Good article on a very important subject. Which the MSM seem – so typically – to be largely ignoring (though I must admit, I don’t really do TV and radio news much these days, so I might be wrong).
Turkey really does seem to behave far more like a non-aligned country than a NATO one much of the time (I’m not saying that’s necessarily wrong or may not be in Turkey’s best interests). But not sure they’d get into NATO today if they weren’t already members.
Peter B
11 months ago
Good article on a very important subject. Which the MSM seem – so typically – to be largely ignoring (though I must admit, I don’t really do TV and radio news much these days, so I might be wrong).
Turkey really does seem to behave far more like a non-aligned country than a NATO one much of the time (I’m not saying that’s necessarily wrong or may not be in Turkey’s best interests). But not sure they’d get into NATO today if they weren’t already members.
Suzanne C.
11 months ago
Please don’t inflate what happened on January 6th to the place of a serious challenge. It was a bunch of understandably frustrated people with the usual smattering of crazies who watched much bigger and more violent and destructive protests get a nod and a wink the previous year testing the waters. As could have been predicted, the same indulgence was not shown to Trumpies as to BLM. The capitol is fine but several major US cities are a shell of what they were three years ago and that’s okay with the progressives.
Indeed if their is a coup in Turkey it will be a real coup,
Suzanne C.
11 months ago
Please don’t inflate what happened on January 6th to the place of a serious challenge. It was a bunch of understandably frustrated people with the usual smattering of crazies who watched much bigger and more violent and destructive protests get a nod and a wink the previous year testing the waters. As could have been predicted, the same indulgence was not shown to Trumpies as to BLM. The capitol is fine but several major US cities are a shell of what they were three years ago and that’s okay with the progressives.
Amos Farrell
11 months ago
“The President’s complete control of state institutions and his dominance of the media creates nothing close to a level playing field.”
Sound familiar?
Amos Farrell
11 months ago
“The President’s complete control of state institutions and his dominance of the media creates nothing close to a level playing field.”
Sound familiar?
Milton Gibbon
11 months ago
There is a good (though skewed) BBC documentary about him at the moment. Of course it glosses over his achievements and paints even his political success in a sinister light – not that there isn’t a darker side to him. It relies heavily on english-speaking liberals wringing their hands and dead-eyed cronies who uniformly say “nothing to see here”. I haven’t finished it yet but would definitely recommend. The BBC should concentrate on making more things like this.
He is a rabid antisemite and a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood and lives in a 400 million dollar mansion. There is no dark side, he is dark through and through.
He is a rabid antisemite and a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood and lives in a 400 million dollar mansion. There is no dark side, he is dark through and through.
Erdogan is a rabid antisemite and a supporter of the Muslim brotherhood. There is no dark side. He is dark through and through.
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Milton Gibbon
11 months ago
There is a good (though skewed) BBC documentary about him at the moment. Of course it glosses over his achievements and paints even his political success in a sinister light – not that there isn’t a darker side to him. It relies heavily on english-speaking liberals wringing their hands and dead-eyed cronies who uniformly say “nothing to see here”. I haven’t finished it yet but would definitely recommend. The BBC should concentrate on making more things like this.
Brendan O'Leary
11 months ago
I just spent a week in small-town Turkey on business, which is not nearly enough to really gauge a public mood, but people I spoke to do seem fed up with Erdogan. More on inflation and (alleged) corruption. The freedom thing didn’t seem uppermost in their minds. Although all I spoke to thought that the media was concealing Erdogan’s (alleged) illness.
The announcement of a “new” (actually long-existing and known about) “billion barrel” oilfield discovery near the Syrian border was greeted with cynicism as timed electoral propaganda.
I watched the BBC documentary last night and would concur with Milton Gibbon’s assessment in the comments here.
Brendan O'Leary
11 months ago
I just spent a week in small-town Turkey on business, which is not nearly enough to really gauge a public mood, but people I spoke to do seem fed up with Erdogan. More on inflation and (alleged) corruption. The freedom thing didn’t seem uppermost in their minds. Although all I spoke to thought that the media was concealing Erdogan’s (alleged) illness.
The announcement of a “new” (actually long-existing and known about) “billion barrel” oilfield discovery near the Syrian border was greeted with cynicism as timed electoral propaganda.
I watched the BBC documentary last night and would concur with Milton Gibbon’s assessment in the comments here.
Nick Faulks
11 months ago
Bookies are making Kilicdaroglu the clear favourite to win the election. But what are the odds that he would then survive long as the next President?
Nick Faulks
11 months ago
Bookies are making Kilicdaroglu the clear favourite to win the election. But what are the odds that he would then survive long as the next President?
Andrew Boughton
11 months ago
Thanks for this highly explanatory essay. The 2016 coup was exciting at first, but strangely incompetent. They could easily have won, but inexplicably let E. simply proceed unimpeded.
