Expect bloodshed. The opening salvos have been fired between India and China in Asia’s bizarre Historikerstreit. Its instigators, strangely enough, are two British historians — Peter Frankopan and William Dalrymple — who substantively agree with one another. Not that this matters terribly much. For history, it seems, is too important to be left to the historians.
Nationalists, for whom history is no more than an accoutrement of righteous vindication, have annexed their arguments. So it is that a fairly recondite debate turning on economies of old has acquired new geopolitical significance. Accordingly, a crude heuristic now has it that Frankopan is on Team China, and Dalrymple on Team India.
But they are, truth be told, on the same team. The presiding impulse of their respective books, The Silk Roads and The Golden Road — both on global trade — is to vanquish that old foe, seriously hobbled but not quite dead: Eurocentrism. Hence the emphasis on cultural diffusion, seen in the popular imagination as a set of Western bequests to a benighted East. Here, by contrast, the aim is to show that traffic was in great measure, though by no means entirely, in the reverse direction.
There is, of course, a difference in emphasis in their accounts — Frankopan being a Byzantinist, and Dalrymple an Indianist. Yet the world-historical objective is the same — guided, one surmises, by their similar intellectual formation. Born to a Dalmatian father and Swedish mother, Frankopan was fired by the lectures of Jonathan Shepard, a historian of the Byzantine world at Cambridge. His debut was an account of The First Crusade that swapped Latin for Greek sources, reversing the conventional gaze. Dalrymple, a Highland aristocrat, also passed through Cambridge before cutting his teeth as a travel writer, traversing the same subcontinental lands as some of his forebears. For both, then, there were strong biographical imperatives that militated against insularity. With such backgrounds, it is hardly surprising that they didn’t turn out to be little Englanders.
This habit of mind was aligned to a historical sensibility. Born in 1965 and 1971, respectively, Dalrymple and Frankopan belong to the same cohort, coming of age as writers at a time when the British reading public was happily devouring 1,000-page tomes on, say, the French and Russian Revolutions. It was an age when doorstopper histories sold like air-fryer cookbooks, which is to say an age that lent itself easily to public-facing history. Happily, it was also an age relatively innocent of precarious contracts and pretentious postmodernism; pecuniary considerations and the stylistic dictates of the academy would prevent many from scaling the heights of public intellectualdom in a later age. Dalrymple took up the cudgels for popular history with a quartet on the Raj — a darker riff on Jan Morris’s trilogy — before moving backwards to Indian antiquity. Frankopan, by contrast, moved in both directions, encompassing the longue durée in histories of the Silk Road and climate change.
Billed as a “new history of the world”, no less, The Silk Roads offered a highly idiosyncratic take on global history, giving us the view from the Stans, as it were. Halford Mackinder called the region the world’s “heartland”, control over which is the sine qua non of global hegemony — a provocative argument when it was made in 1904, though these days seen as common wisdom in think-tank circles. Frankopan’s sweep — taking in the Achaemenids and Abbasids, commending the Persians and Mongols, depicted here not as barbaric cretins but as begetters of a sophisticated civilisation — no doubt had a touch of Whiggishness to it, confirming Herbert Butterfield’s wry observation that historical compression often tends towards upbeatness. One can see why Beijing’s mandarins fell head over heels with it. Trade gets top billing in these pages. War and prejudice — between Arab and Jew, Christian and Muslim — often recede from view. This was the kind of feel-good story the architects of a new Silk Road could get behind.
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SubscribeWhile this is certainly one of Anil’s better articles, what should be remembered about Indian history is that it was subjected to an assault by Marxist ” historians” like DN Jha and RS Sharma, to some extent also Romila Thapar.
What Dalyrymple writes is in the same vein as the pre- Marxist scholars like Dr RC Mazumdar, HC Roychowdhury, KAN Shastri, AL Basham and Vincent Smith. William has merely put old wine in new bottles.
And why not? The artificial constructs of Western Marxism were certainly not the narrative methodology to have been used to understand the oldest civilizations still existing in the world.
As is typical of Marxist historiography, the USP is usually to bash anyone not spouting theories and jargon to suit their mould.
The attacks on national civilizational identity are typical of this author’s dismissive approach to any writing which doesn’t stick to globalist Leftist paradigms.
” Colonial” power seems to be a pejorative usage common to this strand.
