I can’t believe I am reading this in ” free speech” Western media and not a Soviet Pravda or Tass or Xinhua news agency. So anyone who opposes a proxy NATO war and the Democrat Deep State is a Putin shill. Maybe that’s why RFK Jr is raising record funds or is he too a Russia hand?
Atrocious nonsense article
Read the article. The author doesn’t call anyone a Putin shill, still less a traitor as some of the more dramatic commenters are saying.
He is reporting the facts about and presumed motivations of Westerners who move to Russia to support the Russian state. The worst he calls them is “useful idiots”.
The only clear opinion he expresses here is that the law should be clarified so that individual Westerners involved in foreign wars know what they’re getting into.
Maybe they feel Russia is fighting a just war. And there is no denial that Ukraine has battalions proudly displaying Nazi insignia who are even invited to speak at US universities. The author is descending into unreason when he attacks anyone with a different view as an ” useful idiot” deservous of being locked up. Troubling rationale for self proclaimed upholders of ” liberty” and ” free speech”. Definitely double standards for someone like me from the Global South . It’s “show me the cause and I show you the label”typical of Western humbug.
Maybe they feel Russia is fighting a just war. And there is no denial that Ukraine has battalions proudly displaying Nazi insignia who are even invited to speak at US universities. The author is descending into unreason when he attacks anyone with a different view as an ” useful idiot” deservous of being locked up. Troubling rationale for self proclaimed upholders of ” liberty” and ” free speech”. Definitely double standards for someone like me from the Global South . It’s “show me the cause and I show you the label”typical of Western humbug.
I really wish, the fools who bang on about a nato proxy war, could explain how USA apparently lured poor, dear Putin into invading Ukraine. Anyhow, when this war is over and Ukraine have won, the Putin supporters will feel SHAME and embarrassment for decades.
Maybe by ripping up past treaties and expanding NATO borders ever eastward. Or maybe it was staging the coup that led to the clown and coke head being installed as leader. Ukraine are not going to win without taking the whole world down. Which, at the moment, appears to be the plan.
Maybe by ripping up past treaties and expanding NATO borders ever eastward. Or maybe it was staging the coup that led to the clown and coke head being installed as leader. Ukraine are not going to win without taking the whole world down. Which, at the moment, appears to be the plan.
Read the article. The author doesn’t call anyone a Putin shill, still less a traitor as some of the more dramatic commenters are saying.
He is reporting the facts about and presumed motivations of Westerners who move to Russia to support the Russian state. The worst he calls them is “useful idiots”.
The only clear opinion he expresses here is that the law should be clarified so that individual Westerners involved in foreign wars know what they’re getting into.
I really wish, the fools who bang on about a nato proxy war, could explain how USA apparently lured poor, dear Putin into invading Ukraine. Anyhow, when this war is over and Ukraine have won, the Putin supporters will feel SHAME and embarrassment for decades.
Sayantani Gupta Jafa
10 months ago
I can’t believe I am reading this in ” free speech” Western media and not a Soviet Pravda or Tass or Xinhua news agency. So anyone who opposes a proxy NATO war and the Democrat Deep State is a Putin shill. Maybe that’s why RFK Jr is raising record funds or is he too a Russia hand?
Atrocious nonsense article
Rod McLaughlin
10 months ago
I’m no more a ‘traitor’ to Ukraine than I am to Israel. I’m not Ukrainian nor Israeli. Yet I have to pay tribute to support these countries, toward one of which I’m indifferent, and the other, hostile. If anyone’s a traitor, it’s the people who make me pay these taxes.
I couldn’t agree more. Why am I (and the rest of the British people) continually shaken down, under the implicit threat of State violence, by the thieving HMRC to fund these BS neoliberal forever-wars while our schools are grossly under-funded and the roads a mess of tyre-bursting potholes?
It is sickening.
As a high earner and therefore a high taxpayer, I have no objection with this government spending a tiny percentage of my taxes to try to halt a GENOCIDE in Europe. However, I am sickened that two thirds of my taxes go to paying an appalling health service and a welfare system that rewards idleness.
