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Mike Forsdike
Mike Forsdike
4 months ago

I get frustrated when all today’s financial’ issues are down to Covid, Ukraine and Liz Truss.

Nothing to do with living beyond our real means for the last fifteen years on cheap credit?

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
4 months ago
Reply to  Mike Forsdike

That wasn’t really the argument. The point was that the swing voter will attribute their financial issues to those phenomena. Deano has been hit particularly hard by all of them for precisely the same reason that he will blame them for his troubles. He is a short term thinker without the perspective or knowledge to form a wider view like yours.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
4 months ago

“Probably not the main point, but why on earth do they live in a shit Deano Barratt estate newbuild?” wrote one journalist after photos emerged of Nicola Sturgeon’s Glasgow home being raided by police last week.

This is a snapshot of the Deano phenomenon. To the kind of urban middle class tote bag types, Deano is the archetypal pauper simpleton from their home town. They don’t appreciate that actually on a national scale, Deano is quite wealthy and there’s another layer below of utter poverty where they can’t even get an entry level German car on finance.
Great write-up. Deano is the new Mondeo Man.

Tyler Durden
Tyler Durden
4 months ago

Just as Britons thought that financial realities couldn’t get any worse after the 3 pandemic years, along comes 2023. Politically, this could be the most important article written this year. For such reasons, the negative vote against the Tories will be sizeable next year but the interesting case will be the US where equivalent economic forces are punishing the humbler middle classes – many, crucially, not college graduates – despite all the liberal media’s babble about Biden’s green Keynesianism.
This is the potentially sizeable anti-Democrat vote, yet that party is clearly expected to win begging the question of whether their Establishment can find the constitutional means of barring Mr Trump from running.

Karen Arnold
Karen Arnold
4 months ago
Reply to  Tyler Durden

From todays news it looks as if they are trying very hard, I don’t know if they will succeed.

Douglas Redmayne
Douglas Redmayne
4 months ago

“Deano” is also under 50 and even in 2019 the under 50’s voted Labour by a large margin. The Tory party is the party of selfish fossils and will be annihilated at the next election.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
4 months ago

Only because Labour has now become the party of selfish yuppies.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
4 months ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Damn yuppies and their selfish desire to pay more taxes to fund public services…

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
4 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

… whilst hanging on to the millions in unearned property wealth they’ve accumulated over the past twenty years.

UnHerd Reader
UnHerd Reader
4 months ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

If the tories proposed a wealth tax they might get the yuppie vote. Problem is they’d lose all their other voters

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
4 months ago
Reply to  UnHerd Reader

Duh? The reason the Tories don’t propose a wealth tax is that they know that, if they do, they won’t get the yuppie vote. New New Labour is just the same

Douglas Redmayne
Douglas Redmayne
4 months ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

These are “selfish” yuppies voting for more redistribution and better CO2 reduction policies unlike the selfish boomer fossils who are happily dying off

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
4 months ago

The most impressive thing about the metropolitan class is its ability to convince itself that its motives are altruistic when in fact they’re driven by greed, snobbery and class hatred. How about paying back some of the millions in unearned property wealth you’ve all been accumulating? No? Thought not.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
4 months ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

He needs it to cover care home costs

Dominic A
Dominic A
4 months ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

Your house value going up is unearned income of which the government should take a slice? It’s my only home, I took a risk buying it, spent thousands of hours and pounds maintaining it, have made high mortgage payments for 15 years (40% of two professional incomes for a Victorian slum house in South East London). Careful – greed, snobbery and class hatred have inverse versions.

Hugh Bryant
Hugh Bryant
4 months ago
Reply to  Dominic A

‘Your house value going up is unearned income of which the government should take a slice?’
Where do you think that wealth came from in the first place? Since 2008 GDP per capita in the UK has fallen by more than 10%. But you and everyone you know, probably, has got richer in every one of the years since. That’s because the government printed 43 billion pounds and, instead of spending it where it was actually needed, gave it to the banks, who then passed it onto you by investing it in the property market.
It’s called rent-seeking – living off the state. You get away with it because no politician dares – or even wants – to put a stop to it. It’s much too effective a way of buying middle class votes.
If you want money do something useful and earn it. Stop enriching yourself at someone else’s expense.

Dominic A
Dominic A
4 months ago
Reply to  Hugh Bryant

“Stop enriching yourself at someone else’s expense.”

I have no choice though do I Hugh? Unless you are suggesting I sacrifice my security by renting at ever increasing prices? Moreover, I would be far happier if house prices had just kept line with inflation – I’d have a much nicer house. Even if, on paper, my net worth was lower, I still need that house to live in – if that’s ok with you, Hugh?
Finally, house prices rose hugely, and more or less consistently before the money printing period (1980s, 90s). Finally, finally, buying a house – to live in – and finding it going up in price, for whatever reason is most certainly not rent-seeking.

Thomas Wagner
Thomas Wagner
4 months ago

The “selfish boomer fossils” have seen this all before. They fell for it the first time. They won’t do it again. You might do well to listen.

Papery
Papery
3 months ago
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