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Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
1 year ago

As a fan of Nick’s work for over 40 years, this makes sense. When churches were aligned with a dominant social narrative, obviously, the teenage me rebelled against them. But now that churches are often aligned with a counter-cultural narrative, I’m more inclined to support them. Just to annoy the wokies and to get the row going lol. Comparing the 2, I have to say I find modern wokies to be much more preachy and intolerant of difference than any cleric ever was.  

Dominic S
Dominic S
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

Except that he’s completely 100% wrong on one very important thing, the devil isn’t seeking forgiveness in any way – He hates God and has no desire for redemption. There is nothing heroic or attractive about Satan whatsoever.

Linda Fahey
Linda Fahey
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

When will everyone stop dragging out ye ole ‘woke this woke that answer to all personal ills’. Yeesh, It’s lazy.
“Wokies” ? What then are “the other guys”, “asleepies”?

On the actual subject, Nick Cave is masterful in his understanding of nuance. And I too have been a fan since the start.
If you haven’t listened to Faith, Hope and Carnage, I highly recommend it.

Dominic S
Dominic S
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

Except that he’s completely 100% wrong on one very important thing, the devil isn’t seeking forgiveness in any way – He hates God and has no desire for redemption. There is nothing heroic or attractive about Satan whatsoever.

Linda Fahey
Linda Fahey
1 year ago
Reply to  Frank McCusker

When will everyone stop dragging out ye ole ‘woke this woke that answer to all personal ills’. Yeesh, It’s lazy.
“Wokies” ? What then are “the other guys”, “asleepies”?

On the actual subject, Nick Cave is masterful in his understanding of nuance. And I too have been a fan since the start.
If you haven’t listened to Faith, Hope and Carnage, I highly recommend it.

Frank McCusker
Frank McCusker
1 year ago

As a fan of Nick’s work for over 40 years, this makes sense. When churches were aligned with a dominant social narrative, obviously, the teenage me rebelled against them. But now that churches are often aligned with a counter-cultural narrative, I’m more inclined to support them. Just to annoy the wokies and to get the row going lol. Comparing the 2, I have to say I find modern wokies to be much more preachy and intolerant of difference than any cleric ever was.  

CF Hankinson
CF Hankinson
1 year ago

Sounds to me that he had a very good mother. I did too and it means that, as you have to keep reinventing yourself as challenges arise, you fail but you get up.
It was a very nourishing read.

CF Hankinson
CF Hankinson
1 year ago

Sounds to me that he had a very good mother. I did too and it means that, as you have to keep reinventing yourself as challenges arise, you fail but you get up.
It was a very nourishing read.

Elliott Bjorn
Elliott Bjorn
1 year ago

””God Moves in a Mysterious Way”

A song from 1773 by William Cowper…………

Elliott Bjorn
Elliott Bjorn
1 year ago

””God Moves in a Mysterious Way”

A song from 1773 by William Cowper…………

Martin Rossol
Martin Rossol
1 year ago

Thanks for the interview. The timing with Holy Week, perfect.

Martin Rossol
Martin Rossol
1 year ago

Thanks for the interview. The timing with Holy Week, perfect.

Lesley van Reenen
Lesley van Reenen
1 year ago

Love that he loves Sir Leonard Cohen, my favourite poet and musician of all time.

Lesley van Reenen
Lesley van Reenen
1 year ago

Love that he loves Sir Leonard Cohen, my favourite poet and musician of all time.

Iris Violet
Iris Violet
1 year ago

Can we listen to this anywhere rather than read? Wondered ahead of long car journey. Ta

Freddie Sayers
Freddie Sayers
1 year ago
Reply to  Iris Violet

The video is embedded at the top! Also podcast version here:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2cscUFY9cF9yP7TY3NMdHH

Iris Violet
Iris Violet
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddie Sayers

Thank you

Iris Violet
Iris Violet
1 year ago
Reply to  Freddie Sayers

Thank you

Freddie Sayers
Freddie Sayers
1 year ago
Reply to  Iris Violet

The video is embedded at the top! Also podcast version here:

https://open.spotify.com/episode/2cscUFY9cF9yP7TY3NMdHH

Iris Violet
Iris Violet
1 year ago

Can we listen to this anywhere rather than read? Wondered ahead of long car journey. Ta

Mark Knight
Mark Knight
1 year ago

A long form video interview with Nick Cave, this is why I subscribe to UnHerd. Now do Tracy Emin. Thanks.

Stoater D
Stoater D
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Knight

Tracy Emin ?
Why ?

Mark Knight
Mark Knight
1 year ago
Reply to  Stoater D

Nick Cave and Tracey Emin, the two most influential artist of my life time, for their longevity, integrity, and evolution. IMO.

Mark Knight
Mark Knight
1 year ago
Reply to  Stoater D

Nick Cave and Tracey Emin, the two most influential artist of my life time, for their longevity, integrity, and evolution. IMO.

Stoater D
Stoater D
1 year ago
Reply to  Mark Knight

Tracy Emin ?
Why ?

Mark Knight
Mark Knight
1 year ago

A long form video interview with Nick Cave, this is why I subscribe to UnHerd. Now do Tracy Emin. Thanks.

Eric Parker
Eric Parker
1 year ago

Very nice ‘misprint’ in the intro byline for Freddie Sayers, who appears as Nick Cave.

Maybe this was proof-read by a chatbot?

Happy Easter.

Eric Parker
Eric Parker
1 year ago

Very nice ‘misprint’ in the intro byline for Freddie Sayers, who appears as Nick Cave.

Maybe this was proof-read by a chatbot?

Happy Easter.

William Tallon
William Tallon
1 year ago

I never “got” Nick Cave’s music or lyrics despite being pressed by my friends to listen back in the day. “He’s a genius…” they earnestly told me with awe and reverence, but I genuinely found it boring and hugely overrated. I still do. Having read this interview I haven’t changed my view of Nick Cave or of rock stars coming over all intellectual and discussing the meaning of life…

William Tallon
William Tallon
1 year ago

I never “got” Nick Cave’s music or lyrics despite being pressed by my friends to listen back in the day. “He’s a genius…” they earnestly told me with awe and reverence, but I genuinely found it boring and hugely overrated. I still do. Having read this interview I haven’t changed my view of Nick Cave or of rock stars coming over all intellectual and discussing the meaning of life…

Dermot O'Sullivan
Dermot O'Sullivan
1 year ago

Worth the sub on its own. Thank you. Some of you may be interested in this new book by John MacKenna, ABSENT Friend, a meditation on a decades long friendship with Leonard Cohen.

Martin Gilsenan
Martin Gilsenan
1 year ago

Thank you, I will read with interest.

Martin Gilsenan
Martin Gilsenan
1 year ago

Thank you, I will read with interest.

Dermot O'Sullivan
Dermot O'Sullivan
1 year ago

Worth the sub on its own. Thank you. Some of you may be interested in this new book by John MacKenna, ABSENT Friend, a meditation on a decades long friendship with Leonard Cohen.