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ChilblainEdwardOlmos
ChilblainEdwardOlmos
4 months ago

Good thing Biden put the USA’s vast resources into prosecuting rioters in a search for the boogieman of “white supremacy” while throwing all those billions into an futile proxy war which could easily been averted by diplomacy,after abandoning billions of USD worth of armaments and military hardware in Afghanistan for the Taliban to freely acquire after sinking Trillions into half heartedly fighting a tribal society that while contemptible still never attacked the USA anywhere but in their own native country as a response to being invaded. Blinken, Nuland, & Nod are quite the strategists. Here we are.

jane baker
jane baker
4 months ago

It’s almost like the chaos is plotted like a Hollywood movie.

Mark Kennedy
Mark Kennedy
4 months ago
Reply to  jane baker

…if the movie were a black comedy.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
4 months ago
Reply to  jane baker

I doubt any Hollywood scriptwriter would be able to make this up

Steve Jolly
Steve Jolly
4 months ago

And even if they did, any studio executive would laugh and tell them that even if the audience did buy into the ridiculous nonsensical plot, they would never sympathize with the gaggle of bumbling idiots that the main characters appear to be.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
4 months ago

I’m sure if we speak to them nicely, they’ll put down their weapons and sing ‘Kumbaya’. 😉

jane baker
jane baker
4 months ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

What weapons. A few little stingers that our high tech sophisticated shipping is not that vulnerable to. If it is then someone’s asleep at work.

David George
David George
4 months ago
Reply to  jane baker

Merchant shipping has no defense against “A few little stingers” AFAIK

Jae
Jae
4 months ago
Reply to  jane baker

Are you serious? Do you know how many US armaments were left behind in Afghanistan? Clearly not, or hopefully you wouldn’t post as you did.

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
4 months ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

In today’s article on Ukraine, you commented:
“This war should stop. No more.”
Despite that not being a particularly ‘helpful’ observation, does that mean you’d be in favour of a negotiated settlement?
How would that align with your view, expressed here, that we shouldn’t negotiate with offensive warmongers?

Tad Pringle
Tad Pringle
4 months ago

“and kill them wherever you find them” is straight out of the Quran, and is a requirement for devout Muslims to fulfill. It took two guys to write the article and they couldn’t (or wouldn’t) provide citation. Must try harder.

Sayantani Gupta
Sayantani Gupta
4 months ago
Reply to  Tad Pringle

They didn’t write a lot more which I have pointed out and which as per usual UH practice nowadays is ” on ice”.

jane baker
jane baker
4 months ago

As a Brit it’s going to be so good (not) when our lobbing of some explosive at those people who I don’t know anything about and dont care,goes all wrong,gets ISIS in whatever form popular again and we end up looking stupid and worse off than before. I can’t believe these missiles they were launching were any more than annoying pinpricks like the Hamas ones to Israel. It’s all just an excuse. And it will all blow up in our faces.

Jae
Jae
4 months ago
Reply to  jane baker

Your posts are demonstrating you don’t know a lot about anything I’m afraid.

Alan Gore
Alan Gore
4 months ago
Reply to  jane baker

If you call Holocaust 2.0 a pinprick, then it’s pretty evident which side you’re on.

Sayantani Gupta
Sayantani Gupta
4 months ago

The links of ISKP with the ” P” state are well known. Is it a surprise that the most trenchant attacks on moderate Arab State rulers like MBS and Zayed are emanating from there?
Is it also startling that the same lot frequently visits the reigning global leader and it’s warmongerers?
The article goes half way but not full for obvious reasons in its analysis.

rupert carnegie
rupert carnegie
4 months ago

The Pakistani’s have reportedly fallen out with the Taliban. Does that mean they are recoiling from all Islamist groups? or that ISI is in the market for new groups to support?

Sayantani Gupta
Sayantani Gupta
4 months ago

The latter. Munir the army chief accompanied by the ISI boss met all who mattered Stateside.( Besides expensive house hunting)
The Iran blasts, further tensions on the border with India, calls for ” internationalising” Mecca etc and calling MBS and Zayed out as supportive of ” kafirs” are some of the effects of assured ” support”.
Whether this is a new game of playing off all against each other or a 3d chess game along with CCP is still ” smoke and mirrors”.

Dick Barrett
Dick Barrett
4 months ago

Hamas and the Houthis may have emboldened Isis, but the UK, US and EU have emboldened the Zionists. Both these emboldenments are bad news.

rupert carnegie
rupert carnegie
4 months ago
Reply to  Dick Barrett

I agree. I think it would be in the national interest if the UK took a more balanced approach.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
4 months ago

“A plague on both your houses.”*

(* R&J.)

Jae
Jae
4 months ago

“Balanced approach” because as I said above the “Zionists” are the ones who are driving down the streets of cities ramming cars into innocent bystanders and walking across bridges slicing people with knives and swords. It’s the Zionists who are blowing up busses and tall buildings killing thousands of citizens, even its own citizens, across the world. It’s the Zionists who kill Gay people by throwing them off high buildings or hanging them from cranes, after torturing them for days. It’s the Zionists beaheading innocents and posting it to social media to teach us all a lesson. It’s the Zionists whose societies demean women and oppress them. It’s the Zionists who drug crazed are raping, torturing and killing women, children and grandmothers and posting it online for their families to see. It’s the Zionists who take innocents as hostages and brutalise them so they can’t actually release them in case they tell their stories.