I couldn’t agree more. Why am I (and the rest of the British people) continually shaken down, under the implicit threat of State violence, by the thieving HMRC to fund these BS neoliberal forever-wars while our schools are grossly under-funded and the roads a mess of tyre-bursting potholes?
It is sickening.
As a high earner and therefore a high taxpayer, I have no objection with this government spending a tiny percentage of my taxes to try to halt a GENOCIDE in Europe. However, I am sickened that two thirds of my taxes go to paying an appalling health service and a welfare system that rewards idleness.
Rod McLaughlin
10 months ago
I’m no more a ‘traitor’ to Ukraine than I am to Israel. I’m not Ukrainian nor Israeli. Yet I have to pay tribute to support these countries, toward one of which I’m indifferent, and the other, hostile. If anyone’s a traitor, it’s the people who make me pay these taxes.
Christopher Barclay
10 months ago
No mention that many of the ‘idiots’ are people who have fallen foul of the military-intelligence dictatorship running the US. Dougan for example was investigated and probably framed because he knew too much about Epstein and the compromising videos of politicians and others having sex with underage girls – videos now presumably held by the FBI in a deep vault – and his own investigation into the unexplained assassination of Seth Rich – probably carried out to protect the Clinton crime family.
Christopher Barclay
10 months ago
No mention that many of the ‘idiots’ are people who have fallen foul of the military-intelligence dictatorship running the US. Dougan for example was investigated and probably framed because he knew too much about Epstein and the compromising videos of politicians and others having sex with underage girls – videos now presumably held by the FBI in a deep vault – and his own investigation into the unexplained assassination of Seth Rich – probably carried out to protect the Clinton crime family.
Dermot O'Sullivan
10 months ago
Would the following piece on Navalny’s situation have any impact on those who believe Ukraine should not be supported against the Putin regime?
Navalny and his family filed a lawsuit against his penal colony, demanding that Alexei be allowed visits from his loved ones. He has not seen his wife, children or parents for over a year. Even phone calls are prohibited for him, and his time for writing is being increasingly limited. Under the law, even the most dangerous criminals are allowed to communicate with their loved ones, but Navalny receives special treatment in the penal colony — they have been torturing him with solitude for months now. Here is what Alexei himself wrote about the lawsuit: I know all about our judicial system, so I have no illusions about this. It’s a matter of principle: I have the right to see my relatives at least a couple of times a year. It’s also a matter of the future: someday, even if it’s years from now, these cases will be reviewed by a fair court. So I would like that future fair court to have all the necessary files at hand.
Dermot O'Sullivan
10 months ago
Would the following piece on Navalny’s situation have any impact on those who believe Ukraine should not be supported against the Putin regime?
Navalny and his family filed a lawsuit against his penal colony, demanding that Alexei be allowed visits from his loved ones. He has not seen his wife, children or parents for over a year. Even phone calls are prohibited for him, and his time for writing is being increasingly limited. Under the law, even the most dangerous criminals are allowed to communicate with their loved ones, but Navalny receives special treatment in the penal colony — they have been torturing him with solitude for months now. Here is what Alexei himself wrote about the lawsuit: I know all about our judicial system, so I have no illusions about this. It’s a matter of principle: I have the right to see my relatives at least a couple of times a year. It’s also a matter of the future: someday, even if it’s years from now, these cases will be reviewed by a fair court. So I would like that future fair court to have all the necessary files at hand.
Andrew Boughton
10 months ago
Does the author have any personal connections with people in Ukraine or Russia?
Andrew Boughton
10 months ago
Does the author have any personal connections with people in Ukraine or Russia?
Dumetrius
10 months ago
Conclusion in last para isn’t justified by what’s said prior to it.
If anything from Western governments perspective, it’d be better to keep the whole thing very cloudy, since leaving them to rot is certainly a warning, may well be intentional, and who actually wants these people back?
Last edited 10 months ago by Dumetrius
Dumetrius
10 months ago
Conclusion in last para isn’t justified by what’s said prior to it.
