Late on Tuesday night, I was sitting on a bus back to Manchester city centre from Salford Quays, where I had just watched La Traviata at The Lowry theatre. I was the sole passenger on the top deck, except for one young guy in a hoodie sitting a few seats in front of me. He turned out to be an opera singer, studying at the prestigious Royal Northern College of Music. He leaned over to chat because he had heard me interviewing people after the show about the prospect of the English National Opera moving north — and wanted to give me his own views.
It probably wouldn’t work, he said. The audience for opera is in London. I told him I disagreed. We had both just witnessed first-hand a large and enthusiastic audience for opera in Greater Manchester, after all. Not only could the move work, but it would also be a great thing for the UK to have a leading company operating out of one of its most central and fast-growing cities. Allied with Opera North, whose production we had just watched and who tour the entire region from Leeds, it would make this part of the country a global opera powerhouse.
By the time I got off the bus, my companion was telling me how a Manchester ENO would allow talented musicians like him to stay in the North after graduating, rather than feeling forced to move to London, or overseas. “I’m just surprised that you are the only person making the argument,” he said.
The reason nobody has heard the case for a Manchester ENO is that the media coverage of this important arts story has been laughably, atrociously London-centric. “English National Opera fights ‘absurd’ plan to relocate to Manchester,” ran the headline of a story on the BBC. It quoted the ENO’s chief executive Stuart Murphy calling the move “insane” but didn’t counter his analysis with a single northern voice.
Several newspaper reports accepted, apparently without fact-checking, Murphy’s comparison of London’s “9 million people” with “Manchester’s half a million”. It seems neither the reporters nor the editors on those papers could see the mistake the ENO chief was making, although it seems that Northern readers pointed out the problem to the Guardian. The paper has removed Murphy’s misleading quote and replaced it with “a more accurate comparison between the greater metropolitan populations of London and Manchester”. (The population of Greater Manchester is almost 3 million.)
The ignorance didn’t end there. The Observer’s classical music critic Fiona Maddocks said the ENO plans “certainly make no sense” because Manchester is already “well served” by Opera North — a company that is based in Leeds and usually only comes to Salford for one week every year. Maddocks, perhaps, was straying a little outside her area of expertise: the Observer’s classical desk, as one of my readers emailed me this week, “pretty much exclusively writes about things staged in London”. The reader went on to point out that whereas Opera North’s headquarters, at Leeds’ Howard Assembly Room, are an hour and a half’s drive from central Manchester, “the ENO is about six minutes’ walk away from the Royal Opera House, so who is best served?”
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SubscribeWow, bravo Joshi Herrmann! When I was at Sussex in the 70s, I was astonished that every single southern pal had never visited the North. I arranged a convoy to see David Bowie (Aladdin Sane) at Preston Guild Hall in 1973.
London was a great place to visit then, and we spent many weekends ambling around and buying Biba-label baked beans for our cupboards. Now I find it can be oppressive and overcrowded, and the tube is grim.
My professional fees (and those of most people) go to a London office, run by Londoners, and that money largely stays in the South. As you correctly point out, London is not the nation, and I would hazard a guess that there are still plenty of Southerners who have never visited a Northern town or city.
I’d say that’d be a very good guess. When I worked in London in the 1990s, as a N Irish bloke who had studied in York and worked in Birmingham, it amazed me that so many very widely-travelled London area / home counties English people had never ventured North in their own country.
But nobody thought this was odd. In fact, they actually boasted about never having been North – obligatory quips about “needing a passport above Watford” etc.
This metropolitan bias is true of all countries. I remember reading a stat about Dublin a few years ago which revealed that a staggering 96% of all new jobs in Ireland were based in Dublin. During covid lockdown, the “plight” of the baristas in Dublin city centre was mentioned in the Irish parliament – yet rural Irish towns in border areas have been in decline for many years, and it’s not on any radar. And you should hear how, after a few drinks, New Yorkers talk about people from rural US states …
Did they enjoy the concert Jane? (I’m from Preston and know the Guild Hall well.)
It was brilliant. Back in the day when big names played the smaller venues. Saw Roxy Music there the day after they had been on Old Grey Whistle Test, Eno in feathers, the works. Saw Queen supporting 10cc at a pub in Liverpool about the same time.
