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A world-champion darts player writes home…
Dear Mother and Father,
Shame you can’t congratulate me. I am, I know, a disappointment to you. You hoped I would follow in your footsteps and become a literary critic or expositor of abstruse texts. Instead, I stand before you as winner of the 2025 Paddy Power World Darts Championship, for which the prize-money far exceeds all you’ve earned from the 22 books you’ve written together over the course of 40 years. I don’t gloat. I seek only your approval and your love. Millions of adoring fans around the world applaud my skills and call my name — Frederick “Fatboy” De Selincourt — but you hang your heads in shame every time I enter the arena to Morrisey’s You’re the One for Me, Fatty. I have dedicated every nine dart finish I’ve ever thrown to you, yet still you disown me.
Where did it all go wrong, you ask. Well, the answer to that is straightforward. It went wrong when you, daddy, saw me plucking feathers from my cot pillow and throwing them at mummy. “I’ll buy the boy a set of plastic darts,” you said in an unlikely fit of populism. I remain surprised that you even knew where to buy darts from. Didn’t you once say you only ever shopped at Foyles. “And don’t forget a dartboard,” mummy said, out of concern for the furniture.
Do I need to remind you that I threw my first maximum from the pram and regularly hit nine dart finishes before I could walk. “One hundred and eighty!” were the first words I ever spoke. You could have stopped me then but you were too busy touring Third World universities for the British Council. Faute de mieux, I became a darts player on the altar of your careers. When I told you I was to be apprenticed to Jocky Wilson you raised no objection, thinking horse riding — while not exactly the career you’d wanted for me — at least opened doors to a better class of person than I was ever likely encounter in the Ally Pally.
For 18 months I sharpened Jocky’s arrows and fluffed his feathers and for a further 18 sat at the oche to watch where he placed his feet as he threw. I know what you’re thinking, but had those been Nureyev’s feet you’d have applauded the conscientiousness of my studies. But what’s the difference? Is not excellence excellence? When people refuse to call darts a sport or even an art because — they say — it amounts to no more than chucking a primitive missile at a narrow strip of sisal fibre, I remind them of Jane Austen’s description of writing as painting with a fine brush on two inches of ivory. How often did you read me that passage when I was growing up! How well I remember you arguing with each other about its applicability to Jane Austen’s prose at its best. You scoffed at me when I said I believed Jane Austen played darts with her sister Cassandra in the garden of the Austen house at Chawton. But could she have described those two inches of ivory had she not been familiar with that narrow band of dartboard in which I earn my living? How many maximums did Jane Austen throw? Which was her double of choice? Those are discussions for another time.
Let’s not argue about nomenclature — sport or art or neither, darts enable the human spirit to achieve greatness not by spraying grand gestures around but by fixing on a fine detail of existence and concentrating all its fire power there. Jane Austen or Tolstoy? Your preference was always for Jane Austen. As is mine. You can keep your Olympics and your Test Matches and your Cup Finals. Give me darts at the Alexandra Palace any time. Precisely because of their smallness, those tiny treble bands on a dartboard are more challenging to creativity than a wicket, a goalmouth or a finishing line. Or the Battle of Borodino, come to that.
You have commented over the years on my adiposity. How can a pair of fleshless neurasthenics such as you, who chew their fingers to the bone for art’s sake, have produced someone my size? Eat less, you have pleaded. Exercise more, you say, forgetting how many miles I walk every day from the oche to the dartboard and back. My dear mother and father, do not think I am fat because I am indolent or because I cannot say no to cakes and ale. I am fat because I love darts.
You don’t need me to tell you that Julius Caesar wanted men about him that were fat. “Sleek-headed men” he feared because they thought too much. Sleek-headed men, for that very reason, make poor darts players. There comes a moment in the life of every darts player when he loses his instinctive rhythm, cannot remember how he throws, how tightly he holds his darts, how much flight he gives them. Many a promising career has ended that way. Had listened to you, I would not be Champion of the World today. Let a darts player lose his insouciance and he’s finished. And whoever saw an insouciant thin man?
Our bulk belies our subtlety. More than that: our bulk is integral to our subtlety. Some law of nature decrees that for one dart to follow another into those two inches of darting ivory which determine the difference between success and failure, between genius and mediocrity, they must be thrown by fat men. You cannot think darts into a treble or a bullseye. You dare not pause long enough to give reflection a sniff. You must throw with a sort of cultivated disdain that is not given to the thin.
