I agree with him that Hollywood appears to be dead. The rot seems to be so deep I doubt it can reverse its current trend. I’m still amazed that, in the name of “progressivism”, studios continue to sink so much money into boring, ideologically-driven movies people don’t want to watch.
As an aside, Mamet might be a distinguished playwright but he is certainly also a loudmouth, and not always in a good way. He happily trashed small theatre groups and the people who write for them. I wonder if he knew that Flo Read is (or was) a playwright and had at least one play performed at the Edinburgh Fringe. Perhaps he’d also deride that festival.
He’s definitely a loud mouth, no question about that. I thought it was kind of humorous, but I can see how he could rub people the wrong way. One thing is certain – you will always know his opinion.
I agree with a lot of his rants and I hate that, because he’s clearly an artistically dead, grumpy old man who can’t go gracefully into obscurity so he does the one thing his breed can do: rail against everything and everyone.
Even if he’s right, it moves the world not an iota forward.
FDR was one of if not the person that started the rot and is a candidate for worst President.
Just like JFK he has been mythologised by the left
However, Trump is only the best President since Nixon
FDR was one of the worst. His economic policies for the New Deal and to handle the depression made things much worse and his increase in the level of state intervention had long term political repercussions still felt today.
Except he didn’t do that. The Soviets took over the Baltics in 1940, before the U.S. was even in the war. By war’s end in 1945, they were already deeply entrenched. Nothing the U.S. could have done at that point, short of initiating another war in Europe that they could quite possibly lose.
A D Kent
8 months ago
One more time for the hard of thinking: PMC Liberals are not the Left.
Having said that I’ll give him that the US Left is small and marginalised. But you can find it if you look. Try Jimmy Dore, Glen Greenwald, Chris Hedges, Whitney Webb, Katie Halper (and her many guestes). It’s at outlets like NakedCapitalism, ConsortiumNews, The Grayzone, ScheerPost, CommonDreams, the WSWS and Jacobin. None of these outlets are perfect, none idiologically pure, but they’re not slaves to the Laptop Class – and that’s who Mamet is railing against here.
ost of all, the Left are the small groups of workers across the country attempting to Unionise caring not whether their co-workers voted Trump, Biden or not at all (the latter being the largest group in that increasingly disfunctional country of theirs).
Chris Whybrow
8 months ago
The Singapore of the Middle East? Does Malaysia impose a naval blockade on Singapore and control all food and medical supplies that go in? If a Singaporean terrorist group murdered and abducted a thousand Malaysians, would Malaysia respond by dropping millions of dollars worth of unguided munitions on Singapore and kill ten thousand children? You know what? Whatever. At least he has enough brain cells to tell the Gaza Strip and the West Bank apart.
If a Singaporean terrorist group murdered and abducted a thousand Malaysians, would Malaysia respond by dropping millions of dollars worth of unguided munitions on Singapore and kill ten thousand children?
Pn, yes. Because on the one hand we are told Gaza has no electricity etc, yet Hamas manages to come up with precise figures at the drop of the hat. When the Israel’s were falsely accused of dropping bombs on that hospital, in less than an hour, Hamas came up with a figure of 500 people killed, women and children, bla, bla.The real figure was less than a hundred. So I think we should divide the Hamas figures by five to come up with an approximate number
A wise man once said things really become bad when the obvious needs to be explained. There was a time when Jews were hoping to live together with Arabs in peace. Jews lived in Gaza for decades and the weather was so right they grew crops and made millions exporting them. But Arab violence became bothersome and international pressure was great so Israel okayed a land-for-peace experiment and forced every Jew to leave.
Soon after a group of Arabs came from Ramallah to help govern but they were killed. Hamas won control and won an election. 70% voted for them. Immediately they wrote a charter which included a mandate to kill Jews like genocide. It’s online somewhere. Jews took this threat seriously, started inspecting boats and discovered weapons. After a few discoveries like this, everything going into Gaza that Israel could see was inspected for weapons.
