Have you ever considered doing some productive work? You could collect litter and sweep the local roadsides.
Anthony Roe
1 year ago
Have you ever considered doing some productive work? You could collect litter and sweep the local roadsides.
Cynthia W.
1 year ago
“[Shopping] is also the only activity available to you if it’s 3am and you’re feeding a newborn and you don’t have the mental capacity for anything more than scrolling.”
Bosh. Women were up at night with babies long before “scrolling” existed. I remember watching “South Pacific” on Turner Classics every night for two weeks with my third child. Then they changed the schedule, and we watched “Oklahoma.” I learned all the songs, and my son still likes musicals.
Turner Classics and AMC sustained me through two infants, as did Nick at Nite. Shopping? Ugh. I’ve lived in Florida for over two years and still haven’t bought a bathing suit. And I’m a size 5.
Turner Classics and AMC sustained me through two infants, as did Nick at Nite. Shopping? Ugh. I’ve lived in Florida for over two years and still haven’t bought a bathing suit. And I’m a size 5.
Only if you think feeding your child is not an activity worthy of consideration. Not sure if this entire article is satire or not??
Cynthia W.
1 year ago
“[Shopping] is also the only activity available to you if it’s 3am and you’re feeding a newborn and you don’t have the mental capacity for anything more than scrolling.”
Bosh. Women were up at night with babies long before “scrolling” existed. I remember watching “South Pacific” on Turner Classics every night for two weeks with my third child. Then they changed the schedule, and we watched “Oklahoma.” I learned all the songs, and my son still likes musicals.
Jeff Butcher
1 year ago
“The challenge of being in the moment with even the most delightful baby has no policy-based solution. It’s not specific to American capitalism. It is something experienced by women — yes and some men, but, you know, you know — of all nationalities and demographics. “
There is one policy based solution that the United States remains incapable of adopting and that is parental leave of some sort. But why examine these sorts of ideas that might make a difference when you can spend your time droning on about ‘whiteness’ and fat people?
Give me strength!
Oh, and apart from the breast feeding, I shared the care of our infants with my wife, and I’m terribly white and male and hetero and not even that fat.
How would parental leave policies change the reality of infant care? Taking care of a baby is delightful, exhausting, boring, exasperating, disgusting, frightening … in various combinations and sequences.
I understood Ms. Bovy’s point to be that “momfluencers” present only the most appealing aspects (and fashion accessories), giving the impression that if a mother experiences anything but joy, there is something wrong with her.
How would parental leave policies change the reality of infant care? Taking care of a baby is delightful, exhausting, boring, exasperating, disgusting, frightening … in various combinations and sequences.
I understood Ms. Bovy’s point to be that “momfluencers” present only the most appealing aspects (and fashion accessories), giving the impression that if a mother experiences anything but joy, there is something wrong with her.
Babies need crucial bonding time with their mothers for the first 3 years. Parental leave does not help with that.
Jeff Butcher
1 year ago
“The challenge of being in the moment with even the most delightful baby has no policy-based solution. It’s not specific to American capitalism. It is something experienced by women — yes and some men, but, you know, you know — of all nationalities and demographics. “
There is one policy based solution that the United States remains incapable of adopting and that is parental leave of some sort. But why examine these sorts of ideas that might make a difference when you can spend your time droning on about ‘whiteness’ and fat people?
Give me strength!
Oh, and apart from the breast feeding, I shared the care of our infants with my wife, and I’m terribly white and male and hetero and not even that fat.
polidori redux
1 year ago
No doubt I will soon join Joe Biden in the land of dribbling senility, but before I do I wll live through a period of watching the world go madder and madder.
In other news, or so I read, a chap in Missouri shot and killed a young kid who knocked on his front door. In the worst days of Olde England it was not customary to answer the front door waving your best weapon, and it was considered polite to ask “What do you want?” before killing someone.
Gawd ‘elp you all!