If only, my dear parents, you had snatched enough time from your cerebral labours to watch a game of darts. Actually watched one. You would, had you done so, I am sure, have marvelled at the contrast between the overflowing physical abundance of the man throwing and the refined and dainty precision with which he throws. It is a contrast at once aesthetically satisfying and philosophically baffling. How can it be? See an arrow fly in slow motion, see how much it arches and how far it deviates, and it is a miracle it ever finds its target. Would you not imagine the thrower of such a missile to be a person of near supernatural exactitude? And now look who he is!; ‘Tis I, your clumsy and in all other regards bumbling and maladroit son.
The crowd who cheer me don’t bother their heads with any of that. They pour beer down their throats and sing Stand up if You Love the Darts. But you, mother and father, aficionados of art in all mysterious manifestations, are just the people to understand dart’s artistry and yet, out of small-minded snobbery, you look away. And so you miss the marvel and the rare beauty of it. A cheetah can run, a tiger burns bright in the forests of the night, but only your fat, clumsy son can, without raising a sweat, hit a treble-20 from eight feet away whenever he wants to.
Shame you aren’t here to see me lift the trophy.
Your loving son and Champion of the World,
“The Fatboy”
Adapted from Howard Jacobson’s substack, Streetwalking with Howard Jacobson.
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SubscribeIn Canada one cannot openly discuss the idea that maybe the expansion of NATO might be seen in Russia as a threat to her national security. And any talk of historical context is immediently dismissed. Any view other than the official view of the Canadian esstablishment is rapidly silenced.
@M.Gatt – I can’t agree more with you. The same thing goes for Covid vaccines – Trucker Protest – Ukraine. Our prime minster chastised some of us for holding “unacceptable views” – being those views that don’t agree with the establishment view.
The fascist views of the “truckers” are unacceptable. But they are still perfectly able to share and discuss their ideas.
What they are not able to do is to illegally occupy the capital city, intimate the citizens and deny access to the people who live there.
Maybe you are the fascist.
In Ukraine, in the US funded coup in Kiev, protesters shut everything down, US politicians came to Kiev and encouraged them. Imagine Russian politicians coming to Ottawa or Washington DC to encourage the January 6th protest. When the Kiev protests went nowhere, snipers were introduced, shooting both protestors and the police. Nothing gets a revolt going like dead bodies. The protests turned violent, they burned buildings and one, Sasha Biley, pointed a gun to the heads of Donbass parliamentarians and forced all of them to resign. They, including the Ukrainian president were promptly replaced by Victoria Nuland’s (the engineer of the coup) un-elected hand picked men. The entire US congress, Canada and the EU hailed this illegal coup as democracy in action, while now, the US is hunting down and arresting demonstrators who participated in the January 6th Capital building incursion. That incursion was a picnic compared to the brutality and destruction of he US funded coup in Kiev. To say the west is hypocritical is a huge under statement.
By the way, Sasha Biley, the man who threatened Ukrainian parliamentarians to resign less they be shot, made a video where he said the Ukrainian police would assassinate him, or turn him over to the Russians for them to do the job. A week after he posted the video, the Ukrainian police hunted him down and he was killed. Why? He performed Victoria Nuland dirty work by forcing the Donbass parliamentarians to resign, he should have been rewarded. Looks like dead men tell no tales.
I will assume then that burning a Federal building, police stations and billions of dollars of private property (for BLM) is acceptable, however?
Maybe you are the fascist.
In Ukraine, in the US funded coup in Kiev, protesters shut everything down, US politicians came to Kiev and encouraged them. Imagine Russian politicians coming to Ottawa or Washington DC to encourage the January 6th protest. When the Kiev protests went nowhere, snipers were introduced, shooting both protestors and the police. Nothing gets a revolt going like dead bodies. The protests turned violent, they burned buildings and one, Sasha Biley, pointed a gun to the heads of Donbass parliamentarians and forced all of them to resign. They, including the Ukrainian president were promptly replaced by Victoria Nuland’s (the engineer of the coup) un-elected hand picked men. The entire US congress, Canada and the EU hailed this illegal coup as democracy in action, while now, the US is hunting down and arresting demonstrators who participated in the January 6th Capital building incursion. That incursion was a picnic compared to the brutality and destruction of he US funded coup in Kiev. To say the west is hypocritical is a huge under statement.
