In a short story published in 1955, Isaac Asimov imagined America’s Presidential election day in 2008. Amid intense excitement, the entire world watches on as an ordinary citizen is led forward to cast his vote — the only vote needed in the entire country, since he had been chosen by a supercomputer to be the completely representative citizen that year.
Asimov was inspired by CBS News’s Remington Rand UNIVAC I computer, which correctly predicted a landslide for Eisenhower on election night 1952 after only 3 million votes had been counted and Adlai Stevenson was ahead. It was the first instance of what has become a familiar feature of US elections, to the degree that most people treat the “calling” of the result early in the evening by the networks as the actual outcome of the election.
Asimov’s fantasy was a prophetic reductio ad absurdum of something which has played a steadily increasing role in modern politics: the idea that citizens can be represented by a carefully designed system in which they play no active role. The vogue for citizen juries is an illustration of this, while a number of theorists have gone even further and proposed that actual legislative assemblies should be chosen through some kind of lottery — what is technically termed “sortition”. The processes of voting and elections, on this account, are messy and corruptible: far better to have a system which is genuinely representative of public opinion. And a citizen jury will represent the population better than a committee of elected legislators scrutinising the same material.
It is also the case that politics since 1955 has come to be wholly dominated by opinion polling, to the extent that a great deal of policy is devised by governments to fit in with what the polls say. This is a practical form of daily representation, going far beyond what would have been conceivable to earlier generations. Imagine, for instance, what would be happening at the moment, were we still in the position we were in the 19th or early-20th centuries. Would our politicians be anything like as sure of victory or defeat as they currently seem to be? Would we even be having a general election at the moment, and might Boris Johnson still be Prime Minister?
In reality, however, today’s emphasis polling masks the fact that the general public has played no active part in these decisions; rather, a bloodless and abstract form of representation has replaced the old practices of mass action by citizens which once were used to bring about political change. People can lobby, demonstrate and be activists in other ways, but they cannot take part in the difficult business of decision-making — that is restricted to a small sample of the population.
So far has the assumption wormed its way into people’s heads that it now seems natural to give the vote to 16-year-olds even if they cannot be members of Parliament (allowing them to be members was proposed in Scotland, but nothing came of). Contrast this with what happened when women and working men were given the vote: they almost immediately became eligible themselves to be legislators, and it would have seemed ridiculous to those generations of politicians to have the one without the other. What’s different now is that our background assumptions about representation have shifted, such that elections now look like superior (or possibly inferior) opinion polls — and why shouldn’t everyone with opinions (which especially includes teenagers) have the vote?
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SubscribeOh yeah? Well, perhaps…perhaps politics has been expelled from me! Yeah! How do you like them apples, politics?!
Prof. Tuck is right, changes to our democracy are being mooted, but it’s not to solve any particular problem.
It’s a form of displacement activity, trying to look busy when no one has much of a clue how to solve our very real and pressing problems.
Authors such as Richard Tuck, and thoughtful, clear, original and useful articles such as these, are the reasons I subscribe to Unherd. Thank you, Richard. This is one worth keeping!
A really good point on why Boris Johnson should have been allowed to face the electorate at the next election, and why Trudeau should as well.
An excellent piece – thank you. Already I can see I’ll be rereading and chewing it over later on this evening. This sort of analysis and writing justifies my subscription: more such, please.
I think it is becoming increasingly clear that the voting age should be raised to 21 or even 25.
I think that this should be more widely known;
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/running-electoral-registration-wales/eligibility-register-vote/how-does-mental-capacity-affect-right-register-vote
It includes the amazing statement “While electors with any level or no level of mental capacity may be registered to vote, the decision as to whether and how to vote at an election must be made by the elector themselves”
Just let that sink in; any or no level of mental capacity.
Who decides what level a person’s “mental capacity” is? There are lots of well-educated people in this country who would probably agree that anyone capable of voting Leave in 2016 automatically disqualifies themselves from entitlement to cast an informed vote, as a somewhat extreme example (but there are people who really do believe this).
I suspect that the rule you quote is an example of how democracy isn’t perfect, but is still better than anything else we can presently devise.
There are a battery of tests to determine learning disability, and if there weren’t doctors wouldn’t be able to make that diagnosis.
Every GP maintains a Learning Disability Register so that he can give those patients special treatment.
https://www.mencap.org.uk/easyread/join-the-learning-disability-register
Now, are you telling me that they’re OK to vote?
I agree (although have been thinking that 30 might be better). Make it compulsory.
Combine this with a requirement for most voters to have paid, say, at least two years of NI or UK tax (likes of homemakers carers and low wage exempt) and then I think we’re good to go…
Oh and anyone who doesn’t vote should be strongly encouraged to STFU between elections.
I can dream can’t I? 🙂
One factor is the bypassing of democracy by publically funded, unaccountable bodies such as supranational organisations, NGOs, Quangos etc. The same grouping who warns us that “Democracy is under threat” from the very electorate it claims to support, that’s quite a trick..