If anything from Western governments perspective, it’d be better to keep the whole thing very cloudy, since leaving them to rot is certainly a warning, may well be intentional, and who actually wants these people back?
Last edited 10 months ago by Dumetrius
Katherine Finn
10 months ago
*”uninterested”. “Disinterested” means impartial, unbiased. “Uninterested” means having no interest in something.
Katherine Finn
10 months ago
*”uninterested”. “Disinterested” means impartial, unbiased. “Uninterested” means having no interest in something.
Emmanuel MARTIN
10 months ago
This is funny speculation until you remember European courts have been forcing French government to repatriate jihadi families who went to join ISIS with their familes.
I really doubt this precedent can be ignored.
Emmanuel MARTIN
10 months ago
This is funny speculation until you remember European courts have been forcing French government to repatriate jihadi families who went to join ISIS with their familes.
I really doubt this precedent can be ignored.
Jim Veenbaas
10 months ago
IDK. The author seems to be getting a little ahead of himself here. I have mixed feelings about the west using the invasion as pretext for a proxy war, but I have zero sympathy and little interest in the handful of malcontents who have sided with Putin. There will be multiple ways to bring justice to these people should they decide to ever return home.
What do you mean ‘bring to justice’? Despite their long-term strategy of encirclement and ‘regime change’, Balkanisation and resource-extraction (openly admitted 30 years ago in the form of the Wolfowitz Doctrine), the USSA (and its UK puppet) are not yet formally at war with Russia. If a free-born citizen of either chooses to soldier for a foreign government – whether it be the Swazis, Nepalese or the French – then it absolutely no legitimate business of the Justice (!) Dept or the CPS.
Of course, both these entities lost all legitmacy years ago: for 30-40 years now, they have been little but bludgeons to batter or intimidate the Deep State’s ideological enemies.
And whaddya mean, ‘propagandists’? People who happen to see the world differently from Nancy Pelosi, Larry Fink and Bill Kristol? People who – by departing a west that disgusts them – are making Stumbly Joe & Co ‘look bad’?
In any case, the new refuseniks taking refuge in the nation of Russia aren’t the ‘idiots’ here. No, Ling, the idiot here is you – and a delusional one at that. $40 trillion in US Govt debt, now, and where has the money gone? Where has the industry gone? Where have middle class standards of living gone, you neoliberal stooge? What is the Goldman Sachs-Blackrock-Biden regime, if not ‘kleptocratic’?
You sneer at the critics of western degeneracy, but it is an empirically observable fact that they are absolutely correct. Just look at Portland, Marseille, Malmo, Molenbeek… even Lausanne now, FFS. State-sponsored Stonewall indoctrination of children. A whole month of every year of Pride Inc. Record taxes and potholed roads. More mass immigration, when the voters have been saying NO for years. Falling incomes. Beggars everywhere. Nut Zero about to make it all far worse. ‘The West’ is turning into a poor, angry, lawless third world wasteland right before our eyes.
Not a problem they have in Russia, though. But thanks for the Serphukhov tip: I’ll be looking into that…
If you hate the moral degeneracy taking place in the west right now, move to Poland or Hungary. I was talking to a friend just yesterday who is contemplating moving to Thailand for that very reason. Don’t move to Russia and shill for Putin. I might have concerns that the west is using Ukraine to fight a proxy war, but that’s not a justification for Putin invading another country.
If you hate the moral degeneracy taking place in the west right now, move to Poland or Hungary. I was talking to a friend just yesterday who is contemplating moving to Thailand for that very reason. Don’t move to Russia and shill for Putin. I might have concerns that the west is using Ukraine to fight a proxy war, but that’s not a justification for Putin invading another country.
What do you mean ‘bring to justice’? Despite their long-term strategy of encirclement and ‘regime change’, Balkanisation and resource-extraction (openly admitted 30 years ago in the form of the Wolfowitz Doctrine), the USSA (and its UK puppet) are not yet formally at war with Russia. If a free-born citizen of either chooses to soldier for a foreign government – whether it be the Swazis, Nepalese or the French – then it absolutely no legitimate business of the Justice (!) Dept or the CPS.
