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How Edinburgh University stifled my investigation




January 19, 2024   7 mins

Almost 150 years ago, a young medical student at Edinburgh University was inspired by one of his lecturers to devise a detective with remarkable powers of deduction based on solid scientific principles. Arthur Conan Doyle wanted a hero for the modern age who relied on logic and reason, and the creation that resulted — Sherlock Holmes — was such a success that the character still enthrals the world. Yet today Conan Doyle’s alma mater is betraying its claims to champion critical thinking and transparency in a manner that would certainly have aroused suspicions of that literary sleuth.

For Edinburgh University officials are stifling my efforts to help find the truth about the origins of Covid-19 in order to protect one of their top academics, who finds himself a central figure in a furore of worldwide significance. It might seem a long way from Wuhan, where the pandemic erupted at some point in 2019, to Scotland’s genteel capital. But at the core of debate over the birth of a strange coronavirus stands an evolutionary biologist called Andrew Rambaut. This influential professor, among the world’s most cited scientists, is accused of playing a key role in efforts by a cabal of prominent experts to suppress the idea Covid might be linked to risky research carried out inside a Chinese laboratory.

Science, of course, depends on data, evidence and unfettered debate. And tracking down Covid’s origins could help protect the planet from future pandemics; it might even have implications for the global tussle between autocracy and democracy. But it seems clear now there was an alarming cover-up led by the heads of major American and British research funding bodies — and the emails exchanged between Rambaut and other leading players might shed light on what else went on behind the scenes.

Edinburgh University boasts a “culture of openness” on its website. But it rejected my requests under the Freedom of Information Act to access these emails on the basis that such a move might affect their professor’s health and safety. After 27 months — and following my appeal to Scotland’s Information Commissioner — the university admitted finally it held the information that I sought. However, it declined still to release it into the public domain, and rebuffed similar requests on the same grounds from US Right to Know, a public health campaign group that has winkled out significant information on these issues using similar tactics.

So in the absence of their evidence, let us examine some of the existing data. After all, as Conan Doyle once wrote to explain how dodgy theories can get bolstered to mask the truth, “there is nothing more deceptive than an obvious fact”. There are at least 10,000 cities on our planet. And yet, Covid emerged in the Chinese metropolis of Wuhan. This sprawling city is hundreds of miles from the nearest colonies of wild bats with similar coronaviruses, found in the tropical caves of southern China, so the location surprised even Shi “Bat Woman” Zhengli, their leading expert on such diseases. She is based at Wuhan Institute of Virology, China’s most important bio-security laboratory and the biggest repository of bat coronaviruses in Asia. It had known safety concerns. And it was conducting risky research to boost the infectivity of mutant bat viruses in humanised mice in low-level biosafety conditions.

Other labs in the city were also carrying out cutting-edge scientific work. So it did not take the forensic genius of a great detective to suspect the emergence of Sars-CoV-2 — the strain of virus that causes Covid-19 — could possibly be tied to research in the city. Especially when this new disease had a feature not seen on more than 200 similar types of coronavirus called a furin cleavage site, which allows its spike protein to bind effectively to cells in many human tissues.

Maintaining on an open mind regarding all possible scenarios the available data might indicate should not have been controversial. This is, after all, the basis of science. Yet from start of the pandemic, a few prominent scientists, led by the bossses of the most important research funding bodies in Britain and the US, publicly dismissed fears Covid might be linked to a Wuhan lab. This led the suggestion to be scorned as “conspiracy theory”, condemned by patsy journalists, and even dismissed by some people as racist.

Among these experts was Rambaut, who ran the online site that first published the Sars-CoV-2 genome after it was leaked by a brave Chinese scientist in early 2020 in tandem with their mutual friend Eddie Holmes, a Sydney-based British virologist. Before the pandemic, both men were critics of the sort of “misguided” virus-hunting carried out by Wuhan scientists such as Shi in those bat caves of southern China. Some of this work was carried out with Western partners, especially the controversial British scientist Peter Daszak and his EcoHealth Alliance group that was backed by US taxpayers.

