What a time to be alive where almost every governing body at every level: international, national, regional, local, elected and unelected (NGO, Quango, Think Tank, Charity) is rotten throughout. Self serving and parasitic with nothing but contempt for the actual people they are supposed to represent.
FFS, where do you think the impetus for all the anti-Western, anti-democratic, anti-Enlightenment authoritarianism is coming from? The CCP is destroying the West without firing a shot.
So true. So few seem to recognise western institutions are also now corrupt to the maggot-eaten, hollowed out core, just like Russia or China. We are sleepwalking into hell.
That BBC document-drama is quite ludicrous. ‘Think Caesar think Trump’ indeed!
Holland, Stewart and Wallace-Hadrill should be ashamed that they collaborated with such blatant nonsense.
Andrew Horsman
4 months ago
This article should be a must read for all UK policymakers and legislators.
The UK is preparing to sign up to a pandemic treaty and amendments to international law which would empower the Chinese-appointed communist at the top of the WHO, who has proclaimed his adherence to the “One China” policy which denies Taiwanese statehood and who once saw fit to attempt to appoint Robert Mugabe as a “goodwill ambassador”, to impose extraordinary requirements on all of the UN’s member states. This could, potentially, include vaccine mandates, lockdowns, and all kinds of restrictions on basic human rights in the name of the “common good”.
Under this vile, inhumane, lying Chinese communist toady and alleged human rights abuser who lacks any relevant medical training but has a long track record of alleged corruption in politics, the WHO endorsed fraudulent PCR tests not fit for the purpose of diagnosis, inflated covid case numbers, spread dangerous disinformation and fear about the deadliness of the disease by deliberately conflating the case fatality rate (small denominator) with the infection fatality rate (large denominator), recommended the use of deadly mechanical ventilation on the basis of faulty Chinese advice, and spread lies that massively inflated the risk asymptomatic spread based on flimsy Chinese “studies”, and on the basis of those lies recommended the entirely ineffective, dehumanising and environmentally harmful mass use of billions of surgical face coverings amongst the healthy general public.
If anyone with any degree of influence and power happens to be reading this: it’s time to wake up and speak up now. It’s time to be an adult, time to put your petty loyalties to a party, or your career, or your perceived social standing, to one side and simply stop this from happening. You must do everything in your power to stop your country from signing up to the WHO’s treaty and amendments to the International Health Regulations in order to stop the transfer of sovereign powers to an organisation that has become utterly corrupted with Chinese (and major corporate) money, power and influence.
Believe me this could well all turn around one day soon, and do so very quickly indeed – so don’t think that taking the easy way out and saying nothing and going along with crowd now will keep you safe in the slightly longer run because it will not.
The UK and anyone else should avoid that treaty even if Jesus Christ himself was at the head of the WHO. Bad ideas are not made good because of who administers them. Moreover, there cannot be anyone in a position of power who is unaware of what you wrote, which strongly suggests that they don’t care, that this is just a further power grab with some self-enrichment on the side.
Perhaps they can, but would they? A Starmer-led government would fall over itself to do what it is told and so absolve itself of any responsibility for making tough, potentially unpopular, decisions.
Charles Stanhope
4 months ago
What an embarrassment that man Cameron has turned out to be!
On the other hand, he might not care.
He made lot of money from brownnosing CCP.
Now as Foreign Secretary he has another chance to remind crooks and dictators that he is still available for hire after next election.
John Tyler
4 months ago
My heart dropped when he became Foreign Secretary.
Christopher Barclay
4 months ago
And yet our Government and Opposition support giving the WHO the right to imprison us in our homes.
Given the stubborn bloatocracy of government since March 2020 that shows no sign of ever deflating back to the level that preceded it, I would say it’s more a case of once bitten, permanently infected.
But it’s not the government we’re talking about, but the general population. If a majority went along with the original lockdowns, it was due to stepping into the unknown. A recurrence of that same “unknown” would be treated with a scepticism which no government could control, and no amount of limited law enforcement could cope with.
The weird thing is that there remains popular support for lockdowns. It seems as insane to me as it clearly also does to you, but there it is.
The only thing keeping the political class from doing it again is that they know, with painful certainty, how colossally economically destructive it is. They are not remotely worried about how popular it would be, because it would indeed be popular.
Not likely.
British were happily complying with covid regulations without any serious enforcement from uk government.
Unlike countries like Australia and France, where enforcement was strict.
The UK or any sovereign nation can simply refuse a WHO order and there’s nothing it can do.
Tyler Durden
4 months ago
Worth making a little note to remind that the parameters of the official UK Covid-19 enquiry were defined by Boris Johnson and his government not to explore the origins of the virus in China and look at how such Western governments interacted with the CCP and WHO to try and gauge what they were dealing with over winter 2019-20.
Caractacus Potts
4 months ago
The greatest psyop in history has been allowed to flourish in this country. It’s owned by the Chinese state yet banned in its own country because its entire mission is to set populations against one another other. It’s meant to destroy civilisations yet we encourage our most impressionable members of society, our children, to soak it all up to whatever degree they like.
It is, of course, TikTok. And it’s the most effective propaganda tool ever created. It’s beaten the West due to the West’s own wilful ignorance. I hate it but you have to doff your cap to the Chinese government for the sheer success they’ve had with it.
John Riordan
4 months ago
The thing we need to recall here is that China owes it to nobody to occupy the subordinate position to the USA that the USA and many US allies would find convenient. China sees the prospect of becoming the global superpower in the 21st century, and will attempt this in due course. There is nothing sinister about this but as realities go, it’s a harsh one for the West.
Saying this doesn’t make me a China apologist: China has shamelessly thieved intellectual property from the West without which its ascendancy would not have been possible, it operates an espionage system so committed that it is hard to avoid the perception that we’re in a cold war, and as the above article reveals, China has no interest in abiding by diplomatic norms or having any respect for the open societies in the West which make its infiltration so easy.
I don’t wholly blame David Cameron for being the poster-boy for the key strategic error of believing that free markets would turn China into an open society. This wasn’t mere wishful thinking: prior to Xi’s internal takeover of the CCP and the militant surveillance by the Chinese State of its own people, it seemed perfectly possible that a newly wealthy Chinese middle class and civil society would emerge that would eventually make China a liberal nation. This failed to happen of course, but the people saying we ought to have known it wouldn’t happen are wrong: Xi Jinping had to make enormous changes to the Chinese State in order to create the conditions the rest of the world now faces, and it is entirely obvious that although those changes may well be in the interest of the Chinese government, they do not serve 1.4billion Chinese people particularly well at all.
