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Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
9 months ago

Charisma is that lightning in a bottle, that cannot be captured or tamed. How does one develop it? By being oneself, the very best version. Trump is being Trump. Obama was Obama. I have a feeling that DeSantis is trying to be Trump, but he fails the rule of charisma by so doing. He needs to be Ron DeSantis, and no one else. He’s better than good enough, just like that. For that matter, each of us should strive to be ourselves, the very best version of. No one else can do it better! 🙂

Last edited 9 months ago by Samuel Ross
Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
9 months ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

He’s not being remotely like Donald Trump and he is very definitely his own man, as those of us with the good fortune to live in Florida can attest.
These silly claims of a “lack of charisma” are media inventions because they can’t find fault with his superb management skills and record of success. We need a president who is serious, intelligent, affective, and has our best interests a his first priority, not a song and dance man.

Buena Vista
Buena Vista
9 months ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

The author of this piece is clearly a card-carrying progressive. Pay him no mind.

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
9 months ago
Reply to  Buena Vista

Way to go there, Mr. Tunnel Vision, I mean “Good View”

Alan Osband
Alan Osband
9 months ago
Reply to  Buena Vista

Definitely the case . See his article about the riots in France which could have been any progressive’s take on the riots in the US. And yet he is a professor of French history at Princeton ??
Unherd is seemingly trying to overcompensate for the previous lack of this sort of take on current affairs .

Last edited 9 months ago by Alan Osband
AJ Mac
AJ Mac
9 months ago
Reply to  Buena Vista

Way to go there, Mr. Tunnel Vision, I mean “Good View”

Alan Osband
Alan Osband
9 months ago
Reply to  Buena Vista

Definitely the case . See his article about the riots in France which could have been any progressive’s take on the riots in the US. And yet he is a professor of French history at Princeton ??
Unherd is seemingly trying to overcompensate for the previous lack of this sort of take on current affairs .

Last edited 9 months ago by Alan Osband
Allison Barrows
Allison Barrows
9 months ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

He’s not being remotely like Donald Trump and he is very definitely his own man, as those of us with the good fortune to live in Florida can attest.
These silly claims of a “lack of charisma” are media inventions because they can’t find fault with his superb management skills and record of success. We need a president who is serious, intelligent, affective, and has our best interests a his first priority, not a song and dance man.

Buena Vista
Buena Vista
9 months ago
Reply to  Samuel Ross

The author of this piece is clearly a card-carrying progressive. Pay him no mind.

Samuel Ross
Samuel Ross
9 months ago

Charisma is that lightning in a bottle, that cannot be captured or tamed. How does one develop it? By being oneself, the very best version. Trump is being Trump. Obama was Obama. I have a feeling that DeSantis is trying to be Trump, but he fails the rule of charisma by so doing. He needs to be Ron DeSantis, and no one else. He’s better than good enough, just like that. For that matter, each of us should strive to be ourselves, the very best version of. No one else can do it better! 🙂

Last edited 9 months ago by Samuel Ross
JJ Barnett
JJ Barnett
9 months ago

I was of the same opinion (DeSantis is a bit of a charisma-vacuum …a fun-sponge, if you will) but I saw him on Megyn Kelly’s podcast last week and I must say, he was a lot, lot more likeable in that longer format.

Megyn made comments to the effect that he should be doing a lot more of these long form interviews, as he is actually knowledgeable and coherent on a range of topics and the public aren’t really seeing that right now. I’d have to agree, based on how much better he came off in the MK interview vs how he’s come across in his lacklustre campaign so far.

It will be interesting to see if his campaign architects can figure out why the public liked him in the first place (competence and command of brief; willingness to get into dog fights with the press), and start putting those two things back up front and centre with a much wider range of media appearances. I agree with MK that he should be going on all the long form podcasts and shows that will have him, and he should be going on CNN and other hostile media and having arguments with them on their turf (as Vivek did, very well).

M Pennywise
M Pennywise
9 months ago
Reply to  JJ Barnett

Interesting insight. Seems like the strategy RFK is pursuing on the other side.

David Kingsworthy
David Kingsworthy
9 months ago
Reply to  JJ Barnett

Agreed, the MK interview was quite good, and his point within it that it’s still early is well-taken, there’s still time to grow his poll numbers. I happen to admire his laid-back approach to the question of charisma.