That’s why Hamas went underground. Because of all the Jew haters out there the international community gave Hamas millions of dollars and euros, cement, pipes and other construction materials to build their new state. They could have built electric plants and water works but rather they used the money for tunnels and Israel was coerced into supplying electricity and water to them. The cement and pipes went to build tunnels and rockets. Israel has just discovered rocket making factories and Hamas has been launching rockets at Jews for years. Israel was very good to them.
The Hamas charter is older than their governance of Gaza, dating to the 1980’s. The people of Gaza chose an organization with a charter, a large section of which sounds like it was originally written in German circa 1935 and translated into Arabic, as their government in preference to the Palestinian Authority.
I love this…..”A wise man once said things really become bad when the obvious needs to be explained.”
However,in today’s social media-driven dystopia both sides cling to what is obvious to them only, as they are being given completely different information.
The point was the contrafactual of a Gaza run since 2005 by people looking out for the welfare of those living there, rather than devoting all their resources their hatred of Jews (yes, Jews qua Jews, not Israelis, not Zionists, Jews. Read the Hamas Charter if you doubt me). Had all the aid given Gaza for economic development been used to build desalination plants, greenhouses, tourism infrastructure, a tech sector instead of tunnels and rockets, the Singapore of the Middle East is what would have resulted.
Singapore has an average IQ of 108, one of the highest in the world. Gaza mid-80s per numerous studies. Gaza was never going to become another Singapore unless Israelis built it for them.
You are joking. If the Singaporean government, (Hamas is the government in Gaza, not a terrorist group) killed over a thousand Malaysians, Singapore would be wiped off the face of the earth. But no one, absolutely no one, would say much of anything, because they are not Jews. Don’t be an idiot.
Anthony Roe
8 months ago
Good to have some red meat thrown into the cage now and then. Too many commentators run around the walls like a cat when you turn on the hoover, then produce a rabbit droping.
Also he has the medals and scars of a true soldier.
I like red meat and my favorite takeaway is Mamet’s comment on “cancel culture”. It makes us limit our thoughts because we don’t want to be hypocrites. The final stage of self-censorship.
I love this guy! My candidate flamed out in the primaries last week, but Mamet makes me feel a little better about Donald Trump. If only he had the vision that Mamet credits him with.
Steven Targett
8 months ago
I’d have to say I agree with everything he says. The woke left is a poisonous cancer on our society.
Katharine Eyre
8 months ago
“But because the liberals cannot defend their position, all they can do is indict Trump. He’s not generating anger. He’s talking to reason.”
First prize in today’s competition for sentences that start off with common sense and then plunge into absurdity at lightening speed.
How is Trump not generating anger? He’s like a red rag to a bull to so many people.
Trump talking reason? He might have a point about some stuff, but the crass and often incoherent way in which he communicates makes it exceedingly hard to use the word “reason” in connection with him.
here are Pres. Trump’s words verbatim.
“A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?”
One needs to read to whole conversation to understand it completely.
Is that all he said, Petey?!?! Really? He didn’t say anything about disinfectant?
You may be able to fool your right wing buddies but you can’t fool me!
KE – I suspect it is realised that people like yourself are never going to go back to the actual transcript, so they can lie and deceive and get believed. Perhaps you could give me a couple of cases where that is not the case. See above for the ‘drinking detergent’ quote.
But that’s not the whole quote, is it Petey?!?!?
You want me to post the rest of your clown prince’s quote? It really is spectacularly stupid – but what else would you expect from an idiot like Trump?
Actually I do. I’m interest in the truth. I just wonder how it compares with most of your comments. All I do know is that Biden’s comments on Trump discussion were 4 pinocchios’ by fact checkers.
ps You are of course aware that disinfectants are used in drinking water?
“And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning”
I wonder how many Trump cult members actually tried injecting themselves with bleach after this? You know that some did! They are that dumb, just like their cult leader!