Yet in mid-March 2020 — just 11 weeks after Taiwan tipped off the World Health Organisation about a weird new disease in Wuhan, and six weeks after the body had declared Covid to be an international emergency — Rambaut and Holmes were among five authors of a commentary in Nature Medicine hastily stating that they “do not believe that any type of laboratory-based scenario is plausible”. This unequivocal statement — entitled “The proximal origin of SARS-CoV-2” — was arguably the most influential scientific document published in the pandemic. It was even cited in the White House by Anthony Fauci. And it was singled out to me for its significance by Sir Jeremy Farrar, the former head of the Wellcome Trust who was appointed as the WHO’s Chief Scientist last year.

It has since been revealed through leaks, investigations, books and a barrage of freedom of information requests that these two scientific leaders, along with the head of the biggest US science funding body, were involved in covertly drafting this statement (although strangely not credited). And it emerged that some of these scientists privately feared the possibility of a laboratory link even as they drafted the paper condemning such ideas. Farrar himself had complained to Francis Collins, then the head of the US National Institutes of Health, which helped fund some research in Wuhan, about the “Wild West” biosecurity at labs in the central Chinese city. Private messages released though a Congressional inquiry — detailing “super secret” discussions between Rambaut and three fellow authors of the “proximal origins” statement — further exposed concerns that Covid might be tied to scientific research, along with concerning signs of pressure from “higher ups” to squash such a stance.

One admitted the lab escape theory was “so friggin’ likely” based on work carried out in Wuhan and molecular data — leading Rambaut to say that their discussion of the idea “shows how plausible it is”. In February 2020 he wrote: “I personally think we should get away from all the strange coincidence stuff… I agree it smells really fishy but without a smoking gun it will not do us any good. The truth is never going to come out (if escape is the truth).”

Rambaut also said that “once you lose the market as the origin, all bets are off” — a reference to the theory that the virus originated with an infected animal in a food market, ruled out three months later by the Chinese authorities. The Edinburgh academic also wrote about “the shit show” if “anyone serious accused the Chinese of even accidental release”, arguing they should say “given there is no evidence of a specifically engineered virus, we cannot possibly distinguish between natural evolution and escape so we are content with ascribing it to natural process”.

Such discrepancies between the private views of prominent experts and their public positions, published in prestigious journals with commercial ties to China, fuel fears that powerful scientists — whether trying to appease China or mask Western funding ties to risky research — duped the world by trying to stifle debate. Needless to say, this has been firmly denied by those involved. Rambaut, however, also used social media to debunk the “Mojiang miners theory”. This suggests Sars-Cov-2 might be tied to three miners who died from a respiratory disease, similar to Covid 19, that they caught while clearing bat droppings in a cave network in south China. The trio were infected in an abandoned copper mine where scientists from Wuhan sampled RaTG13, the closest known relative of Sars-Cov-2.

Having been looking into these issues since early 2020, I requested Rambaut’s email discussions with Farrar, Fauci, Holmes and Danish evolutionary biologist Kristian Andersen in relation to that controversial Nature Medicine document. I had made an earlier effort to obtain emails between these experts through Whitehall and Sir Patrick Vallance, then the government’s chief scientific adviser, but this resulted in release of a batch of documents so heavily redacted that they were almost worthless. So I sought Rambaut’s emails with Vallance, too, on this issue.

This was far from a journalistic fishing exercise — as proven by evidence that has emerged elsewhere from other FOI requests. These include US Right to Know’s exposure of how Daszak had secretly organised another notorious statement published in The Lancet early in the pandemic that condemned “conspiracy theories suggesting that Covid-19 does not have a natural origin” and ridiculously praised Beijing for “rapid, open and transparent” sharing of data. It was signed by 27 experts, including Farrar and two Wellcome Trust colleagues.

