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Simon S
Simon S
1 year ago

Thank you Unherd for this interview while the rest of the UK and most of the US media buries its head pretending RFK Jr is not a presidential candidate when his is probably the most enthralling US candidacy for years.

Polling 20% after 3 weeks makes him a severe headache for Biden and if he keeps growing at this rate the DNC’s options of just preempting the primary process or finding a way to disqualify RFK Jr could massively backfire. And their minions, never mind Biden of course, won’t dare debate him – he knows his history and the system backwards so the DNC and their puppet / brainwashed media can rely only on smears and dirty tricks to diminish him.

RFK Jr has huge cross-party, revolutionary appeal. He is an honest man of great courage and I wish him well.

Last edited 1 year ago by Simon S
Alka Hughes-Hallett
Alka Hughes-Hallett
1 year ago
Reply to  Simon S

Rarely someone’s views I can almost feel 100% aligned with, this is him.
He comes across humble, knowledgeable, energetic, passionate and fearless and has all the right qualities of leadership. I will be eagerly watching & will be delighted to see him succeed. He seems incorruptible and has fought his demons in his past and recognises most of the demons in his country.
Good luck and all the power to you.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
1 year ago

He came across to me as an utter crank, possibly well meaning but utterly naive. It’s strange how people can read the same interview and come away with two completely different opinions on the man, keeps life interesting though I suppose

Robbie K
Robbie K
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Totally agree. Sounds like one of those swivel-eyed loons that rant in the street about all the conspiracies out to get you.

Robbie K
Robbie K
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Totally agree. Sounds like one of those swivel-eyed loons that rant in the street about all the conspiracies out to get you.

S Smith
S Smith
1 year ago

Alka–I second this! For the first time in over three years I don’t feel politically homeless, as I was once someone who identified as “left” but have been chewed up and spit out in the face of their love in America for lockdowns, illegal vaccine mandates, cancel culture, Big Pharma and the military-industrial complex. This is not MY left and his left me reeling and horrified.
Perhaps worst of all, is how my old political home has completely abandoned the anti-war movement and turned over with the rest of the DNC, like the old bloated corpse that it is, in the process leading down a path to a land war in Europe at the very least, a nuclear holocaust in the worst case scenario. I’ve been appalled every step of the way these last 1200 days as the “left” became something far more resembling a fascism tinged, militaristic enterprise. 

Last edited 1 year ago by S Smith
Billy Bob
Billy Bob
1 year ago

He came across to me as an utter crank, possibly well meaning but utterly naive. It’s strange how people can read the same interview and come away with two completely different opinions on the man, keeps life interesting though I suppose

S Smith
S Smith
1 year ago

Alka–I second this! For the first time in over three years I don’t feel politically homeless, as I was once someone who identified as “left” but have been chewed up and spit out in the face of their love in America for lockdowns, illegal vaccine mandates, cancel culture, Big Pharma and the military-industrial complex. This is not MY left and his left me reeling and horrified.
Perhaps worst of all, is how my old political home has completely abandoned the anti-war movement and turned over with the rest of the DNC, like the old bloated corpse that it is, in the process leading down a path to a land war in Europe at the very least, a nuclear holocaust in the worst case scenario. I’ve been appalled every step of the way these last 1200 days as the “left” became something far more resembling a fascism tinged, militaristic enterprise. 

Last edited 1 year ago by S Smith
Diana Woodruff
Diana Woodruff
11 months ago
Reply to  Simon S

I really hope he can win. People need to know he is running. The vaccine thing is taken out of context and hurts him. I hope he can stay safe if he wins. He has my vote and my friends’ also. We fear some psycho will assassinate him. We have so many nutty people in this country! He makes sense. I hope folks will give him a chance. He needs to make it clear he is not against vaccines; he is against lack of research for them, which is dangerous. I am a certified R.N. and I understand what he is trying to say; but I repeat: people take it out of context and that can hurt him. Diana Woodruff, R.N.

Nill Wollis
Nill Wollis
10 months ago
Reply to  Simon S

It’s interesting to see your perspective on RFK Jr’s candidacy and the media’s coverage of it. The way you highlight his polling numbers and the potential challenges he poses to the DNC raises some valid points. It’s clear that you admire RFK Jr for his knowledge, courage, and appeal across party lines.It brings back memories of my own experiences translating articles, find more info here, that provide diverse viewpoints, allowing for broader accessibility and cross-cultural understanding. Your support for RFK Jr is evident, and I appreciate your well wishes for his campaign.

Alka Hughes-Hallett
Alka Hughes-Hallett
1 year ago
Reply to  Simon S

Rarely someone’s views I can almost feel 100% aligned with, this is him.
He comes across humble, knowledgeable, energetic, passionate and fearless and has all the right qualities of leadership. I will be eagerly watching & will be delighted to see him succeed. He seems incorruptible and has fought his demons in his past and recognises most of the demons in his country.
Good luck and all the power to you.

Diana Woodruff
Diana Woodruff
11 months ago
Reply to  Simon S

I really hope he can win. People need to know he is running. The vaccine thing is taken out of context and hurts him. I hope he can stay safe if he wins. He has my vote and my friends’ also. We fear some psycho will assassinate him. We have so many nutty people in this country! He makes sense. I hope folks will give him a chance. He needs to make it clear he is not against vaccines; he is against lack of research for them, which is dangerous. I am a certified R.N. and I understand what he is trying to say; but I repeat: people take it out of context and that can hurt him. Diana Woodruff, R.N.

Nill Wollis
Nill Wollis
10 months ago
Reply to  Simon S

It’s interesting to see your perspective on RFK Jr’s candidacy and the media’s coverage of it. The way you highlight his polling numbers and the potential challenges he poses to the DNC raises some valid points. It’s clear that you admire RFK Jr for his knowledge, courage, and appeal across party lines.It brings back memories of my own experiences translating articles, find more info here, that provide diverse viewpoints, allowing for broader accessibility and cross-cultural understanding. Your support for RFK Jr is evident, and I appreciate your well wishes for his campaign.

