I felt oddly cheerful last Friday evening as I trudged home through the snow, forsaken by public transport that had stopped running. The truth is that, like Slade or Morecambe and Wise, strikes bring back poignant memories of the Christmases of my youth. At the time, picket lines, power cuts and hysterical articles claiming democracy was about to collapse seemed like part of the natural order. But, of course, the strikes of the Seventies were not simply part of the natural order, any more than the relative quiescence of organised labour in the decades that followed. And, with strikes set to bring much of Britain to a standstill this winter, it is worth putting the sudden and noisy resurgence of working-class protest in historical context.
For almost a century, the question of how to deal with the working class was at the centre of British politics. This period stretched from 1884, when the Third Reform Act enfranchised a significant group of working-class men for the first time, until March 1985, when those miners who had stayed on strike for a year staged a last show of defiance by marching back to work behind their colliery bands. Of course, the working class mattered to the Labour Party (which became the dominant party on the Left after the First World War). The trade unions were the pillars of the Labour Party. Most of its voters were drawn from this class — as were, at least at first, a certain number of its MPs.
But in a more complicated way, the working class mattered to the Conservatives, partly because they needed to contain its power, but also because they needed to win at least some working-class votes if they were to form a government. And the fact that Britain was ruled by mainly Conservative governments for most of the 20th century shows how successful they were.
When did things change? The Labour Party under the leadership of Jim Callaghan from 1976 to 1980 was closer to the trade union movement than at any point before 1914. But, perhaps for this reason, it was troubled by the number of strikes — often ones that involved a breakdown of union power rather than its assertion. The Conservative Party under Margaret Thatcher’s leadership from 1975 still assumed that it was going to have to live with a large industrial working class; the party came to power in 1979 aiming to revive British industry, not destroy it. It also came to power with a surprisingly large working-class vote. Such voters had often voted Tory in earlier times in spite of being working-class (because they were deferential to those they imagined to be their social betters or because many voters, especially women, didn’t identify as working-class at all).
In 1979, however, some voted Tory because they were working-class. This was partly because they were voting against the various forms of pay restraint that the Labour government had practised (Thatcherite faith in monetarism meant that they were the first significant group of politicians since the Sixties who thought that government might simply absent itself from private-sector pay negotiations). The Tories also actively courted working-class voters in 1979 and for a couple of years afterwards. Watch Norman Tebbit (then Secretary of State for Employment) giving his “On yer bike” speech to the Tory Party conference in 1981. He is wearing a badge that says “CTU”: the initials stand for Conservative Trade Unionist.
Of course, the Tories wanted to reduce trade union power and, in particular, to break the National Union of Mineworkers. All Conservatives had wanted this for the whole of the 20th century. The desire was, in fact, particularly strong in the non-Thatcherite section of the party — it was, after all, Heath who had been destroyed by his confrontation with the NUM in 1974. However, the desire of the Tories to break the miners in 1979 was a bit like the desire of 16-year-old boys to sleep with Debbie Harry out of Blondie. They fantasised about it but did not think it likely to happen, or have any concrete plans to bring it about.
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SubscribeI like the distinction between virtuals and physicals. I’ve never heard that before.
Working class seems like outdated terminology today. Even union membership seems outdated. Many union members today, if not most, belong to public sector unions, whose members earn higher wages and pensions than private sector workers. Yet it’s the private sector that ultimately pays their salaries.
I think one of the issues impacting the west is fewer people working in businesses that generate wealth. Public sector workers like teachers, health care workers and police are all vital to society, but they are disconnected from economy. Their jobs are not directly dependent on economic growth and stability.
If society is dominated by public sector workers, it can be easy to lose focus on the importance of a robust economy. Maybe that’s why so many people do not oppose govt policies that punish the private sector, like shutting down the economy, or imposing restrictions on agricultural and energy production.
IDK. Just spitballing here. Maybe I’m wrong.
Not wrong. We focus so much on the hot issue of mass immigration and an 8m pop top up that we have lost sight of other massive labour market revolutions which also began in the social engineering Blair/EU years. We have an ever expanding white collar/grad technocracy which has extended its regulatory/bureaucratic reach so much that wealth creation is utterly suffocated. Lockdown also proved that this insulated privileged class do not care a jot about the grubby greedy private sector. They thought they could do without it too – just print the money!!! MMT!!! Total insanity – we are living through a Cost of MMT/Lock Crisis. At least that practice has been exposed as a lie. But the UK is fast heading toward East German style Statism (thanks a bunch Boris Johnson) and this divide is only going to get worse.
Completely agree. I wrote a mini rant on the inflation spiral article about how governments need to address the supply side to actually fix the cost of living issues but your post elucidates why that is not happening and likely won’t for some time.
