Woman can now mean man.
Science can now mean conformist dogma.
Empirical evidence can now mean wonky computer model.
Mostly peaceful protest can now mean arsonist riot.
Violence can now mean hurty words.
Silence can now mean violence.
Religion of peace can now mean death cult.
Equity can now mean discrimination based on immutable characteristics.
And terrorist can now mean anyone who has a dissenting thought.
The pattern is clear. When reality conflicts with progressive beliefs, the progressive chooses to redefine words. And if that doesn’t work, they simply categorise words as problematic and coerce others to stop using them. We are being robbed of our ability to disagree and the range of thought is being diminished.
“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.” “But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.” “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”
And now we add “Submission is safety” to the original manual.
“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.” “But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.” “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”
And now we add “Submission is safety” to the original manual.
Woman can now mean man.
Science can now mean conformist dogma.
Empirical evidence can now mean wonky computer model.
Mostly peaceful protest can now mean arsonist riot.
Violence can now mean hurty words.
Silence can now mean violence.
Religion of peace can now mean death cult.
Equity can now mean discrimination based on immutable characteristics.
And terrorist can now mean anyone who has a dissenting thought.
The pattern is clear. When reality conflicts with progressive beliefs, the progressive chooses to redefine words. And if that doesn’t work, they simply categorise words as problematic and coerce others to stop using them. We are being robbed of our ability to disagree and the range of thought is being diminished.
Last edited 1 year ago by Nell Clover
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
“Shawcross’s only demand is that it returns to its core purpose: preventing the next Thomas Mair or Salman Abedi, not the next online shitposter or Andrew Tate”
Unfortunately, in so far as Prevent relies on the input of those whose ideological beliefs oblige them to look away from the individuals who present a real threat and instead seek to present a false equivalence between them and those who they ideologically disapprove of they will be unable to focus their energy on combatting the real threat.
Instead they will waste their time and concern on the millions who read the Daily Mail and the like.
…and taxpayer’s money advancing their ideological mission.
Jeremy Bray
1 year ago
“Shawcross’s only demand is that it returns to its core purpose: preventing the next Thomas Mair or Salman Abedi, not the next online shitposter or Andrew Tate”
Unfortunately, in so far as Prevent relies on the input of those whose ideological beliefs oblige them to look away from the individuals who present a real threat and instead seek to present a false equivalence between them and those who they ideologically disapprove of they will be unable to focus their energy on combatting the real threat.
Instead they will waste their time and concern on the millions who read the Daily Mail and the like.
John Dellingby
1 year ago
After reading this (as well as other analysis of Prevent), it is pretty galling to claim that Prevent has an Islamophobia problem when most of the people who work under it try to avoid mentioning Islam or any of its more hardline tendencies as motivations for violent attacks. Yet they’re happy to look anywhere else it seems.
This shows just how far the modern left has gone off the rails, and it’s made worse by the fact they run all these groups and organisations. I mean, associating things like Brexit or having parents who read the Daily Mail as being red flags for right wing extremism is astounding when the former was voted for by a majority of the electorate and the latter is the second most popular newspaper in Britain. Heaven offend these people speak to most ordinary folk outside their social circles after a few drinks, they’ll faint when some of the views get expressed.
I also find it amusing in a way how systems like Prevent and the people who work for them treat Islamists and far right extremists. The former are more or less mollycoddled and treated as victims having been groomed by people who aren’t “real Muslims” and such. The latter however are often lambasted, condemned for all time as racist bigots, “must have got it from home”, need to be bombarded by ED&I courses and literature etc. I remember seeing one interactive example in recent years to try and counter far right extremism on social media where you were given a choice of sharing and liking a friends happy clappy, “we love everyone”’post or a stand up for Britain post or some such. If you select the latter this somehow escalates almost immediately into meeting the admin of that group for drinks which is laughable. Safe to say, these people don’t have a clue.
Sorry for the rant.