Simon S
Simon S
1 year ago

Thank you Unherd for this interview while the rest of the UK and most of the US media buries its head pretending RFK Jr is not a presidential candidate when his is probably the most enthralling US candidacy for years.

Polling 20% after 3 weeks makes him a severe headache for Biden and if he keeps growing at this rate the DNC’s options of just preempting the primary process or finding a way to disqualify RFK Jr could massively backfire. And their minions, never mind Biden of course, won’t dare debate him – he knows his history and the system backwards so the DNC and their puppet / brainwashed media can rely only on smears and dirty tricks to diminish him.

RFK Jr has huge cross-party, revolutionary appeal. He is an honest man of great courage and I wish him well.

Last edited 1 year ago by Simon S
Nik Jewell
Nik Jewell
1 year ago

On 4th April, I ended a comment on your interview with Jacob Siegel with: “Freddie – journalistic coup of the year would be an interview with RFK Jr now he has just declared.”
I don’t know if that contributed in any way to bringing this about, but I want to thank you for this interview. You asked some excellent, penetrating, relevant questions.
Whilst I don’t agree with him on everything (for example, nuclear energy, though I will ponder the insurance point!), I trust everybody can see the quality and honesty of this man, that his intentions are noble and moral, and that he is more than suited to be the president of the US. The rest of the world badly needs him to be the president – does anybody really want to see a repeat of a race between two divisive and corrupt presidents who have been proven failures and one of whom has brought us to the brink of armageddon?
If you haven’t read his page-turning book yet (‘The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health’), please do. It was the book that ‘red-pilled’ me last year and led me to read scores of other books, papers and articles on the subject. It’s no wonder that the establishment and Davos elites find him so dangerous (like Socrates corrupting the youth of Athens!).
I look forward to the proposed second interview. Thank you, Freddie, and my best wishes and sincere hopes, Bobby, for the primaries and the presidency.

Last edited 1 year ago by Nik Jewell
Nik Jewell
Nik Jewell
1 year ago

On 4th April, I ended a comment on your interview with Jacob Siegel with: “Freddie – journalistic coup of the year would be an interview with RFK Jr now he has just declared.”
I don’t know if that contributed in any way to bringing this about, but I want to thank you for this interview. You asked some excellent, penetrating, relevant questions.
Whilst I don’t agree with him on everything (for example, nuclear energy, though I will ponder the insurance point!), I trust everybody can see the quality and honesty of this man, that his intentions are noble and moral, and that he is more than suited to be the president of the US. The rest of the world badly needs him to be the president – does anybody really want to see a repeat of a race between two divisive and corrupt presidents who have been proven failures and one of whom has brought us to the brink of armageddon?
If you haven’t read his page-turning book yet (‘The Real Anthony Fauci: Bill Gates, Big Pharma, and the Global War on Democracy and Public Health’), please do. It was the book that ‘red-pilled’ me last year and led me to read scores of other books, papers and articles on the subject. It’s no wonder that the establishment and Davos elites find him so dangerous (like Socrates corrupting the youth of Athens!).
I look forward to the proposed second interview. Thank you, Freddie, and my best wishes and sincere hopes, Bobby, for the primaries and the presidency.

Last edited 1 year ago by Nik Jewell
AC Harper
AC Harper
1 year ago

He will be hated by the existing Democratic machine, the major media outlets, diverse lobby groups, federal agencies, and various corporate concerns. I suspect that Elite America ‘cannot handle the truth’.
Look at what they did to Trump – and he was nowhere as challenging to the status quo as RFK Jr.

TheElephant InTheRoom
TheElephant InTheRoom
1 year ago
Reply to  AC Harper

Exactly. Will be interesting to see if he’s even able to run on the D ticket. Somehow I don’t think so – he’s just too controversial…

Denno dennodogg
Denno dennodogg
1 year ago
Reply to  AC Harper

When dems want a change from the corrupt swampmeisters’ criminal regimes it’s a “revolution”. When the R’s try it, it’s an ” insurrection”. Go figure.

TheElephant InTheRoom
TheElephant InTheRoom
1 year ago
Reply to  AC Harper

Exactly. Will be interesting to see if he’s even able to run on the D ticket. Somehow I don’t think so – he’s just too controversial…

Denno dennodogg
Denno dennodogg
1 year ago
Reply to  AC Harper

When dems want a change from the corrupt swampmeisters’ criminal regimes it’s a “revolution”. When the R’s try it, it’s an ” insurrection”. Go figure.

AC Harper
AC Harper
1 year ago

He will be hated by the existing Democratic machine, the major media outlets, diverse lobby groups, federal agencies, and various corporate concerns. I suspect that Elite America ‘cannot handle the truth’.
Look at what they did to Trump – and he was nowhere as challenging to the status quo as RFK Jr.

Matt Hindman
Matt Hindman
1 year ago

I liked most of it. He certainly knows the history of the security state and the administrative state going out of control. I also like what he has to say about screwed up state of our modern economy. There is one thing I have to massively disagree with him on, nuclear power. I’m sorry but the real world runs on the principal of making do with what you have and the only viable path in the future of supplying a lot of power with little carbon emission is nuclear. Maybe one day we will get our electricity from safe, clean cold fusion power plants, but today is not that day. Tomorrow does not look too promising either.

Andrew D
Andrew D
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

He said ‘then they have to store the stuff at taxpayer expense for the next 30,000 years, which is five times the length of recorded human history’. That was sobering.
I would have liked Freddie to ask him about gun control.