As for his use of “takkiye” as a cover for pan-Islamism, much under-studied. But to do so could compromise our role via a vis Bosnia in the Balkan wars. Severely.
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Andrew Boughton
11 months ago
Thanks for this highly explanatory essay. The 2016 coup was exciting at first, but strangely incompetent. They could easily have won, but inexplicably let E. simply proceed unimpeded.
As for his use of “takkiye” as a cover for pan-Islamism, much under-studied. But to do so could compromise our role via a vis Bosnia in the Balkan wars. Severely.
Last edited 11 months ago by Andrew Boughton
Kent Ausburn
11 months ago
Does anyone seriously believe Erodan will go quietly into the political night, whether he wins the election ir not? I suspect the election fix is already in.
Kent Ausburn
11 months ago
Does anyone seriously believe Erodan will go quietly into the political night, whether he wins the election ir not? I suspect the election fix is already in.
Jim McDonnell
11 months ago
Turkey might not be a good fit for the EU politically but there’s no good reason it shouldn’t be able to join the European Economic Area and keep working on its EU membership. The right kind of trade and diplomacy could make Turkey a major power not only in its own immediate back yard but amongst its fellow Turkic peoples to the east all the way to northern Afghanistan and (this next part could be really interesting) Xinjiang Province, China, otherwise known as East Turkestan. A new government might even want to improve relations with its NATO allies and take a look at the Irish Good Friday Accords playbook and use it as a guide for easing tensions with the Kurds on both sides of the border. This could be a real “Morning in Ankara” moment if Erdogan loses and his handpicked generals don’t keep him in office anyway..
Does “east all the way to northern Afghanistan” include Armenia?
Jim McDonnell
11 months ago
Turkey might not be a good fit for the EU politically but there’s no good reason it shouldn’t be able to join the European Economic Area and keep working on its EU membership. The right kind of trade and diplomacy could make Turkey a major power not only in its own immediate back yard but amongst its fellow Turkic peoples to the east all the way to northern Afghanistan and (this next part could be really interesting) Xinjiang Province, China, otherwise known as East Turkestan. A new government might even want to improve relations with its NATO allies and take a look at the Irish Good Friday Accords playbook and use it as a guide for easing tensions with the Kurds on both sides of the border. This could be a real “Morning in Ankara” moment if Erdogan loses and his handpicked generals don’t keep him in office anyway..
Walter Schwager
11 months ago
No mention of the disastrous multiple devaluations of the Turkish currency?
Walter Schwager
11 months ago
No mention of the disastrous multiple devaluations of the Turkish currency?
Good article on a very important subject. Which the MSM seem – so typically – to be largely ignoring (though I must admit, I don’t really do TV and radio news much these days, so I might be wrong).
Turkey really does seem to behave far more like a non-aligned country than a NATO one much of the time (I’m not saying that’s necessarily wrong or may not be in Turkey’s best interests). But not sure they’d get into NATO today if they weren’t already members.
Good article on a very important subject. Which the MSM seem – so typically – to be largely ignoring (though I must admit, I don’t really do TV and radio news much these days, so I might be wrong).
Turkey really does seem to behave far more like a non-aligned country than a NATO one much of the time (I’m not saying that’s necessarily wrong or may not be in Turkey’s best interests). But not sure they’d get into NATO today if they weren’t already members.
Please don’t inflate what happened on January 6th to the place of a serious challenge. It was a bunch of understandably frustrated people with the usual smattering of crazies who watched much bigger and more violent and destructive protests get a nod and a wink the previous year testing the waters. As could have been predicted, the same indulgence was not shown to Trumpies as to BLM. The capitol is fine but several major US cities are a shell of what they were three years ago and that’s okay with the progressives.
Indeed if their is a coup in Turkey it will be a real coup,
Indeed if their is a coup in Turkey it will be a real coup,
Please don’t inflate what happened on January 6th to the place of a serious challenge. It was a bunch of understandably frustrated people with the usual smattering of crazies who watched much bigger and more violent and destructive protests get a nod and a wink the previous year testing the waters. As could have been predicted, the same indulgence was not shown to Trumpies as to BLM. The capitol is fine but several major US cities are a shell of what they were three years ago and that’s okay with the progressives.
“The President’s complete control of state institutions and his dominance of the media creates nothing close to a level playing field.”
Sound familiar?
“The President’s complete control of state institutions and his dominance of the media creates nothing close to a level playing field.”
Sound familiar?
There is a good (though skewed) BBC documentary about him at the moment. Of course it glosses over his achievements and paints even his political success in a sinister light – not that there isn’t a darker side to him. It relies heavily on english-speaking liberals wringing their hands and dead-eyed cronies who uniformly say “nothing to see here”. I haven’t finished it yet but would definitely recommend. The BBC should concentrate on making more things like this.
