to maintain civil order through laws and standards that bind and constrain how citizens behave towards one another. The utopian internationalism of Wilson was in effect hijacked by multinational corporations and the super rich to create the ‘too big to fail’ institutions we have today and put them beyond the reach of the people. Fortunately, the people are not so easily thwarted, and the elites are something less than competent.
The author spends several paragraphs detailing how the young men in question are rejecting the philosophical paradigm that underpins globalism and searching for others. They sound like reasonable people doing what intelligent people do when presented with nonsense that seems wrong, unfair, or disadvantageous to them. They seek alternatives, alternative philosophies, alternative media, and alternative leadership. We have ample evidence in multiple nations that this is happening, yet this author can’t see past his dislike of Trump personally, a dislike I happen to share, to understand the underlying causes of the Trump phenomenon. Trump is the first and only alternative to status quo globalism that has come along. Other alternatives like the Sanders movement, which was similarly driven by disillusioned young men, have existed but were successfully blocked from power by the establishment. Trump simply succeeded. In an ideal world, we would have had Trump vs. Sanders in either 2016 or 2020 and we would then have had the real election that would allow the people to decide which of two alternative futures they preferred. Instead, the establishment tried to hold onto the decaying remains of utopian globalism and they were predictably defeated. It came earlier than I personally expected and in a different form than what I would prefer, but I knew it would come eventually. Trump is an unfortunate result of elite failures and political disaffection, not the cause.
The sad thing is that utopian globalism is just as ‘romantic’ as all utopian philosophies past and present. The international communist movement that sought to unite the proletariat around the world against the bourgeoisie was even more aspirational, ambitious, and impossible than the most insane rantings of Mussolini, Franco, and even Hitler. They at least understood how to exploit human tribalism and get people working together towards a common purpose. The communists simply tried to wish it away. As many deaths as Hitler and Mussolini caused, as much as they were monsters, they don’t come anywhere close to the number of lives lost to Stalin and Mao. The liberal utopian globalist world is simply the same international collectivism without the excuse of class warfare or the appeal to universal equality. It is a romantic vision if ever there was one. Some people are so romantic they haven’t grasped the fundamental truth that there is no such thing as utopia in this life. They’re still hoping for some optimistic techno paradise like Star Trek. All that’s changed is they’re taking the low road instead of the high road. In reality, nobody is reaching utopia no matter what road they take. One hopes that in their search of history, art, literature, and philosophy these disaffected young men will come to realize that as well. There is, after all, a good reason why romanticism is associated with youth and age with cynicism. Romanticism and cynicism are practically siblings, as the failure to realize the romantic aspirations of youth leads to the sensible cynicism and disillusionment that comes with age. As our dreams fail to materialize and the world keeps piling on the misery, we realize that we never had it so good as when we were blissfully ignorant. Only the good die young.
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of these young men is real. The people and institutions that were supposed to nourish their souls with great culture really have failed.
No, they have been destroyed by university communist tosspots and the mindless witless media.
They want a bird for their arm, but look at the vacant houris they meet at uni, and are repelled by their total lack of moral character.
Especially the ones with Hamas flags, they judge them as nothing more than bedwarmers for terrorists.
These slags are the sort who are attracted to murders and child killers on death row, would anyone want yhem with that sort of pedigree.