By the way, Sasha Biley, the man who threatened Ukrainian parliamentarians to resign less they be shot, made a video where he said the Ukrainian police would assassinate him, or turn him over to the Russians for them to do the job. A week after he posted the video, the Ukrainian police hunted him down and he was killed. Why? He performed Victoria Nuland dirty work by forcing the Donbass parliamentarians to resign, he should have been rewarded. Looks like dead men tell no tales.
I will assume then that burning a Federal building, police stations and billions of dollars of private property (for BLM) is acceptable, however?
The fascist views of the “truckers” are unacceptable. But they are still perfectly able to share and discuss their ideas.
What they are not able to do is to illegally occupy the capital city, intimate the citizens and deny access to the people who live there.
What happens when you discuss you ideas? Do the brutal Canadian secret police come and take you away to the gulag? Who silences you? And if you are silenced how come you are here?
Or are you talking nonsense?
Trudeau, like many of his ilk, is a vey illiberal Liberal. All he appears to have done so far is shut down peoples bank accounts but give him time and he will become almost as bad as Putin. Its just that some of his followers (only some) are a bit squeemish or perhaps they still have some conscience left. For what may become of Canada I feel sorry for ordinary Canadians.
Trudeau as bad as Putin? That’s quite the stretch!
He would be as bad if he could get away with it. Canadians owe the US for that!
Owe the US for what? You think you are somehow safeguarding Canadian democracy? That’s pretty comical!
Owe the US for what? You think you are somehow safeguarding Canadian democracy? That’s pretty comical!
Many’s the tyrant that started out as the people’s hero! Power corrupts!
He would be as bad if he could get away with it. Canadians owe the US for that!
Many’s the tyrant that started out as the people’s hero! Power corrupts!
Trudeau as bad as Putin? That’s quite the stretch!
“What happens when you discuss you ideas?”
Thats not what M Gatt said. He was not referring to discussions, he was referring to views that Trudeau regarded as unacceptable, like those of the truckers. What right does a government have to shut down someone’s bank account? Your exaggerations aren’t persuasive.
That is literally what he said.
Actually, you’re correct.
Actually, you’re correct.
That is literally what he said.
You don’t have to apologize for being a Marxist. It’s your choice. But it’s also ours to vehemently disagree with silencing our opponents by confiscating their property and ruining their livelihood.
Trudeau, like many of his ilk, is a vey illiberal Liberal. All he appears to have done so far is shut down peoples bank accounts but give him time and he will become almost as bad as Putin. Its just that some of his followers (only some) are a bit squeemish or perhaps they still have some conscience left. For what may become of Canada I feel sorry for ordinary Canadians.
“What happens when you discuss you ideas?”
Thats not what M Gatt said. He was not referring to discussions, he was referring to views that Trudeau regarded as unacceptable, like those of the truckers. What right does a government have to shut down someone’s bank account? Your exaggerations aren’t persuasive.
You don’t have to apologize for being a Marxist. It’s your choice. But it’s also ours to vehemently disagree with silencing our opponents by confiscating their property and ruining their livelihood.
I agree. Just because the idea that Putin feels ‘threatened’ by NATO is beyond ridiculous doesn’t mean his Canadian acolytes must be silenced.
We must ALL fight to restore the right to free speech.. indeed even those on the establishment side, if they have values, should object to this totalitarian style censorship!
@M.Gatt – I can’t agree more with you. The same thing goes for Covid vaccines – Trucker Protest – Ukraine. Our prime minster chastised some of us for holding “unacceptable views” – being those views that don’t agree with the establishment view.
What happens when you discuss you ideas? Do the brutal Canadian secret police come and take you away to the gulag? Who silences you? And if you are silenced how come you are here?
Or are you talking nonsense?
I agree. Just because the idea that Putin feels ‘threatened’ by NATO is beyond ridiculous doesn’t mean his Canadian acolytes must be silenced.
We must ALL fight to restore the right to free speech.. indeed even those on the establishment side, if they have values, should object to this totalitarian style censorship!
In Canada one cannot openly discuss the idea that maybe the expansion of NATO might be seen in Russia as a threat to her national security. And any talk of historical context is immediently dismissed. Any view other than the official view of the Canadian esstablishment is rapidly silenced.
