This is Azeri state propaganda, nothing more. It’s obviously the result of a state sponsored ‘fact finding’ mission. Well done, Unherd
Paul Devlin
10 months ago
This is Azeri state propaganda, nothing more. It’s obviously the result of a state sponsored ‘fact finding’ mission. Well done, Unherd
Cheryl Benard
10 months ago
An interesting model. In particular, Azerbaijan’s decision to build “smart villages” and “smart towns” and use the destruction to leapfrog their infrastructure is something that might work well for Ukraine too. Orlando W.: Ukraine is definitely not “over as a country” – the opposite is true. Putin has managed to forge them into a resolute country and to put them on the map for an international community that barely registered them before. Governments and companies are already scrambling to get in on the rebuild…
Cheryl Benard
10 months ago
An interesting model. In particular, Azerbaijan’s decision to build “smart villages” and “smart towns” and use the destruction to leapfrog their infrastructure is something that might work well for Ukraine too. Orlando W.: Ukraine is definitely not “over as a country” – the opposite is true. Putin has managed to forge them into a resolute country and to put them on the map for an international community that barely registered them before. Governments and companies are already scrambling to get in on the rebuild…
Orlando W.
10 months ago
This is a deranged perspective that fully omits (willfully?) the difference in scale. Fuzuli (cfr. wikipedia) covers ~1400 square km. Let’s say half of that is the city proper, which would need to be wholly rebuilt.
And you really want to sit here and tell me this operation could in any way be comparable to Ukraine, which has seen frontlines shift back and forth multiple times over a front that at some point equaled the Low Countries? What about all the critical infrastructure that has been destroyed beyond the frontline? A few carpenters are not going to cut it for that.
Do you really think that damage can be undone? Ukraine is over as a country. Sure, some rebuilding is bound to take place. But guess what another difference is? Azerbaijan is a prosperous country sitting on the goldmine that are fossil fuels, which the EU is very willing to buy at any price (the EU will also pretend not to see that Russian gas is flowing to Azerbaijan and being remarketed to the EU as if it were Azeri, but no matter, this Matryoshka spiel allows them to keep the facade that energy decoupling from Russia is possible – after all, hapless consumers are the ones who will pay for the Azeri triangulation).
I guess European taxpayers should also foot the bill of Ukraine’s reconstruction? I am afraid mr. Fazi, another columnist of Unherd, got a better perspective on this: every last penny of EU funds has already been redirected to fund Ukrainian folly and their ensuing idea of a total war on Russia – and it seems unlikely this should change anytime soon.
The article certainly isn’t as deranged as your ludicrous pro Russian comment, which appears to blame Ukraine for being invaded by Russia.
You seem to be rather unaware also that Ukraine also has huge natural gas reserves. Of course whether their peaceful neighbour would actually allow them to develop these might well be another matter.
The article certainly isn’t as deranged as your ludicrous pro Russian comment, which appears to blame Ukraine for being invaded by Russia.
You seem to be rather unaware also that Ukraine also has huge natural gas reserves. Of course whether their peaceful neighbour would actually allow them to develop these might well be another matter.
Orlando W.
10 months ago
This is a deranged perspective that fully omits (willfully?) the difference in scale. Fuzuli (cfr. wikipedia) covers ~1400 square km. Let’s say half of that is the city proper, which would need to be wholly rebuilt.
And you really want to sit here and tell me this operation could in any way be comparable to Ukraine, which has seen frontlines shift back and forth multiple times over a front that at some point equaled the Low Countries? What about all the critical infrastructure that has been destroyed beyond the frontline? A few carpenters are not going to cut it for that.
Do you really think that damage can be undone? Ukraine is over as a country. Sure, some rebuilding is bound to take place. But guess what another difference is? Azerbaijan is a prosperous country sitting on the goldmine that are fossil fuels, which the EU is very willing to buy at any price (the EU will also pretend not to see that Russian gas is flowing to Azerbaijan and being remarketed to the EU as if it were Azeri, but no matter, this Matryoshka spiel allows them to keep the facade that energy decoupling from Russia is possible – after all, hapless consumers are the ones who will pay for the Azeri triangulation).