I suspect that what Britain is now doing is a case of better late than never. Closing off the obvious security holes in our political, economic and civil infrastructure won’t be easy but it has to be done. The biggest danger in doing this isn’t military or diplomatic, it’s economic. The article above makes reference to unnamed corporate influence in tempering the government’s response to Chinese espionage, but this is a dangerously misled stance. The real problem with “de-risking” Chinese dependence is simply the catastrophic inflationary effects Britain would face if it really did lose access to exports from the Chinese industrial base. It’s been 30 years since the British government took the credit for taming the inflationary beast of the 1970s/1980s, but in fact that triumph was more to do with the re-entry of China to the global economy and the opportunity for western nations to access cheap manufactured goods and commodities. Anything that reverses that process would be economc armageddon for Britain and western nations in general. You might not like corporate influence in politics, but on this subject the corporations are on our side as well as their own.
I strongly disagree with some arguments of your post.
For a start inflation in the West was tamed in the 80s.
So well before China became relevant in global economy.
The same goes for argument about transformation of Chinese society.
It was possible but very unlikely.
Then we need to remember that you don’t need competing ideologies to have wars between countries.
Just remember ww1.
World order arranged and dominated by China with help of dictators like Putin, Iran etc is clearly not in the West interest.
That is why I am amazed at all the praise given to Henry Kissinger.
He was the main culprit in raise of China together with Clinton.
Alex Lekas
4 months ago
China, China, China. My, my; all this hand-wringing, yet in the US, we have credible stories of a sitting member of Congress carrying on with a Chinese spy, a now-dead Senator having employed another spy for decades, and of course, the compromised Biden clan. And this ignores Mr. Fauci’s funding gain of function research in Wuhan. All the noise and warnings give the appearance of action, but in reality, are little more than pointless activity that leads to nothing.
Dumetrius
4 months ago
Any mentoring event you go to at big London universities has beaming Chinese alumni, keen to mentor selected graduates. I’m told they are very specific about who they mentor.
If you’re in the position of having slept with an alumnus’ brother and hence, know the alumnus’s real name, then go and see what he has posted online about China’s territorial disputes with the Philippines, frictions with India etc . . . it’s very instructive.
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Chipoko
4 months ago
Let it not be forgotten that Boris Johnson pushed very hard (thankfully without succeeding) for the Chinese telecoms company, Huawei, to install the 5G technology in the UK; this within weeks of his electoral victory in December 2019.Chinese students have been admitted in huge numbers into UK universities, many of them hardly able to understand English, written or spoken.This all happened during the Tory rule, commencing with Cameron’s (“Call me Dave!”) love affair with Beijing.!
j watson
4 months ago
We need Articles like this. We are awaking from our slumber but the enemy has a decade head-start. It even has it’s own Police stations in the UK!
Of course the dilemma for the Govt is there is an economic cost, and having spent 13years weakening our economy through ineptitude they are poorly positioned to now wean us fast and effectively off semi-dependence. Hence the gravitational pull will be to downplay the risk. That cannot happen.
Much of our debate about what might happen in any GE in 2024, or what might a Starmer Govt might do with the ‘hospital pass’ of an inheritance bequeathed by the Tories, (and especially the Brexit/ERG ‘no real plan loons’ who would have raced us even quicker into CCP arms) may seem quickly parochial if conflict breaks out in the South China Sea.
We have been offshoring for a lot more than 13 years. This reference implies a difference in policy between the Conservatives and New Labour which does not exist.
Globalisation has been built on the supposed economic benefits of transferring production to lower cost producers (ie China). As we are beginning to see this has a seriously adverse effect on our national security as even basic industries like steel are offshored.
This is being exacerbated in the pursuit of Net Zero with the offshoring of our energy supplies and food production. Our consumption of natural gas and oil with the associated creation of CO2 continues but now supplies come half way round the world. We have seen the risks to Europe from a dependence on Russia but we seem oblivious to our own situational risks.
We need to rethink our global friendships. More so our neighbours in the EU need to be very careful in their direction of travel. It seems that, in their desire to differentiate themselves from the USA, they are increasing their relations with China and, even, Iran. This is extremely dangerous for liberal democracy. This is not a time for democratic countries to be chewing lumps out of each other. I would have hoped that the memories of autocratic control were still in Eastern Europe but I begin to wonder.
Liberal democracy is under threat from itself as much as it’s enemies.
The approach of the CCP visibly changed in 2012 when Xi took control of both CCP and CMC. The approach prior to that was certainly not benign but it’s about then we got much better sight of what was happening. Yet we delayed responding. We didn’t want to believe it.
In this context some/many thought weakening our ties with the EU still wise and sensible. Xi will have been delighted. UK leadership in Europe was as much in Europe’s interest as ours and increasingly I strongly suspect would have come to pass.
I’m not convinced lib democracy as under threat from itself as much as from it’s enemies. Our enemies certainly look to support and enhance division though. We need to recognise that quicker.
US Republicans currently not seeing that Ukraine position inextricably linked to that of containing China because of what it might mean for how Europe reacts. US Politics, with an approaching election, distorting what’s prioritised. Xi and Putin will stoke that as much as poss.
There was never any uk leadership in Europe.
Just look at the treatment Cameron got from Europe prior to EU referendum.
The idea that Xi somehow changed general China approach to the West is nonsense.
Xi only became much more open and assertive about China strategic goals, whereas Deng was telling China to play nice and bide for time.
Your wet dreams about EU are just hilarious.
The clear and present danger to European democracy is the legal and political overreach of EU Commission.
We can see this in full flow when EU and Germany agent in Poland, Tusk, is suspending tv stations and sacking journalist against clear legal framework.
Strangely, EU has no problem with it but used judicial activism to punish PiS government for enforcing clear prerogatives of national government.
It often seems as if the people who scream loudest about the sanctity of democracy are the ones working the hardest to undermine it. There is ample evidence of that in the US.
Liakoura
4 months ago
“Take the UFWD, which is one of the six main CCP departments. One of its formal responsibilities is to gather intelligence on the activities of what it calls “Overseas Chinese”, which mostly includes recent or temporary Chinese-born migrants in places including the UK.”
“Over the past few years, China has stepped up the hunt for fugitives accused of corruption. From 2014 to the end of 2019, 7,242 fugitives were repatriated to China from more than 120 countries and regions, with 18.6 billion yuan ($2.9 billion) in illicit money being recovered, according to another CCDI statement.”