John Dellingby
1 year ago
After reading this (as well as other analysis of Prevent), it is pretty galling to claim that Prevent has an Islamophobia problem when most of the people who work under it try to avoid mentioning Islam or any of its more hardline tendencies as motivations for violent attacks. Yet they’re happy to look anywhere else it seems.
This shows just how far the modern left has gone off the rails, and it’s made worse by the fact they run all these groups and organisations. I mean, associating things like Brexit or having parents who read the Daily Mail as being red flags for right wing extremism is astounding when the former was voted for by a majority of the electorate and the latter is the second most popular newspaper in Britain. Heaven offend these people speak to most ordinary folk outside their social circles after a few drinks, they’ll faint when some of the views get expressed.
I also find it amusing in a way how systems like Prevent and the people who work for them treat Islamists and far right extremists. The former are more or less mollycoddled and treated as victims having been groomed by people who aren’t “real Muslims” and such. The latter however are often lambasted, condemned for all time as racist bigots, “must have got it from home”, need to be bombarded by ED&I courses and literature etc. I remember seeing one interactive example in recent years to try and counter far right extremism on social media where you were given a choice of sharing and liking a friends happy clappy, “we love everyone”’post or a stand up for Britain post or some such. If you select the latter this somehow escalates almost immediately into meeting the admin of that group for drinks which is laughable. Safe to say, these people don’t have a clue.
Sorry for the rant.
John Riordan
1 year ago
It’s obviously moronic and frustrating, but the reality is simply this: if you were a Prevent employee on £25k a year and you had the choice of following up on a bunch of harmless young lads who want to be like Andrew Tate and will run to their mummies as soon as someone tells them they can’t, or a bunch of machete-wielding lunatics who think British people are scum who deserve to die for refusing to revere the Prophet, which would you choose?
Last edited 1 year ago by John Riordan
John Riordan
1 year ago
It’s obviously moronic and frustrating, but the reality is simply this: if you were a Prevent employee on £25k a year and you had the choice of following up on a bunch of harmless young lads who want to be like Andrew Tate and will run to their mummies as soon as someone tells them they can’t, or a bunch of machete-wielding lunatics who think British people are scum who deserve to die for refusing to revere the Prophet, which would you choose?
Last edited 1 year ago by John Riordan
Malcolm Knott
1 year ago
I have read the Shawcross report in full. Prevent is hopelessly blinkered and compromised – infested with the sort of people who are terrified of being thought Islamophobic and think reading the Daily Mail is dangerous.
For me, the organisation’s silence over the Batley teacher still in hiding and its failure to condemn the thugs who drove him out (and the head teacher who failed to support him) was the last straw. The organisation’s funding should be withdrawn and the money diverted to police undercover operations.
Trigger warning: My proposals will mean keeping very close tabs on certain Imams, including some of those who are given access to prisons. If you have been harmed by this post you may find it helpful to lie down in a dark room for half an hour.
Malcolm Knott
1 year ago
I have read the Shawcross report in full. Prevent is hopelessly blinkered and compromised – infested with the sort of people who are terrified of being thought Islamophobic and think reading the Daily Mail is dangerous.
For me, the organisation’s silence over the Batley teacher still in hiding and its failure to condemn the thugs who drove him out (and the head teacher who failed to support him) was the last straw. The organisation’s funding should be withdrawn and the money diverted to police undercover operations.
Trigger warning: My proposals will mean keeping very close tabs on certain Imams, including some of those who are given access to prisons. If you have been harmed by this post you may find it helpful to lie down in a dark room for half an hour.
Emmanuel MARTIN
1 year ago
The infuriating tragedy of moderate conservative do-gooders like the author is how stupidly naive they are. The efforts against Andrew Tate are not “misguided”.
The reality is that the left stole the funding and public support of anti-terrorist program and steered them towards left-wing political activism.
Jihadi allies deflect anti-terrorist funding and use it to fund political repression against conservative people. They are nto miguided or idiots, they are just vile ennemies to be fought mercilessly.