I guess European taxpayers should also foot the bill of Ukraine’s reconstruction? I am afraid mr. Fazi, another columnist of Unherd, got a better perspective on this: every last penny of EU funds has already been redirected to fund Ukrainian folly and their ensuing idea of a total war on Russia – and it seems unlikely this should change anytime soon.
Sophy T
10 months ago
I hope they rebuild nice houses and low rise flats in the vernacular style rather than the deeply depressing Soviet plattenbau which can be seen from Chicago to Berlin to Seoul to Nairobi.
Sophy T
10 months ago
I hope they rebuild nice houses and low rise flats in the vernacular style rather than the deeply depressing Soviet plattenbau which can be seen from Chicago to Berlin to Seoul to Nairobi.
Samir Iker
10 months ago
There are a few problems.
Firstly, the Russian majority areas, don’t want to remain with Ukraine (no matter how much Ukraine and the West hate to admit it), are almost certainly lost, and those were the most productive. Agriculture, industry….
Secondly, the loss of a significant part of the most productive population, either migration to Europe during the last year or the huge numbers of young men thrown away at the likes of Bakhmut.
But the most important problem is, as we have seen in Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq… the West are very lavish with instruments of war, not so much with post war reconstruction.
Winning or losing are options only did Russia or NATO. Ukraine is done for, no matter what happens from now on.
Samir Iker
10 months ago
There are a few problems.
Firstly, the Russian majority areas, don’t want to remain with Ukraine (no matter how much Ukraine and the West hate to admit it), are almost certainly lost, and those were the most productive. Agriculture, industry….
Secondly, the loss of a significant part of the most productive population, either migration to Europe during the last year or the huge numbers of young men thrown away at the likes of Bakhmut.
But the most important problem is, as we have seen in Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq… the West are very lavish with instruments of war, not so much with post war reconstruction.
Winning or losing are options only did Russia or NATO. Ukraine is done for, no matter what happens from now on.
This is Azeri state propaganda, nothing more. It’s obviously the result of a state sponsored ‘fact finding’ mission. Well done, Unherd
This is Azeri state propaganda, nothing more. It’s obviously the result of a state sponsored ‘fact finding’ mission. Well done, Unherd
An interesting model. In particular, Azerbaijan’s decision to build “smart villages” and “smart towns” and use the destruction to leapfrog their infrastructure is something that might work well for Ukraine too. Orlando W.: Ukraine is definitely not “over as a country” – the opposite is true. Putin has managed to forge them into a resolute country and to put them on the map for an international community that barely registered them before. Governments and companies are already scrambling to get in on the rebuild…
An interesting model. In particular, Azerbaijan’s decision to build “smart villages” and “smart towns” and use the destruction to leapfrog their infrastructure is something that might work well for Ukraine too. Orlando W.: Ukraine is definitely not “over as a country” – the opposite is true. Putin has managed to forge them into a resolute country and to put them on the map for an international community that barely registered them before. Governments and companies are already scrambling to get in on the rebuild…
This is a deranged perspective that fully omits (willfully?) the difference in scale. Fuzuli (cfr. wikipedia) covers ~1400 square km. Let’s say half of that is the city proper, which would need to be wholly rebuilt.
And you really want to sit here and tell me this operation could in any way be comparable to Ukraine, which has seen frontlines shift back and forth multiple times over a front that at some point equaled the Low Countries? What about all the critical infrastructure that has been destroyed beyond the frontline? A few carpenters are not going to cut it for that.
Do you really think that damage can be undone? Ukraine is over as a country. Sure, some rebuilding is bound to take place. But guess what another difference is? Azerbaijan is a prosperous country sitting on the goldmine that are fossil fuels, which the EU is very willing to buy at any price (the EU will also pretend not to see that Russian gas is flowing to Azerbaijan and being remarketed to the EU as if it were Azeri, but no matter, this Matryoshka spiel allows them to keep the facade that energy decoupling from Russia is possible – after all, hapless consumers are the ones who will pay for the Azeri triangulation).