Simon Blanchard
4 months ago
Great piece. It’s not just the Chinese. Russian penetration to the literal core of the UK government is no less concerning. It’s only the war in Ukraine that embarrassed Johnson enough to bring about a few degrees of separation. And no doubt because the Americans told him to. I’d very much like the author to explore that topic.
Mike Bell
4 months ago
You write as though Western powers are not doing similar things.
The Great game is endless.
No doubt the Pharaoh had spies in the Hittite government.
Paddy Taylor
4 months ago
Our political parties, our cultural institutions, our universities and our media, have all sought to benefit from a relationship with China – yet few seem to question what they expect in return.
We are not alone. For all the public protestations, most European states (including the UK) are completely in thrall to Chinese money. What price European solidarity? Well the Chinese know the price to undermine it and are more than willing to pay it.
The EU issued warnings against any member nation getting “gently ensnared” by BRI – China’s Belt and Road Initiative, the massive global infrastructure program that will trap signatories in unsustainable debt and thus give Beijing crushing leverage and influence over them.
For all the united face the EU (laughably) presents to the world: Austria, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Greece, Portugal, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia and Italy all signed up to the BRI, in the hope they may see some crumbs fall from Beijing’s table. Some are trying to back away – time will tell if they manage to.
But aside from the brute force approach of buying their way into controlling a country’s critical infrastructure, there is the more subtle and insidious element to the Chinese Govt’s reach and power. Political and business leaders who wish to benefit from a relationship with China know the best way, the only way, to achieve it, is to cosy up to the regime and speak and act on their behalf. Beijing have willing shills aplenty.
When News Corp was seeking to develop business interests in China, Rupert Murdoch knew he had to toe the line and so started undermining the toast of New York & Hollywood elite, the Dalai Lama. Murdoch did, admittedly, come up with a pretty good line, calling him “a political monk in Gucci slippers”.
Our universities, since deciding they were to be run as businesses rather than places of scholarship, need Chinese students and Chinese sponsorship – and thus any lecture or research that is critical of China is practically banned. China’s influence over Cambridge University is so deep that Madeline Grant over at the Telegraph rather amusingly asked “how long until Jesus College is renamed “Xi-sus”?”
China only allows 34 western-made films to be distributed there each year. Despite that, as of last year, the Chinese market officially overtook the US as the world’s largest box-office, all but guaranteeing that studios will continue to do everything they can to get access to that market. Any plotline or content that might offend the Chinese Govt is removed – or the studio loses the chance to put any of its films into their nearly 80 thousand screens. (The US, by comparison, has just over 40 000)
For the last 10 years at least, we’ve read in the Liberal western media the bleating about China’s (or Russia’s) unhealthy influence and designs on the West – But such pleadings are printed right alongside editorials that repeatedly refuse to support any Western counterweight to it. They recognise the danger but insist we cravenly appease them – just to avoid appearing belligerent – imagining that if we don’t poke the bear, or pull the dragon’s tail, then maybe they won’t eat us!! We’ve been on the menu for a while.
If you can influence our educational institutions, the media and the movies then you can tell whatever story you want. As ever, China plays the long game, and plays it well.
Great post. Only 2 upvotes?
OK, more it is a difference between upvotes and downvotes.
michael harris
4 months ago
No mention in this piece of Mrs. Hunt, the Chancellor of the Exchequer’s ‘Japanese’ wife.
Peter Hill
4 months ago
Chinese on one side, islamists on the other
Jack Tuohy
4 months ago
The activities of the United Front Work Department has been going on for many years and well before the subject of this essay. In September 2017, Anne-Marie Brady (professor of political science at the University of Canterbury in Christchurch, New Zealand) presented a conference paper Magic Weapons: China’s political influence activities under Xi Jinping detailing the Chinese Communist Party’s attempts to influence international opinion using New Zealand as a case study. It is lengthy but well worth the read for its similarity of CCP infiltration and espionage activities that have taken place over many years and continue across the Western world.
This is the abstract from the Journal of Democracy on the paper:
New Zealand is the target of a concerted foreign-influence campaign by the People’s Republic of China (PRC). The campaign aims to further the political and economic agendas of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) by coopting local elites, securing access to strategic information and resources, and manipulating public discourse. These CCP political influence activities, which in China fall under the rubric of “united front work,” have also frequently been a means of facilitating espionage. New Zealand appears to have been a test zone for many of China’s recent united front efforts—activities that not only threaten New Zealand’s sovereignty, but also are undermining the integrity of the New Zealand political system and the rights of ethnic-Chinese New Zealanders to the freedoms of speech, association, and religion.
This is a link to the paper on documentcloud: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4053774-Magic-Weapons-China-s-political-influence
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Mangle Tangle
4 months ago
The hidden network of deals and influencing explains a lot of what some amongst us naively call ‘errors of policy’. To illustrate this, I recommend the FT’s current podcast on the links between governments (especially UAE and Iran), cocaine businesses, assassinations and political influence in the Western democracies. Fascinating stuff. Google ‘FT Narcos’.