Dimbo and his fellow dimbos appear to believe that the only type of disinfectant is bleach. What they did was use a most toxic disinfectant to alter his words, as they routinely do. Nobody drank bleach because Trump said something about disinfectant, not that he was giving medical advice anyway. Too stupid.
The most terrible thing in the world was the idea that there were certain crimes which are hate crimes.
Once you start to politicize crime, it’s a short to politicizing speech, which is where we are. What used to be called political correctness has morphed into the far more strident woke movement which is more likely to double down in the face of resistance than back off.
There is no hate speech, either, just speech that some folks may not like or disagree with or find offensive. And this is where Mamet is dead accurate about cancel culture. The new Jacobins/brown shirts are no different than the old. They’ve just not reached the next stage of either preceding movement.
Blair’s so called Hate Crimes Bill signalled the lurch in a very wrong direction.
Ardath Blauvelt
8 months ago
A precious breath of fresh air.
Thank you.
David Yetter
8 months ago
Actually, I just read an account of a love crime: that committed by George Pickering II, the father who, correctly intuiting that the physicians declaration that his son was brain-dead was wrong, pulled a gun and held off the medical staff to prevent them from disconnecting life-support. He did manage to prevent the withdrawal of life-support, served 11 months for his crime and was reunited with his son, who came out of his coma and fully recovered.
As a Catholic.. (messianic Jew?) I found this interview just beautiful and I recall the words of Pope Benedict XVI, that the Jews are “our spiritual older brothers”. Beautiful. Thanks.
You mean you don’t care, and nobody cares what an idiot cares about.
A D Kent
8 months ago
“What are the Jews doing to Gaza? Nothing. They said, take it.” – yes Dave that’s what happened, the guards left the prison, but they took all the keys.
I think that’s a mischaracterization. Let’s run with your prison analogy. It’s not uncommon for a violent offender to be put on day release or parole etc. before being granted full freedom. That’s intended to ensure they are effectively monitored and integrate peacefully back into society. After the years of enmity and violence between Jews and Arabs, it was reasonable for Israel to maintain a degree of security control over Gaza once they pulled their troops out. What did the Gazans do? They voted in Hamas that decided to turn Gaza into arguably the world’s largest terrorist base (next to South Lebanon). They could have built civil infrastructure, rather than terrorist infrastructure. October 7 highlighted, if anything, that the security controls Israel put in place were insufficient.
Except there was no prison, and there were no keys.
Alex Colchester
8 months ago
It’s interesting hearing Mamet talk about how he despises the woke cult of victimhood- how it is fascist in its oppression of dissenters- whilst simultaneously demanding that we acknowledge that Jews have been ‘The Main Character’ victim for all of history. Victims seem unable to comprehend that they can become Tyrants.
You’re right, when they aren’t tyrants they can’t understand why people call them tyrants.
Tyler Durden
8 months ago
Just wow, but then one forgets he made tough sometimes cynical plays and films.
harry storm
8 months ago
Can’t find anything to disagree with at all.
Jules Anjim
8 months ago
Yes, wokeness is a serious cultural problem, and I too look forward to its influence being substantially diluted. On all other counts, though, Mamet is just high on his own supply.
I agree with him that Hollywood appears to be dead. The rot seems to be so deep I doubt it can reverse its current trend. I’m still amazed that, in the name of “progressivism”, studios continue to sink so much money into boring, ideologically-driven movies people don’t want to watch.
As an aside, Mamet might be a distinguished playwright but he is certainly also a loudmouth, and not always in a good way. He happily trashed small theatre groups and the people who write for them. I wonder if he knew that Flo Read is (or was) a playwright and had at least one play performed at the Edinburgh Fringe. Perhaps he’d also deride that festival.
He’s definitely a loud mouth, no question about that. I thought it was kind of humorous, but I can see how he could rub people the wrong way. One thing is certain – you will always know his opinion.
I didn’t find him loud. I found him clear and lucid. Sanity.