We seem to have developed not just a political, but a cultural, apathy towards infrastructure. It’s almost as though people genuinely believe the line that money is actual wealth and the economy is just money. The integrated exchange of goods and services is wealth, money is the mechanism that allows this through abstraction.
Good point Andrew.Here in the UK no one seems to have addressed the issue of supply side economics.Liz Truss tried albeit with poor messaging and borrowing money for tax cuts but she was deposed and technocrat Hunt popped up from nowhere to run our country and impose more austerity.We have the lowest degree of robotisation here because we are junkies for cheap unskilled labour.Furthermore we have 5 million workers on out of work benefits.
Good point Andrew.Here in the UK no one seems to have addressed the issue of supply side economics.Liz Truss tried albeit with poor messaging and borrowing money for tax cuts but she was deposed and technocrat Hunt popped up from nowhere to run our country and impose more austerity.We have the lowest degree of robotisation here because we are junkies for cheap unskilled labour.Furthermore we have 5 million workers on out of work benefits.
Wales is an example of a country where a disproportiionate number of taxpayers work in the public sector. There’s not much actual wealth creation. It’s the old story of earning a precarious living by taking in one another’s washing. The devolved Welsh government is composed largely of people who have never worked in private sector. Mark Drakeford is typical….
Spot on Jim.
We also have a whole class who will tell you they’ve worked in the private sector when all they’ve done is work in the bureaucracy on government contracts through recruitment agencies.
Not wrong. We focus so much on the hot issue of mass immigration and an 8m pop top up that we have lost sight of other massive labour market revolutions which also began in the social engineering Blair/EU years. We have an ever expanding white collar/grad technocracy which has extended its regulatory/bureaucratic reach so much that wealth creation is utterly suffocated. Lockdown also proved that this insulated privileged class do not care a jot about the grubby greedy private sector. They thought they could do without it too – just print the money!!! MMT!!! Total insanity – we are living through a Cost of MMT/Lock Crisis. At least that practice has been exposed as a lie. But the UK is fast heading toward East German style Statism (thanks a bunch Boris Johnson) and this divide is only going to get worse.
Completely agree. I wrote a mini rant on the inflation spiral article about how governments need to address the supply side to actually fix the cost of living issues but your post elucidates why that is not happening and likely won’t for some time.
We seem to have developed not just a political, but a cultural, apathy towards infrastructure. It’s almost as though people genuinely believe the line that money is actual wealth and the economy is just money. The integrated exchange of goods and services is wealth, money is the mechanism that allows this through abstraction.
Wales is an example of a country where a disproportiionate number of taxpayers work in the public sector. There’s not much actual wealth creation. It’s the old story of earning a precarious living by taking in one another’s washing. The devolved Welsh government is composed largely of people who have never worked in private sector. Mark Drakeford is typical….
Spot on Jim.
We also have a whole class who will tell you they’ve worked in the private sector when all they’ve done is work in the bureaucracy on government contracts through recruitment agencies.
I like the distinction between virtuals and physicals. I’ve never heard that before.
Working class seems like outdated terminology today. Even union membership seems outdated. Many union members today, if not most, belong to public sector unions, whose members earn higher wages and pensions than private sector workers. Yet it’s the private sector that ultimately pays their salaries.
I think one of the issues impacting the west is fewer people working in businesses that generate wealth. Public sector workers like teachers, health care workers and police are all vital to society, but they are disconnected from economy. Their jobs are not directly dependent on economic growth and stability.
If society is dominated by public sector workers, it can be easy to lose focus on the importance of a robust economy. Maybe that’s why so many people do not oppose govt policies that punish the private sector, like shutting down the economy, or imposing restrictions on agricultural and energy production.
IDK. Just spitballing here. Maybe I’m wrong.
A couple of sloppy false assumptions in this article. The 1970s headlines predicting the end of democracy are only ‘hysterical’ in hindsight. Communism was a very real global force and a motivator for some of those orchestrating the picket lines and power cuts. Societal breakdown and authoritarian government were an unlikely, but still real, prospect.
The notion that working class people voted Conservative only out of deference to their social betters is ludicrous. My mum and dad were a textile factory worker and bus driver. They, and people like them, voted Conservative for a variety of reasons, perhaps because they were patriotic, or aspirational, or concerned with freedom. The author’s analysis belongs in the 1970s and should be left there.
I agree. As a young person growing up in the 60s/70s, the analysis just seemed too simplistic. Yet, these are the recent history tropes being fed to young people now. No wonder their view of our history, both recent and longer-term, is skewed. Academic advancement must have been just as dependent on hitting the right-on notes in the late 20th century as it is now.