Colonialism was a complex phenomenon and to assume it was uniformly evil is another trap the author falls into.
The theme of the article is thus a sweeping generalization and again a tendency to cherry- pick trends without stating the entire context.
The geo- politics cited by Anil are ridiculously contorted. Maldives is part of a Pakistan- Turkey Islamist circuit. And a few sundry investments into Africa are certainly not colonial high- noons of any kind.
If the author had stuck to analysing why China and India have improved their relative positions in the 21st century, it might have been more convincing an article.
To explain the modern world I recommend the late David S Landes book, The Wealth and Poverty of Nations, published in 1998. It was part of the great divergence debate among historians.
Essentially, DSL distinguishes between the what it should have been version of history to the what actually happened version.
History is, indeed, what actually happened, not if only it had been otherwise.
Really good to see the thesis of these books being challenged. They reek of modern national and identity politics.
The euro centric writings of traditional white authors of the past were also very biased, there are different interpretations of history today, also with valid points of view, the spectrum widens. It only reeks for the closed minded.
They also have their own biases and their favoured recipients who approve of them, none of us are free from bias or favourite readers. Both India and China, like those who went before operate as racist, nationalist, colonialising nations why is anyone surprised? It merely serves to undermine their capacity for meaningful critique of the rest of us.
The reason why the British were able to learn Persian and Sanskrit because they knew Greek. Consequently they discovered the connection between the Indo European Languages
Indo-European languages – Wikipedia
The use of Zero and decimals were acknowledged to come from India without which modern mathematics,physics and engineering would not be possible. The reason The Royal Asiatic Society was formed was because Britons respected the cultures, languages, religions and traditions of Asia.
Marx was a German Jew who moved to Britin in the 1840s and lived in London. He mixed with clerks. He shows no knowledge of British history pre 1840s, especially the countryside, literature, The Sea , evolution of Laws and Parliament, The Industrial and Agricultural Revolutions.
Malcom Muggeridge said Marxism is an urban religion for people with a grudge against their fellow man and civilisation. Name anything beautiful created by Marxism ?
Britain founded many institutes to train Britons to work in India and Indians.
East India Company College – Wikipedia
Britain set up the Royal Engineering College
Royal Indian Engineering College – Wikipedia
Britain set up the first medical college in Bengal in 1835.
Medical College & Hospital, Kolkata – Wikipedia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ardaseer_Cursetjee
Cursetjee was made a FRS in 1841.
Indians were attending Cambridge University from the 1890s- Prince Ranji who played cricket for Cambridge, Sussex and England, one of the first sporting celebrities.
Some of the Engineering Collges founded by Britain In India.
College of Engineering, Guindy, Chennai (1794)
Indian Institute of Technology, Roorkee (1847)
College of Engineering, Pune (1854)
Indian Institute of Engineering Science and Technology, Shibpur (1856)
University Of Mumbai, Mumbai (1857)
National Institute of Technology, Patna (1886
Veermata Jijabai Technological Institute, Mumbai (1887)
Faculty of Technology and Engineering, Maharaja Sayajirao University, Vadodara (1890)
Jadavpur University, Kolkata (1906)
Indian Institute of Science, Bengaluru (1909)
University Visvesvaraya College Of Engineering, Bengaluru (1917)
Indian Institute of Technology (BHU) Varanasi (1919)
Government College of Engineering and Leather Technology (GCELT), Kolkata (1919)
Harcourt Butler Technological Institute, Kanpur (1920)
PEC University of Technology Chandigarh (1921) Indian School of Mines, Dhanbad (1926)
University College of Engineering, Osmania University, Hyderabad (1929)
Institute of Chemical Technology, Mumbai (1933)
IIEST, Shibpur – Wikipedia
University College of Engineering, Osmania University – Wikipedia
The Indian Army was separate from the British pre 1919 but after this date attended Sandhurst
and in 1932 The IMA was founded.
Indian Military Academy – Wikipedia
Britain transferred knowledge and expertise to India. Knowledge is power. Britain therefore transferred power to India.
The subject of Dalyrymple’s book is not British India. It is ancient India. Indian civilization far predates that of Greece. The Indus Valley civilisation was advanced in every respect and akin to ancient Mesopotamia.
Subsequently Indic civilization birthed Buddhism and also spread to South East Asia.