It was brilliant. Back in the day when big names played the smaller venues. Saw Roxy Music there the day after they had been on Old Grey Whistle Test, Eno in feathers, the works. Saw Queen supporting 10cc at a pub in Liverpool about the same time.
I live about 60 miles north of Manchester and I’m 70 years old, I’ve visited the place about 3 times in my life. I know quite a number of people from my area who have never been there. They seem to manage OK.
Many folk in Somerset have never been to London.
“Why would I want to go there?” is the usual response. And given the state of the city now, understandable.
Many folk in Somerset have never been to London.
“Why would I want to go there?” is the usual response. And given the state of the city now, understandable.
I’d say that’d be a very good guess. When I worked in London in the 1990s, as a N Irish bloke who had studied in York and worked in Birmingham, it amazed me that so many very widely-travelled London area / home counties English people had never ventured North in their own country.
But nobody thought this was odd. In fact, they actually boasted about never having been North – obligatory quips about “needing a passport above Watford” etc.
This metropolitan bias is true of all countries. I remember reading a stat about Dublin a few years ago which revealed that a staggering 96% of all new jobs in Ireland were based in Dublin. During covid lockdown, the “plight” of the baristas in Dublin city centre was mentioned in the Irish parliament – yet rural Irish towns in border areas have been in decline for many years, and it’s not on any radar. And you should hear how, after a few drinks, New Yorkers talk about people from rural US states …
Did they enjoy the concert Jane? (I’m from Preston and know the Guild Hall well.)
I live about 60 miles north of Manchester and I’m 70 years old, I’ve visited the place about 3 times in my life. I know quite a number of people from my area who have never been there. They seem to manage OK.
Wow, bravo Joshi Herrmann! When I was at Sussex in the 70s, I was astonished that every single southern pal had never visited the North. I arranged a convoy to see David Bowie (Aladdin Sane) at Preston Guild Hall in 1973.
London was a great place to visit then, and we spent many weekends ambling around and buying Biba-label baked beans for our cupboards. Now I find it can be oppressive and overcrowded, and the tube is grim.
My professional fees (and those of most people) go to a London office, run by Londoners, and that money largely stays in the South. As you correctly point out, London is not the nation, and I would hazard a guess that there are still plenty of Southerners who have never visited a Northern town or city.
This is good as far as it goes, but the author is only partly correct both in identifying the problem and suggesting a solution. More regional reporters would be a fine thing, but what has been missing from journalism for more than a generation is depth and breadth of experience that used to come from training on local newspapers.
I should declare here that I’m a product of just such training, and although I was not cut out for reporting and moved into the production side as a sub-editor pretty much as soon as I was able, I nevertheless had nearly four years of indentured apprenticeship which gave me first-hand experience of local government from parish to county council, and court reporting from local magistrates’ to crown court.
I started that training aged 18, in 1986. How many of Unherd’s writers don’t have degrees? Or have a background in reporting, rather than commentary?
The author’s own title, The Mill, may be a fine platform, but I see it offers long-form writing. Great for a career as a pundit, but not so good for reporting on grassroots issues.
The decline of the local press has been going on for decades. My hometown paper, which paid for my training, closed months after I joined the staff. Those days are never coming back, so what should be the modern equivalent? Because it’s not The Mill, nor for that matter, Unherd – great though it is.
Well said MDH 0. Like you, I came through the provincial indentures route, before 15 years at one of those “Fleet Street of the North” newspaper offices in Manchester mentioned in the piece above. We spent a good part of our working time there repelling the London-centric news agenda of our London office. It was a constant battle that we won to a fair extent – but which of course is not fought at any level now.
The other big loss from the death of newspapers in the Provinces is of course the effect on local democracy. Really shocking.
Not sure what a “grassroots issue: is. Granted the Mill doesn’t do a lot of what the local REACH press does: murder, traffic accidents, Corrie stars’ lovelives, football etc, but it does seem to have carved itself a niche with its long-form reporting on local politics, social issues and arts stuff. In a city the size of Manchester there are enough people who’ll pay for well-written and researched niche stuff that they can’t get anywhere else, as the Mill’s subscriber base shows.
I’d add that the larger local newspapers do struggle on – the Manchester Evening News and The Yorkshire Post spring to mind as ‘real’ regional newspapers.