Last edited 1 year ago by Andrew D
Alan Gore
Alan Gore
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew D

Sobering, but also dead wrong. The reason that spent fuel stays radioactive for so long is that our once-through power process leaves most of the fissionable uranium behind. If we reprocessed the waste to separate that uranium from the contaminating isotopes that build up in it during the active fission cycle, that uranium would be available to make new fuel while the remaining isotopes, after harvesting those which are medically and industrially valuable, decay in about 300 years, rather than 30,000. It was the left which prevented us from recycling nuclear waste so they could then claim it as a deal-killing problem.

And if we want to get serious about the greenhouse has issue, we absolutely need to soak up carbon already free in the environment by doing such large-scale sequestration operations as seeding ocean gyres with nutrients to promote the growth of carbon-absorbing plant life that, when it dies and sinks to teh bottom, takes large amounts of carbon down with it.

We are as gods, and had better get good at it.

Nell Clover
Nell Clover
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew D

Mercury, lead and cadmium remain toxic for forever, which is infinitely longer than the length of recorded time. Few people are hyperventilating about these far more deadly toxins being used for all manner of essential industrial applications including alternatives to nuclear. Yet they cause far more harm than nuclear and are as invisible as radiation, present in all our food often at levels (rice) dangerous to health. Despite the higher population level risk, no one is insisting on 30,000 year storage of heavy metal waste – a clay lined landfill often does the job. High level radioactive waste will transmute to something generally safe within 300 years whilst those toxic metals will remain toxic metals until the end of the solar system.

Last edited 1 year ago by Nell Clover
Alan Gore
Alan Gore
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew D

Sobering, but also dead wrong. The reason that spent fuel stays radioactive for so long is that our once-through power process leaves most of the fissionable uranium behind. If we reprocessed the waste to separate that uranium from the contaminating isotopes that build up in it during the active fission cycle, that uranium would be available to make new fuel while the remaining isotopes, after harvesting those which are medically and industrially valuable, decay in about 300 years, rather than 30,000. It was the left which prevented us from recycling nuclear waste so they could then claim it as a deal-killing problem.

And if we want to get serious about the greenhouse has issue, we absolutely need to soak up carbon already free in the environment by doing such large-scale sequestration operations as seeding ocean gyres with nutrients to promote the growth of carbon-absorbing plant life that, when it dies and sinks to teh bottom, takes large amounts of carbon down with it.

We are as gods, and had better get good at it.

Nell Clover
Nell Clover
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew D

Mercury, lead and cadmium remain toxic for forever, which is infinitely longer than the length of recorded time. Few people are hyperventilating about these far more deadly toxins being used for all manner of essential industrial applications including alternatives to nuclear. Yet they cause far more harm than nuclear and are as invisible as radiation, present in all our food often at levels (rice) dangerous to health. Despite the higher population level risk, no one is insisting on 30,000 year storage of heavy metal waste – a clay lined landfill often does the job. High level radioactive waste will transmute to something generally safe within 300 years whilst those toxic metals will remain toxic metals until the end of the solar system.

Last edited 1 year ago by Nell Clover
TheElephant InTheRoom
TheElephant InTheRoom
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

I agree with you Matt on the nuclear thing. I’ve been trying to discover more about LENR for a few years and while I think there is something going on there, its not visible yet. Small modular reactors are being produced however that show promise – the industry certainly doesn’t need to remain locked in the 1970s.

Andrew D
Andrew D
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

He said ‘then they have to store the stuff at taxpayer expense for the next 30,000 years, which is five times the length of recorded human history’. That was sobering.
I would have liked Freddie to ask him about gun control.

Last edited 1 year ago by Andrew D
TheElephant InTheRoom
TheElephant InTheRoom
1 year ago
Reply to  Matt Hindman

I agree with you Matt on the nuclear thing. I’ve been trying to discover more about LENR for a few years and while I think there is something going on there, its not visible yet. Small modular reactors are being produced however that show promise – the industry certainly doesn’t need to remain locked in the 1970s.

Matt Hindman
Matt Hindman
1 year ago

I liked most of it. He certainly knows the history of the security state and the administrative state going out of control. I also like what he has to say about screwed up state of our modern economy. There is one thing I have to massively disagree with him on, nuclear power. I’m sorry but the real world runs on the principal of making do with what you have and the only viable path in the future of supplying a lot of power with little carbon emission is nuclear. Maybe one day we will get our electricity from safe, clean cold fusion power plants, but today is not that day. Tomorrow does not look too promising either.

James Westby
James Westby
1 year ago

Very good interview and quite a coup! Interestingly, his message is not so far removed from ‘drain the swamp’, put forward by a certain other presidential hopeful; but much, much more articulate.
Given the myriad vested interests he says he will confront, together with his family history, I do feel worried for his personal safety should he be in with a chance of winning the Democratic nomination.

Andy O'Gorman
Andy O'Gorman
1 year ago
Reply to  James Westby

Strike 3! Wow that would me a MF.

Andy O'Gorman
Andy O'Gorman
1 year ago
Reply to  James Westby

Strike 3! Wow that would me a MF.

James Westby
James Westby
1 year ago

Very good interview and quite a coup! Interestingly, his message is not so far removed from ‘drain the swamp’, put forward by a certain other presidential hopeful; but much, much more articulate.
Given the myriad vested interests he says he will confront, together with his family history, I do feel worried for his personal safety should he be in with a chance of winning the Democratic nomination.

Martin Bollis
Martin Bollis
1 year ago

Fascinating interview, I wish him luck.

Martin Bollis
Martin Bollis
1 year ago

Fascinating interview, I wish him luck.

Rosemary Throssell
Rosemary Throssell
1 year ago

I have lived here in the US for 18 years but never had the desire to apply for citizenship, happy just being a green card holder.
I will apply to vote for this man.