I agree with a lot of his rants and I hate that, because he’s clearly an artistically dead, grumpy old man who can’t go gracefully into obscurity so he does the one thing his breed can do: rail against everything and everyone.
Even if he’s right, it moves the world not an iota forward.
You seem pretty curmodgeonly yourself, given that you agree with him but manage to hate that anyway,
Hopefully. The ‘theahtre’ is more narrow, exclusivist, pretentious and censorious here even than in the US. And Edinburgh is even worse than that.
Damn!!! But Trump – come on…
Maybe not best president since Lincoln, but a damn good one, esp. compared to the current one.
“Trump was the best president since Abraham Lincoln”
And FDR, what was he, a loud mouthed, lying, self obsessed nobody?
FDR was one of if not the person that started the rot and is a candidate for worst President.
Just like JFK he has been mythologised by the left
However, Trump is only the best President since Nixon
FDR was one of the worst. His economic policies for the New Deal and to handle the depression made things much worse and his increase in the level of state intervention had long term political repercussions still felt today.
My husband’s Lithuanian parents despised FDR for handing the Baltics over to the Soviet gulags.
Who could blame them – what a fate.
Except he didn’t do that. The Soviets took over the Baltics in 1940, before the U.S. was even in the war. By war’s end in 1945, they were already deeply entrenched. Nothing the U.S. could have done at that point, short of initiating another war in Europe that they could quite possibly lose.
One more time for the hard of thinking: PMC Liberals are not the Left.
Having said that I’ll give him that the US Left is small and marginalised. But you can find it if you look. Try Jimmy Dore, Glen Greenwald, Chris Hedges, Whitney Webb, Katie Halper (and her many guestes). It’s at outlets like NakedCapitalism, ConsortiumNews, The Grayzone, ScheerPost, CommonDreams, the WSWS and Jacobin. None of these outlets are perfect, none idiologically pure, but they’re not slaves to the Laptop Class – and that’s who Mamet is railing against here.
ost of all, the Left are the small groups of workers across the country attempting to Unionise caring not whether their co-workers voted Trump, Biden or not at all (the latter being the largest group in that increasingly disfunctional country of theirs).
The Singapore of the Middle East? Does Malaysia impose a naval blockade on Singapore and control all food and medical supplies that go in? If a Singaporean terrorist group murdered and abducted a thousand Malaysians, would Malaysia respond by dropping millions of dollars worth of unguided munitions on Singapore and kill ten thousand children? You know what? Whatever. At least he has enough brain cells to tell the Gaza Strip and the West Bank apart.
Yes, that was the only part of the interview that struck me as simplistic, but I guess blood is thicker than water.
Of course it was.
You betcha. Worse probably.
How would you have Malaysia respond?
Ten thousand children? Did Hamas tell you that?
Pn, yes. Because on the one hand we are told Gaza has no electricity etc, yet Hamas manages to come up with precise figures at the drop of the hat. When the Israel’s were falsely accused of dropping bombs on that hospital, in less than an hour, Hamas came up with a figure of 500 people killed, women and children, bla, bla.The real figure was less than a hundred. So I think we should divide the Hamas figures by five to come up with an approximate number
A wise man once said things really become bad when the obvious needs to be explained. There was a time when Jews were hoping to live together with Arabs in peace. Jews lived in Gaza for decades and the weather was so right they grew crops and made millions exporting them. But Arab violence became bothersome and international pressure was great so Israel okayed a land-for-peace experiment and forced every Jew to leave.
Soon after a group of Arabs came from Ramallah to help govern but they were killed. Hamas won control and won an election. 70% voted for them. Immediately they wrote a charter which included a mandate to kill Jews like genocide. It’s online somewhere. Jews took this threat seriously, started inspecting boats and discovered weapons. After a few discoveries like this, everything going into Gaza that Israel could see was inspected for weapons.
