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Sharon Overy
Sharon Overy
8 months ago

This was a very enjoyable article, Andrew. Informative, too – I’d not heard of Ms Benson before, and even though I’m really not keen on Suffragettes, I intend to give her work a go.
Thank you.

Sharon Overy
Sharon Overy
8 months ago

This was a very enjoyable article, Andrew. Informative, too – I’d not heard of Ms Benson before, and even though I’m really not keen on Suffragettes, I intend to give her work a go.
Thank you.

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
8 months ago

In eulogising the pose prose of his almost-forgotten subject, Andrew Doyle isn’t short of a pithy phrase:

“…activists masquerading as academics…”

Quite.

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
8 months ago

In eulogising the pose prose of his almost-forgotten subject, Andrew Doyle isn’t short of a pithy phrase:

“…activists masquerading as academics…”

Quite.

J Bryant
J Bryant
8 months ago

I thought this was a fine article and introduction to an overlooked writer. Surprisingly, her books are available on Amazon. I thought because of her “problematic” beliefs her books might have been cancelled.

Arkadian X
Arkadian X
8 months ago
Reply to  J Bryant

Very likely you can get the ebook version for free.

Just checked. Indeed you can. “I pose” is there. I am tempted to read it because the one reviewer on Amazon says the “island scene” is full of racism. Better hurry before it gets purged.

N Satori
N Satori
8 months ago
Reply to  Arkadian X

I did hurry and I did download the ebook.
A quick search reveals extensive use of what we are now obliged to call “the N-word”. Without reading the whole novel (life’s too short) I can say that the view of “Ns” is generally quite caricatured and not very respectful. Probably typical of that era. Working class Londoners get similar treatment “…a world dotted with sentimental cockneyism” or “The vulgarly tuneful swan-songs of cockney emotion”.
By the way, I was not abhorred.

Last edited 8 months ago by N Satori
N Satori
N Satori
8 months ago
Reply to  Arkadian X

I did hurry and I did download the ebook.
A quick search reveals extensive use of what we are now obliged to call “the N-word”. Without reading the whole novel (life’s too short) I can say that the view of “Ns” is generally quite caricatured and not very respectful. Probably typical of that era. Working class Londoners get similar treatment “…a world dotted with sentimental cockneyism” or “The vulgarly tuneful swan-songs of cockney emotion”.
By the way, I was not abhorred.

Last edited 8 months ago by N Satori
Arkadian X
Arkadian X
8 months ago
Reply to  J Bryant

Very likely you can get the ebook version for free.

Just checked. Indeed you can. “I pose” is there. I am tempted to read it because the one reviewer on Amazon says the “island scene” is full of racism. Better hurry before it gets purged.

J Bryant
J Bryant
8 months ago

I thought this was a fine article and introduction to an overlooked writer. Surprisingly, her books are available on Amazon. I thought because of her “problematic” beliefs her books might have been cancelled.

Arkadian X
Arkadian X
8 months ago

Andrew says:

“The later part of I Pose, located in the West Indies, contains descriptions of indigenous people that are *shocking* by today’s standards, and would doubtless see Benson dismissed as a *racist*. Her narrator certainly holds views that are *rightly abhorred today*…”

And here comes the obligatory disclaimer again. Why does Andrew feel the need to spell it out so clumsily, when he can usually write with such delicacy?

Arkadian X
Arkadian X
8 months ago

Andrew says:

“The later part of I Pose, located in the West Indies, contains descriptions of indigenous people that are *shocking* by today’s standards, and would doubtless see Benson dismissed as a *racist*. Her narrator certainly holds views that are *rightly abhorred today*…”

And here comes the obligatory disclaimer again. Why does Andrew feel the need to spell it out so clumsily, when he can usually write with such delicacy?

N Satori
N Satori
8 months ago

Much as I admire Andrew Doyle, I can’t say his enthusiasm for this neglected author is infectious – it certainly doesn’t infect me. Almost all the quotes he provides exhibit that annoyingly haughty and supercilious wit essential for membership of the English intellectual class. For example this bit of Oscar Wilde-esque:

From careful study of press reviews I gather that a story is considered a necessary thing in a novel, so this time I am going to try and include one.