Brian Doyle
4 months ago
For all those that are blantly Anti China
And the pie in the sky the perceived threat China poses economically
What a load of complete Coital Bovine Scatology
The very real threat is already fastidiously at work and it’s home grown
A fine example is HS 2 which has no Chinese input
But if it did have then it would have been completed and fully operational long before now all considerably below the
Eye watering costs to date
Furthermore work would be well underway extending HS 2 to Glasgow or
Edinburgh
And another fine example is opening up
As we speak and that’s the Stealth fighter project I.e.The Tempest as this aircraft is to be named
The Tempest even before a test flight made is already outdated as China making excellent strides in developing a Generation 6 Stealth fighter
The West laughed it’s head off when China 1st flew The J20 Stealth fighter
And using it’s so called cumbersome Airframe as the main reason Western F35,s would easily defeat it
Oh how wrong they were because those that laugh 1st usually end up laughing last and a few Months back America got
The fright of their live whilst a F35 in association with F22 Raptors flying thru The Taiwan straights 100,s of Km,s back from the F35
This is a well practiced tactic by USAF
The F35 being the lure and the Raptors
Moving in for the kill
Well then a Chinese J 20 out of nowhere
Despite US AWACS High in the sky above
The J20 suddenly appeared on the tail of
The F35 having done so W/O deploying
It’s own radar or locking of missiles, pulling up alongside and side flipping wings to show payload ( weapon bay opening briefly ) then the J20 suddenly
Swooped away soaring very fast and almost vertically without trace and The USAF not a clue as to where it came from
This has USAF airforce bewildered as to how this was achieved but acknowledge that it did so by way of a very advanced system of integrated radar ,AI computing , Satellites and ground control facilities
But one thing they do know now is as to why the Chinese J 20 Airframe was so heavy
This unlike the F35 and The proposed Tempest
Enables China to develop the J20 with more powerful engines ( ones that have thrust vector control ) add more and more sophisticated weapons ,radars and
AI integrated computing along with additional fuel pods
China’s next 6th generation fighter is already well under development and will
Completely alter Airborne warfare
As it incorporates more and more highly advanced technology which shall enable
It to operate at heights that no other can
Along with the most important feature of all and just as China did with J20
Their new fighter will with ease be able to accept and incorporate new technologies and updates to all other systems as time goes by . Just like their
Development of HS rail now cable of 386 Km/ HR constructed at phenomenal speed and low cost / Km than any Western Nation
Literally for The UK Now finds itself stood upon the platform as the train rapidly disappears out of sight
The UK Tempest is already a ‘ Dead Duck ‘
And a Hideously expensive one just like HS2
Their are many many more areas of vital economic affairs where China is leaving the field behind
A US think tank recently published a paper and shockingly found that in the areas of the highest economic development essential for future success of any economy that of the 10 Most vital areas that China had a lead in 7 of them and if current progress maintained ( China currently pouring more and more resources into all these areas ) then it is not a case of but when China gains supremacy in all areas
The West politically, societyly and economically now find that once they were the hare and China the tortoise
That indeed as technology leaps and bounds growing expodentially
Tis China that is not a Hare but akin to a prize racing Greyhound
And The West not the tortoise but a old
Worn out collapsing Elephant who,s days
Are now coming to a end
Sorry folks too late to wake up now
Accept and work cooperatively with China or be left To Wither and die in terms of Geopolitical matters of economics and Military
Well said. Most people I have spoken to in the West still think that China is a cheap workshop making knock-off products at cut-prices.
They have not noticed that China is becoming No1 innovator. They registered more patents on solar panels than the rest of the world, I understand.
They have an advanced space-station – built because the US refused to let them participate in the ISS.
They’ve developed advanced chips because the US put sanctions on those.
They spotted the rise of EVs so long ago they dominate the battery market.
Ho Hum.
They aren’t as smart as you think they are then. EVs are NOT the future, and if you care to check out the number of EV fires in China, it is ‘interesting’ to put it mildly.
The threat of China has always been the stupidity of our leaders. When Nixon first started to approach China I pointed out what I thought was the most pertinent fact and mistake we were making.
“China is in the business of politics, the West in the politics of business.”
OR probably put more memorably before I came up with that, though by whom remains a mystery.
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
Now, so they say, the quality is what they are after. IF they were so smart, they wouldn’t have built so many ghost cities and squandered billions.
They are a danger no doubt, but personally, the Net Zero/Woke cults of the West are more dangerous.
We’ll have so rotted the society of the West they won’t need vast amounts of any military hardware. A wind over 56mph shutting down are ‘windmill powered grid’ or no wind will manage the economic collapse.
The Ladies with b@ll5 and associated equipment will bring down society. China & the BRICS simply have to wait a few years IF both insanities continue.
Doubtless Net zero/Woke cults are just that, but don’t forget that the CCP funds these and promotes them through TikTok (banned in China, natch) and the CCP makes/subsidises windmills and all those wonderful “green” power grid items too…
Trebles all round!
But West does not need EVs.
For a start we don’t have national and local grid capacity for it or generating capacity.
We are committing economic suicide on the altar of moronic net zero.
Main problem for humanity is overpopulation in Muslim and African countries.
About 4 billion of useless people.
Devouring planet like locust.
This sounds so much like the US Industrial Military Complex assessment of the Russian Military and Navy just before they asked for billions to combat them and yet another Russian sub blew itself up underwater.
I can’t remember where I read an article on the AUKUS deal, possibly Unherd, but in the article it was pointed out that the reason for the Chinese anger at Australia was they’d get the same tech as the UK/US had in submarine warfare.
The author pointed out how the US MIC always ‘puffed up’ the enemy to keep up the levels of investment. They also claimed that US/UK nuclear subs regularly shadowed unsuspecting Chinese ones, but the US MIC was forever claiming the Chinese were about to ‘leapfrog’ the best the US had.
It was forever thus, how many times were we told of the superiority of the modern Russian fighter bombers – where are they in Ukraine?
Or those “Modern” Russian tanks?
Or more specious still, Ukraine is winning!
As with Russia, much of what China has is ‘stolen’ – remember the Concordski?
You can’t believe much of what comes out of the US, never mind China.
Before COVID actually ended up in the accidental experimental Petri dish of the Diamond Princess, where ALL the world, had it bothered, could have seen it wasn’t the New Black Death, China had videos galore of people collapsing in the street. So called bodies everywhere and Hazmat teams collecting them. Next they tell us their COVID death toll was?
(according to worldometers web site)
5,272
As far as I am concerned, that is about as believable as their super stealth fighter achieving what you claim it achieved or Biden having nowt to do with his son’s money. Made in Ukraine.
Vocous nonsense from China stooge.
Reality is if USA stopped oil and food supplies to China, China is gone within few months.
The J20 stealth fighter is based on stolen USA designs.
I accept that West is guilty of appeasing China.
The good starting point would be to expell Chinese students from Western Universities, unless they study gender and other woke subjects.
And clearing out Chinese stooges from business, politics, civil service and universities.
Obviously, it is not likely to happen.
But it does not mean that it would be desirable outcome.
What a time to be alive where almost every governing body at every level: international, national, regional, local, elected and unelected (NGO, Quango, Think Tank, Charity) is rotten throughout. Self serving and parasitic with nothing but contempt for the actual people they are supposed to represent.
Might just marginally be considered as putting a toe into the the land of the sweeping generalisation.
Yes, I should be working my way through them one by one.
I think my statement (as a generalisation) still stands unless you have evidence contrary to it.
I think the op touched a nerve there.
FFS, where do you think the impetus for all the anti-Western, anti-democratic, anti-Enlightenment authoritarianism is coming from? The CCP is destroying the West without firing a shot.