That’s why Hamas went underground. Because of all the Jew haters out there the international community gave Hamas millions of dollars and euros, cement, pipes and other construction materials to build their new state. They could have built electric plants and water works but rather they used the money for tunnels and Israel was coerced into supplying electricity and water to them. The cement and pipes went to build tunnels and rockets. Israel has just discovered rocket making factories and Hamas has been launching rockets at Jews for years. Israel was very good to them.
The Hamas charter is older than their governance of Gaza, dating to the 1980’s. The people of Gaza chose an organization with a charter, a large section of which sounds like it was originally written in German circa 1935 and translated into Arabic, as their government in preference to the Palestinian Authority.
I love this…..”A wise man once said things really become bad when the obvious needs to be explained.”
However, in today’s social media-driven dystopia both sides cling to what is obvious to them only, as they are being given completely different information.
I think he said “If they had not elected Hamas”. So your point is.. er.. pointless
The point was the contrafactual of a Gaza run since 2005 by people looking out for the welfare of those living there, rather than devoting all their resources their hatred of Jews (yes, Jews qua Jews, not Israelis, not Zionists, Jews. Read the Hamas Charter if you doubt me). Had all the aid given Gaza for economic development been used to build desalination plants, greenhouses, tourism infrastructure, a tech sector instead of tunnels and rockets, the Singapore of the Middle East is what would have resulted.
Singapore has an average IQ of 108, one of the highest in the world. Gaza mid-80s per numerous studies. Gaza was never going to become another Singapore unless Israelis built it for them.
David Yetter’s comment assumed that Gazans might have made the same choices as Singaporeans. Why they didn’t or couldn’t do so is a separate question.
That’s another story, true though.
Exaggerate a little why don’t you. And yes, they would.
You are joking. If the Singaporean government, (Hamas is the government in Gaza, not a terrorist group) killed over a thousand Malaysians, Singapore would be wiped off the face of the earth. But no one, absolutely no one, would say much of anything, because they are not Jews. Don’t be an idiot.
Good to have some red meat thrown into the cage now and then. Too many commentators run around the walls like a cat when you turn on the hoover, then produce a rabbit droping.
Also he has the medals and scars of a true soldier.
I like red meat and my favorite takeaway is Mamet’s comment on “cancel culture”. It makes us limit our thoughts because we don’t want to be hypocrites. The final stage of self-censorship.
I love this guy! My candidate flamed out in the primaries last week, but Mamet makes me feel a little better about Donald Trump. If only he had the vision that Mamet credits him with.
I’d have to say I agree with everything he says. The woke left is a poisonous cancer on our society.
“But because the liberals cannot defend their position, all they can do is indict Trump. He’s not generating anger. He’s talking to reason.”
First prize in today’s competition for sentences that start off with common sense and then plunge into absurdity at lightening speed.
How is Trump not generating anger? He’s like a red rag to a bull to so many people.
Trump talking reason? He might have a point about some stuff, but the crass and often incoherent way in which he communicates makes it exceedingly hard to use the word “reason” in connection with him.
Yes. Trump thought drinking detergent might be a good way to treat COVID.
No, he didn’t, but congratulations for glomming onto to yet another talking point. Is it time for your latest booster yet?
He literally said that.
How does it feel to be part of a cult that worships a moron?
here are Pres. Trump’s words verbatim.
“A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposedly we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. (To Bryan) And I think you said you’re going to test that, too. Sounds interesting, right?”
One needs to read to whole conversation to understand it completely.
Is that all he said, Petey?!?! Really? He didn’t say anything about disinfectant?
You may be able to fool your right wing buddies but you can’t fool me!
You’ve been fooled from the get-go.
How does it feel to be one?
Yes that one is right up there with the “good people on both sides” canard.
KE – I suspect it is realised that people like yourself are never going to go back to the actual transcript, so they can lie and deceive and get believed. Perhaps you could give me a couple of cases where that is not the case. See above for the ‘drinking detergent’ quote.
But that’s not the whole quote, is it Petey?!?!?