Of course, both these entities lost all legitmacy years ago: for 30-40 years now, they have been little but bludgeons to batter or intimidate the Deep State’s ideological enemies.
And whaddya mean, ‘propagandists’? People who happen to see the world differently from Nancy Pelosi, Larry Fink and Bill Kristol? People who – by departing a west that disgusts them – are making Stumbly Joe & Co ‘look bad’?
In any case, the new refuseniks taking refuge in the nation of Russia aren’t the ‘idiots’ here. No, Ling, the idiot here is you – and a delusional one at that. $40 trillion in US Govt debt, now, and where has the money gone? Where has the industry gone? Where have middle class standards of living gone, you neoliberal stooge? What is the Goldman Sachs-Blackrock-Biden regime, if not ‘kleptocratic’?
You sneer at the critics of western degeneracy, but it is an empirically observable fact that they are absolutely correct. Just look at Portland, Marseille, Malmo, Molenbeek… even Lausanne now, FFS. State-sponsored Stonewall indoctrination of children. A whole month of every year of Pride Inc. Record taxes and potholed roads. More mass immigration, when the voters have been saying NO for years. Falling incomes. Beggars everywhere. Nut Zero about to make it all far worse. ‘The West’ is turning into a poor, angry, lawless third world wasteland right before our eyes.
Not a problem they have in Russia, though. But thanks for the Serphukhov tip: I’ll be looking into that…
Last edited 10 months ago by Peter Joy
Jim Veenbaas
10 months ago
IDK. The author seems to be getting a little ahead of himself here. I have mixed feelings about the west using the invasion as pretext for a proxy war, but I have zero sympathy and little interest in the handful of malcontents who have sided with Putin. There will be multiple ways to bring justice to these people should they decide to ever return home.
Simon Blanchard
10 months ago
I’d be more interested in rooting out Putin’s useful idiots in the British establishment, most notably Boris Johnson and his pals. And please, no lectures about “world-leading” support for Zelensky. That was simply opportunism.
Simon Blanchard
10 months ago
I’d be more interested in rooting out Putin’s useful idiots in the British establishment, most notably Boris Johnson and his pals. And please, no lectures about “world-leading” support for Zelensky. That was simply opportunism.
I can’t believe I am reading this in ” free speech” Western media and not a Soviet Pravda or Tass or Xinhua news agency. So anyone who opposes a proxy NATO war and the Democrat Deep State is a Putin shill. Maybe that’s why RFK Jr is raising record funds or is he too a Russia hand?
Atrocious nonsense article
I couldn’t agree more.
Unherd has a broken brain when it comes to Ukraine, sadly.
Read the article. The author doesn’t call anyone a Putin shill, still less a traitor as some of the more dramatic commenters are saying.
He is reporting the facts about and presumed motivations of Westerners who move to Russia to support the Russian state. The worst he calls them is “useful idiots”.
The only clear opinion he expresses here is that the law should be clarified so that individual Westerners involved in foreign wars know what they’re getting into.
Maybe they feel Russia is fighting a just war. And there is no denial that Ukraine has battalions proudly displaying Nazi insignia who are even invited to speak at US universities. The author is descending into unreason when he attacks anyone with a different view as an ” useful idiot” deservous of being locked up. Troubling rationale for self proclaimed upholders of ” liberty” and ” free speech”. Definitely double standards for someone like me from the Global South . It’s “show me the cause and I show you the label”typical of Western humbug.
Maybe they feel Russia is fighting a just war. And there is no denial that Ukraine has battalions proudly displaying Nazi insignia who are even invited to speak at US universities. The author is descending into unreason when he attacks anyone with a different view as an ” useful idiot” deservous of being locked up. Troubling rationale for self proclaimed upholders of ” liberty” and ” free speech”. Definitely double standards for someone like me from the Global South . It’s “show me the cause and I show you the label”typical of Western humbug.