For the elected bodies, the one-time citizen has been reduced to being a subject. For the NGOs, he’s not even a consideration.
I’m glad you wrote ‘almost’ – I feared you might have a somewhat extremist view about the rottenness of every possible aspect of UK society.
A very pessimistic one certainly
Not society, the establishment.
So true. So few seem to recognise western institutions are also now corrupt to the maggot-eaten, hollowed out core, just like Russia or China. We are sleepwalking into hell.
Just been watching the BBC’s docu-drama ‘Julius Caesar’.
I don’t think the current situation in GB politics is significantly different.
Really! A more feeble BBC parable would be hard to imagine.Think’Caesar’ think ‘Trump’, what utter tosh!
Stewart, Holland, Wallace-Hadrill and Co should be ashamed that they ever participated in such arrant nonsense.
POSTED @ 19.26 GMT.
That BBC document-drama is quite ludicrous. ‘Think Caesar think Trump’ indeed!
Holland, Stewart and Wallace-Hadrill should be ashamed that they collaborated with such blatant nonsense.
This article should be a must read for all UK policymakers and legislators.
The UK is preparing to sign up to a pandemic treaty and amendments to international law which would empower the Chinese-appointed communist at the top of the WHO, who has proclaimed his adherence to the “One China” policy which denies Taiwanese statehood and who once saw fit to attempt to appoint Robert Mugabe as a “goodwill ambassador”, to impose extraordinary requirements on all of the UN’s member states. This could, potentially, include vaccine mandates, lockdowns, and all kinds of restrictions on basic human rights in the name of the “common good”.
Under this vile, inhumane, lying Chinese communist toady and alleged human rights abuser who lacks any relevant medical training but has a long track record of alleged corruption in politics, the WHO endorsed fraudulent PCR tests not fit for the purpose of diagnosis, inflated covid case numbers, spread dangerous disinformation and fear about the deadliness of the disease by deliberately conflating the case fatality rate (small denominator) with the infection fatality rate (large denominator), recommended the use of deadly mechanical ventilation on the basis of faulty Chinese advice, and spread lies that massively inflated the risk asymptomatic spread based on flimsy Chinese “studies”, and on the basis of those lies recommended the entirely ineffective, dehumanising and environmentally harmful mass use of billions of surgical face coverings amongst the healthy general public.
If anyone with any degree of influence and power happens to be reading this: it’s time to wake up and speak up now. It’s time to be an adult, time to put your petty loyalties to a party, or your career, or your perceived social standing, to one side and simply stop this from happening. You must do everything in your power to stop your country from signing up to the WHO’s treaty and amendments to the International Health Regulations in order to stop the transfer of sovereign powers to an organisation that has become utterly corrupted with Chinese (and major corporate) money, power and influence.
Believe me this could well all turn around one day soon, and do so very quickly indeed – so don’t think that taking the easy way out and saying nothing and going along with crowd now will keep you safe in the slightly longer run because it will not.
The UK and anyone else should avoid that treaty even if Jesus Christ himself was at the head of the WHO. Bad ideas are not made good because of who administers them. Moreover, there cannot be anyone in a position of power who is unaware of what you wrote, which strongly suggests that they don’t care, that this is just a further power grab with some self-enrichment on the side.
The WHO is a paper tiger. Any sovereign nation can raise the middle finger and refuse to follow any prescription anointed by the WHO.
Perhaps they can, but would they? A Starmer-led government would fall over itself to do what it is told and so absolve itself of any responsibility for making tough, potentially unpopular, decisions.
What an embarrassment that man Cameron has turned out to be!
And yet welcomed back into government like some sort of saviour.
It is utterly bizarre that he was ennobled and brought back into government. Saviour he never was and nothing had changed.
Well, he was instrumental in facilitating Sunak career together with William Hague.
So it is payback time.
On the other hand, he might not care.
He made lot of money from brownnosing CCP.
Now as Foreign Secretary he has another chance to remind crooks and dictators that he is still available for hire after next election.
My heart dropped when he became Foreign Secretary.
And yet our Government and Opposition support giving the WHO the right to imprison us in our homes.
I think if that ever came about, there’d be civil disobedience on a scale rarely witnessed in the UK, if ever.
I’d have said the same in February 2020 if you’d asked me about the potential response to Covid19.
But i really do think that “once bitten, twice shy” can be applied here.
Given the stubborn bloatocracy of government since March 2020 that shows no sign of ever deflating back to the level that preceded it, I would say it’s more a case of once bitten, permanently infected.
But it’s not the government we’re talking about, but the general population. If a majority went along with the original lockdowns, it was due to stepping into the unknown. A recurrence of that same “unknown” would be treated with a scepticism which no government could control, and no amount of limited law enforcement could cope with.
Look at the recent surveys, the majority would fall back into Lockdown tomorrow
We are a beaten Nation and ripe to become drones.
The weird thing is that there remains popular support for lockdowns. It seems as insane to me as it clearly also does to you, but there it is.
The only thing keeping the political class from doing it again is that they know, with painful certainty, how colossally economically destructive it is. They are not remotely worried about how popular it would be, because it would indeed be popular.
Not likely.
British were happily complying with covid regulations without any serious enforcement from uk government.
Unlike countries like Australia and France, where enforcement was strict.
It’s almost as if “hey, look; it’s China” is a straw man argument. Bamboo man?
The UK or any sovereign nation can simply refuse a WHO order and there’s nothing it can do.
Worth making a little note to remind that the parameters of the official UK Covid-19 enquiry were defined by Boris Johnson and his government not to explore the origins of the virus in China and look at how such Western governments interacted with the CCP and WHO to try and gauge what they were dealing with over winter 2019-20.
The greatest psyop in history has been allowed to flourish in this country. It’s owned by the Chinese state yet banned in its own country because its entire mission is to set populations against one another other. It’s meant to destroy civilisations yet we encourage our most impressionable members of society, our children, to soak it all up to whatever degree they like.
It is, of course, TikTok. And it’s the most effective propaganda tool ever created. It’s beaten the West due to the West’s own wilful ignorance. I hate it but you have to doff your cap to the Chinese government for the sheer success they’ve had with it.
The thing we need to recall here is that China owes it to nobody to occupy the subordinate position to the USA that the USA and many US allies would find convenient. China sees the prospect of becoming the global superpower in the 21st century, and will attempt this in due course. There is nothing sinister about this but as realities go, it’s a harsh one for the West.