You want me to post the rest of your clown prince’s quote? It really is spectacularly stupid – but what else would you expect from an idiot like Trump?
Actually I do. I’m interest in the truth. I just wonder how it compares with most of your comments. All I do know is that Biden’s comments on Trump discussion were 4 pinocchios’ by fact checkers.
ps You are of course aware that disinfectants are used in drinking water?
“And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning”
I wonder how many Trump cult members actually tried injecting themselves with bleach after this? You know that some did! They are that dumb, just like their cult leader!
Dimbo and his fellow dimbos appear to believe that the only type of disinfectant is bleach. What they did was use a most toxic disinfectant to alter his words, as they routinely do. Nobody drank bleach because Trump said something about disinfectant, not that he was giving medical advice anyway. Too stupid.
Actions far more important than words.
The most terrible thing in the world was the idea that there were certain crimes which are hate crimes.
Once you start to politicize crime, it’s a short to politicizing speech, which is where we are. What used to be called political correctness has morphed into the far more strident woke movement which is more likely to double down in the face of resistance than back off.
There is no hate speech, either, just speech that some folks may not like or disagree with or find offensive. And this is where Mamet is dead accurate about cancel culture. The new Jacobins/brown shirts are no different than the old. They’ve just not reached the next stage of either preceding movement.
Blair’s so called Hate Crimes Bill signalled the lurch in a very wrong direction.
A precious breath of fresh air.
Thank you.
Actually, I just read an account of a love crime: that committed by George Pickering II, the father who, correctly intuiting that the physicians declaration that his son was brain-dead was wrong, pulled a gun and held off the medical staff to prevent them from disconnecting life-support. He did manage to prevent the withdrawal of life-support, served 11 months for his crime and was reunited with his son, who came out of his coma and fully recovered.
That’s some story.
As a Catholic.. (messianic Jew?) I found this interview just beautiful and I recall the words of Pope Benedict XVI, that the Jews are “our spiritual older brothers”. Beautiful. Thanks.
Old man yells at clouds. No one cares.
Apparently you do!
What makes you think that, old timer?
Don’t mistake me choosing to laugh at Mamet with me caring in the slightest about his rantings.
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks”
Why the (attempted) insult, do you think the commenters will think better of you?
Don’t be so sensitive, gramps!
“The lady doth protest too much, methinks”
You don’t seem to know what that means. Do you need me to explain it to you?
He samples his own product.
You mean you don’t care, and nobody cares what an idiot cares about.
“What are the Jews doing to Gaza? Nothing. They said, take it.” – yes Dave that’s what happened, the guards left the prison, but they took all the keys.
I think that’s a mischaracterization. Let’s run with your prison analogy. It’s not uncommon for a violent offender to be put on day release or parole etc. before being granted full freedom. That’s intended to ensure they are effectively monitored and integrate peacefully back into society. After the years of enmity and violence between Jews and Arabs, it was reasonable for Israel to maintain a degree of security control over Gaza once they pulled their troops out. What did the Gazans do? They voted in Hamas that decided to turn Gaza into arguably the world’s largest terrorist base (next to South Lebanon). They could have built civil infrastructure, rather than terrorist infrastructure. October 7 highlighted, if anything, that the security controls Israel put in place were insufficient.
Except there was no prison, and there were no keys.
It’s interesting hearing Mamet talk about how he despises the woke cult of victimhood- how it is fascist in its oppression of dissenters- whilst simultaneously demanding that we acknowledge that Jews have been ‘The Main Character’ victim for all of history. Victims seem unable to comprehend that they can become Tyrants.
You’re right, when they aren’t tyrants they can’t understand why people call them tyrants.
Just wow, but then one forgets he made tough sometimes cynical plays and films.
Can’t find anything to disagree with at all.
Yes, wokeness is a serious cultural problem, and I too look forward to its influence being substantially diluted. On all other counts, though, Mamet is just high on his own supply.