Well said MDH 0. Like you, I came through the provincial indentures route, before 15 years at one of those “Fleet Street of the North” newspaper offices in Manchester mentioned in the piece above. We spent a good part of our working time there repelling the London-centric news agenda of our London office. It was a constant battle that we won to a fair extent – but which of course is not fought at any level now.
The other big loss from the death of newspapers in the Provinces is of course the effect on local democracy. Really shocking.
Not sure what a “grassroots issue: is. Granted the Mill doesn’t do a lot of what the local REACH press does: murder, traffic accidents, Corrie stars’ lovelives, football etc, but it does seem to have carved itself a niche with its long-form reporting on local politics, social issues and arts stuff. In a city the size of Manchester there are enough people who’ll pay for well-written and researched niche stuff that they can’t get anywhere else, as the Mill’s subscriber base shows.
I’d add that the larger local newspapers do struggle on – the Manchester Evening News and The Yorkshire Post spring to mind as ‘real’ regional newspapers.
This is good as far as it goes, but the author is only partly correct both in identifying the problem and suggesting a solution. More regional reporters would be a fine thing, but what has been missing from journalism for more than a generation is depth and breadth of experience that used to come from training on local newspapers.
I should declare here that I’m a product of just such training, and although I was not cut out for reporting and moved into the production side as a sub-editor pretty much as soon as I was able, I nevertheless had nearly four years of indentured apprenticeship which gave me first-hand experience of local government from parish to county council, and court reporting from local magistrates’ to crown court.
I started that training aged 18, in 1986. How many of Unherd’s writers don’t have degrees? Or have a background in reporting, rather than commentary?
The author’s own title, The Mill, may be a fine platform, but I see it offers long-form writing. Great for a career as a pundit, but not so good for reporting on grassroots issues.
The decline of the local press has been going on for decades. My hometown paper, which paid for my training, closed months after I joined the staff. Those days are never coming back, so what should be the modern equivalent? Because it’s not The Mill, nor for that matter, Unherd – great though it is.
I spent the first 30 years of my life in London with only the most cursory and infrequent forays up north. But having spent the rest of my life based in the north, and Manchester is the south for me, I am aware of the excessive focus on London and the south in the MSM generally which greatly diminishes my interest in its obsessions. If the conservatives want to hang on to their red wall gains it might be worth their establishing a well staffed conservative office that is based up north so that many of the metropolitan obsessions of London-centric thinking are squeezed out of the party.
I spent the first 30 years of my life in London with only the most cursory and infrequent forays up north. But having spent the rest of my life based in the north, and Manchester is the south for me, I am aware of the excessive focus on London and the south in the MSM generally which greatly diminishes my interest in its obsessions. If the conservatives want to hang on to their red wall gains it might be worth their establishing a well staffed conservative office that is based up north so that many of the metropolitan obsessions of London-centric thinking are squeezed out of the party.
Personel is policy
True in Twitter, true in administration, true in legal matters, true in the FBI, true in journalism
Eexcellent article on aimportant, ismple and overlooked topic.
Spot on!
Spot on!
Personel is policy
True in Twitter, true in administration, true in legal matters, true in the FBI, true in journalism
Eexcellent article on aimportant, ismple and overlooked topic.
I know the feeling. I live in a stunning coastal town in Southwest Florida. You should hear what the sophisticates in filthy, crime-ridden Manhattan say about us. Incidentally, that “journalist from a national newspaper” is a he or she, not a “they”. Capitulating to nonsensical “social” fads in grammar ruins an otherwise good piece.
Allison, many people choose to be referred to as “they”, regrettably so. I should say it’s becoming rather common usage, certainly in the media. To suggest that it “ruins” a good piece is a little OTT 🙂
I understood “they” in this context as supporting the anonymity requested by the reporter.
Allison, many people choose to be referred to as “they”, regrettably so. I should say it’s becoming rather common usage, certainly in the media. To suggest that it “ruins” a good piece is a little OTT 🙂
I understood “they” in this context as supporting the anonymity requested by the reporter.
I know the feeling. I live in a stunning coastal town in Southwest Florida. You should hear what the sophisticates in filthy, crime-ridden Manhattan say about us. Incidentally, that “journalist from a national newspaper” is a he or she, not a “they”. Capitulating to nonsensical “social” fads in grammar ruins an otherwise good piece.