Edit: I misead the report. The boy wasn’t killed. Presumably the old fool in question couldn’t even shoot straight.
Still believing the media narrative eh? Here’s a tip…when they point out the races involved they are spinning a pov and it might be best to wait for more details.
Still believing the media narrative eh? Here’s a tip…when they point out the races involved they are spinning a pov and it might be best to wait for more details.
polidori redux
1 year ago
No doubt I will soon join Joe Biden in the land of dribbling senility, but before I do I wll live through a period of watching the world go madder and madder.
In other news, or so I read, a chap in Missouri shot and killed a young kid who knocked on his front door. In the worst days of Olde England it was not customary to answer the front door waving your best weapon, and it was considered polite to ask “What do you want?” before killing someone.
Gawd ‘elp you all!
Edit: I misead the report. The boy wasn’t killed. Presumably the old fool in question couldn’t even shoot straight.
Last edited 1 year ago by polidori redux
Matt M
1 year ago
Surely making motherhood attractive to young women is exactly what is needed at a time when many women are unwittingly putting off marriage and having children until it is too late for them biologically.
And I’m not sure what is wrong about being white, slim, attractive and having a wealthy husband and a bunch of happy kids. It seems a perfectly reasonable thing to aspire to.
It’s not unwittingly, circumstance of today’s social & economic reality, everything listed in the last part including ascribing status to having white skin may be aspirational or sold as such but its out of reach for the majority.
I think it is done unwittingly. Women have about ten years – 20 to 30 – to get hitched and start having kids. Too many of them (and the men they should be marrying) put it off until it is too late.
We should of course use policies to make it easier to buy a home and start a family.
Very true but until it becomes discouraged to rack up a high body count, pursue a fab career and then seek a high status man while discarding decent ones willing to commit, the issue won’t be solved anytime soon I’m afraid.
What’s needed is a redrawing and reframing of the conversation, the circumstances as you described them sound wonderful if you can get it! issue is that most are not able too.
What’s needed is a redrawing and reframing of the conversation, the circumstances as you described them sound wonderful if you can get it! issue is that most are not able too.
Very true but until it becomes discouraged to rack up a high body count, pursue a fab career and then seek a high status man while discarding decent ones willing to commit, the issue won’t be solved anytime soon I’m afraid.
I think it is done unwittingly. Women have about ten years – 20 to 30 – to get hitched and start having kids. Too many of them (and the men they should be marrying) put it off until it is too late.
We should of course use policies to make it easier to buy a home and start a family.
It’s not unwittingly, circumstance of today’s social & economic reality, everything listed in the last part including ascribing status to having white skin may be aspirational or sold as such but its out of reach for the majority.
Matt M
1 year ago
Surely making motherhood attractive to young women is exactly what is needed at a time when many women are unwittingly putting off marriage and having children until it is too late for them biologically.
And I’m not sure what is wrong about being white, slim, attractive and having a wealthy husband and a bunch of happy kids. It seems a perfectly reasonable thing to aspire to.
Benedict Waterson
1 year ago
Fascinating stuff
woman female
1 year ago
Great piece as always I want to be mother one-day reminds me to not get attached to a specific image of motherhood & maintain avenues of personal fulfillment outside of projecting a image even to myself
*weary sigh*
Heh!
Heh!
*weary sigh*
Have you ever considered doing some productive work? You could collect litter and sweep the local roadsides.
Have you ever considered doing some productive work? You could collect litter and sweep the local roadsides.
“[Shopping] is also the only activity available to you if it’s 3am and you’re feeding a newborn and you don’t have the mental capacity for anything more than scrolling.”
Bosh. Women were up at night with babies long before “scrolling” existed. I remember watching “South Pacific” on Turner Classics every night for two weeks with my third child. Then they changed the schedule, and we watched “Oklahoma.” I learned all the songs, and my son still likes musicals.