Daszak also authored a $14.2 million funding request to the Pentagon’s research arm for a study supposedly “defusing the threat of bat-borne coronaviruses” that suggested the insertion of “human-specific cleavage sites”. US Right to Know found last month that he envisaged much of this controversial gain-of-function work being carried out in Wuhan — although Ralph Baric, his partner on this project, admitted they might grow viruses in such low-level biosecurity that US researchers “will likely freak out”. The initial 2018 proposal was rejected since it could “put local communities at risk” — but clearly there were plans afoot for precisely the sort of high-risk work in Wuhan that could have led to the pandemic.

We still do not know the definitive answer to the riddle of Covid’s origins. But we do know China’s Communist dictatorship covered up the emergence of a deadly new virus with disastrous consequences, silencing medical whistleblowers and burying crucial data that could have saved lives. We know that two major US intelligence agencies feared the virus leaked from a lab. We heard housing minister Michael Gove tell the Covid inquiry “there is a significant body of judgement” that believes coronavirus “was man-made”. Meanwhile no sustainable evidence has emerged to prove the claims of zoonotic transmission, despite desperate efforts to link animals such as pangolins and raccoon dogs to the spread of a bat disease into humans.

Curiously, Edinburgh University admitted last year to being over-reliant on Chinese funding with more than 7,500 students coming from Asian superpower, compared with 11,000 from England. Two months ago, Civitas think tank accused it of taking £12 million in five years from bodies with ties to China’s military — revealed through freedom of interest requests. Such sources of finance are not unusual at our universities, sadly, but it would be disturbing if such links were the real reason why this prestigious institution does not want to release important documents that might embarrass Beijing.

It rebuffed my request in an eight-page letter from its legal chief that even had the gall to argue that Rambaut had already published his views on Covid origins in that contentious Nature Medicine article “accessed over five and half million times”. The letter — ironically delayed for months by Covid’s impact on working practices — ruled that disclosure of their professor’s emails might “endanger the physical or mental health or safety of an individual” following “threatening behaviour against several academics in this narrow field”. Like many journalists, I am aware of the unsettling nature of abuse and threats. Such treatment is unacceptable for any scientist, however famous or controversial. But it should be pointed out that it is the shameful behaviour of some of science’s leading lights that turned this into such a toxic debate, which became all the more poisonous after becoming entangled in tribal politics amid disingenuous talk of conspiracy theories.

Science, like academia and journalism, should not be undermined by hiding of key information. Data, facts and evidence should be shared, not shackled or suppressed in a democracy — especially if they might cast light on the worst public health disaster for a century.


Ian Birrell is an award-winning foreign reporter and columnist. He is also the founder, with Damon Albarn, of Africa Express.

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Mike Downing
Mike Downing
3 months ago

Dear Ian,

Keep going and don’t let the ba£tards grind you down.

Chipoko
Chipoko
3 months ago
Reply to  Mike Downing

Don’t give up!

Tessa Bob
Tessa Bob
3 months ago
Reply to  Mike Downing

The stringent restrictions implemented by Edinburgh University posed a substantial obstacle to my research, as they restricted my access to essential resources and reduced the depth of my study. My investigation was less successful because of the university’s lack of cooperation, even though I looked for support in other places. Due to Edinburgh University’s restrictive policies, I had to rely on CIPD Assignment Help to fill in the gaps in my education during these trying times.

Lula Ball
Lula Ball
2 months ago
Reply to  Mike Downing

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Graeme Archer
Graeme Archer
3 months ago

Well done Mr Birrell on your work here, and to UnHerd for publishing it.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
3 months ago
Reply to  Graeme Archer

If they had nothing to hid they would have disclosed the emails.
As pressure mounts what is the betting that the emails will be accidently deleted in a sever crash. Remember you heard it here first

Leigh A
Leigh A
3 months ago

Yet another example of higher education feathering its own nest instead of the pursuit of knowledge. At this point I wouldn’t be sad to see the entire sector razed to the ground and started over