It sounds bleak oop north! But actually, as a resident in Greater Manchester and having been born here, i wouldn’t swap it for (anywhere in the rest of) the world. My student days were in London, and i enjoy visiting our capital but hsppy to return home. And actually, i don’t recognise Joshi’s depiction of the Manchester-Leeds train service. Yes, there’s a strike on at the moment so services will get cancelled, but not when i use the Manchester-Leeds line which is working pretty well in my experience. 23 cancelled services a day? No. Making a case based on an exaggeration isn’t a good idea.
There is, of course, something to be said for his points regarding London-centricity. My preferred solution would be for national bodies such as the ENO to do the simpler thing by visiting more often than the drastic step of relocation. There may be plenty of opera fans among the 3 million local residents, but would they attend often enough to enable the ENO to continue to thrive? More research is needed on such matters, rather than an emotive “we’re so hard done by” story. And there’s nothing worse than a northerner with a chip on his or her shoulder, especially one covered in gravy.
Well said, us southern ‘softies’ haven’t a clue really.
I am pleased Steve is happy with the transport here in the North. Where can I start? We had the Pacer trains, bus bodies on wheels for 30 years longer than we should. The M60 was dug up for years and at the end of it is as congested as before they started. We had a perfectly good service to London with Virgin but the civil servants were determined to remove it. This was stopped initially by a judicial review but that did not hold them back and they succeeded eventually and gave us the s***show that is Avanti. Avanti thought they would get a 10 year contract which has been reduced to 6 months to see if they can improve which tells you all you need to know. I note that Crossrail and the Elizabeth line was completed before the money ran out so now they are cutting proposed changes to scheduled improvements in the North. HS2 has been reduced and if it reaches beyond Birmingham there will be a star in the East. Is that enough?
Try living in the South West, where public transport is largely conceptual. Regardless, we happily pay our taxes for HS2 and endless London public transport projects. We are not worthy.
Try living in the South West, where public transport is largely conceptual. Regardless, we happily pay our taxes for HS2 and endless London public transport projects. We are not worthy.
Well said, us southern ‘softies’ haven’t a clue really.
I am pleased Steve is happy with the transport here in the North. Where can I start? We had the Pacer trains, bus bodies on wheels for 30 years longer than we should. The M60 was dug up for years and at the end of it is as congested as before they started. We had a perfectly good service to London with Virgin but the civil servants were determined to remove it. This was stopped initially by a judicial review but that did not hold them back and they succeeded eventually and gave us the s***show that is Avanti. Avanti thought they would get a 10 year contract which has been reduced to 6 months to see if they can improve which tells you all you need to know. I note that Crossrail and the Elizabeth line was completed before the money ran out so now they are cutting proposed changes to scheduled improvements in the North. HS2 has been reduced and if it reaches beyond Birmingham there will be a star in the East. Is that enough?
It sounds bleak oop north! But actually, as a resident in Greater Manchester and having been born here, i wouldn’t swap it for (anywhere in the rest of) the world. My student days were in London, and i enjoy visiting our capital but hsppy to return home. And actually, i don’t recognise Joshi’s depiction of the Manchester-Leeds train service. Yes, there’s a strike on at the moment so services will get cancelled, but not when i use the Manchester-Leeds line which is working pretty well in my experience. 23 cancelled services a day? No. Making a case based on an exaggeration isn’t a good idea.
There is, of course, something to be said for his points regarding London-centricity. My preferred solution would be for national bodies such as the ENO to do the simpler thing by visiting more often than the drastic step of relocation. There may be plenty of opera fans among the 3 million local residents, but would they attend often enough to enable the ENO to continue to thrive? More research is needed on such matters, rather than an emotive “we’re so hard done by” story. And there’s nothing worse than a northerner with a chip on his or her shoulder, especially one covered in gravy.
Moving the ENO to Manchester is absurd not because Manchester shouldn’t have a resident opera company but because it is robbing Peter to pay Paul. The ENO does a wonderful job in London which has comparatively fews opera companies by international standards. The right solution would be to fund a new opera company based in Manchester.
Moving the ENO to Manchester is absurd not because Manchester shouldn’t have a resident opera company but because it is robbing Peter to pay Paul. The ENO does a wonderful job in London which has comparatively fews opera companies by international standards. The right solution would be to fund a new opera company based in Manchester.