It is Islamic conquest which set back the more positive aspects of Indic civilization due to the violence and lack of serious assimilation.
The muslim invasions destroyed Hindic/ Buddhist civilisation which the earliest goes back 5300 years. Though in southern India civilisation may go back 7 to 8000 years.
Indus Valley Civilisation – Wikipedia
The destruction of the Naland University in about 1200 AD and other monasteries in Northern India
Nalanda mahavihara – Wikipedia
The destruction of Nalanda University is one of the greatest losses of knowledge in the history of the World.
Where does Dalrymple mention the Muslim destruction of temples, monasteries and knowledge ?
He doesn’t. And most post 1947 Indian as well as Western historians other than those I mentioned whitewash it too.
On the whole however this is a good book by Dalyrymple.
Better than the usual anti-Modi rant from Anil.
Jaishankar is effectively repositioning India as a global power but, as indicated, overdoes the anti-colonial stuff. Having influence in two tiny island states, the Maldives and Mauritius, is the least India can expect especially with the Hindu dominance in the latter. A better policy would be claiming the Chagos islands which are closer to India than Mauritius but that would be to upend the international rules order of the UK and Indian FOs so beloved by surrenderists like Sir Simon McDonald.
Most Indians nowadays have very little recollection of Empire. The generation born under British rule is still very nostalgic in some areas about it. But most of them are too old or have passed on.
You have to realise that even my generation in India-brought up somewhat in an Anglicised environment is fading out.
It’s America which wins the younger minds, and thus it’s no surprise that the popular mood is very anti-colonial.
Anil fails to mention that the most turgid anti- colonial rants now are not from the Right of Indian politics but the Congress Left entente with the likes of Shashi Tharoor who are it’s mascots.
To put it a better way all history is temporary.
It looks, from current Politics, that Science is just a point of view as well. 🙂
I so hope you are wrong !
Ahh, the dread fallacies of Eurocentric history! Here’s to further revelations as to how cars, planes, trains, computers, vaccines, modern healthcare and modern agriculture, not to mention women’s rights, were all invented elsewhere.
As a student of global history for the last 20 years, I am a great fan of Frankopan and, recently, having been given the Golden Road for Christmas, of Dalrymple too. Anna Bramwell clearly hates it, but it is a great step forward to find these two books tackling the broader canvas of history and not stuck in the narrow focus and departmental silos of traditional academia.
With all due respect to David S Landes, the progress in the understanding and dissemination of global history over the last 20 years, due I guess to the internet and to scientific advances (eg DNA and ice core analysis), has been phenomenal.
Most students of history (in the UK at least) were brought up on Ur, Rome, The Tudors and WWII (almost certainly not in that order). Writers like Frankopan and Dalrymple give a much needed perspective, as well as widening a traditional historical view – focussed on leaders and armies – by considering, for example, the impact that climate has undoubtedly had.
All power to this fast growing field.
Everyone knows that the East was rich; – spices, jewels, silks,- and the west wasnt: timber, ,seal oil and amber. Pointless discussion about two non historians.
I simply don’t agree. The Europeans had more advanced technology – after all they got themselves to India to buy all this stuff rather than the other way round. And the Indians sold it to us. If they’d been better at marketing it and obtained better prices they might have done better. But they didn’t. The industrial revolution happened in the UK first for a reason.
Yes, for a reason. According to a new analysis, the industrial revolution happened in east England because this region was uniquely suited for running overshot waterwheels 24/7 all year round due to the combination of suitable topography and a steady and generous water supply. The technology applied there was imported from mainly from Italy, but historically the leader in hydraulic engineering was probably China
The Industrial Revolution started in Shropshire in the 18th Century. Is anyone else getting tired of endless historical revisionism?
The real push was the conquest by the Turks of Constantinople in 1453. It was the end of the silk road so the Portuguese took to the sea. Britain in many ways was the last European nation to explore the World but extensive experience of fishing in the N Atlantic produced tougher seaman and more practical ships, smaller , easier to handle, repair and manoeuvre.
I like some of this journalist’s articles but I found this one incredibly dull. Why is it the main leader and also why should readers of UnHerd be interested in India and China and their historical roles, and some British historians or whatever this is about? This may be of interest to the journalist but I don’t think it is of particular interest to British readers.
We are many non-brits reading Unherd.