Rosemary Throssell
Rosemary Throssell
1 year ago

I have lived here in the US for 18 years but never had the desire to apply for citizenship, happy just being a green card holder.
I will apply to vote for this man.

chris sullivan
chris sullivan
1 year ago

RFKjnr – future president of the USA – or BUST !

chris sullivan
chris sullivan
1 year ago

RFKjnr – future president of the USA – or BUST !

TheElephant InTheRoom
TheElephant InTheRoom
1 year ago

RFK is the only current candidate fit to lead the US. Question is: will “they” let him?

TheElephant InTheRoom
TheElephant InTheRoom
1 year ago

RFK is the only current candidate fit to lead the US. Question is: will “they” let him?

LCarey Rowland
LCarey Rowland
1 year ago

This man makes very good sense.
And another thing: His family background goes far beyond manifesting a bold centrosity, such as his father and his uncle did. He strikes me as a potentially excellent President.
As a 71-year-old American, I would probably vote for him. I would love it if he could somehow manhandle the Republican nomination away from the trump dysfunction.
Robert’s centrism is very timely and refreshing, just now. He has a lot of common sense, which appeals to conservatives. He also has a lot of experience in exploring the actual manifestations of politics. His experience in litigation shines brightly in a manner that is persuasive, practical and still appropriately ideological at the same time.
His unabashed truth-telling, is, however, dangerous. It is the same boldly honest character trait that provoked murderers to assassinate his uncle and his father.
Were he to run for President, he would be taking a very big risk toward suffering the same fate as our former President Kennedy and our former Attorney General Kennedy.
His rough, gravelly voice would also be a negative factor. With his mafiaesque grumble, many Americans would find that as excuse to concentrate on his speech rather than the content of his character and his message.
Even so, with all that said, this never-trumper would vote for him. Godspeed, Robert!

LCarey Rowland
LCarey Rowland
1 year ago

This man makes very good sense.
And another thing: His family background goes far beyond manifesting a bold centrosity, such as his father and his uncle did. He strikes me as a potentially excellent President.
As a 71-year-old American, I would probably vote for him. I would love it if he could somehow manhandle the Republican nomination away from the trump dysfunction.
Robert’s centrism is very timely and refreshing, just now. He has a lot of common sense, which appeals to conservatives. He also has a lot of experience in exploring the actual manifestations of politics. His experience in litigation shines brightly in a manner that is persuasive, practical and still appropriately ideological at the same time.
His unabashed truth-telling, is, however, dangerous. It is the same boldly honest character trait that provoked murderers to assassinate his uncle and his father.
Were he to run for President, he would be taking a very big risk toward suffering the same fate as our former President Kennedy and our former Attorney General Kennedy.
His rough, gravelly voice would also be a negative factor. With his mafiaesque grumble, many Americans would find that as excuse to concentrate on his speech rather than the content of his character and his message.
Even so, with all that said, this never-trumper would vote for him. Godspeed, Robert!

Andrew Boughton
Andrew Boughton
1 year ago

Cometh the hour, cometh the man. A leader with clear vision. We’d forgotten what such a man looks and sounds like.

Andrew Boughton
Andrew Boughton
1 year ago

Cometh the hour, cometh the man. A leader with clear vision. We’d forgotten what such a man looks and sounds like.

Simon Blanchard
Simon Blanchard
1 year ago

This guy talks a lot of sense and would appear to be a threat to some powerful interests. Shame if something happened to him…

Simon Blanchard
Simon Blanchard
1 year ago

This guy talks a lot of sense and would appear to be a threat to some powerful interests. Shame if something happened to him…

j watson
j watson
1 year ago

Quite a mish-mash of some good with some nonsense. He’ll has a touch point though for many, but the question is whether that adds up to a coherent coalition that’d generate sufficient votes?
Not unsurprisingly he’s got a ‘rose tinted’ view of his Uncle too. Yes his Uncle showed true Statemanship during the Cuban Crisis holding back his Chief of Staffs desire to invade and escalate, but he also started the drift in Vietnam and he conveniently doesn’t refer to that. He also forgets the administration in 62 traded the Jupiters because they were obsolete and Polaris was changing deterrence anyway. The missile crisis was a ‘political’ not a ‘strategic’ issue and his viewpoint seems to miss that a bit. JFK was adamant about defending Berlin too. So feels like he’s quite selective in his recollections.
A statement like ‘do we let these countries deal with their neighbours’, implying ‘yes we do, not our problem’, music to the ears of Putin & Xi’s and would send a huge message to other countries round the world about which way to lean. Massively naive.
And then later in the interview he ducks answering question on regretting his Holocaust vaccine analogy. Weak, evasive and fact he even used this analogy indicates massive lack of judgment.
There seem good reasons why he’s not been a successful politician thus far in his 68yrs and it’s that he’s all over the place. He has some valid views and ideas alongside some fairly ill considered. Unlike Trump it seems doubtful he’d generate the donations needed either.

Lesley van Reenen
Lesley van Reenen
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

I would far prefer someone who is not a career politician.

j watson
j watson
1 year ago

Certainly something in that, but learning how to navigate the complexity of Govt and the Legislatures can mean experience of Govt departments and of Congress invaluable if you really want to get stuff done.

j watson
j watson
1 year ago

Certainly something in that, but learning how to navigate the complexity of Govt and the Legislatures can mean experience of Govt departments and of Congress invaluable if you really want to get stuff done.

