I love the outdoors and have hiked extensively in the Western US where we still have some real wilderness. Even outside the famous Yellowstone National Park, there are some wolves, and even grizzlies, in the West, especially the northwest where they travel south from BC and keep a very low profile. The land is big enough to accommodate them in small numbers without conflicts with humans.
I’m sorry to say it, but I’m not convinced wolves have a place in densely populated countries such as France. There’s not enough open space for the animals to wander, hunt and generally be themselves.
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J Bryant
11 months ago
I love the outdoors and have hiked extensively in the Western US where we still have some real wilderness. Even outside the famous Yellowstone National Park, there are some wolves, and even grizzlies, in the West, especially the northwest where they travel south from BC and keep a very low profile. The land is big enough to accommodate them in small numbers without conflicts with humans.
I’m sorry to say it, but I’m not convinced wolves have a place in densely populated countries such as France. There’s not enough open space for the animals to wander, hunt and generally be themselves.
Last edited 11 months ago by J Bryant
Emmanuel MARTIN
11 months ago
Macron is part of cosmopolitan urban elites, and he profundly despises “rural deep France”. No wonder he betrayed farmers
Last edited 11 months ago by Emmanuel MARTIN
Emmanuel MARTIN
11 months ago
Macron is part of cosmopolitan urban elites, and he profundly despises “rural deep France”. No wonder he betrayed farmers
Last edited 11 months ago by Emmanuel MARTIN
jane baker
11 months ago
It’s about making the countryside in accessible. Even for people who live there it sounds like. Ive seen two different tv documentaries about the return of the wolf in Sweden (when I had a tv) and both told the same story. Idealistic nature lovers imagine the noble wild wolf will inhabit the high mountains and roam the forests well away from the haunts of man because wolves are noble creatures,filled with the spirit of freedom. But actually the wolves are crafty and lazy just like people and they quickly cotton on that instead of wasting time seeking prey in the wilderness they can just do a pick + mix from the farmers pens in the farmyard. So the wolves were hanging about in the trees around many farmyards,just out of sight but you knew they were there. It was spooky,scary and the farmers wives couldn’t let their children out to play,or wouldn’t,which I understand. This rewilding,it did appeal to me at first but since I cottoned on that it’s about reducing agriculture,thus food production and making access to the countryside unpleasant at the least,well I am more sceptical now.
Maybe they’ll bring them in to Netherlands where they are trying to get rid of their farmers as well.
jane baker
11 months ago
It’s about making the countryside in accessible. Even for people who live there it sounds like. Ive seen two different tv documentaries about the return of the wolf in Sweden (when I had a tv) and both told the same story. Idealistic nature lovers imagine the noble wild wolf will inhabit the high mountains and roam the forests well away from the haunts of man because wolves are noble creatures,filled with the spirit of freedom. But actually the wolves are crafty and lazy just like people and they quickly cotton on that instead of wasting time seeking prey in the wilderness they can just do a pick + mix from the farmers pens in the farmyard. So the wolves were hanging about in the trees around many farmyards,just out of sight but you knew they were there. It was spooky,scary and the farmers wives couldn’t let their children out to play,or wouldn’t,which I understand. This rewilding,it did appeal to me at first but since I cottoned on that it’s about reducing agriculture,thus food production and making access to the countryside unpleasant at the least,well I am more sceptical now.
Mike Doyle
11 months ago
Wolves are at war with France – my money’s on the wolves…
Mike Doyle
11 months ago
Wolves are at war with France – my money’s on the wolves…
Anthony Roe
11 months ago
Would do Western Europeans good to be re-acquainted with the ‘Wild Wood’ and to feel a frisson of primordial fear.