”…over half of Slovaks want Russia to defeat Ukraine”
No suggestion of why. Is this simply due to their dependency upon Russian gas? Some historic antipathy to Ukrainians? Anti-Western sentiment? Or maybe a kind of delayed Stockholm syndrome, a feeling of sympathy for their erstwhile oppressors?
I want the Russians to win too, and I think they will
The same people who lie to me about covid are lying about the Ukraine and a long list of other things
You still don’t say why you want Russia to win, other than a general feeling that you are being lied to. Or is that sufficient reason in itself?
I also know that the neocons behind the war hate me as much as they hate the Russians
Most of the serious problems in the West are caused by the same people, anyone fighting them has my full support
Goodness. What have you done to upset them so much?
Why not ask what the West has done to upset him (and me) so much? Here’s a few hints:
NATO expansion despite promises.
Iraq and its million dead!
Afghanistan and it’s dead!
Syria, Libya, Somalia etc etc etc
And Vietnam abd its 3 million dead! Where are the war criminals from all those illegal invasions?
Why stop there? If we follow your logic, we should go all the way back to Cain and Abel or ancient Greece or Rome for heaven’s sake. Or does history only begin in the 1960’s for you?
Why stop there? If we follow your logic, we should go all the way back to Cain and Abel or ancient Greece or Rome for heaven’s sake. Or does history only begin in the 1960’s for you?
Why not ask what the West has done to upset him (and me) so much? Here’s a few hints:
NATO expansion despite promises.
Iraq and its million dead!
Afghanistan and it’s dead!
Syria, Libya, Somalia etc etc etc
And Vietnam abd its 3 million dead! Where are the war criminals from all those illegal invasions?
Goodness. What have you done to upset them so much?
Imagine a similar situation in a say Pro Russian Mexico which decides to persecute the many US expats living there! Would the US invade Mexico to protect its own citizens? How about if the same Mexico cosies up to Russia and accepts heavy Russian weaponry right on the US border? What then?
I also know that the neocons behind the war hate me as much as they hate the Russians
Most of the serious problems in the West are caused by the same people, anyone fighting them has my full support
Imagine a similar situation in a say Pro Russian Mexico which decides to persecute the many US expats living there! Would the US invade Mexico to protect its own citizens? How about if the same Mexico cosies up to Russia and accepts heavy Russian weaponry right on the US border? What then?
You know the neo-cons and the woke elite who lied to you about COVID are two entirely different groups, right? Your also delusional if you think Putin wouldn’t happily cooperate with them if it would get him what he wants, and crush your rights in the process.
The Western elite is truly awful, but Putin makes them look like Mother Teresa. Xi is even worse. You can’t let the enemy-of-my enemy logic lead you to embraces evil.
Wanting the Ukrainian to suffer under dictatorship to try and get some petty revenge for your grudges is a really ugly look.
The nice West has 6 million dead following its genocidal attacks on sovereign natuons over recent years.. What are the Russian and Chinese counts? Of course of you are unconcerned with the deaths of brown skinned peoples you won’t count sny of the 6 million as important? They’re all monsters but the West has easily the biggest tally. Where is the support for Palestine in a similar situation to Ukraine? Yep: more unimportant brown skinned people!
The nice West has 6 million dead following its genocidal attacks on sovereign natuons over recent years.. What are the Russian and Chinese counts? Of course of you are unconcerned with the deaths of brown skinned peoples you won’t count sny of the 6 million as important? They’re all monsters but the West has easily the biggest tally. Where is the support for Palestine in a similar situation to Ukraine? Yep: more unimportant brown skinned people!
Living in Romania, which has the longest border in the EU with Ukraine, a Russian victory would be rather a nightmare.
Welcome to free speech my Russian Brother. What other lies have been told? Mr Putin promised the world he would not invade Ukraine. Then he did. Covid is real and vaccinations have saved lives.
What lies have you been told?
Verifiable facts please.
NATO promised it wouldn’t encroach close to the Russian border.. and have you heard of the Minsk Accord? And who scuppered peace talks? …there are two sides: both guilty, both degerate killers and liars!
NATO promised it wouldn’t encroach close to the Russian border.. and have you heard of the Minsk Accord? And who scuppered peace talks? …there are two sides: both guilty, both degerate killers and liars!