Stephanie Surface
Stephanie Surface
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

I agree with you. Although he sounded quite intriguing, but there was no depth to his points , except probably about Covid vaccinations. He thought that his uncle did very well in the Cuban missile crisis, but I would argue, that UncleJack started it all with his betrayal of the Cuban exiles in the “Bay of Pigs”, where the CIA was also heavily involved.
He also criticised Biden and the neo cons about their conduct in Ukrainian war, but I find huge similarities in this conflict to the beginning of the Vietnam war, as Jack Kennedy sent weapons and “advisers”, starting this long and bloody conflict, supposedly helping a “democracy” defending itself from a hostile regime…

j watson
j watson
1 year ago

I think JFK inherited the Bay of Pigs scheme and was lied to by the CIA about it’s details and degree of support in Cuba. It happened only weeks into his Presidency. I think he learnt from it though and was much less persuaded by the Hawks in CIA and military 18mths later during the Missile crisis, thank goodness.
We’ll never know if JFK would have double-downed in Vietnam as Johnson did repeatedly until too late, but he was intent in helping resist Communist encroachment into SV up to the point of assassination. I think he’d have helped Ukraine the moment apparent Zelensky and his people going to strongly resist and fight, although obviously we’ll never know.

j watson
j watson
1 year ago

I think JFK inherited the Bay of Pigs scheme and was lied to by the CIA about it’s details and degree of support in Cuba. It happened only weeks into his Presidency. I think he learnt from it though and was much less persuaded by the Hawks in CIA and military 18mths later during the Missile crisis, thank goodness.
We’ll never know if JFK would have double-downed in Vietnam as Johnson did repeatedly until too late, but he was intent in helping resist Communist encroachment into SV up to the point of assassination. I think he’d have helped Ukraine the moment apparent Zelensky and his people going to strongly resist and fight, although obviously we’ll never know.

Lesley van Reenen
Lesley van Reenen
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

I would far prefer someone who is not a career politician.

Stephanie Surface
Stephanie Surface
1 year ago
Reply to  j watson

I agree with you. Although he sounded quite intriguing, but there was no depth to his points , except probably about Covid vaccinations. He thought that his uncle did very well in the Cuban missile crisis, but I would argue, that UncleJack started it all with his betrayal of the Cuban exiles in the “Bay of Pigs”, where the CIA was also heavily involved.
He also criticised Biden and the neo cons about their conduct in Ukrainian war, but I find huge similarities in this conflict to the beginning of the Vietnam war, as Jack Kennedy sent weapons and “advisers”, starting this long and bloody conflict, supposedly helping a “democracy” defending itself from a hostile regime…

j watson
j watson
1 year ago

Quite a mish-mash of some good with some nonsense. He’ll has a touch point though for many, but the question is whether that adds up to a coherent coalition that’d generate sufficient votes?
Not unsurprisingly he’s got a ‘rose tinted’ view of his Uncle too. Yes his Uncle showed true Statemanship during the Cuban Crisis holding back his Chief of Staffs desire to invade and escalate, but he also started the drift in Vietnam and he conveniently doesn’t refer to that. He also forgets the administration in 62 traded the Jupiters because they were obsolete and Polaris was changing deterrence anyway. The missile crisis was a ‘political’ not a ‘strategic’ issue and his viewpoint seems to miss that a bit. JFK was adamant about defending Berlin too. So feels like he’s quite selective in his recollections.
A statement like ‘do we let these countries deal with their neighbours’, implying ‘yes we do, not our problem’, music to the ears of Putin & Xi’s and would send a huge message to other countries round the world about which way to lean. Massively naive.
And then later in the interview he ducks answering question on regretting his Holocaust vaccine analogy. Weak, evasive and fact he even used this analogy indicates massive lack of judgment.
There seem good reasons why he’s not been a successful politician thus far in his 68yrs and it’s that he’s all over the place. He has some valid views and ideas alongside some fairly ill considered. Unlike Trump it seems doubtful he’d generate the donations needed either.

Kirk Susong
Kirk Susong
1 year ago

I’m an evangelical conservative who thinks the sexual revolution is the most pressing problem in the US today, so the chances of me voting for RFK Jr. are tiny. That said, I think he came across very well in this interview. He’s a person with a strong sense of himself, of what he believes and of what he wants to accomplish. He’s also clearly distinguishing himself from his competition. All of those things are good starting points for any campaign.

Kirk Susong
Kirk Susong
1 year ago

I’m an evangelical conservative who thinks the sexual revolution is the most pressing problem in the US today, so the chances of me voting for RFK Jr. are tiny. That said, I think he came across very well in this interview. He’s a person with a strong sense of himself, of what he believes and of what he wants to accomplish. He’s also clearly distinguishing himself from his competition. All of those things are good starting points for any campaign.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago

He’s clearly still living in the 60s, an old-style Democrat. Which is certainly preferable to a Biden-style Democrat.
His solution to the Ukraine problem is very like Trump’s. Unfortunately, that won’t end the fighting, it will just pause it until Putin has reconstituted his Army ready for the next push. Kennedy has a blind spot about NATO, which was very reluctant to extend eastwards. It was the former Warsaw Pact countries, who know a thing or two about living in fear of the Russians, who made all the running. Had NATO ignored their need to feel secure, it would inevitably have lead to Russian influence creeping back and the end to their search for democracy and better living standards.

Dougie Undersub
Dougie Undersub
1 year ago

He’s clearly still living in the 60s, an old-style Democrat. Which is certainly preferable to a Biden-style Democrat.
His solution to the Ukraine problem is very like Trump’s. Unfortunately, that won’t end the fighting, it will just pause it until Putin has reconstituted his Army ready for the next push. Kennedy has a blind spot about NATO, which was very reluctant to extend eastwards. It was the former Warsaw Pact countries, who know a thing or two about living in fear of the Russians, who made all the running. Had NATO ignored their need to feel secure, it would inevitably have lead to Russian influence creeping back and the end to their search for democracy and better living standards.

Diana Woodruff
Diana Woodruff
11 months ago

I hope he can win. I believe people take his stance on vaccines completely out of context. As an R.N. I realize he is NOT against vaccines per se, he is against the lack of research needed for new vaccines, which can be deadly. This needs to be made clear to the public. Also, more publicity that he is a candidate is needed. I cannot imagine a debate between him and Biden. He is our best chance at healing our country. I pray to God he is not assassinated. I have watched his two brothers killed by psychotic maniacs and remember sobbing at age 19 when JFK was shot. I volunteered for the young Democrats back then. What followed was disaster with Lyndon Johnson and Vietnam.
Diana Woodruff, R.N.C.