Indeed. I often suspect that the universal hatred of Thatcher among middle class leftists like this writer is due to the fact that her’s was the last government to provide any real benefit to working class people. Being able to buy their home changed my parents’ lives massively for the better.
We should never forget that it was a Labour Chancellor who changed the way that inflation is calculated in order to conceal the disastrous impact of his policies on the blue collar class.
Exactly my thoughts, he has an old socialist’s misunderstanding of why the working class voted Tory, and his analysis belongs in the distant past, like his allusion to lusting after Debbie Harry – which I shared, but which is hardly designed to appeal to female readers.
I agree. As a young person growing up in the 60s/70s, the analysis just seemed too simplistic. Yet, these are the recent history tropes being fed to young people now. No wonder their view of our history, both recent and longer-term, is skewed. Academic advancement must have been just as dependent on hitting the right-on notes in the late 20th century as it is now.
Indeed. I often suspect that the universal hatred of Thatcher among middle class leftists like this writer is due to the fact that her’s was the last government to provide any real benefit to working class people. Being able to buy their home changed my parents’ lives massively for the better.
We should never forget that it was a Labour Chancellor who changed the way that inflation is calculated in order to conceal the disastrous impact of his policies on the blue collar class.
Exactly my thoughts, he has an old socialist’s misunderstanding of why the working class voted Tory, and his analysis belongs in the distant past, like his allusion to lusting after Debbie Harry – which I shared, but which is hardly designed to appeal to female readers.
A couple of sloppy false assumptions in this article. The 1970s headlines predicting the end of democracy are only ‘hysterical’ in hindsight. Communism was a very real global force and a motivator for some of those orchestrating the picket lines and power cuts. Societal breakdown and authoritarian government were an unlikely, but still real, prospect.
The notion that working class people voted Conservative only out of deference to their social betters is ludicrous. My mum and dad were a textile factory worker and bus driver. They, and people like them, voted Conservative for a variety of reasons, perhaps because they were patriotic, or aspirational, or concerned with freedom. The author’s analysis belongs in the 1970s and should be left there.
Trust an academic to suggest that those members of the working class who voted Tory did so ‘because they were deferential to those they imagined to be their social betters.’ An alternative explanation is that they had no time for socialism.
A friend of mine is a very posh left wing prof.I’m a working class scroat with a very good education and I’m now middle class.My friend also believes that the working classes are naturally deferential to their ‘betters’.He’s wrong of course.Working class people are naturally patriotic and conservative with a small c.
A friend of mine is a very posh left wing prof.I’m a working class scroat with a very good education and I’m now middle class.My friend also believes that the working classes are naturally deferential to their ‘betters’.He’s wrong of course.Working class people are naturally patriotic and conservative with a small c.
Trust an academic to suggest that those members of the working class who voted Tory did so ‘because they were deferential to those they imagined to be their social betters.’ An alternative explanation is that they had no time for socialism.
How can anyone who can write this
“Such voters had often voted Tory in earlier times in spite of being working-class (because they were deferential to those they imagined to be their social betters ….”
occupy an academic position at a university?
Yes, full-on “false consciousness” narrative. Funny how the working class is supposed to follow its ‘class interest’ as defined by dialectical materialism, but the middle-class, who should be enthusiastically capitalist by the same impersonal force, are perfectly free to make an individual choice and become ‘progressive’.
Progressivism is driven by class interest too.
Getting the working poor to fight each other over race and gender is the perfect way to divert them from demanding an end to the globalist policies that are pauperising them.
Quite so.
Quite so.
Progressivism is driven by class interest too.
Getting the working poor to fight each other over race and gender is the perfect way to divert them from demanding an end to the globalist policies that are pauperising them.
Yes, full-on “false consciousness” narrative. Funny how the working class is supposed to follow its ‘class interest’ as defined by dialectical materialism, but the middle-class, who should be enthusiastically capitalist by the same impersonal force, are perfectly free to make an individual choice and become ‘progressive’.
How can anyone who can write this
“Such voters had often voted Tory in earlier times in spite of being working-class (because they were deferential to those they imagined to be their social betters ….”
occupy an academic position at a university?
Yet another privileged middle class academic with no experience of the real world, let alone the working class, expatiating with unshakeable confidence about the proletariat he knows nowt about. Forgive me if I take this book-learned bias with a bucket of salt. Rule number one: never underestimate the ordinary working people of this country; and never try to second-guess them.
Yes. The snobbery is breathtaking, isn’t it.
Yes. The snobbery is breathtaking, isn’t it.