Turner Classics and AMC sustained me through two infants, as did Nick at Nite. Shopping? Ugh. I’ve lived in Florida for over two years and still haven’t bought a bathing suit. And I’m a size 5.
C-SPAN came on at 5:00 a.m. with an early preview of upcoming government. When we got a VCR – 5th baby? – it was like a miracle.
Oh, you said it! I had horrible hives for nearly 15 months due to lack of sleep when my youngest was born. But five babies! You EARNED that VCR!
Ten. We got a DVD player eventually.
That’s quite a hobby you got there, Cynthia.
Keeps me off the streets and out of the bars.
Keeps me off the streets and out of the bars.
Wow… salut! Wish I could have had my preferred number but like many of my generation I waited too long…
That’s quite a hobby you got there, Cynthia.
Wow… salut! Wish I could have had my preferred number but like many of my generation I waited too long…
Ten. We got a DVD player eventually.
Oh, you said it! I had horrible hives for nearly 15 months due to lack of sleep when my youngest was born. But five babies! You EARNED that VCR!
C-SPAN came on at 5:00 a.m. with an early preview of upcoming government. When we got a VCR – 5th baby? – it was like a miracle.
Only if you think feeding your child is not an activity worthy of consideration. Not sure if this entire article is satire or not??
Turner Classics and AMC sustained me through two infants, as did Nick at Nite. Shopping? Ugh. I’ve lived in Florida for over two years and still haven’t bought a bathing suit. And I’m a size 5.
Only if you think feeding your child is not an activity worthy of consideration. Not sure if this entire article is satire or not??
“[Shopping] is also the only activity available to you if it’s 3am and you’re feeding a newborn and you don’t have the mental capacity for anything more than scrolling.”
Bosh. Women were up at night with babies long before “scrolling” existed. I remember watching “South Pacific” on Turner Classics every night for two weeks with my third child. Then they changed the schedule, and we watched “Oklahoma.” I learned all the songs, and my son still likes musicals.
“The challenge of being in the moment with even the most delightful baby has no policy-based solution. It’s not specific to American capitalism. It is something experienced by women — yes and some men, but, you know, you know — of all nationalities and demographics. “
There is one policy based solution that the United States remains incapable of adopting and that is parental leave of some sort. But why examine these sorts of ideas that might make a difference when you can spend your time droning on about ‘whiteness’ and fat people?
Give me strength!
Oh, and apart from the breast feeding, I shared the care of our infants with my wife, and I’m terribly white and male and hetero and not even that fat.
How would parental leave policies change the reality of infant care? Taking care of a baby is delightful, exhausting, boring, exasperating, disgusting, frightening … in various combinations and sequences.
I understood Ms. Bovy’s point to be that “momfluencers” present only the most appealing aspects (and fashion accessories), giving the impression that if a mother experiences anything but joy, there is something wrong with her.
Well, it would certainly make the early months a lot less arduous, especially for the mother
In some cases, that is certainly true.
In some cases, that is certainly true.
Well, it would certainly make the early months a lot less arduous, especially for the mother
Babies need crucial bonding time with their mothers for the first 3 years. Parental leave does not help with that.
How would parental leave policies change the reality of infant care? Taking care of a baby is delightful, exhausting, boring, exasperating, disgusting, frightening … in various combinations and sequences.
I understood Ms. Bovy’s point to be that “momfluencers” present only the most appealing aspects (and fashion accessories), giving the impression that if a mother experiences anything but joy, there is something wrong with her.
Babies need crucial bonding time with their mothers for the first 3 years. Parental leave does not help with that.
“The challenge of being in the moment with even the most delightful baby has no policy-based solution. It’s not specific to American capitalism. It is something experienced by women — yes and some men, but, you know, you know — of all nationalities and demographics. “
There is one policy based solution that the United States remains incapable of adopting and that is parental leave of some sort. But why examine these sorts of ideas that might make a difference when you can spend your time droning on about ‘whiteness’ and fat people?