Diana Woodruff
Diana Woodruff
11 months ago

I hope he can win. I believe people take his stance on vaccines completely out of context. As an R.N. I realize he is NOT against vaccines per se, he is against the lack of research needed for new vaccines, which can be deadly. This needs to be made clear to the public. Also, more publicity that he is a candidate is needed. I cannot imagine a debate between him and Biden. He is our best chance at healing our country. I pray to God he is not assassinated. I have watched his two brothers killed by psychotic maniacs and remember sobbing at age 19 when JFK was shot. I volunteered for the young Democrats back then. What followed was disaster with Lyndon Johnson and Vietnam.
Diana Woodruff, R.N.C.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago

What has happened to my very benign critique of the Kennedy Clan?

Surely NOT censorship of the vilest sort on UnHerd of all places?

Robbie K
Robbie K
1 year ago

A couple of critical posts have disappeared. Seems so folks only want these peculiar gushing statements of how brilliant he is.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
Reply to  Robbie K

The beginning of the end, sadly.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
Reply to  Robbie K

The beginning of the end, sadly.

Alka Hughes-Hallett
Alka Hughes-Hallett
1 year ago

I agree. I noticed.
The interview of a man who is pro freedom of speech and the removal of any criticism of his views and disapproval of his techniques- that is so contradictory to good journalism and so unlike this forum’s original stance.

Andrew D
Andrew D
1 year ago

Yes, it was benign. I imagine some eejit flagged it up but it’ll probably be back. If not, you may be right – beginning of the end of a brief but glorious period of free thinking.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew D

I must agree, it has been a good three years!

Robbie K
Robbie K
1 year ago

This is how social media works in the US

Robbie K
Robbie K
1 year ago

This is how social media works in the US

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
Reply to  Andrew D

I must agree, it has been a good three years!

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

Actually emailed support last week, still heard nothing, it’s been a massive problem for me. Some subjects get me a lot of grief. Some really tame stuff never gets through. Other people seem allowed to post under ‘unherd reader’ or something stupid and they contacted me to change my user name to what they deemed appropriate. Seems no rules to how this place works, so it’s hard to trust. Wits end.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
Reply to  B Emery

Yes pathetic!
I’ve only just realised what ‘flagging’ is and rather naively thought nobody could stoop so low on UnHerd!

Silly me!

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

Yes, it’s been quite a problem for me for a while. It’s all got a bit wild at times. The Internet is not what it was. Grumble. I’m done complaining. Don’t want to drag it down too much, it’s not their fault people are doing it.

Last edited 1 year ago by B Emery
B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

And my very reasonable reply has gone to moderation. Nice to talk with you when I am permitted by the crazy moderation Mr Stanhope. I’m mostly going back to gardening and electrics, I might drop in occasionally.

Last edited 1 year ago by B Emery
Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
Reply to  B Emery

Don’t forget to spend a little time exploring the wonderful history of the Midlands.

There are a plethora of Roman, Medieval and ‘Modern’ monuments, ruined and intact to explore. Ideal for inquisitive children to clamber over and excite their very fertile imagination.
Good luck Ms Emery.

Last edited 1 year ago by Charles Stanhope
B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

Thank you for taking the time with me, all the best.

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

Thank you for taking the time with me, all the best.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
Reply to  B Emery

Don’t forget to spend a little time exploring the wonderful history of the Midlands.

There are a plethora of Roman, Medieval and ‘Modern’ monuments, ruined and intact to explore. Ideal for inquisitive children to clamber over and excite their very fertile imagination.
Good luck Ms Emery.

Last edited 1 year ago by Charles Stanhope
B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

Yes, it’s been quite a problem for me for a while. It’s all got a bit wild at times. The Internet is not what it was. Grumble. I’m done complaining. Don’t want to drag it down too much, it’s not their fault people are doing it.

Last edited 1 year ago by B Emery
B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

And my very reasonable reply has gone to moderation. Nice to talk with you when I am permitted by the crazy moderation Mr Stanhope. I’m mostly going back to gardening and electrics, I might drop in occasionally.

Last edited 1 year ago by B Emery
Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
Reply to  B Emery

Yes pathetic!
I’ve only just realised what ‘flagging’ is and rather naively thought nobody could stoop so low on UnHerd!

Silly me!

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
1 year ago

I believe it’s caused by users flagging comments they don’t like. This seems to hide them for a bit while I assume they’re checked. All mine eventually reappear unless the original comment I’ve replied to has been deleted.
My criticism of Kennedy has also been flagged for moderation, it appears some of the voices on here who criticise cancel culture are also quite keen to use it themselves when they read things they dislike

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Breaks the trust between different views…

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Sadly I think you must be correct!
This Kennedy thing seems to be worse that usual, for some inexplicable reason.

Kirk Susong
Kirk Susong
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Don’t conflate a user giving you a ‘thumbs down’ with a site administrator removing your post. The users are asked to offer their opinions and do.

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Breaks the trust between different views…

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Sadly I think you must be correct!
This Kennedy thing seems to be worse that usual, for some inexplicable reason.

Kirk Susong
Kirk Susong
1 year ago
Reply to  Billy Bob

Don’t conflate a user giving you a ‘thumbs down’ with a site administrator removing your post. The users are asked to offer their opinions and do.

Robbie K
Robbie K
1 year ago

A couple of critical posts have disappeared. Seems so folks only want these peculiar gushing statements of how brilliant he is.

Alka Hughes-Hallett
Alka Hughes-Hallett
1 year ago

I agree. I noticed.
The interview of a man who is pro freedom of speech and the removal of any criticism of his views and disapproval of his techniques- that is so contradictory to good journalism and so unlike this forum’s original stance.