Yet another privileged middle class academic with no experience of the real world, let alone the working class, expatiating with unshakeable confidence about the proletariat he knows nowt about. Forgive me if I take this book-learned bias with a bucket of salt. Rule number one: never underestimate the ordinary working people of this country; and never try to second-guess them.
Scargill took the miners into a strike without a national ballot. That meant that it lacked validity and unity. It is one reason why the strike failed and it is often forgotten.
Scargill took the miners into a strike without a national ballot. That meant that it lacked validity and unity. It is one reason why the strike failed and it is often forgotten.
Some questionable assertions here. Firstly, many working class people were not and are not socialist but believe in competition, enterprise, private ownership and the monarchy. Secondly, by the end of the 70s many working class people were sick and tired of the trades unions and the closed shop that held them hostage to organisations that no longer represented their interests. Thirdly, Thatcher knew that a confrontation with the miners would come: yes she backed off against Gormley because she wasn’t ready, but although Scargill’s timing and tactics were poor one of the main reasons for this was that, learning from Heath’s defeat, coal stocks and policing had been well organised by the government.
In the seventies, Felixstowe docks operated a closed shop:well-paid jobs but only open to friends and relatives of those already employed. ‘Things falling of the back of lorries’ was considered a perk of the job. The workers did not strike when workers employed at other docks throughout the country did. Felixstowe is now the busiest container port in England.
My father called BR in the eighties to ask how my brother could get a job driving trains; my (pilot) brother loved (still loves) train.
“Oh” (imagine mellifluous welsh accent) “are you on the railways?”
No
“Any family?”
No
“Oh, not much chance then”.
Strong unions inevitably resulted in members controlling recruitment.
Strong unions inevitably resulted in members controlling recruitment.
… and hardly anyone works there.
Do you mean very few workers are employed by Felixstowe docks, or that those who work there do very little work?
Do you mean very few workers are employed by Felixstowe docks, or that those who work there do very little work?
They still held sway in the north even into the nineties – as a factory manager in the north I had to make some workers redundant – inevitably men as the union managed to avoid women getting into the highly paid machining jobs.
It was last-in-first-out, so I had to explain to some young men, who were far far better workers than the older men who knew they would never lose their jobs, that they had to go. I hated doing it and told them so, but they totally understood the Union ‘rule’ and expressed no bitterness about it. In fact they were perplexed at my upset about having to do it this way.
My father called BR in the eighties to ask how my brother could get a job driving trains; my (pilot) brother loved (still loves) train.
“Oh” (imagine mellifluous welsh accent) “are you on the railways?”
No
“Any family?”
No
“Oh, not much chance then”.
… and hardly anyone works there.
They still held sway in the north even into the nineties – as a factory manager in the north I had to make some workers redundant – inevitably men as the union managed to avoid women getting into the highly paid machining jobs.
It was last-in-first-out, so I had to explain to some young men, who were far far better workers than the older men who knew they would never lose their jobs, that they had to go. I hated doing it and told them so, but they totally understood the Union ‘rule’ and expressed no bitterness about it. In fact they were perplexed at my upset about having to do it this way.
Is it not aelf evident that the militants of today exist across and within the vast white collar public sector or Blob? We have coordinated strikes within the NHS, teachers and Border Force – whose union is taking the govt to court to oppose the will of parliament on illegal migration. Why are we so scared to acknowledge the new post covid reality of life in the UK; a politically partisan active pro EU anti Brexit civil service is running amok. It is picking off the Brex awkward squad one by one. The seniors got Johnson; the juniors target Priti Suella and Raab – funny how every single Brexiteer is a criminal or ‘bully’. Enough naivety. A bitter civil war burns on with Tory/Brex hatred embedded in all public sector unions. The idea of a united ‘government’ is nonsensical. Lockdown saw the public sector divorce itself from the interests of the private sector, wealth creation and the nation at large. They got fat and greedy with all the authoritarian power they accrued in the emergency. We are hopelessly divided and these strikes will hopefully wake the public up. Self interest & leftist credos are leading the public sector to war on us.
Yes.
Yes.
In the seventies, Felixstowe docks operated a closed shop:well-paid jobs but only open to friends and relatives of those already employed. ‘Things falling of the back of lorries’ was considered a perk of the job. The workers did not strike when workers employed at other docks throughout the country did. Felixstowe is now the busiest container port in England.