Emmanuel MARTIN
1 year ago
The infuriating tragedy of moderate conservative do-gooders like the author is how stupidly naive they are. The efforts against Andrew Tate are not “misguided”.
The reality is that the left stole the funding and public support of anti-terrorist program and steered them towards left-wing political activism.
Jihadi allies deflect anti-terrorist funding and use it to fund political repression against conservative people. They are nto miguided or idiots, they are just vile ennemies to be fought mercilessly.
Matt Hindman
1 year ago
Bug or feature?
Matt Hindman
1 year ago
Bug or feature?
ben arnulfssen
1 year ago
Does no-one at Prevent want to admit things which are well-known in the Islamic world? Islam is profoundly intolerant and its sequestration of women, within the context of a polygamous society in which there is statistically an imbalance of males, who are taught from infancy that they are inherently superior results in a permanent supply of low-status men willing to commit violence against an external society they have no stake in and no tolerance for, given a degree of encouragement.
ben arnulfssen
1 year ago
Does no-one at Prevent want to admit things which are well-known in the Islamic world? Islam is profoundly intolerant and its sequestration of women, within the context of a polygamous society in which there is statistically an imbalance of males, who are taught from infancy that they are inherently superior results in a permanent supply of low-status men willing to commit violence against an external society they have no stake in and no tolerance for, given a degree of encouragement.
Ian Barton
1 year ago
I wonder if this situation simply reflects the fact that it would be easier for Prevent staff to sit at home on the sofa reading Twitter, than do any real investigation.
I wonder if this situation simply reflects the fact that it would be easier for Prevent staff to sit at home on the sofa reading Twitter, than do any real investigation.
Last edited 1 year ago by Ian Barton
Martin Bollis
1 year ago
An interesting article and further evidence of how far down the rabbit hole we are.
Martin Bollis
1 year ago
An interesting article and further evidence of how far down the rabbit hole we are.
Douglas McNeish
1 year ago
“to remain ideologically fair” does not seem to be a concern for Prevent, any more than it has for most of the media who define the meaning of words such as “terror.” The concept has been so ideologically geared up, that it applies to anyone bold enough to challenge radical leftist ideology, making its adherents feel “unsafe.”
Parents protesting children’s story hour by drag queens at the Tate were characterized by even the Telegraph as “right wing.”
Whatever the presumed mission of Prevent, it has, like so many government initiatives, been coopted by those intent on a radical transformation of society, and see it as a vehicle for weakening and targeting resistance.
Douglas McNeish
1 year ago
“to remain ideologically fair” does not seem to be a concern for Prevent, any more than it has for most of the media who define the meaning of words such as “terror.” The concept has been so ideologically geared up, that it applies to anyone bold enough to challenge radical leftist ideology, making its adherents feel “unsafe.”
Parents protesting children’s story hour by drag queens at the Tate were characterized by even the Telegraph as “right wing.”
Whatever the presumed mission of Prevent, it has, like so many government initiatives, been coopted by those intent on a radical transformation of society, and see it as a vehicle for weakening and targeting resistance.
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
I’m only surprised that he hasn’t been awarded a ToileTory ” Leife peerij”…. just the sort of self publicity obsessed oik that they love!
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
I’m only surprised that he hasn’t been awarded a ToileTory ” Leife peerij”…. just the sort of self publicity obsessed oik that they love!
Jonny Stud
1 year ago
I’ve always been surprised that we are constantly warned about the threat of the ‘far right’……and yet the evidence suggests they don’t really do a lot. Whilst the extinction rebellion types cause disruption and criminal damage with no focus on them, and jihadists murder MP’s and Priests in the street. Still, best throw more money at preventing all those neo-nazi’s throwing eggs and flour down the town hall, nothing to see here
Jonny Stud
1 year ago
I’ve always been surprised that we are constantly warned about the threat of the ‘far right’……and yet the evidence suggests they don’t really do a lot. Whilst the extinction rebellion types cause disruption and criminal damage with no focus on them, and jihadists murder MP’s and Priests in the street. Still, best throw more money at preventing all those neo-nazi’s throwing eggs and flour down the town hall, nothing to see here
Woman can now mean man.