Dear Sir, I would like to correspond with you. My email: kalmykov1950@mail.ru
You still don’t say why you want Russia to win, other than a general feeling that you are being lied to. Or is that sufficient reason in itself?
You know the neo-cons and the woke elite who lied to you about COVID are two entirely different groups, right? Your also delusional if you think Putin wouldn’t happily cooperate with them if it would get him what he wants, and crush your rights in the process.
The Western elite is truly awful, but Putin makes them look like Mother Teresa. Xi is even worse. You can’t let the enemy-of-my enemy logic lead you to embraces evil.
Wanting the Ukrainian to suffer under dictatorship to try and get some petty revenge for your grudges is a really ugly look.
Living in Romania, which has the longest border in the EU with Ukraine, a Russian victory would be rather a nightmare.
Welcome to free speech my Russian Brother. What other lies have been told? Mr Putin promised the world he would not invade Ukraine. Then he did. Covid is real and vaccinations have saved lives.
What lies have you been told?
Verifiable facts please.
Dear Sir, I would like to correspond with you. My email: kalmykov1950@mail.ru
The Western part of the Ukraine belonged in the interwar period partially to Poland and partially to Czechoslovakia.
Because until 1945 neither Czechs nor Slovaks had any direct contact to Russia, Russia was seen as Saviour of the Slavs.
..and indeed it was the saviour of Slavs and all of Europe as well! Ot was Russia that defeated Nazi Germany:
..and indeed it was the saviour of Slavs and all of Europe as well! Ot was Russia that defeated Nazi Germany:
Maybe it’s a bit all those things (with the exception of Stockholm syndrome)? And maybe too it’s a balanced view? If you weigh up all the rights and wrongs it’s possible to hold an opposing view. Yry not to be too amazed!
I want the Russians to win too, and I think they will
The same people who lie to me about covid are lying about the Ukraine and a long list of other things
The Western part of the Ukraine belonged in the interwar period partially to Poland and partially to Czechoslovakia.
Because until 1945 neither Czechs nor Slovaks had any direct contact to Russia, Russia was seen as Saviour of the Slavs.
Maybe it’s a bit all those things (with the exception of Stockholm syndrome)? And maybe too it’s a balanced view? If you weigh up all the rights and wrongs it’s possible to hold an opposing view. Yry not to be too amazed!
”…over half of Slovaks want Russia to defeat Ukraine”
No suggestion of why. Is this simply due to their dependency upon Russian gas? Some historic antipathy to Ukrainians? Anti-Western sentiment? Or maybe a kind of delayed Stockholm syndrome, a feeling of sympathy for their erstwhile oppressors?
This is the entire western world on every issue from Ukraine, mass immigration, covid to ‘rainbow’ rights. Only one narrative is allowed airtime. Others are always presented, when presented at all, as either insane or nazi. Welcome to the Uniparty!
This is the entire western world on every issue from Ukraine, mass immigration, covid to ‘rainbow’ rights. Only one narrative is allowed airtime. Others are always presented, when presented at all, as either insane or nazi. Welcome to the Uniparty!
The truckers should have all stayed home and not delivered any goods nationwide. Ottawa would have had to come to the table
The truckers should have all stayed home and not delivered any goods nationwide. Ottawa would have had to come to the table
The best decisions are made when different points of view are heard For example, if those who opposed lockdowns (proposing isolation for the elderly and vulnerable instead) had been allowed a debate, we may not be in the financial pickle we are today.
The same applies to Ukraine. No one was given air time to debate Boris Johnson’s aggressive military stance. Fortunately our new Prime Minister is more amenable to diplomacy. During PMQs this morning, he intimated that the UK was sending humanitarian and social aid and did not mention military hardware. He said that he would be in conversation with President Zelensky today and I await the outcome..
Ukraine has been destroyed because of the American refusal to contemplate a diplomatic solution to NATO membership. (As far as I remember Russia pressed for this over a three week period before frustration took hold)
It is time the Ukrainian people had peace and the beneficial relationship Europe had with Russia prior to this conflict was restored..
3 weeks?? It was over 8 years.
3 weeks?? It was over 8 years.
The best decisions are made when different points of view are heard For example, if those who opposed lockdowns (proposing isolation for the elderly and vulnerable instead) had been allowed a debate, we may not be in the financial pickle we are today.