Is it not aelf evident that the militants of today exist across and within the vast white collar public sector or Blob? We have coordinated strikes within the NHS, teachers and Border Force – whose union is taking the govt to court to oppose the will of parliament on illegal migration. Why are we so scared to acknowledge the new post covid reality of life in the UK; a politically partisan active pro EU anti Brexit civil service is running amok. It is picking off the Brex awkward squad one by one. The seniors got Johnson; the juniors target Priti Suella and Raab – funny how every single Brexiteer is a criminal or ‘bully’. Enough naivety. A bitter civil war burns on with Tory/Brex hatred embedded in all public sector unions. The idea of a united ‘government’ is nonsensical. Lockdown saw the public sector divorce itself from the interests of the private sector, wealth creation and the nation at large. They got fat and greedy with all the authoritarian power they accrued in the emergency. We are hopelessly divided and these strikes will hopefully wake the public up. Self interest & leftist credos are leading the public sector to war on us.
Some questionable assertions here. Firstly, many working class people were not and are not socialist but believe in competition, enterprise, private ownership and the monarchy. Secondly, by the end of the 70s many working class people were sick and tired of the trades unions and the closed shop that held them hostage to organisations that no longer represented their interests. Thirdly, Thatcher knew that a confrontation with the miners would come: yes she backed off against Gormley because she wasn’t ready, but although Scargill’s timing and tactics were poor one of the main reasons for this was that, learning from Heath’s defeat, coal stocks and policing had been well organised by the government.
The strike which I found the most amazing was the New Zealand dock workers went on strike in WWII when the American armada had arrived to fight the Japanese. They would not unload the ships. This amazed the USA military – who just ran them off the docks and used the gear to do it themselves.
”At the height of World War I, in February 1915, workers in munitions factories on the Clyde had walked out, with industrial unrest spreading to factories in Sheffield and Birmingham.”
”Later in the year, 15,000 Clyde shipyard workers went on strike again in protest at the compulsory deduction of rent arrears from their pay packets.”
”In 1943, workers at a factory in London making tail-fins for Halifax bombers went on strike and more than 16,000 women and some men walked out of the Rolls-Royce factory in Glasgow — where they should have been making engines for fighter planes.”
‘‘During the rest of the war, there were strikes all across the country — in engineering factories, the coal mines, aircraft manufacturers, shipyards, and by bus drivers and conductors.”
”Another key area of industrial unrest was the docks. In December 1943, 1,000 dockers went on strike in Middlesbrough and 1944 was considered to be an annus horribilis in terms of strike action, with lightning walk-outs in many ports at full stretch preparing for the invasion of Europe.”
The Australian dock workers had major strikes during WWII, making the war effort worse wile they were part of it.
and now when things are a mess and all need to be belt tightening, well they stop the holiday, and the NHS..
Although in WWII it was Communist directed unions, as in the rest through the 1980s, but now – I think just the leadership still are enemies of the nation in their heads just out of blind anti-British tradition.
If those companies were making large profits during the war (which they would have been) why shouldn’t the workers have seen their wages rise accordingly, especially as it was them producing the equipment that was being sold? If Rolls Royce were selling their products for no profit to help the war effort then you may have an argument but I can guarantee you they weren’t.
Why should private companies be able to make record profits while their workers are left destitute?
“Why should private companies be able to make record profits while their workers are left destitute?”
This has always been the argument. The question to follow up on is whether increases in wages create inflation.
If wages are keeping pace then why is inflation a problem, especially if the whole world is experiencing it at similar levels?
I don’t know. That’s why I raised the question.
I don’t know about the war time issues and why any potential profits did not result in higher wages but one reason that inflation would have been a serious problem is that Britain would have found buying goods from the US very expensive and catastrophic. Secondly, it would effectively force up interest rates on the money HM Government needed to borrow to fund the war. An inflationary crisis could have led to defeat.
I don’t know about the war time issues and why any potential profits did not result in higher wages but one reason that inflation would have been a serious problem is that Britain would have found buying goods from the US very expensive and catastrophic. Secondly, it would effectively force up interest rates on the money HM Government needed to borrow to fund the war. An inflationary crisis could have led to defeat.
I don’t know. That’s why I raised the question.
If wages are keeping pace then why is inflation a problem, especially if the whole world is experiencing it at similar levels?
During the First World War the mine owners were profiteering but cut the wages of miners.Let’s not forget the large sums made by people in the know during covid.
Do you have any evidence at all that the companies involved in war production during WWII were making large profits?
“Why should private companies be able to make record profits while their workers are left destitute?”
This has always been the argument. The question to follow up on is whether increases in wages create inflation.
During the First World War the mine owners were profiteering but cut the wages of miners.Let’s not forget the large sums made by people in the know during covid.
Do you have any evidence at all that the companies involved in war production during WWII were making large profits?