Andrew D
Andrew D
1 year ago

Yes, it was benign. I imagine some eejit flagged it up but it’ll probably be back. If not, you may be right – beginning of the end of a brief but glorious period of free thinking.

B Emery
B Emery
1 year ago

Actually emailed support last week, still heard nothing, it’s been a massive problem for me. Some subjects get me a lot of grief. Some really tame stuff never gets through. Other people seem allowed to post under ‘unherd reader’ or something stupid and they contacted me to change my user name to what they deemed appropriate. Seems no rules to how this place works, so it’s hard to trust. Wits end.

Billy Bob
Billy Bob
1 year ago

I believe it’s caused by users flagging comments they don’t like. This seems to hide them for a bit while I assume they’re checked. All mine eventually reappear unless the original comment I’ve replied to has been deleted.
My criticism of Kennedy has also been flagged for moderation, it appears some of the voices on here who criticise cancel culture are also quite keen to use it themselves when they read things they dislike

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago

What has happened to my very benign critique of the Kennedy Clan?

Surely NOT censorship of the vilest sort on UnHerd of all places?

Fafa Fafa
Fafa Fafa
1 year ago

I hope he stays clear of Dallas, if you know what I mean….

Fafa Fafa
Fafa Fafa
1 year ago

I hope he stays clear of Dallas, if you know what I mean….

Colin MacDonald
Colin MacDonald
1 year ago

Environmentalists worry about the end of the World and the “Middle Class” worry about the End of the Month. And Robert Kennedy worries about a hypothetical problem that might effect us in 30,000 years. I’ve yet to see anyone injured by nuclear waste.

Colin MacDonald
Colin MacDonald
1 year ago

Environmentalists worry about the end of the World and the “Middle Class” worry about the End of the Month. And Robert Kennedy worries about a hypothetical problem that might effect us in 30,000 years. I’ve yet to see anyone injured by nuclear waste.

Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
1 year ago

He makes a lot of sense but unfortunately he can’t possibly win the presidency with that gravel voice. I know that sounds superficial, but we live in a superficial culture where such things are important.

Last edited 1 year ago by Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
Jerry Carroll
1 year ago

He makes a lot of sense but unfortunately he can’t possibly win the presidency with that gravel voice. I know that sounds superficial, but we live in a superficial culture where such things are important.

Last edited 1 year ago by Jerry Carroll
Guy Aston
Guy Aston
11 months ago

Funny, but Mussolin wanted to call his new party “Corporatist”, but they didn’t think it would catch on. What did they chose? Fascism.

Guy Aston
Guy Aston
11 months ago

Funny, but Mussolin wanted to call his new party “Corporatist”, but they didn’t think it would catch on. What did they chose? Fascism.

N T
N T
1 year ago

the only complaint i have with this interview was the missed opportunity to follow up on the SCOTUS nomination of KBJ. I am curious what he would say he would do, now, in a hypothetical situation.
i disagree with him on several fronts, but i appreciate what feels like sincerity and honesty.

David Lindsay
David Lindsay
1 year ago

It is not as if Robert F. Kennedy Jr is going to be nominated, but while I appreciate that he is anti-war, that he is economically egalitarian by American standards, and that he is accordingly averse to erosions of civil liberties, he is also an anti-industrial Malthusian, an anti-vaxxer, and, well, yes, a very liberal Catholic indeed, who therefore lacks the philosophical foundation of a truly radical alternative.

What, though, of the idea that he will take 15 per cent in any closed primary, and at least double that in Massachusetts, out of dynastic loyalty? Ted Kennedy could not win the nomination against Jimmy Carter as long ago as 1980, and even in unison with John Kerry and Deval Patrick, he could not persuade the Bay State’s Democrats to prefer Barack Obama to Hillary Clinton in 2008. Even the sort of voters to whom the whole Kennedy thing is supposed to appeal are far less commonly Democrats these days. They are a much smaller proportion of the electorate at large. And more than half of them were not born when Bobby Kennedy was assassinated, 55 years ago. What do the Kennedys mean to anyone under 70?

There has never been the class consciousness in the United States that there has been in Europe and the Old Commonwealth, and it has declined in those places under American influence. But when the tide turns there, then it will turn everywhere. The failure of the woke movement to take economic inequality seriously, and therefore to include vast numbers of its victims, may well be the turning point. This, though, does not look like that point just yet.

Nanu Mitchell
Nanu Mitchell
1 year ago
Reply to  David Lindsay

Antivaxxer?? Read the book and do your homework- you are a teeny bit behind the times.

Nona Yubiz
Nona Yubiz
1 year ago
Reply to  Nanu Mitchell

RFK, Jr. is a well-known antivaxxer. Not just anti-COVID vaccines, but anti-vaccine in general. Believes that vaccines cause autism. This is well-documented.

Nona Yubiz
Nona Yubiz
1 year ago
Reply to  Nanu Mitchell

RFK, Jr. is a well-known antivaxxer. Not just anti-COVID vaccines, but anti-vaccine in general. Believes that vaccines cause autism. This is well-documented.