The same applies to Ukraine. No one was given air time to debate Boris Johnson’s aggressive military stance. Fortunately our new Prime Minister is more amenable to diplomacy. During PMQs this morning, he intimated that the UK was sending humanitarian and social aid and did not mention military hardware. He said that he would be in conversation with President Zelensky today and I await the outcome..
Ukraine has been destroyed because of the American refusal to contemplate a diplomatic solution to NATO membership. (As far as I remember Russia pressed for this over a three week period before frustration took hold)
It is time the Ukrainian people had peace and the beneficial relationship Europe had with Russia prior to this conflict was restored..
Censorship is a sign of an authoritarian regime, to label something “misinformation” is simply an admission that the information in question might be embarrassing to the authorities should it be true, and if it needs to be censored, than it is almost certainly true.
Ukraine needs peace, and so does Russia. A deal where Russia can withdraw to lines as of Feb 23rd would almost certainly be accepted by Russia, they are, after all, loosing. To continue this war so that Ukraine can re capture Crimea and the Eastern Donbass would not only cost thousands of lives, and delay Ukrainian reconstruction, but it will result in the ethnic cleansing of ethnic Russians from Crimea and the Donbass, with Massacres of tens of thousands. The time for peace is now!
It should also be noted that Ukraine’s toughest soldiers would be very useful on building sites as Ukraine rebuilds, but only if they survive the war without life changing injuries.
Censorship is a sign of an authoritarian regime, to label something “misinformation” is simply an admission that the information in question might be embarrassing to the authorities should it be true, and if it needs to be censored, than it is almost certainly true.
Ukraine needs peace, and so does Russia. A deal where Russia can withdraw to lines as of Feb 23rd would almost certainly be accepted by Russia, they are, after all, loosing. To continue this war so that Ukraine can re capture Crimea and the Eastern Donbass would not only cost thousands of lives, and delay Ukrainian reconstruction, but it will result in the ethnic cleansing of ethnic Russians from Crimea and the Donbass, with Massacres of tens of thousands. The time for peace is now!
It should also be noted that Ukraine’s toughest soldiers would be very useful on building sites as Ukraine rebuilds, but only if they survive the war without life changing injuries.
Is this a joke? You obviously haven’t looked very hard – try again. Besides, is “diversity” (that great god to whom we must all apparently pay obeisance) to be judged purely in terms of melanin levels?
Is this a joke? You obviously haven’t looked very hard – try again. Besides, is “diversity” (that great god to whom we must all apparently pay obeisance) to be judged purely in terms of melanin levels?
Public make up their own minds without interference from either side?
Is it a more complex dilemma perhaps than the article presents? Does anyone believe Russia won’t be doing all it can to interfere with public opinion in these countries seeking to maximise division at every opportunity? How is a State to counter this and rebalance things, esp when the potential threat is existential to near neighbours, and thus by ‘potential’ to itself?
Yet media freedom such a priceless value too. Not an easy choice. But Europe is not neutral in this conflict. We’ve taken a side, and the right one too.
Do you imagine the West doesn’t do exactly the same in virtually every country on the planet? ‘ever hear of a guy called Julian Assange? He’s the beneficiary of the West’s great support for free speech and journalistic freedom! (for exposing exactly what you’re talking about: interference in sovereign nations). He’s lucky he’s not in Russia isn’t he where he might be sanctioned or even arrested?
I’m sure the West’s values and ideas will be percolating throughout the world, via different means and that’s quite self-evident from the progress made the last century or so. That arc of progress is bumpy of course, but still strong. But i suspect it’s not quite as state sponsored as you imply. And furthermore what elections can we interfere with in Russia, or China or Iran etc ?
Nonetheless it’s true that it’s not always a comfortable balancing act. The analogy doesn’t quite hold but it is fascinating to go back and look at the censorship and work of the Ministry of Information once Chruchill took over in 1940.
I’m sure the West’s values and ideas will be percolating throughout the world, via different means and that’s quite self-evident from the progress made the last century or so. That arc of progress is bumpy of course, but still strong. But i suspect it’s not quite as state sponsored as you imply. And furthermore what elections can we interfere with in Russia, or China or Iran etc ?
Nonetheless it’s true that it’s not always a comfortable balancing act. The analogy doesn’t quite hold but it is fascinating to go back and look at the censorship and work of the Ministry of Information once Chruchill took over in 1940.