What makes you think that this disruption isn’t part of a wider Communist movement? (I’d like to say neo-Communist, but this seems part of the old playbook.) We have a group of avowedly Marxist organisations – BLM, JSO, Stonewall, unions – coming together to undermine Western society: see Greta Thunberg’s support for Edinburgh students blocking the showing of a film about womanhood. Why? Is this just coincidence? In the topical words of Kevin McCallister, “I don’t think so”.
One serious weakness in capitalism is the formation of monopolies or cartels, only then can firms guarantee large profits for long periods.
However, this isn’t such a bad thing if those profits arise from innovation. For example, the profits earned by the developers of the Spitfire would seem deserved. Should the fitters who were building the planes share in the cleverness of the entrepreneurs?
Of course they should. Without their expertise in making the parts then the spitfire simply remains a drawing on a piece of paper
Of course they should. Without their expertise in making the parts then the spitfire simply remains a drawing on a piece of paper
I would say that any jolly old World War is great fun for the ruling class and hell for young men, workers, and ordinary people. And the ruling class in our day is the educated class. What fun they have had ruling us for the last century!
WW1 devastated the upper and middle class because officers were expected to be first over the top.
A genuine question; was England better or worse off as a result?
I expect the subsequent dearth of middle and upper class men available for management roles opened up opportunities for the working class men. Every cloud….
I expect the subsequent dearth of middle and upper class men available for management roles opened up opportunities for the working class men. Every cloud….
A genuine question; was England better or worse off as a result?
WW1 devastated the upper and middle class because officers were expected to be first over the top.
If those companies were making large profits during the war (which they would have been) why shouldn’t the workers have seen their wages rise accordingly, especially as it was them producing the equipment that was being sold? If Rolls Royce were selling their products for no profit to help the war effort then you may have an argument but I can guarantee you they weren’t.
Why should private companies be able to make record profits while their workers are left destitute?
What makes you think that this disruption isn’t part of a wider Communist movement? (I’d like to say neo-Communist, but this seems part of the old playbook.) We have a group of avowedly Marxist organisations – BLM, JSO, Stonewall, unions – coming together to undermine Western society: see Greta Thunberg’s support for Edinburgh students blocking the showing of a film about womanhood. Why? Is this just coincidence? In the topical words of Kevin McCallister, “I don’t think so”.
One serious weakness in capitalism is the formation of monopolies or cartels, only then can firms guarantee large profits for long periods.
However, this isn’t such a bad thing if those profits arise from innovation. For example, the profits earned by the developers of the Spitfire would seem deserved. Should the fitters who were building the planes share in the cleverness of the entrepreneurs?
I would say that any jolly old World War is great fun for the ruling class and hell for young men, workers, and ordinary people. And the ruling class in our day is the educated class. What fun they have had ruling us for the last century!
The strike which I found the most amazing was the New Zealand dock workers went on strike in WWII when the American armada had arrived to fight the Japanese. They would not unload the ships. This amazed the USA military – who just ran them off the docks and used the gear to do it themselves.
”At the height of World War I, in February 1915, workers in munitions factories on the Clyde had walked out, with industrial unrest spreading to factories in Sheffield and Birmingham.”
”Later in the year, 15,000 Clyde shipyard workers went on strike again in protest at the compulsory deduction of rent arrears from their pay packets.”
”In 1943, workers at a factory in London making tail-fins for Halifax bombers went on strike and more than 16,000 women and some men walked out of the Rolls-Royce factory in Glasgow — where they should have been making engines for fighter planes.”
‘‘During the rest of the war, there were strikes all across the country — in engineering factories, the coal mines, aircraft manufacturers, shipyards, and by bus drivers and conductors.”
”Another key area of industrial unrest was the docks. In December 1943, 1,000 dockers went on strike in Middlesbrough and 1944 was considered to be an annus horribilis in terms of strike action, with lightning walk-outs in many ports at full stretch preparing for the invasion of Europe.”
The Australian dock workers had major strikes during WWII, making the war effort worse wile they were part of it.
and now when things are a mess and all need to be belt tightening, well they stop the holiday, and the NHS..
Although in WWII it was Communist directed unions, as in the rest through the 1980s, but now – I think just the leadership still are enemies of the nation in their heads just out of blind anti-British tradition.
“But in a more complicated way, the working class mattered to the Conservatives, partly because they needed to contain its power, but also because they needed to win at least some working-class votes if they were to form a government. And the fact that Britain was ruled by mainly Conservative governments for most of the 20th century shows how successful they were.”
Not, perhaps, because they might have cared that working people had decent opportunities, even if they would go about achieving this situation in a different way to Labour?
It seems an easy claim to make that Labour were for the workers and the Tories for the wealthy. Given that millions of working people voted Tory, were they not voting in their own self-interest?
Forgive me, I really need to read the whole article but this paragraph struck very strongly. It seems to caricature the Right in a very tired way.