Anthony Roe
11 months ago
Would do Western Europeans good to be re-acquainted with the ‘Wild Wood’ and to feel a frisson of primordial fear.
philip kern
11 months ago
When I was a teen with an interest in the environment, wolves in the US were thought to only exist on Isle Royale and were considered an endangered species–as was the bald eagle. Wolves (and bears) are now common enough in places like Wisconsin that they reintroduced hunting, and bald eagles nest in all but one county. I’ve been wondering for a while how people will cope if they succeed in restoring the environment to the extent that larger predators become abundant. Wisconsin now has more trees than ever in its history but I wouldn’t like to raise children in a small town where wolves and bears live on the outskirts.
We need more wolves, bears, cougars, and squirrels in our wild places ….
philip kern
11 months ago
When I was a teen with an interest in the environment, wolves in the US were thought to only exist on Isle Royale and were considered an endangered species–as was the bald eagle. Wolves (and bears) are now common enough in places like Wisconsin that they reintroduced hunting, and bald eagles nest in all but one county. I’ve been wondering for a while how people will cope if they succeed in restoring the environment to the extent that larger predators become abundant. Wisconsin now has more trees than ever in its history but I wouldn’t like to raise children in a small town where wolves and bears live on the outskirts.
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Samuel Ross
11 months ago
Oh, boo hoo hoo. The big bad wolf. I say we need wolves in hundreds of thousands roaming through France; people should live in walled cities and only leave in convoys. The time of the wolf has come!
Samuel Ross
11 months ago
Oh, boo hoo hoo. The big bad wolf. I say we need wolves in hundreds of thousands roaming through France; people should live in walled cities and only leave in convoys. The time of the wolf has come!
Read it years ago and it still shows the wolf in a different light. Can’t remember a species more cruel and destructive than the human. Sheep cause untold damage to the ecosystem.
Read it years ago and it still shows the wolf in a different light. Can’t remember a species more cruel and destructive than the human. Sheep cause untold damage to the ecosystem.
Charles Stanhope
11 months ago
‘Never cry Wolf’ by Farley Mowat anyone?
Clueless mgsm1uk
11 months ago
I live in the Lot.
Not seen one yet but a friend who lives in the forest up the Cele valley has sent photos of the signs going up to warn of them.
“Meanwhile, the compensation for dead sheep is inadequate, and only covers mortalities.”!?
Really, how extraordinary that it should only cover MORTALITIES!?
Otherwise an hysterical rant and a blatant attempt to grab even more compensation. Perhaps France has too many sheep and far too many ‘petite’ farmers?
As for ‘apex predator’ there is only ONE apex predator on this Planet, a superannuated chimpanzee sometimes referred to as h*mo sapiens. Eight billion and rising at the last count. Something must be done.
I look forward to Mr Wolf & Co roaming the Monnow Valley in the not too distant future.
Sweden ?? exactly where I am now and let me tell you farmers, especially Sami, do take their fate into their own hands. As to French sheep farmers…..or even horse owners….if I was one of them, I would shoot a wolf without pause. Everything has been said by the author when it comes to the stress surviving animals endure when they survive, not to mention the farmers themselves. Yours is the typical city bloke reply. Adrenaline kick…..mind you….in Sweden a very mild one……so you can impress your audience at a posh diner party once back in the city…..I was there and I saw a wolf.
Wolves like bears and wild pigs are very opportunistic animals. Why bother chase a deer when a garbage can can offer you all of what you need…..and that’s near towns. Wolves have been sighted near small towns in Sweden.
Since you refer to Sweden, no parent there when living in woodlands like Dalarna, lets his 6 year old wait for the morning bus to school bus alone on the road side. Do I need to remind you of this Italian jogger who was mauled by a bear only a few months ago ?
Bears, wolves….have no place in small countries like France where the author lives…..simple as that.
Sweden ?? exactly where I am now and let me tell you farmers, especially Sami, do take their fate into their own hands. As to French sheep farmers…..or even horse owners….if I was one of them, I would shoot a wolf without pause. Everything has been said by the author when it comes to the stress surviving animals endure when they survive, not to mention the farmers themselves. Yours is the typical city bloke reply. Adrenaline kick…..mind you….in Sweden a very mild one……so you can impress your audience at a posh diner party once back in the city…..I was there and I saw a wolf.