He is a rabid antisemite and a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood and lives in a 400 million dollar mansion. There is no dark side, he is dark through and through.
Indeed. Not a nice chap!
Indeed. Not a nice chap!
Erdogan is a rabid antisemite and a supporter of the Muslim brotherhood. There is no dark side. He is dark through and through.
He is a rabid antisemite and a supporter of the Muslim Brotherhood and lives in a 400 million dollar mansion. There is no dark side, he is dark through and through.
Erdogan is a rabid antisemite and a supporter of the Muslim brotherhood. There is no dark side. He is dark through and through.
There is a good (though skewed) BBC documentary about him at the moment. Of course it glosses over his achievements and paints even his political success in a sinister light – not that there isn’t a darker side to him. It relies heavily on english-speaking liberals wringing their hands and dead-eyed cronies who uniformly say “nothing to see here”. I haven’t finished it yet but would definitely recommend. The BBC should concentrate on making more things like this.
I just spent a week in small-town Turkey on business, which is not nearly enough to really gauge a public mood, but people I spoke to do seem fed up with Erdogan. More on inflation and (alleged) corruption. The freedom thing didn’t seem uppermost in their minds. Although all I spoke to thought that the media was concealing Erdogan’s (alleged) illness.
The announcement of a “new” (actually long-existing and known about) “billion barrel” oilfield discovery near the Syrian border was greeted with cynicism as timed electoral propaganda.
I watched the BBC documentary last night and would concur with Milton Gibbon’s assessment in the comments here.
I just spent a week in small-town Turkey on business, which is not nearly enough to really gauge a public mood, but people I spoke to do seem fed up with Erdogan. More on inflation and (alleged) corruption. The freedom thing didn’t seem uppermost in their minds. Although all I spoke to thought that the media was concealing Erdogan’s (alleged) illness.
The announcement of a “new” (actually long-existing and known about) “billion barrel” oilfield discovery near the Syrian border was greeted with cynicism as timed electoral propaganda.
I watched the BBC documentary last night and would concur with Milton Gibbon’s assessment in the comments here.
Bookies are making Kilicdaroglu the clear favourite to win the election. But what are the odds that he would then survive long as the next President?
Bookies are making Kilicdaroglu the clear favourite to win the election. But what are the odds that he would then survive long as the next President?
Thanks for this highly explanatory essay. The 2016 coup was exciting at first, but strangely incompetent. They could easily have won, but inexplicably let E. simply proceed unimpeded.
As for his use of “takkiye” as a cover for pan-Islamism, much under-studied. But to do so could compromise our role via a vis Bosnia in the Balkan wars. Severely.
Thanks for this highly explanatory essay. The 2016 coup was exciting at first, but strangely incompetent. They could easily have won, but inexplicably let E. simply proceed unimpeded.
As for his use of “takkiye” as a cover for pan-Islamism, much under-studied. But to do so could compromise our role via a vis Bosnia in the Balkan wars. Severely.
Does anyone seriously believe Erodan will go quietly into the political night, whether he wins the election ir not? I suspect the election fix is already in.
Does anyone seriously believe Erodan will go quietly into the political night, whether he wins the election ir not? I suspect the election fix is already in.
Turkey might not be a good fit for the EU politically but there’s no good reason it shouldn’t be able to join the European Economic Area and keep working on its EU membership. The right kind of trade and diplomacy could make Turkey a major power not only in its own immediate back yard but amongst its fellow Turkic peoples to the east all the way to northern Afghanistan and (this next part could be really interesting) Xinjiang Province, China, otherwise known as East Turkestan. A new government might even want to improve relations with its NATO allies and take a look at the Irish Good Friday Accords playbook and use it as a guide for easing tensions with the Kurds on both sides of the border. This could be a real “Morning in Ankara” moment if Erdogan loses and his handpicked generals don’t keep him in office anyway..
Does “east all the way to northern Afghanistan” include Armenia?
Oh, VERY doubtful….
Oh, VERY doubtful….
Does “east all the way to northern Afghanistan” include Armenia?
Turkey might not be a good fit for the EU politically but there’s no good reason it shouldn’t be able to join the European Economic Area and keep working on its EU membership. The right kind of trade and diplomacy could make Turkey a major power not only in its own immediate back yard but amongst its fellow Turkic peoples to the east all the way to northern Afghanistan and (this next part could be really interesting) Xinjiang Province, China, otherwise known as East Turkestan. A new government might even want to improve relations with its NATO allies and take a look at the Irish Good Friday Accords playbook and use it as a guide for easing tensions with the Kurds on both sides of the border. This could be a real “Morning in Ankara” moment if Erdogan loses and his handpicked generals don’t keep him in office anyway..
No mention of the disastrous multiple devaluations of the Turkish currency?
No mention of the disastrous multiple devaluations of the Turkish currency?