However, when Doyle tells us that:

The later part of I Pose, located in the West Indies, contains descriptions of indigenous people that are shocking by today’s standards…

and:

Her narrator certainly holds views that are rightly abhorred today,

Ah, that word ‘rightly’ – no morally sound person could possibly fail to be abhorred (could they?). Still, a sample or two might have been interesting. Who knows, shocking or not, whatever ‘poses’ Benson perceived in these indigenous people may be quite telling (if we put aside our protective moral filter).

Last edited 8 months ago by N Satori
Arkadian X
Arkadian X
8 months ago
Reply to  N Satori

I found that “rightly” quite grating too. I even commented on it before reading your comment.

Arkadian X
Arkadian X
8 months ago
Reply to  N Satori

I found that “rightly” quite grating too. I even commented on it before reading your comment.

N Satori
N Satori
8 months ago

Much as I admire Andrew Doyle, I can’t say his enthusiasm for this neglected author is infectious – it certainly doesn’t infect me. Almost all the quotes he provides exhibit that annoyingly haughty and supercilious wit essential for membership of the English intellectual class. For example this bit of Oscar Wilde-esque:

From careful study of press reviews I gather that a story is considered a necessary thing in a novel, so this time I am going to try and include one.

However, when Doyle tells us that:

The later part of I Pose, located in the West Indies, contains descriptions of indigenous people that are shocking by today’s standards…

and:

Her narrator certainly holds views that are rightly abhorred today,

Ah, that word ‘rightly’ – no morally sound person could possibly fail to be abhorred (could they?). Still, a sample or two might have been interesting. Who knows, shocking or not, whatever ‘poses’ Benson perceived in these indigenous people may be quite telling (if we put aside our protective moral filter).

Last edited 8 months ago by N Satori
Simon Neale
Simon Neale
8 months ago

Her narrator certainly holds views that are rightly abhorred today, but the fact that no contemporary reviews of the novel commented upon these features should be sufficient evidence that they were unremarkable at the time

Here, in a nutshell, is the paradox of modern engaged academia: the claim that all apparent essences and verities are merely the expressions of particular circumstances, coupled with the insistence that only our enlightened times allow us to see things sub specie aeternitatis.

Simon Neale
Simon Neale
8 months ago

Her narrator certainly holds views that are rightly abhorred today, but the fact that no contemporary reviews of the novel commented upon these features should be sufficient evidence that they were unremarkable at the time

Here, in a nutshell, is the paradox of modern engaged academia: the claim that all apparent essences and verities are merely the expressions of particular circumstances, coupled with the insistence that only our enlightened times allow us to see things sub specie aeternitatis.

Simon
Simon
8 months ago

Was she related to the Benson clan that produced an Archbishop of Canterbury? A niece, or daughter perhaps. The Benson clan were a queer lot (in all senses of the word) and wonderfully inventive.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
8 months ago
Reply to  Simon

Apparently not I’m afraid.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
8 months ago
Reply to  Simon

Apparently not I’m afraid.

Simon
Simon
8 months ago

Was she related to the Benson clan that produced an Archbishop of Canterbury? A niece, or daughter perhaps. The Benson clan were a queer lot (in all senses of the word) and wonderfully inventive.

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
8 months ago

Benson’s photo has been reminding me of someone all day, and i’ve just realised who…
Gavin Williamson!

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
8 months ago
Reply to  Steve Murray

Specsavers for you Sir!

ps.Don’t you mean SIR Gavin Williamson?

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Steve Murray
Steve Murray
8 months ago

I’m uncertain if there’s ever been a less deserved knighthood. From now on, i’ll think of him as Dame Stella. At least that’s an improvement on Frank Spencer!

Steve Murray
Steve Murray
8 months ago

I’m uncertain if there’s ever been a less deserved knighthood. From now on, i’ll think of him as Dame Stella. At least that’s an improvement on Frank Spencer!

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
8 months ago
Reply to  Steve Murray

Specsavers for you Sir!

ps.Don’t you mean SIR Gavin Williamson?

Last edited 8 months ago by Charles Stanhope
Steve Murray
Steve Murray
8 months ago

Benson’s photo has been reminding me of someone all day, and i’ve just realised who…
Gavin Williamson!

FacRecte NilTime
FacRecte NilTime
8 months ago

Just caught up with this. Many thanks Andrew for such a deft introduction to an unfamiliar writer. Oh, and you were right to insert ‘rightly’. Yes it clangs. As it should. The past has always been a foreign country. It’s not anachronistic to acknowledge that.

Miriam Cotton
Miriam Cotton
8 months ago

A wonderful profile – looking forward to reading some of her books.