M Pennywise
M Pennywise
9 months ago
Reply to  JJ Barnett

Interesting insight. Seems like the strategy RFK is pursuing on the other side.

David Kingsworthy
David Kingsworthy
9 months ago
Reply to  JJ Barnett

Agreed, the MK interview was quite good, and his point within it that it’s still early is well-taken, there’s still time to grow his poll numbers. I happen to admire his laid-back approach to the question of charisma.

JJ Barnett
JJ Barnett
9 months ago

I was of the same opinion (DeSantis is a bit of a charisma-vacuum …a fun-sponge, if you will) but I saw him on Megyn Kelly’s podcast last week and I must say, he was a lot, lot more likeable in that longer format.

Megyn made comments to the effect that he should be doing a lot more of these long form interviews, as he is actually knowledgeable and coherent on a range of topics and the public aren’t really seeing that right now. I’d have to agree, based on how much better he came off in the MK interview vs how he’s come across in his lacklustre campaign so far.

It will be interesting to see if his campaign architects can figure out why the public liked him in the first place (competence and command of brief; willingness to get into dog fights with the press), and start putting those two things back up front and centre with a much wider range of media appearances. I agree with MK that he should be going on all the long form podcasts and shows that will have him, and he should be going on CNN and other hostile media and having arguments with them on their turf (as Vivek did, very well).

Kathleen Burnett
Kathleen Burnett
9 months ago

Charismatic leaders in a polarised society; what a topic! To transition peacefully from the polarised state to a more unified state (surely something we can all agree on), might not be achieved by a big, attractive personality, but just happen through social forces silently working within. How long can a country survive in a constant state of mutual hatred but still function efficiently? Perhaps we will just have to endure a little chaos, until even the crazies on both sides are forced against their most deeply held stupidities, into something resembling a society working to everyone’s mutual benefit. Pragmatism over ideology!

Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
9 months ago

Sensible post, but the schism in the US makes this unachievable. Various Trumpers want to secede from the US union, not have a more unified state. And too many on both sides get off on mutual hatred. Simple people prefer charisma over policies and prefer the adrenalin of feelings over the perceived tedium of pragmatism.

Warren Trees
Warren Trees
9 months ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

Is it any wonder why some people would want to secede when half the country is being vilified as “deplorables” or accused of being domestic terrorists by the one who promised to bring back civility and unity? The bumper stickers that read, “not my President” were printed after the founder of the internet, Al Gore (D) lost a few elections ago.

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
9 months ago
Reply to  Warren Trees

The other half are being vilified as some commie death squad in favor of pedophilia and genital mutilation surgery for children. Are the Jan. 6th Rioters–whatever your opinion of their wild, deliberate act–half the country? Are the most extreme trans-rights online cancel-crowd the other half?
I’m certainly well to the middle of both extreme wings, and so are a strong majority of all American voters…and should remain so as we don’t let younger teenagers or felons still incarcerated/on probation have the vote too.

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
9 months ago
Reply to  Warren Trees

The other half are being vilified as some commie death squad in favor of pedophilia and genital mutilation surgery for children. Are the Jan. 6th Rioters–whatever your opinion of their wild, deliberate act–half the country? Are the most extreme trans-rights online cancel-crowd the other half?
I’m certainly well to the middle of both extreme wings, and so are a strong majority of all American voters…and should remain so as we don’t let younger teenagers or felons still incarcerated/on probation have the vote too.

Warren Trees
Warren Trees
9 months ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

Is it any wonder why some people would want to secede when half the country is being vilified as “deplorables” or accused of being domestic terrorists by the one who promised to bring back civility and unity? The bumper stickers that read, “not my President” were printed after the founder of the internet, Al Gore (D) lost a few elections ago.

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
9 months ago

Thanks for your sensible post. I would only stipulate that pragmatism should be tempered with understanding & generosity of spirit, of the mutual sort you emphasize.

Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
9 months ago

Sensible post, but the schism in the US makes this unachievable. Various Trumpers want to secede from the US union, not have a more unified state. And too many on both sides get off on mutual hatred. Simple people prefer charisma over policies and prefer the adrenalin of feelings over the perceived tedium of pragmatism.

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
9 months ago

Thanks for your sensible post. I would only stipulate that pragmatism should be tempered with understanding & generosity of spirit, of the mutual sort you emphasize.