Honestly the ignorance of actual, real threats to society today is palpable.

Jae
Jae
4 months ago
Reply to  Dick Barrett

Because the “Zionists” are the ones who are driving down the streets of cities ramming cars into innocent bystanders and walking across bridges slicing people with knives and swords. It’s the Zionists who are blowing up busses and tall buildings killing thousands of citizens, even its own citizens, across the world. It’s the Zionists who kill Gay people by throwing them off high buildings or hanging them from cranes, after torturing them for days. It’s the Zionists beaheading innocents and posting it to social media to teach us all a lesson. It’s the Zionists whose societies demean women and oppress them. It’s the Zionists who drug crazed are raping, torturing and killing women, children and grandmothers and posting it online for their families to see. It’s the Zionists who take innocents as hostages and brutalise them so they can’t actually release them in case they tell their stories.

Honestly the ignorance of actual, real threats to society today is palpable.

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
4 months ago

At some point, it will dawn on someone with even a modicum of power that Western values and Islam cannot co-exist. We tried. It failed. That’s not going to change. When people choose to live in a 9th century mindset that justifies atrocities, there can be no negotiation, there can be no peace, and there should be as little interaction as possible. And that’s aside from the Israel/Gaza conflict.
Within a week of October 7, these calls appeared to bear fruit
This is the mindset being faced. They’re not like us. They are never going to be like us. They don’t want to be us. Yet, we keep importing them in droves, then clutching our pearls when they fail to assimilate into our societies and become part of the landscape.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
4 months ago
Reply to  Alex Lekas

Aliens.

Jae
Jae
4 months ago

Everyone with half a brain can thank the Biden administration and its shadowy puppet masters who are actually making the decisions for the shambles we’re in around the world. They and they alone are responsible for setting the Middle East on fire – again. They enrich themselves every time it happens.

Mrs R
Mrs R
4 months ago
Reply to  Jae

They are the real enemy.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
4 months ago
Reply to  Jae

Uh, I think you mean George W. Bush, d**k Cheney and company.

j watson
j watson
4 months ago

No real surprise. These terrorist, death Cults are inevitably like the Classical Hydra monster with multiple heads and they will inevitably feed off each other too. Containment is probably all that is possible and we have to be up to that and not simplistically think some magic bullet would solve the problem.
What’s also crucial is we don’t drift into a broader Islamophobia because of these sorts. That is exactly what they want. So if you do you are essentially doing their work for them.

Simon Boudewijn
Simon Boudewijn
4 months ago

”The attacks and high number of foiled plots in the West signal that these trends will persist. Combined with Western security and intelligence resources stretched”

I trust the ‘Western Intelligence and Security’ as far as…. well, actually not at all.

Jan 6 is proving to be a setup by the FBI/CIA/NSA/White House…. It was a trap they built and sprung to create political prisoners to fill gulags – ”POUR ENCOURAGER LES AUTRES” and strike fear in the hearts of any Trump Supporter – same as his show trials.

So – you list an endless list of plots foiled – WOW, do these guys get drunk and brag down the pub about their plans for terror?

To me it seems the ‘Security Services, perhaps looking for a reason for their budget on Internal Surveillance (which is really, Post the 9/11, their main raison d’etre; they are there as Political Police) – Perhaps they find stupid and lost youth and feed them a bunch of crazy radical stuff – film them saying what they wish to do – swoop on them and arrest them – like they did with the Jan 6 guys.

How else do they catch them almost every time????? Is that not odd?

seems pretty suspicious…..

ChilblainEdwardOlmos
ChilblainEdwardOlmos
4 months ago

Spot on.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
4 months ago

January 6 was a set up of American intelligence? So they managed to lure thousands of MAGAs to Washington and made trump tell them to go to the Capitol? The FBI made the surging crowd injure 180 cops? The CIA made the MAGAs deface priceless paintings and smear feces on the walls of the Capitol? Did the FBI build the platform with a noose? Wow, who new intelligence was that powerful? Kind of like magical wizards controlling innocent people and directing them to commit violence.

Michael Layman
Michael Layman
3 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

I cannot disagree with your comments, except 180 cops “injured”, seems unlikely. However, one protester murdered for non-violent action.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
4 months ago

Not today, not tomorrow or even the next day but SOON there will be major Islamic atrocity in Europe, a veritable ‘slaughter of the innocents’. There will be much “weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth “ but actually we have brought it on ourselves.

Sadly these islamic cretins are incapable of emulating their renowned predecessors the ASSASSINS and thus slaughter the innocent which avails them NOTHING. Why can’t they wake up?

Matthew Jones
Matthew Jones
3 months ago

There is a spiritual struggle underlying current international geopolitics, and it is getting more and more explicit. Even to the point where some of the increasingly irrelevant professional atheists have come to recognise it.

The enemy is starting to bring together it’s various abominations in to one awful coalition. From a secular point of view the budding allegiance between pink haired perverts on University campuses, muslim warlords with big beards and AK-47s, and autocratic dictators makes no sense, but if you just ask who their shared enemy is, it makes perfect sense.

So, if you aren’t already, get to church. God won’t lose.

Michael Layman
Michael Layman
3 months ago

ISIS and other extremist groups will never go away. The only option is continued covert action by western powers(ie we never hear about it), that keeps them at bay. There can be no reconciliation.