I really wish, the fools who bang on about a nato proxy war, could explain how USA apparently lured poor, dear Putin into invading Ukraine. Anyhow, when this war is over and Ukraine have won, the Putin supporters will feel SHAME and embarrassment for decades.
Maybe by ripping up past treaties and expanding NATO borders ever eastward. Or maybe it was staging the coup that led to the clown and coke head being installed as leader. Ukraine are not going to win without taking the whole world down. Which, at the moment, appears to be the plan.
Maybe by ripping up past treaties and expanding NATO borders ever eastward. Or maybe it was staging the coup that led to the clown and coke head being installed as leader. Ukraine are not going to win without taking the whole world down. Which, at the moment, appears to be the plan.
I couldn’t agree more.
Unherd has a broken brain when it comes to Ukraine, sadly.
Read the article. The author doesn’t call anyone a Putin shill, still less a traitor as some of the more dramatic commenters are saying.
He is reporting the facts about and presumed motivations of Westerners who move to Russia to support the Russian state. The worst he calls them is “useful idiots”.
The only clear opinion he expresses here is that the law should be clarified so that individual Westerners involved in foreign wars know what they’re getting into.
I really wish, the fools who bang on about a nato proxy war, could explain how USA apparently lured poor, dear Putin into invading Ukraine. Anyhow, when this war is over and Ukraine have won, the Putin supporters will feel SHAME and embarrassment for decades.
I can’t believe I am reading this in ” free speech” Western media and not a Soviet Pravda or Tass or Xinhua news agency. So anyone who opposes a proxy NATO war and the Democrat Deep State is a Putin shill. Maybe that’s why RFK Jr is raising record funds or is he too a Russia hand?
Atrocious nonsense article
I’m no more a ‘traitor’ to Ukraine than I am to Israel. I’m not Ukrainian nor Israeli. Yet I have to pay tribute to support these countries, toward one of which I’m indifferent, and the other, hostile. If anyone’s a traitor, it’s the people who make me pay these taxes.
I couldn’t agree more. Why am I (and the rest of the British people) continually shaken down, under the implicit threat of State violence, by the thieving HMRC to fund these BS neoliberal forever-wars while our schools are grossly under-funded and the roads a mess of tyre-bursting potholes?
It is sickening.
Oh you poor thing, so oppressed!
Oh you poor thing, so oppressed!
As a high earner and therefore a high taxpayer, I have no objection with this government spending a tiny percentage of my taxes to try to halt a GENOCIDE in Europe. However, I am sickened that two thirds of my taxes go to paying an appalling health service and a welfare system that rewards idleness.
I couldn’t agree more. Why am I (and the rest of the British people) continually shaken down, under the implicit threat of State violence, by the thieving HMRC to fund these BS neoliberal forever-wars while our schools are grossly under-funded and the roads a mess of tyre-bursting potholes?
It is sickening.
As a high earner and therefore a high taxpayer, I have no objection with this government spending a tiny percentage of my taxes to try to halt a GENOCIDE in Europe. However, I am sickened that two thirds of my taxes go to paying an appalling health service and a welfare system that rewards idleness.
I’m no more a ‘traitor’ to Ukraine than I am to Israel. I’m not Ukrainian nor Israeli. Yet I have to pay tribute to support these countries, toward one of which I’m indifferent, and the other, hostile. If anyone’s a traitor, it’s the people who make me pay these taxes.
No mention that many of the ‘idiots’ are people who have fallen foul of the military-intelligence dictatorship running the US. Dougan for example was investigated and probably framed because he knew too much about Epstein and the compromising videos of politicians and others having sex with underage girls – videos now presumably held by the FBI in a deep vault – and his own investigation into the unexplained assassination of Seth Rich – probably carried out to protect the Clinton crime family.
No mention that many of the ‘idiots’ are people who have fallen foul of the military-intelligence dictatorship running the US. Dougan for example was investigated and probably framed because he knew too much about Epstein and the compromising videos of politicians and others having sex with underage girls – videos now presumably held by the FBI in a deep vault – and his own investigation into the unexplained assassination of Seth Rich – probably carried out to protect the Clinton crime family.