Saying this doesn’t make me a China apologist: China has shamelessly thieved intellectual property from the West without which its ascendancy would not have been possible, it operates an espionage system so committed that it is hard to avoid the perception that we’re in a cold war, and as the above article reveals, China has no interest in abiding by diplomatic norms or having any respect for the open societies in the West which make its infiltration so easy.
I don’t wholly blame David Cameron for being the poster-boy for the key strategic error of believing that free markets would turn China into an open society. This wasn’t mere wishful thinking: prior to Xi’s internal takeover of the CCP and the militant surveillance by the Chinese State of its own people, it seemed perfectly possible that a newly wealthy Chinese middle class and civil society would emerge that would eventually make China a liberal nation. This failed to happen of course, but the people saying we ought to have known it wouldn’t happen are wrong: Xi Jinping had to make enormous changes to the Chinese State in order to create the conditions the rest of the world now faces, and it is entirely obvious that although those changes may well be in the interest of the Chinese government, they do not serve 1.4billion Chinese people particularly well at all.
I suspect that what Britain is now doing is a case of better late than never. Closing off the obvious security holes in our political, economic and civil infrastructure won’t be easy but it has to be done. The biggest danger in doing this isn’t military or diplomatic, it’s economic. The article above makes reference to unnamed corporate influence in tempering the government’s response to Chinese espionage, but this is a dangerously misled stance. The real problem with “de-risking” Chinese dependence is simply the catastrophic inflationary effects Britain would face if it really did lose access to exports from the Chinese industrial base. It’s been 30 years since the British government took the credit for taming the inflationary beast of the 1970s/1980s, but in fact that triumph was more to do with the re-entry of China to the global economy and the opportunity for western nations to access cheap manufactured goods and commodities. Anything that reverses that process would be economc armageddon for Britain and western nations in general. You might not like corporate influence in politics, but on this subject the corporations are on our side as well as their own.
I strongly disagree with some arguments of your post.
For a start inflation in the West was tamed in the 80s.
So well before China became relevant in global economy.
The same goes for argument about transformation of Chinese society.
It was possible but very unlikely.
Then we need to remember that you don’t need competing ideologies to have wars between countries.
Just remember ww1.
World order arranged and dominated by China with help of dictators like Putin, Iran etc is clearly not in the West interest.
That is why I am amazed at all the praise given to Henry Kissinger.
He was the main culprit in raise of China together with Clinton.
China, China, China. My, my; all this hand-wringing, yet in the US, we have credible stories of a sitting member of Congress carrying on with a Chinese spy, a now-dead Senator having employed another spy for decades, and of course, the compromised Biden clan. And this ignores Mr. Fauci’s funding gain of function research in Wuhan. All the noise and warnings give the appearance of action, but in reality, are little more than pointless activity that leads to nothing.
Any mentoring event you go to at big London universities has beaming Chinese alumni, keen to mentor selected graduates. I’m told they are very specific about who they mentor.
If you’re in the position of having slept with an alumnus’ brother and hence, know the alumnus’s real name, then go and see what he has posted online about China’s territorial disputes with the Philippines, frictions with India etc . . . it’s very instructive.
Let it not be forgotten that Boris Johnson pushed very hard (thankfully without succeeding) for the Chinese telecoms company, Huawei, to install the 5G technology in the UK; this within weeks of his electoral victory in December 2019.Chinese students have been admitted in huge numbers into UK universities, many of them hardly able to understand English, written or spoken.This all happened during the Tory rule, commencing with Cameron’s (“Call me Dave!”) love affair with Beijing.!
We need Articles like this. We are awaking from our slumber but the enemy has a decade head-start. It even has it’s own Police stations in the UK!
Of course the dilemma for the Govt is there is an economic cost, and having spent 13years weakening our economy through ineptitude they are poorly positioned to now wean us fast and effectively off semi-dependence. Hence the gravitational pull will be to downplay the risk. That cannot happen.
Much of our debate about what might happen in any GE in 2024, or what might a Starmer Govt might do with the ‘hospital pass’ of an inheritance bequeathed by the Tories, (and especially the Brexit/ERG ‘no real plan loons’ who would have raced us even quicker into CCP arms) may seem quickly parochial if conflict breaks out in the South China Sea.
We have been offshoring for a lot more than 13 years. This reference implies a difference in policy between the Conservatives and New Labour which does not exist.
Globalisation has been built on the supposed economic benefits of transferring production to lower cost producers (ie China). As we are beginning to see this has a seriously adverse effect on our national security as even basic industries like steel are offshored.
This is being exacerbated in the pursuit of Net Zero with the offshoring of our energy supplies and food production. Our consumption of natural gas and oil with the associated creation of CO2 continues but now supplies come half way round the world. We have seen the risks to Europe from a dependence on Russia but we seem oblivious to our own situational risks.
We need to rethink our global friendships. More so our neighbours in the EU need to be very careful in their direction of travel. It seems that, in their desire to differentiate themselves from the USA, they are increasing their relations with China and, even, Iran. This is extremely dangerous for liberal democracy. This is not a time for democratic countries to be chewing lumps out of each other. I would have hoped that the memories of autocratic control were still in Eastern Europe but I begin to wonder.
Liberal democracy is under threat from itself as much as it’s enemies.
The approach of the CCP visibly changed in 2012 when Xi took control of both CCP and CMC. The approach prior to that was certainly not benign but it’s about then we got much better sight of what was happening. Yet we delayed responding. We didn’t want to believe it.
In this context some/many thought weakening our ties with the EU still wise and sensible. Xi will have been delighted. UK leadership in Europe was as much in Europe’s interest as ours and increasingly I strongly suspect would have come to pass.
I’m not convinced lib democracy as under threat from itself as much as from it’s enemies. Our enemies certainly look to support and enhance division though. We need to recognise that quicker.
US Republicans currently not seeing that Ukraine position inextricably linked to that of containing China because of what it might mean for how Europe reacts. US Politics, with an approaching election, distorting what’s prioritised. Xi and Putin will stoke that as much as poss.
How about trying the occasional verb or article?
There was never any uk leadership in Europe.
Just look at the treatment Cameron got from Europe prior to EU referendum.
The idea that Xi somehow changed general China approach to the West is nonsense.
Xi only became much more open and assertive about China strategic goals, whereas Deng was telling China to play nice and bide for time.
Your wet dreams about EU are just hilarious.
The clear and present danger to European democracy is the legal and political overreach of EU Commission.