And judges, both here and abroad. Even more pernicious. No court should be able to say that Parliament cannot legislate on something the judges don’t like.
This is a fascinating theoretical problem in my opinion. If we believe (and I do) that Rule by Law rather than by Man is a central feature of civilized, successful states, then you have placed Law at the top of the decision tree.
But Law can only be interpreted and implemented by Man. So the very objective process you put in place (Law) to restrain the wanton self-interest of subjective Man, becomes controlled by him, and used by him to his own ends. At the end of the day, our best efforts to restrain Man fail.
It’s almost as if even political theory is, at root, theological.
Courts should stick to interpreting what the law says and if called upon knocking back policies and decisions that are illegal. Government and Parliament can then go back and change the law or abandon the attempt.
The judges should not be able to override the laws passed by votes of Parliament.
You either believe in democracy or you don’t. Too many judges seem to take the view that they can make their own law if they don’t like what elected politicians decide.
“No court should be able to say that Parliament cannot legislate on something the judges don’t like.”
And yet there are things Parliament should not be allowed to legislate (eg. enslaving one part of the population to another). How to adjudicate legitimate statutes from illegitimate ones? Apply the agency principle. If it would be unlawful for an individual to do, then it is equally unlawful for the government t do it or purport to authorise it.
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Two party systems are an atrocious way to govern. A two party state shares far too much in common with a one party state.
Hard to imagine why someone would go to the trouble of downvoting such a reasonable comment.
Are you referring to the US or the UK?
We don’t have a two party system in the UK. We do have other parties. They don’t win that many seats. But they are there.
Our system is flawed. But does tend to keep out genuine extremist politics. Reform is not the AfD. The calls for PR should be thought through really carefully. It will likely bring more extreme political views and factionalism. Yes we will get some cuddly tree huggers but we will also get genuine fascists.
People really need to think carefully about the pitfalls of PR. It needs explaining to people. Not just the positives but also the negatives.
Our system is flawed. But does tend to keep out genuine extremist politics. Reform is not the AfD.
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Is the AfD an extremist party?
Each one of the two parties ends up having to accomodate groups with differing political agendas. As separate parties they get no electoral traction with FPTP, and are forced to become entryists or factions within the two main parties. Thus the two-party system consists of two behemoths that are constantly striving to keep the lid on internal civil wars. In the case of the Tory party, with no success.
As mentioned in other comments, but not the main article, one of the major differences between 1910 and now is that we used to have a Civil Service and now we are had by the Civil Service. Recent politicians find it extremely difficult to impose their will on the mechanics of state… and that is why we despise many politicians.
Whoever you vote for becomes the next set of scapegoats for the activities of the Blob, the Clerisy.
There maybe a little, or a lot, of truth in this, BUT, whatever the truth, it sounds too much like a ‘tin hat’ed’ conspiracy theory to be admitted.
I’m open to alternative explanations – but if one set of politicians were hopeless then surely another set would take over? Unless there is some underlying systemic cause.
For me the arguments between FPTP or PR are complex and I waiver between which of the two is better, or if it would ever make any difference.
But whenever I read articles about it by people connected to any of the parties the stench of self-interest is overwhelming.
Thank you. A truly insightful and thought provoking article which points up several
Important points. The danger of changing of PM without public mandate is I think one of these..
Democracies are more complex things than just a method of voting. It embeds the idea that ‘the people’ are the primary source of law and places the idea of ‘by popular consent’ at the heart of policy making, and gives channels for the public to object and to be heard, even on small and local matters. Democracy is complex and chaotic, but involves us because everyone can have a voice, and everyone can try to persuade their neighbour, raise an objection or stand for election.
The contrast would be the German Democratic Republic (East Germany) which was a country run by one party who determined what the people should think and how they should behave, but without any popular legitimacy because decisions never involved the public or the people. Yes, there was a periodic vote, but it had to be a vote for the party and a proscribed set of policies. Up until the point that the people rebelled (Hmmm… that sounds familiar).
The calls for PR are odd.
Yes, you will get a wider range of thoughts and opinions but they won’t be necessarily the ones that ‘good’ people want to hear!
If you want PR and you think Farage is a facist just wait and see what PR welcomes in.
I would prefer PR to FPTP and think Farage is a moron (“facist” used as an all purpose insult is ineffective and his politics are big business not big state).
Under PR, Farage (or the Greens or other small parties) would have to moderate and compromise, so they should prioritise the main reason(s) people voted for them – as the LibDems utterly failed to do on tuition fees in the coalition and were rightly punished by their supporters.
So, if Reform were in a coalition, they would have to make immigration their priority – their voters don’t care about their other policies. The Greens would have to prioritise environmental protection and leave gender politics at the door.
Look at other countries, the small parties don’t “moderate”, they just become one-issue. The Greens and Liberals in Germany being good example and there is no room for compromise which is one of the reasons the current German government is getting hammered at every election since it came to power. The resignation from a large majority of voters that they are not going to get what they want – or even what was promised – might fly in European countries but not here. People are angry that the Conservatives haven’t delivered as promised, in Germany that happens at every election for every party who wins (apart from Merkel who I think had a one term majority).