Cross my heart and hope to die but I have the idea that there were probably similar numbers of Tories who wanted the best for ordinary British people as Labour people. Am I deluded and, if so, why do they keep winning so many elections?
Dear God.
“Such voters had often voted Tory in earlier times in spite of being working-class (because they were deferential to those they imagined to be their social betters or because many voters, especially women, didn’t identify as working-class at all).”
Clearly the writer considers the working classes of twentieth century Britain to be a bit twp (one of the few Welsh words I know but it means simple, dim).
I don’t think I’ll bother with this. Hopefully, the comments might be interesting.
Comments have been much more enlightening than the article, which is what I love about Unherd.
I assume you pronounce twp phonetically – unlike, it appears to me, most words in Welsh.
Something between tup and top
Something between tup and top
Comments have been much more enlightening than the article, which is what I love about Unherd.
I assume you pronounce twp phonetically – unlike, it appears to me, most words in Welsh.
Dear God.
“Such voters had often voted Tory in earlier times in spite of being working-class (because they were deferential to those they imagined to be their social betters or because many voters, especially women, didn’t identify as working-class at all).”
Clearly the writer considers the working classes of twentieth century Britain to be a bit twp (one of the few Welsh words I know but it means simple, dim).
I don’t think I’ll bother with this. Hopefully, the comments might be interesting.
“But in a more complicated way, the working class mattered to the Conservatives, partly because they needed to contain its power, but also because they needed to win at least some working-class votes if they were to form a government. And the fact that Britain was ruled by mainly Conservative governments for most of the 20th century shows how successful they were.”
Not, perhaps, because they might have cared that working people had decent opportunities, even if they would go about achieving this situation in a different way to Labour?
It seems an easy claim to make that Labour were for the workers and the Tories for the wealthy. Given that millions of working people voted Tory, were they not voting in their own self-interest?
Forgive me, I really need to read the whole article but this paragraph struck very strongly. It seems to caricature the Right in a very tired way.
Cross my heart and hope to die but I have the idea that there were probably similar numbers of Tories who wanted the best for ordinary British people as Labour people. Am I deluded and, if so, why do they keep winning so many elections?
I suspect that there is another factor in play too. At one time you wanted a ‘job for life’ and feared unemployment. Nowadays many jobs are interchangeable. Within certain limits a desk job is a desk job anywhere. A sales clerk is a sales clerk anywhere. And if you have a particular skill set you can become self employed as a plumber or electrician.
Perhaps people are choosing employment conditions with their feet rather than going on strike?
When I got my first job as a government scientist in the eighties, emigrating from an economically depressed Scotland, I was over the moon. I’d come from a jobs for life culture in Central Scotland, and I was sorted now.
But moving down south I was impressed by the southern English culture of trading your skills as a marketable commodity by changing jobs when it suited you. It took me 5 years of boring science work, but I finally managed to wrench myself away from this job for life attitude, and never regretted it.
My civil service colleagues thought I was nuts – trying to convince me, at the age of 26, that it was worth staying in this job forevermore because of its pension!!
When I got my first job as a government scientist in the eighties, emigrating from an economically depressed Scotland, I was over the moon. I’d come from a jobs for life culture in Central Scotland, and I was sorted now.
But moving down south I was impressed by the southern English culture of trading your skills as a marketable commodity by changing jobs when it suited you. It took me 5 years of boring science work, but I finally managed to wrench myself away from this job for life attitude, and never regretted it.
My civil service colleagues thought I was nuts – trying to convince me, at the age of 26, that it was worth staying in this job forevermore because of its pension!!
I suspect that there is another factor in play too. At one time you wanted a ‘job for life’ and feared unemployment. Nowadays many jobs are interchangeable. Within certain limits a desk job is a desk job anywhere. A sales clerk is a sales clerk anywhere. And if you have a particular skill set you can become self employed as a plumber or electrician.
Perhaps people are choosing employment conditions with their feet rather than going on strike?
A large proportion of those striking are not working class. They are relatively well paid public sector apparatchiks. The actual working class aren’t in unions, don’t go on strike, and work large portions of their year to pay the ungrateful shits currently on strike.
A large proportion of those striking are not working class. They are relatively well paid public sector apparatchiks. The actual working class aren’t in unions, don’t go on strike, and work large portions of their year to pay the ungrateful shits currently on strike.
“Anyone who can do their job from their bedroom will have shown their employer that their job can be done by someone much cheaper in Chennai or Manila.”