Wolves like bears and wild pigs are very opportunistic animals. Why bother chase a deer when a garbage can can offer you all of what you need…..and that’s near towns. Wolves have been sighted near small towns in Sweden.
Since you refer to Sweden, no parent there when living in woodlands like Dalarna, lets his 6 year old wait for the morning bus to school bus alone on the road side. Do I need to remind you of this Italian jogger who was mauled by a bear only a few months ago ?
Bears, wolves….have no place in small countries like France where the author lives…..simple as that.
“Meanwhile, the compensation for dead sheep is inadequate, and only covers mortalities.”!?
Really, how extraordinary that it should only cover MORTALITIES!?
Otherwise an hysterical rant and a blatant attempt to grab even more compensation. Perhaps France has too many sheep and far too many ‘petite’ farmers?
As for ‘apex predator’ there is only ONE apex predator on this Planet, a superannuated chimpanzee sometimes referred to as h*mo sapiens. Eight billion and rising at the last count. Something must be done.
I look forward to Mr Wolf & Co roaming the Monnow Valley in the not too distant future.
I love the outdoors and have hiked extensively in the Western US where we still have some real wilderness. Even outside the famous Yellowstone National Park, there are some wolves, and even grizzlies, in the West, especially the northwest where they travel south from BC and keep a very low profile. The land is big enough to accommodate them in small numbers without conflicts with humans.
I’m sorry to say it, but I’m not convinced wolves have a place in densely populated countries such as France. There’s not enough open space for the animals to wander, hunt and generally be themselves.
I love the outdoors and have hiked extensively in the Western US where we still have some real wilderness. Even outside the famous Yellowstone National Park, there are some wolves, and even grizzlies, in the West, especially the northwest where they travel south from BC and keep a very low profile. The land is big enough to accommodate them in small numbers without conflicts with humans.
I’m sorry to say it, but I’m not convinced wolves have a place in densely populated countries such as France. There’s not enough open space for the animals to wander, hunt and generally be themselves.
Macron is part of cosmopolitan urban elites, and he profundly despises “rural deep France”. No wonder he betrayed farmers
Macron is part of cosmopolitan urban elites, and he profundly despises “rural deep France”. No wonder he betrayed farmers
It’s about making the countryside in accessible. Even for people who live there it sounds like. Ive seen two different tv documentaries about the return of the wolf in Sweden (when I had a tv) and both told the same story. Idealistic nature lovers imagine the noble wild wolf will inhabit the high mountains and roam the forests well away from the haunts of man because wolves are noble creatures,filled with the spirit of freedom. But actually the wolves are crafty and lazy just like people and they quickly cotton on that instead of wasting time seeking prey in the wilderness they can just do a pick + mix from the farmers pens in the farmyard. So the wolves were hanging about in the trees around many farmyards,just out of sight but you knew they were there. It was spooky,scary and the farmers wives couldn’t let their children out to play,or wouldn’t,which I understand. This rewilding,it did appeal to me at first but since I cottoned on that it’s about reducing agriculture,thus food production and making access to the countryside unpleasant at the least,well I am more sceptical now.
Maybe they’ll bring them in to Netherlands where they are trying to get rid of their farmers as well.
Maybe they’ll bring them in to Netherlands where they are trying to get rid of their farmers as well.
It’s about making the countryside in accessible. Even for people who live there it sounds like. Ive seen two different tv documentaries about the return of the wolf in Sweden (when I had a tv) and both told the same story. Idealistic nature lovers imagine the noble wild wolf will inhabit the high mountains and roam the forests well away from the haunts of man because wolves are noble creatures,filled with the spirit of freedom. But actually the wolves are crafty and lazy just like people and they quickly cotton on that instead of wasting time seeking prey in the wilderness they can just do a pick + mix from the farmers pens in the farmyard. So the wolves were hanging about in the trees around many farmyards,just out of sight but you knew they were there. It was spooky,scary and the farmers wives couldn’t let their children out to play,or wouldn’t,which I understand. This rewilding,it did appeal to me at first but since I cottoned on that it’s about reducing agriculture,thus food production and making access to the countryside unpleasant at the least,well I am more sceptical now.