Would the following piece on Navalny’s situation have any impact on those who believe Ukraine should not be supported against the Putin regime?
Navalny and his family filed a lawsuit against his penal colony, demanding that Alexei be allowed visits from his loved ones. He has not seen his wife, children or parents for over a year. Even phone calls are prohibited for him, and his time for writing is being increasingly limited. Under the law, even the most dangerous criminals are allowed to communicate with their loved ones, but Navalny receives special treatment in the penal colony — they have been torturing him with solitude for months now. Here is what Alexei himself wrote about the lawsuit: I know all about our judicial system, so I have no illusions about this. It’s a matter of principle: I have the right to see my relatives at least a couple of times a year. It’s also a matter of the future: someday, even if it’s years from now, these cases will be reviewed by a fair court. So I would like that future fair court to have all the necessary files at hand.
Would the following piece on Navalny’s situation have any impact on those who believe Ukraine should not be supported against the Putin regime?
Navalny and his family filed a lawsuit against his penal colony, demanding that Alexei be allowed visits from his loved ones. He has not seen his wife, children or parents for over a year. Even phone calls are prohibited for him, and his time for writing is being increasingly limited. Under the law, even the most dangerous criminals are allowed to communicate with their loved ones, but Navalny receives special treatment in the penal colony — they have been torturing him with solitude for months now. Here is what Alexei himself wrote about the lawsuit: I know all about our judicial system, so I have no illusions about this. It’s a matter of principle: I have the right to see my relatives at least a couple of times a year. It’s also a matter of the future: someday, even if it’s years from now, these cases will be reviewed by a fair court. So I would like that future fair court to have all the necessary files at hand.
Does the author have any personal connections with people in Ukraine or Russia?
Does the author have any personal connections with people in Ukraine or Russia?
Conclusion in last para isn’t justified by what’s said prior to it.
If anything from Western governments perspective, it’d be better to keep the whole thing very cloudy, since leaving them to rot is certainly a warning, may well be intentional, and who actually wants these people back?
Conclusion in last para isn’t justified by what’s said prior to it.
If anything from Western governments perspective, it’d be better to keep the whole thing very cloudy, since leaving them to rot is certainly a warning, may well be intentional, and who actually wants these people back?
*”uninterested”. “Disinterested” means impartial, unbiased. “Uninterested” means having no interest in something.
*”uninterested”. “Disinterested” means impartial, unbiased. “Uninterested” means having no interest in something.
This is funny speculation until you remember European courts have been forcing French government to repatriate jihadi families who went to join ISIS with their familes.
I really doubt this precedent can be ignored.
This is funny speculation until you remember European courts have been forcing French government to repatriate jihadi families who went to join ISIS with their familes.
I really doubt this precedent can be ignored.
IDK. The author seems to be getting a little ahead of himself here. I have mixed feelings about the west using the invasion as pretext for a proxy war, but I have zero sympathy and little interest in the handful of malcontents who have sided with Putin. There will be multiple ways to bring justice to these people should they decide to ever return home.
What do you mean ‘bring to justice’? Despite their long-term strategy of encirclement and ‘regime change’, Balkanisation and resource-extraction (openly admitted 30 years ago in the form of the Wolfowitz Doctrine), the USSA (and its UK puppet) are not yet formally at war with Russia. If a free-born citizen of either chooses to soldier for a foreign government – whether it be the Swazis, Nepalese or the French – then it absolutely no legitimate business of the Justice (!) Dept or the CPS.
Of course, both these entities lost all legitmacy years ago: for 30-40 years now, they have been little but bludgeons to batter or intimidate the Deep State’s ideological enemies.
And whaddya mean, ‘propagandists’? People who happen to see the world differently from Nancy Pelosi, Larry Fink and Bill Kristol? People who – by departing a west that disgusts them – are making Stumbly Joe & Co ‘look bad’?