Danny D
Danny D
3 months ago
Reply to  Leigh A

Absolutely. I hope some of the projects by people like Musk of establishing real universities will succeed. Nothing coming out of today’s “scientific” community can be trusted these days, except maybe Astrophysics and Mathematics. Biology, sociology, anthropology, psychology, hell even medicine, have been completely taken over by the woke left. Others by corporate or personal financial interest. Just let them all die.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
3 months ago
Reply to  Danny D

So I am afraid has STEM.
My son had to be lectured on white male physics

Johann Strauss
Johann Strauss
3 months ago

Well perhaps because the greatest physicists of all time were white. You know, Newton, Maxwell, Faraday, Einstein, Dirac, Feynman. Perhaps get over it as these were some of the greatest minds that have walked our tiny earth.

Andrew Dalton
Andrew Dalton
3 months ago
Reply to  Johann Strauss

I’m more curious as to how physics is different if the physicists are a different sex or colour. If Einstein was black, would C be different? If Schrodinger was a woman, would quantum physics make sense?

Yes, sometimes the “man” behind the science is interesting, but that really isn’t why most people have any interest in science.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
3 months ago
Reply to  Johann Strauss

Just because it does not make sense does not mean to say it cannot be an enforced ideology and anyone questioning faith will mark themselves out for censure.
As to what you say about Newton, Maxwell, Faraday, Einstein, Dirac (I would not include Feynman) from a progressive view point you have just proved the case against you. There are no blacks or womin or womin of colour so by definition white men have excluded everyone else.
My son’s response was I think you will find that its Jew physics

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
3 months ago

So, how do white male physics differ from any other kind?

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
3 months ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

That is not how the progressive argument works.
It goes that because historically substantially all top of the run physicists are white and male this is irrefutable proof that blacks, womin, and womin of colour have been excluded. If they had not been excluded then the list would include a proper proportion of blacks, womin, and womin of colour.
Hell they probably claim that the laws of physics would actually be different had the ranks of physicists included the right number of lacks, womin, and womin of colour. Newton’s laws of motion would not have been quite so fascist, the laws of physics would not have allowed the creation of the atomic bomb. This last paragraph was only partly in jest

Rex Adams
Rex Adams
3 months ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

Hitler referred to it as Jewish physics.

Shrunken Genepool
Shrunken Genepool
3 months ago
Reply to  Leigh A

As an insider, I agree. They are broken. The hyper-progressive ideologues and diversity hires are tenured for 40 years. The grip of the progressive bureaucracies is unshakeable. The only leverage point a conservative government might have is research funding.

Susan Grabston
Susan Grabston
3 months ago

I am increasingly peesuaded that the difference between conspiracy theory and reality is about 2 years and getting shorter. I eetainly no longer automatically dismiss them as “noise”.

Simon S
Simon S
3 months ago
Reply to  Susan Grabston

Rather longer in the case of the actual jabs, whose safety and effectiveness not even Unherd seems to dare to challenge

Peter Principle
Peter Principle
3 months ago

Many thanks to Ian Birrell for this piece. Rambaut, Daszak, Farrar and co. pulled of a master-stroke in the dark arts by asserting that lab-leak was a “conspiracy theory”. A conspiracy is a secret agreement between parties to achieve some goal, but lab-leak implies neither a secret agreement nor a goal. Lab-leak is a c*ck-up theory, not a conspiracy theory.

Mike Downing
Mike Downing
3 months ago

I used to have respect for the Wellcome Trust (see Farrar) as it seemed to be one of the few remaining world-class British outfits but not any more.

In R F Kennedy’s book ‘The real Anthony Fauci ‘ (if you haven’t read this yet, make it a New Year’s resolution) I discovered that during the AIDS pandemic (a dry run for the latest in many awful respects), Burroughs Wellcome were simultaneously pushing their novel therapeutic AZT (which had no efficacy whatsoever and was so toxic – cancer inducing in fact ; sound familiar ? – it killed you faster than the virus) and party drug amyl nitrate (aka ‘Poppers’ for which it still had a worldwide patent as the treatment for angina, but was suspected by many to be a contributing factor in AIDS and at the very least was known to be damaging to the immune system).