Wolves are at war with France – my money’s on the wolves…
Wolves are at war with France – my money’s on the wolves…
Would do Western Europeans good to be re-acquainted with the ‘Wild Wood’ and to feel a frisson of primordial fear.
Would do Western Europeans good to be re-acquainted with the ‘Wild Wood’ and to feel a frisson of primordial fear.
When I was a teen with an interest in the environment, wolves in the US were thought to only exist on Isle Royale and were considered an endangered species–as was the bald eagle. Wolves (and bears) are now common enough in places like Wisconsin that they reintroduced hunting, and bald eagles nest in all but one county. I’ve been wondering for a while how people will cope if they succeed in restoring the environment to the extent that larger predators become abundant. Wisconsin now has more trees than ever in its history but I wouldn’t like to raise children in a small town where wolves and bears live on the outskirts.
We need more wolves, bears, cougars, and squirrels in our wild places ….
We need more wolves, bears, cougars, and squirrels in our wild places ….
When I was a teen with an interest in the environment, wolves in the US were thought to only exist on Isle Royale and were considered an endangered species–as was the bald eagle. Wolves (and bears) are now common enough in places like Wisconsin that they reintroduced hunting, and bald eagles nest in all but one county. I’ve been wondering for a while how people will cope if they succeed in restoring the environment to the extent that larger predators become abundant. Wisconsin now has more trees than ever in its history but I wouldn’t like to raise children in a small town where wolves and bears live on the outskirts.
Oh, boo hoo hoo. The big bad wolf. I say we need wolves in hundreds of thousands roaming through France; people should live in walled cities and only leave in convoys. The time of the wolf has come!
Oh, boo hoo hoo. The big bad wolf. I say we need wolves in hundreds of thousands roaming through France; people should live in walled cities and only leave in convoys. The time of the wolf has come!
‘Never cry Wolf’ by Farley Mowat anyone?
Read it years ago and it still shows the wolf in a different light. Can’t remember a species more cruel and destructive than the human. Sheep cause untold damage to the ecosystem.
Read it years ago and it still shows the wolf in a different light. Can’t remember a species more cruel and destructive than the human. Sheep cause untold damage to the ecosystem.
‘Never cry Wolf’ by Farley Mowat anyone?
I live in the Lot.
Not seen one yet but a friend who lives in the forest up the Cele valley has sent photos of the signs going up to warn of them.
The Lot. Is that a reference to Lothian?
The Lot. Is that a reference to Lothian?
I live in the Lot.
Not seen one yet but a friend who lives in the forest up the Cele valley has sent photos of the signs going up to warn of them.
Sheep are a blight on the landscape:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/meet-the-greatest-threat-to-our-countryside-sheep/
And a few wolves will soon sort out all the insufferable urban hikers and the booze n techno chavs invading isolated farms.
Sheep are a blight on the landscape:
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/meet-the-greatest-threat-to-our-countryside-sheep/
And a few wolves will soon sort out all the insufferable urban hikers and the booze n techno chavs invading isolated farms.
“Meanwhile, the compensation for dead sheep is inadequate, and only covers mortalities.”!?
Really, how extraordinary that it should only cover MORTALITIES!?
Otherwise an hysterical rant and a blatant attempt to grab even more compensation. Perhaps France has too many sheep and far too many ‘petite’ farmers?
As for ‘apex predator’ there is only ONE apex predator on this Planet, a superannuated chimpanzee sometimes referred to as h*mo sapiens. Eight billion and rising at the last count. Something must be done.