Kathleen Burnett
Kathleen Burnett
9 months ago

Charismatic leaders in a polarised society; what a topic! To transition peacefully from the polarised state to a more unified state (surely something we can all agree on), might not be achieved by a big, attractive personality, but just happen through social forces silently working within. How long can a country survive in a constant state of mutual hatred but still function efficiently? Perhaps we will just have to endure a little chaos, until even the crazies on both sides are forced against their most deeply held stupidities, into something resembling a society working to everyone’s mutual benefit. Pragmatism over ideology!

Daniel Lee
Daniel Lee
9 months ago

It’s not an obsession with charisma. It’s relief and enthusiasm at finally having a Republican leader (flaws and all) who is willing to go full-bore in the absolutely crucial struggle against opponents who are willing to use censorship (formal and informal) and government power in their drive to normalize men in drag interacting with children, schools sabotaging the authority of parents, a “news” media that has gone far, far beyond ordinary bias into the realm of flat-out dishonest agitprop, and radical environmental panic leading to a catastrophic shutdown of prosperous western modernity. Cultural conservatives rightly understand that this is probably their last chance to save the country as it has always existed before the great silence of mandatory compliance descends.

Daniel Lee
Daniel Lee
9 months ago

It’s not an obsession with charisma. It’s relief and enthusiasm at finally having a Republican leader (flaws and all) who is willing to go full-bore in the absolutely crucial struggle against opponents who are willing to use censorship (formal and informal) and government power in their drive to normalize men in drag interacting with children, schools sabotaging the authority of parents, a “news” media that has gone far, far beyond ordinary bias into the realm of flat-out dishonest agitprop, and radical environmental panic leading to a catastrophic shutdown of prosperous western modernity. Cultural conservatives rightly understand that this is probably their last chance to save the country as it has always existed before the great silence of mandatory compliance descends.

James Kirk
James Kirk
9 months ago

RDS is Florida, not held in high esteem across the USA. Boris, Blair, Trump and Farage have charisma, like them or not. The Biden supporterati have no time for charisma, they prefer to work via commissar and propaganda. Who in our Labour world would back Starmer if charisma was an issue?

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
9 months ago
Reply to  James Kirk

Not sure if you coined it but “supporterati” is quite good. The much farther-left Bernie Sanders has a version of charisma that he displayed while vying for the nomination, but his was more sustained intensity and shouting, without the Trumpy humor that many find funny in DJT (I occasionally do). I’d say Trump, Obama, Clinton, and Reagan are the presidents during my lifetime (since 1971) that had noteworthy charisma. And in lesser measure GWB, who squeaked it out vs. Al Gore the monotone wooden man.

AJ Mac
AJ Mac
9 months ago
Reply to  James Kirk

Not sure if you coined it but “supporterati” is quite good. The much farther-left Bernie Sanders has a version of charisma that he displayed while vying for the nomination, but his was more sustained intensity and shouting, without the Trumpy humor that many find funny in DJT (I occasionally do). I’d say Trump, Obama, Clinton, and Reagan are the presidents during my lifetime (since 1971) that had noteworthy charisma. And in lesser measure GWB, who squeaked it out vs. Al Gore the monotone wooden man.

James Kirk
James Kirk
9 months ago

RDS is Florida, not held in high esteem across the USA. Boris, Blair, Trump and Farage have charisma, like them or not. The Biden supporterati have no time for charisma, they prefer to work via commissar and propaganda. Who in our Labour world would back Starmer if charisma was an issue?

Simon Tavanyar
Simon Tavanyar
9 months ago

The notion that Biden is “doing a good job as President” betrays a willful ignorance of his cognitive capacity. Biden is scarcely able to finish a sentence unassisted, let alone run the most powerful administration in the world. Anyone who gets their news outside the Democrat news bubble fully understands what is going on here. The Biden administration is run by a hard left cabal which deliberately operates from the shadows. They like it that they can blame horrible optics on good ol’ Joe Biden’s senior moments.
The truth is that Democrats desperately want to run against Trump, the one man who can be disqualified in the minds of all independent voters, and their media allies will do anything to crush any Republican alternative. “No charisma” is just another example of mud-slinging to achieve that end.