Give me strength!
Oh, and apart from the breast feeding, I shared the care of our infants with my wife, and I’m terribly white and male and hetero and not even that fat.
No doubt I will soon join Joe Biden in the land of dribbling senility, but before I do I wll live through a period of watching the world go madder and madder.
In other news, or so I read, a chap in Missouri shot and killed a young kid who knocked on his front door. In the worst days of Olde England it was not customary to answer the front door waving your best weapon, and it was considered polite to ask “What do you want?” before killing someone.
Gawd ‘elp you all!
Edit: I misead the report. The boy wasn’t killed. Presumably the old fool in question couldn’t even shoot straight.
Still believing the media narrative eh? Here’s a tip…when they point out the races involved they are spinning a pov and it might be best to wait for more details.
Man shoots boy on doorstep in broad daylight. What kind of batshit crazy madhouse of a country are you living in?
Okay, give me your “narrative”.
Man shoots boy on doorstep in broad daylight. What kind of batshit crazy madhouse of a country are you living in?
Okay, give me your “narrative”.
Still believing the media narrative eh? Here’s a tip…when they point out the races involved they are spinning a pov and it might be best to wait for more details.
No doubt I will soon join Joe Biden in the land of dribbling senility, but before I do I wll live through a period of watching the world go madder and madder.
In other news, or so I read, a chap in Missouri shot and killed a young kid who knocked on his front door. In the worst days of Olde England it was not customary to answer the front door waving your best weapon, and it was considered polite to ask “What do you want?” before killing someone.
Gawd ‘elp you all!
Edit: I misead the report. The boy wasn’t killed. Presumably the old fool in question couldn’t even shoot straight.
Surely making motherhood attractive to young women is exactly what is needed at a time when many women are unwittingly putting off marriage and having children until it is too late for them biologically.
And I’m not sure what is wrong about being white, slim, attractive and having a wealthy husband and a bunch of happy kids. It seems a perfectly reasonable thing to aspire to.
It’s not unwittingly, circumstance of today’s social & economic reality, everything listed in the last part including ascribing status to having white skin may be aspirational or sold as such but its out of reach for the majority.
I think it is done unwittingly. Women have about ten years – 20 to 30 – to get hitched and start having kids. Too many of them (and the men they should be marrying) put it off until it is too late.
We should of course use policies to make it easier to buy a home and start a family.
Very true but until it becomes discouraged to rack up a high body count, pursue a fab career and then seek a high status man while discarding decent ones willing to commit, the issue won’t be solved anytime soon I’m afraid.
What’s needed is a redrawing and reframing of the conversation, the circumstances as you described them sound wonderful if you can get it! issue is that most are not able too.
What’s needed is a redrawing and reframing of the conversation, the circumstances as you described them sound wonderful if you can get it! issue is that most are not able too.
Very true but until it becomes discouraged to rack up a high body count, pursue a fab career and then seek a high status man while discarding decent ones willing to commit, the issue won’t be solved anytime soon I’m afraid.
I think it is done unwittingly. Women have about ten years – 20 to 30 – to get hitched and start having kids. Too many of them (and the men they should be marrying) put it off until it is too late.
We should of course use policies to make it easier to buy a home and start a family.
It’s not unwittingly, circumstance of today’s social & economic reality, everything listed in the last part including ascribing status to having white skin may be aspirational or sold as such but its out of reach for the majority.
Surely making motherhood attractive to young women is exactly what is needed at a time when many women are unwittingly putting off marriage and having children until it is too late for them biologically.
And I’m not sure what is wrong about being white, slim, attractive and having a wealthy husband and a bunch of happy kids. It seems a perfectly reasonable thing to aspire to.
Fascinating stuff
Great piece as always I want to be mother one-day reminds me to not get attached to a specific image of motherhood & maintain avenues of personal fulfillment outside of projecting a image even to myself