But that didn’t stop them making shed loads of money out of both during the worldwide panic (sound familiar?) and it transformed the fortunes of the company from a small, sleepy UK also-ran to a world leader (tadddah; just don’t mention the collateral damage). Just like Biogen and Moderna (ask dear Jonathan Van-Tam – he knows a good screw when he sees one).

I was always quite cynical about the world but would pinch myself periodically and tell myself it was in fact a glass half-full not empty.

How foolish I was.

Shrunken Genepool
Shrunken Genepool
3 months ago
Reply to  Mike Downing

Welcome Trust is as broken as the British Museum or the National Trust – and let’s not talk about Girl Guides, or the Anglican Church. I’d like to say the Catholics were immune but…..sadly not.

David Colquhoun
David Colquhoun
3 months ago
Reply to  Mike Downing

Oh dear!
The Wellcome Trust was founded in 1936, as a charitable organisation, separate from the drug company. Originally, shares in the drug company gave it some of its income, but they were sold off in 1986. For nearly 40 years the Trust has had nothing to do with the drug company.
The Trust funds a great deal of top class research.

Mike Downing
Mike Downing
3 months ago

So where does its money come from ? Not out of thin air, I assume ? Being a charity is no guarantee of ethical behaviour any more (see Oxfam scandals etc) and many are set up as influence-laundering entities to generate desired outcomes for big bucks.

In a world where the impact investment of Bill Gates can be termed ‘philanthropy’, charitable status now means nothing in terms of ethical behaviour.

David Jory
David Jory
3 months ago
Reply to  Mike Downing

And,as you know from the book,but didn’t write, Anthony Fauci was also instrumental in pushing that.
He has a claim to being the most harmful scientist ever.

Karl Juhnke
Karl Juhnke
3 months ago

Thank you Ian for your great work.

Katja Sipple
Katja Sipple
3 months ago

A laboratory leak has always been the most likely explanation. I have been taking this position ever since news of Covid-19 first broke in January of 2020, and I have seen/read/heard nothing to convince me otherwise.

Johann Strauss
Johann Strauss
3 months ago
Reply to  Katja Sipple

Indeed. A simple application of Occam’s Razor makes the lab leak the most plausible hypothesis. And a lab leak doesn’t rule out a natural origin for the leaked virus either given that they were collected these viruses from bat caves.

Andrew Dalton
Andrew Dalton
3 months ago
Reply to  Johann Strauss

Yes, but the trick was to conflate various speculation regarding GoF research with a/the leak.
The reality is GoF research may have occurred without a leak (or a leak specifically leading to the SARS-CoV2 outbreak).
No GoF research (at least related to this outbreak) but a leak did occur.
Both the research and the leak occurred.
Neither; the virus was entirely zoonotic.

Considering we have to deal with the enormous mountain of opaque obfuscation, it’s rather hard to prove anything.
From the various FOIA leaks we have seen, I certainly think plenty of powerful actors fear the possibility this was a leak of GoF research material.
Faucci himself certainly entertains the possibility of a lab leak, although it does depend what the day of the week he’s asked the question.

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
3 months ago
Reply to  Katja Sipple

Same.

Danny D
Danny D
3 months ago

> statement published in The Lancet early in the pandemic that condemned “conspiracy theories suggesting that Covid-19 does not have a natural origin” and ridiculously ***praised Beijing for “rapid, open and transparent” sharing of data***. It was signed by 27 experts, including Farrar and two Wellcome Trust colleagues.

Yeah these guys definitely have a hidden agenda.

AC Harper
AC Harper
3 months ago

Public perception appears to be swinging behind the ‘lab leak’ theory, whether it is true or not. It seems more likely to me than not.
Now perhaps we are seeing the public beginning to question the wisdom of lockdowns and the imposition of previously untried vaccines. I too poo poohed the Great Barrington Declaration at the time, but it now seems rather sensible – the authors said that, instead of protecting everyone, the focus should instead be on “shielding” those most at risk, with few mandatory restrictions placed on the remainder of the population.
My somewhat cynical take on the Covid-19 Inquiry is that it is intended to delay investigation until the lab-leak theory and criticism of lockdowns become a matter of casual knowledge and therefore unremarkable.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
3 months ago
Reply to  AC Harper

HOLE IN ONE SIR!