Lillian Fry
Lillian Fry
1 year ago
Reply to  David Lindsay

I say Bernie Sanders with better messaging. I am with RFK on covid vaccines, nuclear power generation and ending the proxy war in Ukraine. But he trots out long-time leftist ideas in every other area. He doesn’t use Bernie’s script but in his view it is corporations and rich people who are at fault. Anyone reading Matt Taibbi’s Twitter reports can see that it is government power that is coercing private entities, not the other way around. Not that there isn’t bribery and corruption but corporations did not come up with ESG, it was the administrative state through regulation. The big tech companies were threatened by Congress and these same agencies to go along with the crushing of dissidents on their sites.
On race, he seems to believe systemic racism exists and he cites a need for young black children to be able to see people like themselves in our institutions. How do we achieve that? He fudged his answer on equity and what it means. He mentioned lack of access to healthcare (Medicare for all, maybe?), and redlining a favorite of the left in explaining home ownership inequities. These issues are complex and only demagogues like Sanders and other leftists offer simple solutions.
Kennedy did not lead his statement about why he is running with support for free speech although he has stressed it in other statements. He has been a radical environmentalist and is on record as calling climate a “public health crisis. “ He used the word crisis here when questioned about his record. He certainly understands censorship of covid dissidents but has in the past suggested we need laws to punish “climate deniers.” Climate is also a complex problem and those who question the role of carbon and the proposed solutions have been excluded from the conversation. Kennedy is obviously opposed to continued use of fossil fuels and against using using nuclear. So does he think renewables are the answer? I wish Sayers had asked him.
I was a big fan of John Kennedy as were many in my generation and I was a Peace Corps volunteer. The Peace Corps ideal lost a lot in execution in my experience. I served in West Africa and can say that in the late 60s we were respected in that part of the world. Today the Africans say when they deal with China they get an airport, when they deal with us, they get a lecture. Mostly today about why they should not use their vast oil reserves.
Finally, Kennedy suffers from a bit of a messiah complex, stating that he is the only one that can essentially restore our past glories, when we had “moral authority.” What does he mean by that and doesn’t it contradict his litany of our foreign policy failures since at least the 50s?

Nanu Mitchell
Nanu Mitchell
1 year ago
Reply to  David Lindsay

Antivaxxer?? Read the book and do your homework- you are a teeny bit behind the times.

Lillian Fry
Lillian Fry
1 year ago
Reply to  David Lindsay

I say Bernie Sanders with better messaging. I am with RFK on covid vaccines, nuclear power generation and ending the proxy war in Ukraine. But he trots out long-time leftist ideas in every other area. He doesn’t use Bernie’s script but in his view it is corporations and rich people who are at fault. Anyone reading Matt Taibbi’s Twitter reports can see that it is government power that is coercing private entities, not the other way around. Not that there isn’t bribery and corruption but corporations did not come up with ESG, it was the administrative state through regulation. The big tech companies were threatened by Congress and these same agencies to go along with the crushing of dissidents on their sites.
On race, he seems to believe systemic racism exists and he cites a need for young black children to be able to see people like themselves in our institutions. How do we achieve that? He fudged his answer on equity and what it means. He mentioned lack of access to healthcare (Medicare for all, maybe?), and redlining a favorite of the left in explaining home ownership inequities. These issues are complex and only demagogues like Sanders and other leftists offer simple solutions.
Kennedy did not lead his statement about why he is running with support for free speech although he has stressed it in other statements. He has been a radical environmentalist and is on record as calling climate a “public health crisis. “ He used the word crisis here when questioned about his record. He certainly understands censorship of covid dissidents but has in the past suggested we need laws to punish “climate deniers.” Climate is also a complex problem and those who question the role of carbon and the proposed solutions have been excluded from the conversation. Kennedy is obviously opposed to continued use of fossil fuels and against using using nuclear. So does he think renewables are the answer? I wish Sayers had asked him.
I was a big fan of John Kennedy as were many in my generation and I was a Peace Corps volunteer. The Peace Corps ideal lost a lot in execution in my experience. I served in West Africa and can say that in the late 60s we were respected in that part of the world. Today the Africans say when they deal with China they get an airport, when they deal with us, they get a lecture. Mostly today about why they should not use their vast oil reserves.
Finally, Kennedy suffers from a bit of a messiah complex, stating that he is the only one that can essentially restore our past glories, when we had “moral authority.” What does he mean by that and doesn’t it contradict his litany of our foreign policy failures since at least the 50s?

David Lindsay
David Lindsay
1 year ago

It is not as if Robert F. Kennedy Jr is going to be nominated, but while I appreciate that he is anti-war, that he is economically egalitarian by American standards, and that he is accordingly averse to erosions of civil liberties, he is also an anti-industrial Malthusian, an anti-vaxxer, and, well, yes, a very liberal Catholic indeed, who therefore lacks the philosophical foundation of a truly radical alternative.

What, though, of the idea that he will take 15 per cent in any closed primary, and at least double that in Massachusetts, out of dynastic loyalty? Ted Kennedy could not win the nomination against Jimmy Carter as long ago as 1980, and even in unison with John Kerry and Deval Patrick, he could not persuade the Bay State’s Democrats to prefer Barack Obama to Hillary Clinton in 2008. Even the sort of voters to whom the whole Kennedy thing is supposed to appeal are far less commonly Democrats these days. They are a much smaller proportion of the electorate at large. And more than half of them were not born when Bobby Kennedy was assassinated, 55 years ago. What do the Kennedys mean to anyone under 70?

There has never been the class consciousness in the United States that there has been in Europe and the Old Commonwealth, and it has declined in those places under American influence. But when the tide turns there, then it will turn everywhere. The failure of the woke movement to take economic inequality seriously, and therefore to include vast numbers of its victims, may well be the turning point. This, though, does not look like that point just yet.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago

Do we really need another Kennedy, we’ve already had four?

The first was the worst, the second the best, the third had promise, and the fourth was feeble.

Last edited 1 year ago by Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago

Do we really need another Kennedy, we’ve already had four?

The first was the worst, the second the best, the third had promise, and the fourth was feeble.

Last edited 1 year ago by Charles Stanhope
Robbie K
Robbie K
1 year ago

Just when you think things can’t get any crazier. Truly, the lunatics are taking over the asylum.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
Reply to  Robbie K

Too true.

Charles Stanhope
Charles Stanhope
1 year ago
Reply to  Robbie K

Too true.

Robbie K
Robbie K
1 year ago

Just when you think things can’t get any crazier. Truly, the lunatics are taking over the asylum.