Lazy thinking. A gross over-simplification which only holds if there is someone with the required skills and experience in Chennai or Manila. The more complex and higher value the job, the less likely that is. Case in point: my son showed me a YouTube video this morning about software programmers in Silicon Valley being paid record amounts (well over $1m a year). The fact that you can find people with the same apparenty job title cheaper elsewhere means nothing if you need and can pay for the best.
Yeah that was a very old fashioned piece of industrial analysis. Reshoring of even relatively straightforward call centre jobs to the U.K. has been going on for over 10 years now.
Yeah that was a very old fashioned piece of industrial analysis. Reshoring of even relatively straightforward call centre jobs to the U.K. has been going on for over 10 years now.
“Anyone who can do their job from their bedroom will have shown their employer that their job can be done by someone much cheaper in Chennai or Manila.”
Lazy thinking. A gross over-simplification which only holds if there is someone with the required skills and experience in Chennai or Manila. The more complex and higher value the job, the less likely that is. Case in point: my son showed me a YouTube video this morning about software programmers in Silicon Valley being paid record amounts (well over $1m a year). The fact that you can find people with the same apparenty job title cheaper elsewhere means nothing if you need and can pay for the best.
In our age we are ruled by an educated class that imagines it rules for the benefit of the oppressed against the oppressors.
Thus, your Marxes, your Webbs, your Asquiths, your Lloyd Georges, your Attlees, your Wilsons, your Callaghans were all for the working class. Yay!
But I think the working class would have done a lot better if the ruling class had indulged in a lot fewer wars. Up through World War I the rulers would feature “resumption” of the Gold Standard after their war — i.e., deflation. Workers hated that. Then, of course, after World War II the rulers adopted permanent inflation. Workers hate that too.
Who really cares about the workers? That’s what I’d like to know.
Well, the Webbs thought the best thing for the poor would be sterilisation. Still, I suppose that’s an improvement on GBS’ idea of just slaughtering them en masse. Progressivism has always been more about control than equality, hence the divide and rule ideologies now being promoted throughout the education system.
Well, the Webbs thought the best thing for the poor would be sterilisation. Still, I suppose that’s an improvement on GBS’ idea of just slaughtering them en masse. Progressivism has always been more about control than equality, hence the divide and rule ideologies now being promoted throughout the education system.
In our age we are ruled by an educated class that imagines it rules for the benefit of the oppressed against the oppressors.
Thus, your Marxes, your Webbs, your Asquiths, your Lloyd Georges, your Attlees, your Wilsons, your Callaghans were all for the working class. Yay!
But I think the working class would have done a lot better if the ruling class had indulged in a lot fewer wars. Up through World War I the rulers would feature “resumption” of the Gold Standard after their war — i.e., deflation. Workers hated that. Then, of course, after World War II the rulers adopted permanent inflation. Workers hate that too.
Who really cares about the workers? That’s what I’d like to know.
“Working class” is as outdated a notion as “serfs”
“Working class” is as outdated a notion as “serfs”
Thank you, Richard, for placing “property ladder” in quotation marks, where it definitely belongs. I can’t think of a single other person to do this – even Brendan O’Neill appears to think it’s a real phenomenon.
Thank you, Richard, for placing “property ladder” in quotation marks, where it definitely belongs. I can’t think of a single other person to do this – even Brendan O’Neill appears to think it’s a real phenomenon.
This article misses the point. Nurses have been going on strike for the last two years by leaving the profession. Much of the working class have already decided years ago that working and paying tax does not match living off benefits and working casually for cash. Many professions such as lorry driving and those in construction are either lacking workers or recruiting immigrants because British people have decided that the pay is not good enough. As taxes rise, this phenomenon will spread into many middle-class professions. People will simply decide that it is not worth working or repaying the student loan or going for a promotion. Our economy will become lethargic and stagnate. Our elite will fail to fund the spending commitments required to keep rioters off the street. One way or another change is coming.
I was a victim of Thatcher’s privatization back in the 1980s whilst working as a Civil Servant for the MoD….she ruined the service!
How? Were you so important?
Did Thatcher actually privatise the MoD ? As far as I’m aware, only Qinetiq was privatised (from DERA) in 2001 – 10 years later under New Labour. That and some of the MoD housing. Not quite sure which events you’re referring to – please do add some details.
And she won the wars – in the Falklands, against the USSR, and at home against the unions.
How? Were you so important?
Did Thatcher actually privatise the MoD ? As far as I’m aware, only Qinetiq was privatised (from DERA) in 2001 – 10 years later under New Labour. That and some of the MoD housing. Not quite sure which events you’re referring to – please do add some details.
And she won the wars – in the Falklands, against the USSR, and at home against the unions.
I was a victim of Thatcher’s privatization back in the 1980s whilst working as a Civil Servant for the MoD….she ruined the service!