Simon Tavanyar
Simon Tavanyar
9 months ago

The notion that Biden is “doing a good job as President” betrays a willful ignorance of his cognitive capacity. Biden is scarcely able to finish a sentence unassisted, let alone run the most powerful administration in the world. Anyone who gets their news outside the Democrat news bubble fully understands what is going on here. The Biden administration is run by a hard left cabal which deliberately operates from the shadows. They like it that they can blame horrible optics on good ol’ Joe Biden’s senior moments.
The truth is that Democrats desperately want to run against Trump, the one man who can be disqualified in the minds of all independent voters, and their media allies will do anything to crush any Republican alternative. “No charisma” is just another example of mud-slinging to achieve that end.

Carmel Shortall
Carmel Shortall
9 months ago

“Biden, whatever one thinks of him, has been a significant president with some important achievements to his name. He succeeded in passing a massive infrastructure bill and an “Inflation Reduction Act” which will allocate unprecedented sums to fight climate change.”

Pffft! Anyone who could write these two sentences has nothing whatsoever of interest to say…

There is too much of this plodding, blandly orthodox dim-wittedness coming out of Unherd lately. I might as well turn on the BBC or read the grauniad. *shivers*

Last edited 9 months ago by Carmel Shortall
Carmel Shortall
Carmel Shortall
9 months ago

“Biden, whatever one thinks of him, has been a significant president with some important achievements to his name. He succeeded in passing a massive infrastructure bill and an “Inflation Reduction Act” which will allocate unprecedented sums to fight climate change.”

Pffft! Anyone who could write these two sentences has nothing whatsoever of interest to say…

There is too much of this plodding, blandly orthodox dim-wittedness coming out of Unherd lately. I might as well turn on the BBC or read the grauniad. *shivers*

Last edited 9 months ago by Carmel Shortall
Laurel Kenner
Laurel Kenner
9 months ago

Excuse me, but this is condescending nonsense. Yes, Trump was illegally and unfairly targeted by sinister Leftists in the government. Yes he did some good in office. But that doesn’t make him a decent person like DeSantis. If Trump runs, he will lose because so many Republicans are so disgusted with his relentless narcissism. Whatever support he had after his disgraceful performance on Jan. 6 leaked away from he lost the Senate.

Laurel Kenner
Laurel Kenner
9 months ago

Excuse me, but this is condescending nonsense. Yes, Trump was illegally and unfairly targeted by sinister Leftists in the government. Yes he did some good in office. But that doesn’t make him a decent person like DeSantis. If Trump runs, he will lose because so many Republicans are so disgusted with his relentless narcissism. Whatever support he had after his disgraceful performance on Jan. 6 leaked away from he lost the Senate.

N T
N T
9 months ago

i really thought desantis was going to be The Man. Then, someone let him off the lead, and, he’s broken that possibility.
what strange turn it’s been since he led florida out of covid.

N T
N T
9 months ago

i really thought desantis was going to be The Man. Then, someone let him off the lead, and, he’s broken that possibility.
what strange turn it’s been since he led florida out of covid.

Ray Zacek
Ray Zacek
9 months ago

DeSantis is not charismatic. I know a journalist in Tampa who has been an astute observer of Florida politics for decades. He said DeSantis was the worse campaigner he’d seen in his career; DeSantis’ opponent in the last election, Charlie Crist, he regarded as one of the best campaigners in Florida politics; however, DeSantis won by twenty points. If DeSantis flails now I’d suggest the reasons are that dearth of charisma; the ability of Trump to suck all the oxygen out of the room via his ‘charisma’; lack of experience running a national campaign; and the fact that the Dems and the media regard DeSantis the way German u-boats regarded allied shipping during the war.

Last edited 9 months ago by Ray Zacek
Ray Zacek
Ray Zacek
9 months ago

DeSantis is not charismatic. I know a journalist in Tampa who has been an astute observer of Florida politics for decades. He said DeSantis was the worse campaigner he’d seen in his career; DeSantis’ opponent in the last election, Charlie Crist, he regarded as one of the best campaigners in Florida politics; however, DeSantis won by twenty points. If DeSantis flails now I’d suggest the reasons are that dearth of charisma; the ability of Trump to suck all the oxygen out of the room via his ‘charisma’; lack of experience running a national campaign; and the fact that the Dems and the media regard DeSantis the way German u-boats regarded allied shipping during the war.

Last edited 9 months ago by Ray Zacek
laura m
laura m
9 months ago

Disagree.