People don’t get what they want in the UK and are (sadly for those who support better representation of the electorate’s views) resigned to that fact, hence the term – much vaunted on UnHerd – “Uniparty” due to Labour and the Tories having such similar policies.
The Tories have not won more than 50% of the vote since 1931. Labour never have.
1983 Tories, Thatcher 42%
1987 Tories, Thatcher 42%
1992 Tories, Major 42%
1997 Labour, Blair 43% “landslide”
2001 Labour, Blair 41%
2005 Labour, Blair 35%
2010 Coalition Tory/LD, Cameron 59%
2015 Tories, Cameron 36%
2017 Tories, May 42% (no majority)
2019 Tories, Johnson 44% “landslide”
Source: House of Commons Library, UK Election Statistics 1918-2023
If Farage’s politics were “big business” as you claim, then that would actually partly qualify him as Fascist, according at least to Mussolini’s definition of Fascism.
However, you are wrong about this: Farage is not corporatist, he is free market, which is – these days – almost the diametric opposite.
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Mentioning the 1910 Royal Commission is fascinating as a point of rebuttal to the charms of PR but, the author then goes on to show just how profoundly out of date those conclusions are in 2024.
To start off with, the obvious – which of two parties shall form the Government.
I grant the author’s point which is that this approach rewards the party which is able to make itself into the biggest tent (the Tories). But there is an ideological bias even then – conservatives are people who like things as they are and therefrore form a coherent bloc. Progressives, by contrast, are those who want to change things and, it is immediately obvious that not everyone who wants change will want the same change. It is therefore easier for Conservatives to be a big tent than progressives – whether they be Whigs, Liberals or Labour.
Be that as it may, the fact is that we have more than two parties now. Several of them representing only one nation of the union.
Moreover, given that we have a multiplicity of parties, the experience of the UK is that parties which broadly agree with one another end up acting as spoilers and letting the opponents in. We’re about to see a striking example of that in 2024 where Starmer gets the same share of votes that Corbyn did in 2017 but ends up with a vast majority, because, Reform will split the Tory vote, costing the Tories a vast swathe of seats whilst winning hardly any for themselves.
In 1983, the SDP did the same for Labour (Thanks Polly Toynbee)
PR might not be ideal but FPTP is actively perverse.
The other point concerns the mass party system. The Labour party’s role in a two party system under FPTP might have been a bit odd but Labour was a movement as well as a party because of its historic link with Trade Unionism. It was, internally democratic as well as participating in a democratic election. You can, of course argue about the quality of that internal democracy but you can argue about anything.
Starmer’s Labour is no longer internally democratic in that sense and the Conservative party doesn’t even pretend to be so.
PR isn’t a panacea but it would be better than this nonsense.
Agree, while I am not hopeful of labour being brave enough to propose PR, it is the right thing to do. so many people have to vote tactically, and never get the party they want. give people real power.
‘ It is widely recognised that this general election is marked by an almost unprecedented degree of hostility to both major parties on the part of the electorate. But who can be surprised at this, given that they were offered the chance of real and active democracy only to have it snatched away from them — and this time, perhaps, for good?’
This really hit home – I can’t remember any election where I’ve felt as utterly, utterly disaffected and pi**ed off as this one.
“In the end, Brexit was saved in 2019 by a very traditional (and democratic) means: a general election, understood as another referendum.”
If only this was the case! It seems to have gone unnoticed that in the 2019 election the parties that were opposed to Brexit and were offering either a say on the final deal or a second referendum garnered over 50% of the vote.
The Conservatives won 56% of the seats with around 43% of the votes. A landslide of seats but hardly a landslide of votes.
The same democratic shortfall also cost the nearly 4 million people who voted for UKIP in the 2015 election. The party gained over 12% of the votes but only managed to win a single seat. No wonder they came out in force in 2016.
The system is clearly broken.
I believe the assumptions underlying ‘representational’ democracy are wrong.
The views of the citizenry cannot be represented even if politicians had the integrity to actually try it.
I’ve suggested a radical alternative, which is an ongoing project, in which all shades of opinion are always represented. It’s done by cutting out the ‘middle men’.
It starts at https://panocracy.substack.com/p/panocracy and its simple intention is to restore democracy.
Please have a look and leave your comments.
Representative democracy is a derogation of true democracy. The powers delegated to our reperesentative must be severely limited to preserve as much true democracy as possible.
There are things that Parliament should not be allowed to do. For example enacting analogues of the 1933 Nuremberg laws, or South Africa’s Apartheid laws. What principle invalidates those statutes, and could it be that there are many statutes on the books now that are invalid under that principle?
Here is a principle that solves the Nuremberg problem – Agency theory. In the common law, an act which is unlawful for an individual to do is still unlawful if done through an agent. For example, in a contract killing, both principal and agent would be liable for murder. The government is agent for the people. Actions that would be unlawful for an individual to do are not magically lawful after 3 readings in Parliament and a Royal assent.