I look forward to Mr Wolf & Co roaming the Monnow Valley in the not too distant future.
You need to take a hike in a wolves infested forest. Then you will be entitled to a city slicker’s opinion
I’ve hiked and camped in wolf and bear country in Sweden and the US. Things one does to reduce the risk, but it’s definitely not perfectly safe.
So, question for you. Why should it be?
I don’t know what job you do but if Wolves were putting you out of business and you couldn’t do anything about it you would be mad about it.
Sweden ?? exactly where I am now and let me tell you farmers, especially Sami, do take their fate into their own hands. As to French sheep farmers…..or even horse owners….if I was one of them, I would shoot a wolf without pause. Everything has been said by the author when it comes to the stress surviving animals endure when they survive, not to mention the farmers themselves. Yours is the typical city bloke reply. Adrenaline kick…..mind you….in Sweden a very mild one……so you can impress your audience at a posh diner party once back in the city…..I was there and I saw a wolf.
Wolves like bears and wild pigs are very opportunistic animals. Why bother chase a deer when a garbage can can offer you all of what you need…..and that’s near towns. Wolves have been sighted near small towns in Sweden.
Since you refer to Sweden, no parent there when living in woodlands like Dalarna, lets his 6 year old wait for the morning bus to school bus alone on the road side. Do I need to remind you of this Italian jogger who was mauled by a bear only a few months ago ?
Bears, wolves….have no place in small countries like France where the author lives…..simple as that.
I don’t know what job you do but if Wolves were putting you out of business and you couldn’t do anything about it you would be mad about it.
Sweden ?? exactly where I am now and let me tell you farmers, especially Sami, do take their fate into their own hands. As to French sheep farmers…..or even horse owners….if I was one of them, I would shoot a wolf without pause. Everything has been said by the author when it comes to the stress surviving animals endure when they survive, not to mention the farmers themselves. Yours is the typical city bloke reply. Adrenaline kick…..mind you….in Sweden a very mild one……so you can impress your audience at a posh diner party once back in the city…..I was there and I saw a wolf.
Wolves like bears and wild pigs are very opportunistic animals. Why bother chase a deer when a garbage can can offer you all of what you need…..and that’s near towns. Wolves have been sighted near small towns in Sweden.
Since you refer to Sweden, no parent there when living in woodlands like Dalarna, lets his 6 year old wait for the morning bus to school bus alone on the road side. Do I need to remind you of this Italian jogger who was mauled by a bear only a few months ago ?
Bears, wolves….have no place in small countries like France where the author lives…..simple as that.
Ever been to Quislington?
I’ve hiked and camped in wolf and bear country in Sweden and the US. Things one does to reduce the risk, but it’s definitely not perfectly safe.
So, question for you. Why should it be?
Ever been to Quislington?
That is a really daft take on it.
Correct and very disappointing that is has only garnered a mere ten ‘thumbs down’.
Correct and very disappointing that is has only garnered a mere ten ‘thumbs down’.
Start by culling yourself.
After you sir!
Given your preposterous nomen that shouldn’t be too difficult?
After you sir!
Given your preposterous nomen that shouldn’t be too difficult?
You need to take a hike in a wolves infested forest. Then you will be entitled to a city slicker’s opinion
That is a really daft take on it.
Start by culling yourself.
“Meanwhile, the compensation for dead sheep is inadequate, and only covers mortalities.”!?
Really, how extraordinary that it should only cover MORTALITIES!?
Otherwise an hysterical rant and a blatant attempt to grab even more compensation. Perhaps France has too many sheep and far too many ‘petite’ farmers?
As for ‘apex predator’ there is only ONE apex predator on this Planet, a superannuated chimpanzee sometimes referred to as h*mo sapiens. Eight billion and rising at the last count. Something must be done.
I look forward to Mr Wolf & Co roaming the Monnow Valley in the not too distant future.