Science can now mean conformist dogma.
Empirical evidence can now mean wonky computer model.
Mostly peaceful protest can now mean arsonist riot.
Violence can now mean hurty words.
Silence can now mean violence.
Religion of peace can now mean death cult.
Equity can now mean discrimination based on immutable characteristics.
And terrorist can now mean anyone who has a dissenting thought.
The pattern is clear. When reality conflicts with progressive beliefs, the progressive chooses to redefine words. And if that doesn’t work, they simply categorise words as problematic and coerce others to stop using them. We are being robbed of our ability to disagree and the range of thought is being diminished.
My personal favorite:
Freedom means do what we say or else you are an evil authoritarian.
“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.”
“But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.”
“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”
And now we add “Submission is safety” to the original manual.
You forgot: “Diversity is strength.”
You forgot: “Diversity is strength.”
Nice post
My personal favorite:
Freedom means do what we say or else you are an evil authoritarian.
“Don’t you see that the whole aim of Newspeak is to narrow the range of thought? In the end we shall make thoughtcrime literally impossible, because there will be no words in which to express it.”
“But if thought corrupts language, language can also corrupt thought.”
“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”
And now we add “Submission is safety” to the original manual.
Nice post
Woman can now mean man.
Science can now mean conformist dogma.
Empirical evidence can now mean wonky computer model.
Mostly peaceful protest can now mean arsonist riot.
Violence can now mean hurty words.
Silence can now mean violence.
Religion of peace can now mean death cult.
Equity can now mean discrimination based on immutable characteristics.
And terrorist can now mean anyone who has a dissenting thought.
The pattern is clear. When reality conflicts with progressive beliefs, the progressive chooses to redefine words. And if that doesn’t work, they simply categorise words as problematic and coerce others to stop using them. We are being robbed of our ability to disagree and the range of thought is being diminished.
“Shawcross’s only demand is that it returns to its core purpose: preventing the next Thomas Mair or Salman Abedi, not the next online shitposter or Andrew Tate”
Unfortunately, in so far as Prevent relies on the input of those whose ideological beliefs oblige them to look away from the individuals who present a real threat and instead seek to present a false equivalence between them and those who they ideologically disapprove of they will be unable to focus their energy on combatting the real threat.
Instead they will waste their time and concern on the millions who read the Daily Mail and the like.
…and taxpayer’s money advancing their ideological mission.
…and taxpayer’s money advancing their ideological mission.
“Shawcross’s only demand is that it returns to its core purpose: preventing the next Thomas Mair or Salman Abedi, not the next online shitposter or Andrew Tate”
Unfortunately, in so far as Prevent relies on the input of those whose ideological beliefs oblige them to look away from the individuals who present a real threat and instead seek to present a false equivalence between them and those who they ideologically disapprove of they will be unable to focus their energy on combatting the real threat.
Instead they will waste their time and concern on the millions who read the Daily Mail and the like.
After reading this (as well as other analysis of Prevent), it is pretty galling to claim that Prevent has an Islamophobia problem when most of the people who work under it try to avoid mentioning Islam or any of its more hardline tendencies as motivations for violent attacks. Yet they’re happy to look anywhere else it seems.
This shows just how far the modern left has gone off the rails, and it’s made worse by the fact they run all these groups and organisations. I mean, associating things like Brexit or having parents who read the Daily Mail as being red flags for right wing extremism is astounding when the former was voted for by a majority of the electorate and the latter is the second most popular newspaper in Britain. Heaven offend these people speak to most ordinary folk outside their social circles after a few drinks, they’ll faint when some of the views get expressed.