Do you imagine the West doesn’t do exactly the same in virtually every country on the planet? ‘ever hear of a guy called Julian Assange? He’s the beneficiary of the West’s great support for free speech and journalistic freedom! (for exposing exactly what you’re talking about: interference in sovereign nations). He’s lucky he’s not in Russia isn’t he where he might be sanctioned or even arrested?
Public make up their own minds without interference from either side?
Is it a more complex dilemma perhaps than the article presents? Does anyone believe Russia won’t be doing all it can to interfere with public opinion in these countries seeking to maximise division at every opportunity? How is a State to counter this and rebalance things, esp when the potential threat is existential to near neighbours, and thus by ‘potential’ to itself?
Yet media freedom such a priceless value too. Not an easy choice. But Europe is not neutral in this conflict. We’ve taken a side, and the right one too.
You have to feel sorry now for the politicians, in central and in other parts of Europe in the way that it’s possible to feel sorry for Czar Nicholas II c1916. Yep he was certainly no angel, not a good egg, but you can see what’s on the cards, and they’re drifting away from reality on a little dinghy when they think they are on a super-yacht… those amongst them who can glimpse it must be absolutely terrified, and with some justification. If history is anything to go by it is probably going to get worse before it gets better, for both them and for us.
Time to fess up, folks.
You have to feel sorry now for the politicians, in central and in other parts of Europe in the way that it’s possible to feel sorry for Czar Nicholas II c1916. Yep he was certainly no angel, not a good egg, but you can see what’s on the cards, and they’re drifting away from reality on a little dinghy when they think they are on a super-yacht… those amongst them who can glimpse it must be absolutely terrified, and with some justification. If history is anything to go by it is probably going to get worse before it gets better, for both them and for us.
Time to fess up, folks.
“A recent academic study suggested that over half of Slovaks want Russia to defeat Ukraine, with 20% wanting a “clear victory” for the Kremlin.”
Apparently to support this line, it included a link to an article in Slovakian. Or in Czech — I wouldn’t know the difference, as would an overwhelming share of UnHerd readers; for all I know it may suggest that Martians just landed in Bratislava. And why is this writer citing a study that merely suggested something? Seems like shaky ground for erecting support for Russia.
All this notwithstanding, I’m perfectly willing to admit the probability of a sizable segment of the Slovak population favoring Russia; and I would suggest that they are the younger age cohort: those most ignorant of 20th-century events, and without any personal recollections of Russia’s 45-year reign of terror in central Europe.
Well, Ukraine was a part of the USSR till 1991, you know, and walked off with a sizeable chunk of Central Europe in 1945, after being what they call in the case of Croatia a puppet state of Germany between 1941 and 1944.it was quite a shock to me in 2989 to stand in the Czechoslovak border and look across it to the USSR.
Your points involving Croatia and the year 2989 are not entirely clear to me, but I would point out that by the time Hitler invaded in 1941, the Ukrainians had suffered tremendously under Stalin’s yoke. Ever heard of the Holodomor? Or any of the other genocides inflicted on them by the Russians since 1917? That history makes it understandable that some welcomed the German troops as liberators.
Well the fact that you were able to time travel that far into the future, and that the USSR and Czechoslovakia were both re-constituted at that time, is somewhat surprising. What’s your secret technology?
Your points involving Croatia and the year 2989 are not entirely clear to me, but I would point out that by the time Hitler invaded in 1941, the Ukrainians had suffered tremendously under Stalin’s yoke. Ever heard of the Holodomor? Or any of the other genocides inflicted on them by the Russians since 1917? That history makes it understandable that some welcomed the German troops as liberators.
Well the fact that you were able to time travel that far into the future, and that the USSR and Czechoslovakia were both re-constituted at that time, is somewhat surprising. What’s your secret technology?
Maybe they are aware of (and even grateful for) Russia defeating Nazi Germany: the real war was fought and won by Russia! The war in the West was a skirmish by comparison. Maybe they recall the Ukrainians sided with the Nazis in WW2 (and many remain Nazi to this day! eg the Azov Battalion …and the glorification of their own Nazi hero Bandero.) Maybe they have a more balanced view of the conflict and maybe the see the West for the lying, duplicitous, warmongering monster that it is with its 6 million dead thanks to ITS recent murderous invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Syria, Libya etc etc.. Maybe they’re less naïve than their Western counterparts?