We can see this in full flow when EU and Germany agent in Poland, Tusk, is suspending tv stations and sacking journalist against clear legal framework.
Strangely, EU has no problem with it but used judicial activism to punish PiS government for enforcing clear prerogatives of national government.
I can’t help but think that Biden is quite pally with Xi despite all the pantomime of strong worlds and Pelosi’s much photographed visit to Taiwan.
It often seems as if the people who scream loudest about the sanctity of democracy are the ones working the hardest to undermine it. There is ample evidence of that in the US.
“Over the past few years, China has stepped up the hunt for fugitives accused of corruption. From 2014 to the end of 2019, 7,242 fugitives were repatriated to China from more than 120 countries and regions, with 18.6 billion yuan ($2.9 billion) in illicit money being recovered, according to another CCDI statement.”
Great piece. It’s not just the Chinese. Russian penetration to the literal core of the UK government is no less concerning. It’s only the war in Ukraine that embarrassed Johnson enough to bring about a few degrees of separation. And no doubt because the Americans told him to. I’d very much like the author to explore that topic.
You write as though Western powers are not doing similar things.
The Great game is endless.
No doubt the Pharaoh had spies in the Hittite government.
Our political parties, our cultural institutions, our universities and our media, have all sought to benefit from a relationship with China – yet few seem to question what they expect in return.
We are not alone. For all the public protestations, most European states (including the UK) are completely in thrall to Chinese money. What price European solidarity? Well the Chinese know the price to undermine it and are more than willing to pay it.
The EU issued warnings against any member nation getting “gently ensnared” by BRI – China’s Belt and Road Initiative, the massive global infrastructure program that will trap signatories in unsustainable debt and thus give Beijing crushing leverage and influence over them.
For all the united face the EU (laughably) presents to the world: Austria, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Greece, Portugal, Hungary, Poland and Slovakia and Italy all signed up to the BRI, in the hope they may see some crumbs fall from Beijing’s table. Some are trying to back away – time will tell if they manage to.
But aside from the brute force approach of buying their way into controlling a country’s critical infrastructure, there is the more subtle and insidious element to the Chinese Govt’s reach and power. Political and business leaders who wish to benefit from a relationship with China know the best way, the only way, to achieve it, is to cosy up to the regime and speak and act on their behalf. Beijing have willing shills aplenty.
When News Corp was seeking to develop business interests in China, Rupert Murdoch knew he had to toe the line and so started undermining the toast of New York & Hollywood elite, the Dalai Lama. Murdoch did, admittedly, come up with a pretty good line, calling him “a political monk in Gucci slippers”.
Our universities, since deciding they were to be run as businesses rather than places of scholarship, need Chinese students and Chinese sponsorship – and thus any lecture or research that is critical of China is practically banned. China’s influence over Cambridge University is so deep that Madeline Grant over at the Telegraph rather amusingly asked “how long until Jesus College is renamed “Xi-sus”?”
China only allows 34 western-made films to be distributed there each year. Despite that, as of last year, the Chinese market officially overtook the US as the world’s largest box-office, all but guaranteeing that studios will continue to do everything they can to get access to that market. Any plotline or content that might offend the Chinese Govt is removed – or the studio loses the chance to put any of its films into their nearly 80 thousand screens. (The US, by comparison, has just over 40 000)
For the last 10 years at least, we’ve read in the Liberal western media the bleating about China’s (or Russia’s) unhealthy influence and designs on the West – But such pleadings are printed right alongside editorials that repeatedly refuse to support any Western counterweight to it. They recognise the danger but insist we cravenly appease them – just to avoid appearing belligerent – imagining that if we don’t poke the bear, or pull the dragon’s tail, then maybe they won’t eat us!! We’ve been on the menu for a while.
If you can influence our educational institutions, the media and the movies then you can tell whatever story you want. As ever, China plays the long game, and plays it well.
Great post. Only 2 upvotes?
OK, more it is a difference between upvotes and downvotes.
No mention in this piece of Mrs. Hunt, the Chancellor of the Exchequer’s ‘Japanese’ wife.
Chinese on one side, islamists on the other
The activities of the United Front Work Department has been going on for many years and well before the subject of this essay. In September 2017, Anne-Marie Brady (professor of political science at the University of Canterbury in Christchurch, New Zealand) presented a conference paper Magic Weapons: China’s political influence activities under Xi Jinping detailing the Chinese Communist Party’s attempts to influence international opinion using New Zealand as a case study. It is lengthy but well worth the read for its similarity of CCP infiltration and espionage activities that have taken place over many years and continue across the Western world.
This is the abstract from the Journal of Democracy on the paper:
New Zealand is the target of a concerted foreign-influence campaign by the People’s Republic of China (PRC). The campaign aims to further the political and economic agendas of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) by coopting local elites, securing access to strategic information and resources, and manipulating public discourse. These CCP political influence activities, which in China fall under the rubric of “united front work,” have also frequently been a means of facilitating espionage. New Zealand appears to have been a test zone for many of China’s recent united front efforts—activities that not only threaten New Zealand’s sovereignty, but also are undermining the integrity of the New Zealand political system and the rights of ethnic-Chinese New Zealanders to the freedoms of speech, association, and religion.
This is a link to the paper on documentcloud:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/4053774-Magic-Weapons-China-s-political-influence
The hidden network of deals and influencing explains a lot of what some amongst us naively call ‘errors of policy’. To illustrate this, I recommend the FT’s current podcast on the links between governments (especially UAE and Iran), cocaine businesses, assassinations and political influence in the Western democracies. Fascinating stuff. Google ‘FT Narcos’.