Fredrich Nicecar
Fredrich Nicecar
3 months ago
Reply to  AC Harper

Not that it mattered to anyone but I signed the GBD as soon as it was published. I am pleased that you have come round.

AC Harper
AC Harper
3 months ago

It’s interesting that my initial reaction to the GBD was, on reflection, conditioned by the Pandemic Mindset that was front and centre at the time. I used to consider myself not easily fooled but I now know that an authoritative consensus has great power to convince.
I leave it as an exercise for others to consider what other authoritative consensuses have feet of clay.

Bruni Schling
Bruni Schling
3 months ago

I did too.

Andrew Horsman
Andrew Horsman
3 months ago
Reply to  AC Harper

The danger for the monied interests (Big Tech, Pharma, and their clients in governments and public authorities) is when it becomes an unspoken but near universally acknowledged fact that the so-called vaccines were certainly not effective, nor were they particularly safe. Pretty much everyone now knows someone, often multiple people, of their acquaintance who were harmed in some way by them. Uptake of “boosters”, that outrageously are still on offer to few remaining unwitting members of the general public, is very low.

At some point, like Post Office scandal, this will all crystallise into a political backlash, the nature of which is difficult to predict. But they have for sure lost control of the narrative, and the “dangerous anti-vaxxer” trope that they trot out to besmirch those with the courage to point out that the Emperor is stark naked has worn so thin that even the most slavish adherent to the “BBC” worldview, including those whose salaries depend on it, can see straight through it and through the “Covid Inquiry” whitewashing. Which is why so many people are looking away.

The problem is that a dying beast is most dangerous when it is cornered and out of options other than to viciously, even if futilely, lash out. There could bad times ahead before the corner is properly turned, but ultimately love triumphs over fear, every time.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
3 months ago

At formal Oxbridge dinners only members of Oxford, Cambridge, and Trinity Dublin may wear academic gowns.

Members of Sc*tch Universities may NOT despite the fact that two*of their universities predate Trinity Dublin. Reading this essay one can understand why!

(* St Andrews and Glasgow.)

Roger Paton
Roger Paton
3 months ago

Idiot!

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
3 months ago
Reply to  Roger Paton

QED!

Michael James
Michael James
3 months ago

We have to rely on freelance journalists and commercial media producers these days as state-funded institutions decline into dogma, careerism and cover-up.

Andrew Horsman
Andrew Horsman
3 months ago

It seems clear that something escaped from the Wuhan lab some time in 2019. It seems highly unlikely to have been a unique freak event given the lax security and it would be extraordinary if other leaks hadn’t happen before or since then.

But, whether it did leak or not, might be to miss the bigger picture? Remember that the deadliness of the SARS-CoV-2 is, and was known to be, similar to seasonal flu. This was aptly demonstrated by the Diamond Princess, a cruise ship containing thousands of mostly elderly, supposedly immuni-naive, people, and only a small handful of deaths. The useless PCR tests, which Drosten had an outrageous conflict of interest in, were ready to roll in January 2020, days after the supposed identification of the virus. The high medical establishment knew all of this. The politicians they advised knew all of this. They knew that lockdowns, social distancing, masks etc etc wouldn’t make any meaningful difference simply because people ALWAYS die in winter of seasonal flu-like viruses. Hence the initial reticence to go along with the whole pantomime in the UK and elsewhere.