I also find it amusing in a way how systems like Prevent and the people who work for them treat Islamists and far right extremists. The former are more or less mollycoddled and treated as victims having been groomed by people who aren’t “real Muslims” and such. The latter however are often lambasted, condemned for all time as racist bigots, “must have got it from home”, need to be bombarded by ED&I courses and literature etc. I remember seeing one interactive example in recent years to try and counter far right extremism on social media where you were given a choice of sharing and liking a friends happy clappy, “we love everyone”’post or a stand up for Britain post or some such. If you select the latter this somehow escalates almost immediately into meeting the admin of that group for drinks which is laughable. Safe to say, these people don’t have a clue.
Sorry for the rant.
After reading this (as well as other analysis of Prevent), it is pretty galling to claim that Prevent has an Islamophobia problem when most of the people who work under it try to avoid mentioning Islam or any of its more hardline tendencies as motivations for violent attacks. Yet they’re happy to look anywhere else it seems.
This shows just how far the modern left has gone off the rails, and it’s made worse by the fact they run all these groups and organisations. I mean, associating things like Brexit or having parents who read the Daily Mail as being red flags for right wing extremism is astounding when the former was voted for by a majority of the electorate and the latter is the second most popular newspaper in Britain. Heaven offend these people speak to most ordinary folk outside their social circles after a few drinks, they’ll faint when some of the views get expressed.
I also find it amusing in a way how systems like Prevent and the people who work for them treat Islamists and far right extremists. The former are more or less mollycoddled and treated as victims having been groomed by people who aren’t “real Muslims” and such. The latter however are often lambasted, condemned for all time as racist bigots, “must have got it from home”, need to be bombarded by ED&I courses and literature etc. I remember seeing one interactive example in recent years to try and counter far right extremism on social media where you were given a choice of sharing and liking a friends happy clappy, “we love everyone”’post or a stand up for Britain post or some such. If you select the latter this somehow escalates almost immediately into meeting the admin of that group for drinks which is laughable. Safe to say, these people don’t have a clue.
Sorry for the rant.
It’s obviously moronic and frustrating, but the reality is simply this: if you were a Prevent employee on £25k a year and you had the choice of following up on a bunch of harmless young lads who want to be like Andrew Tate and will run to their mummies as soon as someone tells them they can’t, or a bunch of machete-wielding lunatics who think British people are scum who deserve to die for refusing to revere the Prophet, which would you choose?
It’s obviously moronic and frustrating, but the reality is simply this: if you were a Prevent employee on £25k a year and you had the choice of following up on a bunch of harmless young lads who want to be like Andrew Tate and will run to their mummies as soon as someone tells them they can’t, or a bunch of machete-wielding lunatics who think British people are scum who deserve to die for refusing to revere the Prophet, which would you choose?
I have read the Shawcross report in full. Prevent is hopelessly blinkered and compromised – infested with the sort of people who are terrified of being thought Islamophobic and think reading the Daily Mail is dangerous.
For me, the organisation’s silence over the Batley teacher still in hiding and its failure to condemn the thugs who drove him out (and the head teacher who failed to support him) was the last straw. The organisation’s funding should be withdrawn and the money diverted to police undercover operations.
Trigger warning: My proposals will mean keeping very close tabs on certain Imams, including some of those who are given access to prisons. If you have been harmed by this post you may find it helpful to lie down in a dark room for half an hour.
I have read the Shawcross report in full. Prevent is hopelessly blinkered and compromised – infested with the sort of people who are terrified of being thought Islamophobic and think reading the Daily Mail is dangerous.
For me, the organisation’s silence over the Batley teacher still in hiding and its failure to condemn the thugs who drove him out (and the head teacher who failed to support him) was the last straw. The organisation’s funding should be withdrawn and the money diverted to police undercover operations.
Trigger warning: My proposals will mean keeping very close tabs on certain Imams, including some of those who are given access to prisons. If you have been harmed by this post you may find it helpful to lie down in a dark room for half an hour.
The infuriating tragedy of moderate conservative do-gooders like the author is how stupidly naive they are. The efforts against Andrew Tate are not “misguided”.
The reality is that the left stole the funding and public support of anti-terrorist program and steered them towards left-wing political activism.