I guess European taxpayers should also foot the bill of Ukraine’s reconstruction? I am afraid mr. Fazi, another columnist of Unherd, got a better perspective on this: every last penny of EU funds has already been redirected to fund Ukrainian folly and their ensuing idea of a total war on Russia – and it seems unlikely this should change anytime soon.
The article certainly isn’t as deranged as your ludicrous pro Russian comment, which appears to blame Ukraine for being invaded by Russia.
You seem to be rather unaware also that Ukraine also has huge natural gas reserves. Of course whether their peaceful neighbour would actually allow them to develop these might well be another matter.
There is exactly one sentence where Russia is even mentioned in my comment. You people really are in a McCarthyist trance
There is exactly one sentence where Russia is even mentioned in my comment. You people really are in a McCarthyist trance
The article certainly isn’t as deranged as your ludicrous pro Russian comment, which appears to blame Ukraine for being invaded by Russia.
You seem to be rather unaware also that Ukraine also has huge natural gas reserves. Of course whether their peaceful neighbour would actually allow them to develop these might well be another matter.
This is a deranged perspective that fully omits (willfully?) the difference in scale. Fuzuli (cfr. wikipedia) covers ~1400 square km. Let’s say half of that is the city proper, which would need to be wholly rebuilt.
And you really want to sit here and tell me this operation could in any way be comparable to Ukraine, which has seen frontlines shift back and forth multiple times over a front that at some point equaled the Low Countries? What about all the critical infrastructure that has been destroyed beyond the frontline? A few carpenters are not going to cut it for that.
Do you really think that damage can be undone? Ukraine is over as a country. Sure, some rebuilding is bound to take place. But guess what another difference is? Azerbaijan is a prosperous country sitting on the goldmine that are fossil fuels, which the EU is very willing to buy at any price (the EU will also pretend not to see that Russian gas is flowing to Azerbaijan and being remarketed to the EU as if it were Azeri, but no matter, this Matryoshka spiel allows them to keep the facade that energy decoupling from Russia is possible – after all, hapless consumers are the ones who will pay for the Azeri triangulation).
I guess European taxpayers should also foot the bill of Ukraine’s reconstruction? I am afraid mr. Fazi, another columnist of Unherd, got a better perspective on this: every last penny of EU funds has already been redirected to fund Ukrainian folly and their ensuing idea of a total war on Russia – and it seems unlikely this should change anytime soon.
I hope they rebuild nice houses and low rise flats in the vernacular style rather than the deeply depressing Soviet plattenbau which can be seen from Chicago to Berlin to Seoul to Nairobi.
I hope they rebuild nice houses and low rise flats in the vernacular style rather than the deeply depressing Soviet plattenbau which can be seen from Chicago to Berlin to Seoul to Nairobi.
There are a few problems.
Firstly, the Russian majority areas, don’t want to remain with Ukraine (no matter how much Ukraine and the West hate to admit it), are almost certainly lost, and those were the most productive. Agriculture, industry….
Secondly, the loss of a significant part of the most productive population, either migration to Europe during the last year or the huge numbers of young men thrown away at the likes of Bakhmut.
But the most important problem is, as we have seen in Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq… the West are very lavish with instruments of war, not so much with post war reconstruction.
Winning or losing are options only did Russia or NATO. Ukraine is done for, no matter what happens from now on.
There are a few problems.
Firstly, the Russian majority areas, don’t want to remain with Ukraine (no matter how much Ukraine and the West hate to admit it), are almost certainly lost, and those were the most productive. Agriculture, industry….
Secondly, the loss of a significant part of the most productive population, either migration to Europe during the last year or the huge numbers of young men thrown away at the likes of Bakhmut.
But the most important problem is, as we have seen in Libya, Yemen, Afghanistan, Iraq… the West are very lavish with instruments of war, not so much with post war reconstruction.
Winning or losing are options only did Russia or NATO. Ukraine is done for, no matter what happens from now on.