For all those that are blantly Anti China
And the pie in the sky the perceived threat China poses economically
What a load of complete Coital Bovine Scatology
The very real threat is already fastidiously at work and it’s home grown
A fine example is HS 2 which has no Chinese input
But if it did have then it would have been completed and fully operational long before now all considerably below the
Eye watering costs to date
Furthermore work would be well underway extending HS 2 to Glasgow or
Edinburgh
And another fine example is opening up
As we speak and that’s the Stealth fighter project I.e.The Tempest as this aircraft is to be named
The Tempest even before a test flight made is already outdated as China making excellent strides in developing a Generation 6 Stealth fighter
The West laughed it’s head off when China 1st flew The J20 Stealth fighter
And using it’s so called cumbersome Airframe as the main reason Western F35,s would easily defeat it
Oh how wrong they were because those that laugh 1st usually end up laughing last and a few Months back America got
The fright of their live whilst a F35 in association with F22 Raptors flying thru The Taiwan straights 100,s of Km,s back from the F35
This is a well practiced tactic by USAF
The F35 being the lure and the Raptors
Moving in for the kill
Well then a Chinese J 20 out of nowhere
Despite US AWACS High in the sky above
The J20 suddenly appeared on the tail of
The F35 having done so W/O deploying
It’s own radar or locking of missiles, pulling up alongside and side flipping wings to show payload ( weapon bay opening briefly ) then the J20 suddenly
Swooped away soaring very fast and almost vertically without trace and The USAF not a clue as to where it came from
This has USAF airforce bewildered as to how this was achieved but acknowledge that it did so by way of a very advanced system of integrated radar ,AI computing , Satellites and ground control facilities
But one thing they do know now is as to why the Chinese J 20 Airframe was so heavy
This unlike the F35 and The proposed Tempest
Enables China to develop the J20 with more powerful engines ( ones that have thrust vector control ) add more and more sophisticated weapons ,radars and
AI integrated computing along with additional fuel pods
China’s next 6th generation fighter is already well under development and will
Completely alter Airborne warfare
As it incorporates more and more highly advanced technology which shall enable
It to operate at heights that no other can
Along with the most important feature of all and just as China did with J20
Their new fighter will with ease be able to accept and incorporate new technologies and updates to all other systems as time goes by . Just like their
Development of HS rail now cable of 386 Km/ HR constructed at phenomenal speed and low cost / Km than any Western Nation
Literally for The UK Now finds itself stood upon the platform as the train rapidly disappears out of sight
The UK Tempest is already a ‘ Dead Duck ‘
And a Hideously expensive one just like HS2
Their are many many more areas of vital economic affairs where China is leaving the field behind
A US think tank recently published a paper and shockingly found that in the areas of the highest economic development essential for future success of any economy that of the 10 Most vital areas that China had a lead in 7 of them and if current progress maintained ( China currently pouring more and more resources into all these areas ) then it is not a case of but when China gains supremacy in all areas
The West politically, societyly and economically now find that once they were the hare and China the tortoise
That indeed as technology leaps and bounds growing expodentially
Tis China that is not a Hare but akin to a prize racing Greyhound
And The West not the tortoise but a old
Worn out collapsing Elephant who,s days
Are now coming to a end
Sorry folks too late to wake up now
Accept and work cooperatively with China or be left To Wither and die in terms of Geopolitical matters of economics and Military
Well said. Most people I have spoken to in the West still think that China is a cheap workshop making knock-off products at cut-prices.
They have not noticed that China is becoming No1 innovator. They registered more patents on solar panels than the rest of the world, I understand.
They have an advanced space-station – built because the US refused to let them participate in the ISS.
They’ve developed advanced chips because the US put sanctions on those.
They spotted the rise of EVs so long ago they dominate the battery market.
Ho Hum.
They aren’t as smart as you think they are then. EVs are NOT the future, and if you care to check out the number of EV fires in China, it is ‘interesting’ to put it mildly.
The threat of China has always been the stupidity of our leaders. When Nixon first started to approach China I pointed out what I thought was the most pertinent fact and mistake we were making.
“China is in the business of politics, the West in the politics of business.”
OR probably put more memorably before I came up with that, though by whom remains a mystery.
“The last capitalist we hang shall be the one who sold us the rope.”
Try researching the ‘quality’ of those patent applications.
https://www.iptechblog.com/2021/02/new-procedures-indicate-chinas-patent-system-is-now-focused-on-quality-not-quantity-of-patents/
Now, so they say, the quality is what they are after. IF they were so smart, they wouldn’t have built so many ghost cities and squandered billions.
They are a danger no doubt, but personally, the Net Zero/Woke cults of the West are more dangerous.
We’ll have so rotted the society of the West they won’t need vast amounts of any military hardware. A wind over 56mph shutting down are ‘windmill powered grid’ or no wind will manage the economic collapse.
The Ladies with b@ll5 and associated equipment will bring down society. China & the BRICS simply have to wait a few years IF both insanities continue.
Doubtless Net zero/Woke cults are just that, but don’t forget that the CCP funds these and promotes them through TikTok (banned in China, natch) and the CCP makes/subsidises windmills and all those wonderful “green” power grid items too…
Trebles all round!
But West does not need EVs.
For a start we don’t have national and local grid capacity for it or generating capacity.
We are committing economic suicide on the altar of moronic net zero.
Main problem for humanity is overpopulation in Muslim and African countries.
About 4 billion of useless people.
Devouring planet like locust.
This sounds so much like the US Industrial Military Complex assessment of the Russian Military and Navy just before they asked for billions to combat them and yet another Russian sub blew itself up underwater.
I can’t remember where I read an article on the AUKUS deal, possibly Unherd, but in the article it was pointed out that the reason for the Chinese anger at Australia was they’d get the same tech as the UK/US had in submarine warfare.
The author pointed out how the US MIC always ‘puffed up’ the enemy to keep up the levels of investment. They also claimed that US/UK nuclear subs regularly shadowed unsuspecting Chinese ones, but the US MIC was forever claiming the Chinese were about to ‘leapfrog’ the best the US had.
It was forever thus, how many times were we told of the superiority of the modern Russian fighter bombers – where are they in Ukraine?
Or those “Modern” Russian tanks?
Or more specious still, Ukraine is winning!
As with Russia, much of what China has is ‘stolen’ – remember the Concordski?
You can’t believe much of what comes out of the US, never mind China.
Before COVID actually ended up in the accidental experimental Petri dish of the Diamond Princess, where ALL the world, had it bothered, could have seen it wasn’t the New Black Death, China had videos galore of people collapsing in the street. So called bodies everywhere and Hazmat teams collecting them. Next they tell us their COVID death toll was?
(according to worldometers web site)
5,272
As far as I am concerned, that is about as believable as their super stealth fighter achieving what you claim it achieved or Biden having nowt to do with his son’s money. Made in Ukraine.
Vocous nonsense from China stooge.
Reality is if USA stopped oil and food supplies to China, China is gone within few months.
The J20 stealth fighter is based on stolen USA designs.
I accept that West is guilty of appeasing China.
The good starting point would be to expell Chinese students from Western Universities, unless they study gender and other woke subjects.
And clearing out Chinese stooges from business, politics, civil service and universities.
Obviously, it is not likely to happen.
But it does not mean that it would be desirable outcome.
Are you OK?
Toady.