In any case, the new refuseniks taking refuge in the nation of Russia aren’t the ‘idiots’ here. No, Ling, the idiot here is you – and a delusional one at that. $40 trillion in US Govt debt, now, and where has the money gone? Where has the industry gone? Where have middle class standards of living gone, you neoliberal stooge? What is the Goldman Sachs-Blackrock-Biden regime, if not ‘kleptocratic’?
You sneer at the critics of western degeneracy, but it is an empirically observable fact that they are absolutely correct. Just look at Portland, Marseille, Malmo, Molenbeek… even Lausanne now, FFS. State-sponsored Stonewall indoctrination of children. A whole month of every year of Pride Inc. Record taxes and potholed roads. More mass immigration, when the voters have been saying NO for years. Falling incomes. Beggars everywhere. Nut Zero about to make it all far worse. ‘The West’ is turning into a poor, angry, lawless third world wasteland right before our eyes.
Not a problem they have in Russia, though. But thanks for the Serphukhov tip: I’ll be looking into that…
If you hate the moral degeneracy taking place in the west right now, move to Poland or Hungary. I was talking to a friend just yesterday who is contemplating moving to Thailand for that very reason. Don’t move to Russia and shill for Putin. I might have concerns that the west is using Ukraine to fight a proxy war, but that’s not a justification for Putin invading another country.
If you hate the moral degeneracy taking place in the west right now, move to Poland or Hungary. I was talking to a friend just yesterday who is contemplating moving to Thailand for that very reason. Don’t move to Russia and shill for Putin. I might have concerns that the west is using Ukraine to fight a proxy war, but that’s not a justification for Putin invading another country.
What do you mean ‘bring to justice’? Despite their long-term strategy of encirclement and ‘regime change’, Balkanisation and resource-extraction (openly admitted 30 years ago in the form of the Wolfowitz Doctrine), the USSA (and its UK puppet) are not yet formally at war with Russia. If a free-born citizen of either chooses to soldier for a foreign government – whether it be the Swazis, Nepalese or the French – then it absolutely no legitimate business of the Justice (!) Dept or the CPS.
Of course, both these entities lost all legitmacy years ago: for 30-40 years now, they have been little but bludgeons to batter or intimidate the Deep State’s ideological enemies.
And whaddya mean, ‘propagandists’? People who happen to see the world differently from Nancy Pelosi, Larry Fink and Bill Kristol? People who – by departing a west that disgusts them – are making Stumbly Joe & Co ‘look bad’?
In any case, the new refuseniks taking refuge in the nation of Russia aren’t the ‘idiots’ here. No, Ling, the idiot here is you – and a delusional one at that. $40 trillion in US Govt debt, now, and where has the money gone? Where has the industry gone? Where have middle class standards of living gone, you neoliberal stooge? What is the Goldman Sachs-Blackrock-Biden regime, if not ‘kleptocratic’?
You sneer at the critics of western degeneracy, but it is an empirically observable fact that they are absolutely correct. Just look at Portland, Marseille, Malmo, Molenbeek… even Lausanne now, FFS. State-sponsored Stonewall indoctrination of children. A whole month of every year of Pride Inc. Record taxes and potholed roads. More mass immigration, when the voters have been saying NO for years. Falling incomes. Beggars everywhere. Nut Zero about to make it all far worse. ‘The West’ is turning into a poor, angry, lawless third world wasteland right before our eyes.
Not a problem they have in Russia, though. But thanks for the Serphukhov tip: I’ll be looking into that…
IDK. The author seems to be getting a little ahead of himself here. I have mixed feelings about the west using the invasion as pretext for a proxy war, but I have zero sympathy and little interest in the handful of malcontents who have sided with Putin. There will be multiple ways to bring justice to these people should they decide to ever return home.
I’d be more interested in rooting out Putin’s useful idiots in the British establishment, most notably Boris Johnson and his pals. And please, no lectures about “world-leading” support for Zelensky. That was simply opportunism.
I’d be more interested in rooting out Putin’s useful idiots in the British establishment, most notably Boris Johnson and his pals. And please, no lectures about “world-leading” support for Zelensky. That was simply opportunism.