Any seasonal flu-like virus would have served the purpose, which was to ramp up fear, prompt an overreaction that cause more death and suffering (intubation of patients who could breath for themselves on “safety” grounds? Diazepam? Fear-laden, anxiety-inducing propaganda? Stay at home and get no Vitamin D? Sudden collapse of familial and social support networks, loneliness and despair? Vulnerable old and young people left with abusers alone at home? Disregard of long established hospital and emergency services protocols? Emptying out of historical wards in to care / death homes? Time wasted in first responders donning “PPE” while patients died at home?). The response was guaranteed to drive more fear, and an even more deadly response and spiral – and desperation for the “way out” in the form of a “vaccine”. The virus itself did not do the most part of the damage, and nor could any respiratory virus – viruses that incapacitate and kill most of their victims tend not to spread very far, for obvious reasons.

Why would the fearful, deluded, clever, selfish, narcissistic, greedy control-freaks behind all of this do it? Because they have a grand plan to save mankind (and the planet) through consolidation of power at the global level, the abolition (or “reimagination”) of the individual as we know it, and personal and societal salvation through transformative extropian technology to extend human lifespans significantly, which needs to be test driven and mass-experimented. An incidental effect of which is of course to make themselves very rich or, more accurately, even richer. Problem, reaction, solution. A simple playbook that been running for a century or more.

Ian Birrell’s investigative journalism on the origins of this particular virus is a fine thing. But I would encourage him and those who follow him to look up and look around.

Ken Bowman
Ken Bowman
3 months ago
Reply to  Andrew Horsman

You cite the Diamond Princess evidence but was there not a high incidence of deaths in some old people’s homes?

Andrew Horsman
Andrew Horsman
3 months ago
Reply to  Ken Bowman

Yes. It was a bad flu season. Sadly people in old people’s homes do have a high propensity to die.

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
3 months ago

Meanwhile, the WEF – which is meeting this week – lists mis and disinformation as the leading concerns of the day, right along with climate, so you know they’re serious. What they’re serious about is another matter. The group, like this university, is not concerned with accurate information; it’s concerned with controlling narratives and attacking the heretics who do not blindly follow. Unfortunately, the robust press of all has reduced itself to stenographer status, eager to trumpet the next govt-issued press release as gospel to be accepted without question.
The lack of journalistic curiosity over Covid may beat all I’ve seen, even more than the casual dismissal of having what amounts to a husk of a man as the presumed leader of the free world. Then again, much of the media is meekly obliging the censorship industrial complex, when not carrying its water. Because these people are not reporters, they are activists. That became obvious when Obama ran, a man whose resume included a speech and a history of voting present. It’s only gotten worse.

David Colquhoun
David Colquhoun
3 months ago

The fact of the matter is that it’s impossible to decide where a virus originated by looking at its sequence. That’s why there is no justification for heated rants, like this one. We shall probably never know for certain where it came from. And even if we did that wouldn’t help us to cope with the pandemic.

Simon Blanchard
Simon Blanchard
3 months ago

True enough. But the issue here is who lied and why?

Liakoura
Liakoura
3 months ago

“Among these experts was Rambaut, who ran the online site that first published the Sars-CoV-2 genome after it was leaked by a brave Chinese scientist in early 2020 in tandem with their mutual friend Eddie Holmes, a Sydney-based British virologist.”
In “The Truth about Dramatic Action” dated 27 January 2020 is the following:
“On January 11, [2020] on the basis of the latest research developments in Beijing and Shanghai, China officially confirmed that this new coronavirus was the pathogen causing the Wuhan pneumonia epidemic, and it shared the new coronavirus gene sequence information with the WHO.
https://chinamediaproject.org/2020/01/27/dramatic-actions/
And later in the same article which is still the most comprehensive account of the first few weeks that I have read:
“According to reports from Caixin Media, one of China’s leading professional news outlets, the entire situation began on December 8, with the discovery of the first known case of an infected patient in Wuhan, a stall operator from the Huanan Seafood Market. The Huanan Seafood Market is a large-scale wet market, with an area about the size of seven football pitches and more than 1,000 stalls. The market has a constant flow of customers, making it the ideal place for the spread of infectious disease. A seafood market only in name, it sells a wide array of live animals, including hedgehogs, civet cats, peacocks, bamboo rats and other types of wild animals. At this market, the nearly inexhaustible appetite, and insatiable greed and curiosity of Chinese diners is on full display.
The number of infected people rose rapidly, reaching 27 people within a short period of time. Health professionals in Wuhan began suspecting in early December that this was an unknown infectious disease, not unlike the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) that emerged in southern China in 2003. The ghost of SARS seemed to wander Wuhan in December, and rumors spread farther and farther afield of a new disease on the prowl.”
The writer mentions the “Mojiang miners incident” but fails to mention that this happened in 2012, almost eight years before the outbreak in Wuhan that was to become the Covid-19 pandemic.