Jihadi allies deflect anti-terrorist funding and use it to fund political repression against conservative people. They are nto miguided or idiots, they are just vile ennemies to be fought mercilessly.
The infuriating tragedy of moderate conservative do-gooders like the author is how stupidly naive they are. The efforts against Andrew Tate are not “misguided”.
The reality is that the left stole the funding and public support of anti-terrorist program and steered them towards left-wing political activism.
Jihadi allies deflect anti-terrorist funding and use it to fund political repression against conservative people. They are nto miguided or idiots, they are just vile ennemies to be fought mercilessly.
Bug or feature?
Bug or feature?
Does no-one at Prevent want to admit things which are well-known in the Islamic world? Islam is profoundly intolerant and its sequestration of women, within the context of a polygamous society in which there is statistically an imbalance of males, who are taught from infancy that they are inherently superior results in a permanent supply of low-status men willing to commit violence against an external society they have no stake in and no tolerance for, given a degree of encouragement.
Does no-one at Prevent want to admit things which are well-known in the Islamic world? Islam is profoundly intolerant and its sequestration of women, within the context of a polygamous society in which there is statistically an imbalance of males, who are taught from infancy that they are inherently superior results in a permanent supply of low-status men willing to commit violence against an external society they have no stake in and no tolerance for, given a degree of encouragement.
I wonder if this situation simply reflects the fact that it would be easier for Prevent staff to sit at home on the sofa reading Twitter, than do any real investigation.
Who’s to say that isn’t what they actually do?
Who’s to say that isn’t what they actually do?
I wonder if this situation simply reflects the fact that it would be easier for Prevent staff to sit at home on the sofa reading Twitter, than do any real investigation.
An interesting article and further evidence of how far down the rabbit hole we are.
An interesting article and further evidence of how far down the rabbit hole we are.
“to remain ideologically fair” does not seem to be a concern for Prevent, any more than it has for most of the media who define the meaning of words such as “terror.” The concept has been so ideologically geared up, that it applies to anyone bold enough to challenge radical leftist ideology, making its adherents feel “unsafe.”
Parents protesting children’s story hour by drag queens at the Tate were characterized by even the Telegraph as “right wing.”
Whatever the presumed mission of Prevent, it has, like so many government initiatives, been coopted by those intent on a radical transformation of society, and see it as a vehicle for weakening and targeting resistance.
“to remain ideologically fair” does not seem to be a concern for Prevent, any more than it has for most of the media who define the meaning of words such as “terror.” The concept has been so ideologically geared up, that it applies to anyone bold enough to challenge radical leftist ideology, making its adherents feel “unsafe.”
Parents protesting children’s story hour by drag queens at the Tate were characterized by even the Telegraph as “right wing.”
Whatever the presumed mission of Prevent, it has, like so many government initiatives, been coopted by those intent on a radical transformation of society, and see it as a vehicle for weakening and targeting resistance.
I’m only surprised that he hasn’t been awarded a ToileTory ” Leife peerij”…. just the sort of self publicity obsessed oik that they love!
I’m only surprised that he hasn’t been awarded a ToileTory ” Leife peerij”…. just the sort of self publicity obsessed oik that they love!
I’ve always been surprised that we are constantly warned about the threat of the ‘far right’……and yet the evidence suggests they don’t really do a lot. Whilst the extinction rebellion types cause disruption and criminal damage with no focus on them, and jihadists murder MP’s and Priests in the street. Still, best throw more money at preventing all those neo-nazi’s throwing eggs and flour down the town hall, nothing to see here
I’ve always been surprised that we are constantly warned about the threat of the ‘far right’……and yet the evidence suggests they don’t really do a lot. Whilst the extinction rebellion types cause disruption and criminal damage with no focus on them, and jihadists murder MP’s and Priests in the street. Still, best throw more money at preventing all those neo-nazi’s throwing eggs and flour down the town hall, nothing to see here
True, but he is a dickhead though.
True, but he is a dickhead though.
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