Isn’t is curious that the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact resulted in the Soviet Union collaborating with Germany in the invasion of Poland (they both invaded in September 1939) ? Along with the supply of huge amounts of critical raw materials and fuel from the Soviet Union to Germany to enable its war efforts from 1939-1941.
The Soviet Union played an active part in initiating WWII. Unlike the “warmongering West” you affect to despise.
Also, that the Red Army drove to Germany largely in American trucks.
Your implication that all Ukranians supported trhe Germans in WWII is wrong.
Your view of history is unbalanced and is appallingly ignorant of some basic and well-known facts.
Isn’t is curious that the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact resulted in the Soviet Union collaborating with Germany in the invasion of Poland (they both invaded in September 1939) ? Along with the supply of huge amounts of critical raw materials and fuel from the Soviet Union to Germany to enable its war efforts from 1939-1941.
The Soviet Union played an active part in initiating WWII. Unlike the “warmongering West” you affect to despise.
Also, that the Red Army drove to Germany largely in American trucks.
Your implication that all Ukranians supported trhe Germans in WWII is wrong.
Your view of history is unbalanced and is appallingly ignorant of some basic and well-known facts.
Well, Ukraine was a part of the USSR till 1991, you know, and walked off with a sizeable chunk of Central Europe in 1945, after being what they call in the case of Croatia a puppet state of Germany between 1941 and 1944.it was quite a shock to me in 2989 to stand in the Czechoslovak border and look across it to the USSR.
Maybe they are aware of (and even grateful for) Russia defeating Nazi Germany: the real war was fought and won by Russia! The war in the West was a skirmish by comparison. Maybe they recall the Ukrainians sided with the Nazis in WW2 (and many remain Nazi to this day! eg the Azov Battalion …and the glorification of their own Nazi hero Bandero.) Maybe they have a more balanced view of the conflict and maybe the see the West for the lying, duplicitous, warmongering monster that it is with its 6 million dead thanks to ITS recent murderous invasions of Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Syria, Libya etc etc.. Maybe they’re less naïve than their Western counterparts?
“A recent academic study suggested that over half of Slovaks want Russia to defeat Ukraine, with 20% wanting a “clear victory” for the Kremlin.”
Apparently to support this line, it included a link to an article in Slovakian. Or in Czech — I wouldn’t know the difference, as would an overwhelming share of UnHerd readers; for all I know it may suggest that Martians just landed in Bratislava. And why is this writer citing a study that merely suggested something? Seems like shaky ground for erecting support for Russia.
All this notwithstanding, I’m perfectly willing to admit the probability of a sizable segment of the Slovak population favoring Russia; and I would suggest that they are the younger age cohort: those most ignorant of 20th-century events, and without any personal recollections of Russia’s 45-year reign of terror in central Europe.
The Visegrad group seems to be disintegrating.
The Visegrad group seems to be disintegrating.
Its about time people particularly in the UK stepped back into the real world. Russia is going to destroy Ukraine not just defeat it and European NATO as well, if they’re dumb enough to join in or instigate terrorist acticivities. Our leaders don’t need much persuading, just payment later for ‘services rendered’. A bit like Zelinsky if he gets out.
Don’t worry the Ukrainians will all be able to live in western Ukraine only it’ll be called Galicia and every misfit with a fascist tatto can move there and do what they like, in the dark.
Reality is the last thing we deluded, misinformed, amnesiacs need at this time: thank you! We’re happy fighting the Reds from our nice armchairs so please: no more reality! You’re spoiling the war game!
Reality is the last thing we deluded, misinformed, amnesiacs need at this time: thank you! We’re happy fighting the Reds from our nice armchairs so please: no more reality! You’re spoiling the war game!
Its about time people particularly in the UK stepped back into the real world. Russia is going to destroy Ukraine not just defeat it and European NATO as well, if they’re dumb enough to join in or instigate terrorist acticivities. Our leaders don’t need much persuading, just payment later for ‘services rendered’. A bit like Zelinsky if he gets out.
Don’t worry the Ukrainians will all be able to live in western Ukraine only it’ll be called Galicia and every misfit with a fascist tatto can move there and do what they like, in the dark.
Cue comments from the disaffected…..