Michael Miles
Michael Miles
3 months ago

How can there be accountability of anyone if an investigation might “endanger the physical or mental health or safety of an individual”?

Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
3 months ago

Should be, should not be, but they are.

David Walters
David Walters
3 months ago

Their refusal to disclose the information tells us all we need to know really. The sad fact is that scientists in so many fields now are happy to go along with their financial backers and are happy to publish garbage. The obvious example is around climate change. 97% of climate scientists believe the science is irrefutable. No they don’t- they just want funding and a job. I am surprised they didn’t say 100% but I suppose that would be stretching the public’s naivety a little too far

Wayne Kitcat
Wayne Kitcat
3 months ago

What is so egregious here is that the gain of function work was regarded as too dangerous to continue in the US so the US effectively financed the work in Wuhan in the only lab in China that supposedly was equipped to take on this sort of work, BUT nobody in the US or even the French who built the lab was ever allowed to inspect it and make sure that the correct protocols and procedures were being used to a avoid viral escape!! So we can thank the US for Covid, but never fear American big pharma has done very nicely thank you, only problem is the damage that the vaccines are doing to our long term health. https://www.youtube.com/live/EoMH2R0vVxM?si=igstu60dVptTTA89

David Jory
David Jory
3 months ago

Ironic that Edinburgh University appears to be mildly dyslexic. When they said they wanted to protect Rambaut’s ‘health and safety’ they meant ‘wealth and safety’.

Doug Mccaully
Doug Mccaully
3 months ago

Did you know that covid 19 has been found in lions, tigers, cats, dogs, mink, gorillas, pangolins, civet cats, racoons? Possibly they caught it from us but the point is lots of species can act as go betweens between species. Lots of racoon farms in China, wet market in Wuhan, all sorts of wild animals there. Catch my drift? You’re welcome.

john d rockemella
john d rockemella
3 months ago

Academia, is the like the nazi party! Secret experiments, and not caring about human life! Remember the means justify the ends to some of these people. No empathy or human compassion. Scientists and academics need to be held under a tight leash!

Niall Cusack
Niall Cusack
3 months ago

Is anyone going to protest at the suppression of my comment on
Martin McGuinness and the Queen? I was there

Doug Mccaully
Doug Mccaully
3 months ago
Reply to  Niall Cusack

I’ll join you in your protest, its hypocritical to call yourself Unherd and then ban people from being herd for no observable reason. My subscription for Unherd is nearly up, I might try one for Mad Magazine or Beatrix Potter Monthly. At least there’s less pretending to be a beacon of balance and free speech in those titles. I won’t miss Unherd and I doubt they’ll miss me.

William Brand
William Brand
2 months ago

Money talks and China has the money. In addition, China’s military and spies made it clear that any questioning of China’s germ warfare plans could result in nuclear war.

William Brand
William Brand
2 months ago

The major question is whether or not China deliberately genetically engineered and released the virus in an attempt to weaken its enemies. The major damage to the Chinese economy tends to indicate that it was an accident. Is there a possibility that China was vaccinating its population with Covid against a planned future virus that will destroy the white race? Smallpox destroyed the American Indian allowing the Spanish conquest of Mexico and Peru. Can China develop a virus that will kill off its enemies while sparing its own population. It must not be an obvious attack lest germs be retaliated against with nuclear weapons.