While it certainly has its downsides, following a football team away from home will get you to the north. I very much doubt I would have gone to Doncaster, Hartlepool, Macclesfield, Tranmere, Carlisle and other exotic locales without following Bournemouth away from home in my twenties. The downside is that you have to have an iron constitution for beer, watch some terrible football and surround yourself with barbarians. But you do see England. I honestly think there’d be a greater sense of Britishness if we didn’t have (largely) separate divisional pyramids for all the nations.
If you didn’t have regional leagues, all the Celtic leagues would disappear.
If you didn’t have regional leagues, all the Celtic leagues would disappear.
While it certainly has its downsides, following a football team away from home will get you to the north. I very much doubt I would have gone to Doncaster, Hartlepool, Macclesfield, Tranmere, Carlisle and other exotic locales without following Bournemouth away from home in my twenties. The downside is that you have to have an iron constitution for beer, watch some terrible football and surround yourself with barbarians. But you do see England. I honestly think there’d be a greater sense of Britishness if we didn’t have (largely) separate divisional pyramids for all the nations.
It’s not just the media in this country that confines itself to London and resides in a cosy, leafy enclave with mostly upper class white liberals, and then pretends to represent all of England.
It’s not just the media in this country that confines itself to London and resides in a cosy, leafy enclave with mostly upper class white liberals, and then pretends to represent all of England.
Well, the dear old Manchester Guardian that I was brought up on in my childhood near Stockport, read by my classic Liberal parents, certainly went down the pan when it moved to the fleshpots of London. Finished off by the insufferably smug Rusbridger, it’s now unrecognisable, and seems to be inhabited by hysterics masquerading as “journalists”.
Well, the dear old Manchester Guardian that I was brought up on in my childhood near Stockport, read by my classic Liberal parents, certainly went down the pan when it moved to the fleshpots of London. Finished off by the insufferably smug Rusbridger, it’s now unrecognisable, and seems to be inhabited by hysterics masquerading as “journalists”.
As a northerner who grew up midway between Manchester and Leeds but who has lived in London most of my life, I’m a bit conflicted. However, fundamentally I do think moving the ENO is a bad idea, and that you don’t have to be hugely London-centric to think so.
Aside from the problem that the ENO has hundreds of staff members who might not all relish the idea of uprooting their lives and families to move to Manchester, I do think the Opera North thing is an issue. The Pennines aren’t an impregnable wall, and people do cross them for stuff like nights out, gigs, shopping and shows. In my experience the audience for the great cultural institutions in that area – Opera North, Leeds playhouse, the Royal Exchange, the Lowry – is basically the same set of people. It seems that this was the point that the chap this journalist met on a bus was making.
Also, the fact is that not only are the ENO and Opera North opera companies but they are both mid-priced, English language opera companies who turn out a mix of the traditional operatic repertoire and more crowd-pleasing light opera/shows. I’d be surprised if Opera North is delighted by this turn of events to be honest.
Finally – unpopular opinion alert – based on my own experience, from both growing up and from my friends in the north now, the audience for “high art” just is smaller proportional to population in the North compared to London. I’m in my 30s and have plenty of friends in middle class jobs in Leeds and Manchester and they just don’t go to the theatre/classical music performances in the way that people from a similar social background living in London do. They go to gigs, to pubs, to high end restaurants, but in my experience there is just not the same appetite for “high culture” in Yorkshire/Manchester. Not that there is no audience for that stuff, but it is smaller.
Also comparing the population of Manchester to Greater London is misleading, but I’m not sure that comparing the populations of Greater Manchester and Greater London isn’t equally misleading. Places like Wigan and Stalybridge are a 45 minute train ride to central Manchester (not to mention a world away for many residents, albeit I guess not the ones who are debating the ENO’s move). The radius of places that can get to central London in 45 mins by train is far wider than Greater London and takes in much of Hertfordshire, Essex, Kent, Sussex etc.
Also – forgot to say that Opera North’s headquarters are – unsurprisingly – at the Howard Opera Centre. Not the Howard Assembly Room, as the author suggests (the Howard Assembly Room is a pop/jazz venue run by Opera North). Given that (it appears) the author himself hasn’t actually seen an opera from his region’s flagship opera company, I’m not sure why he’s so confident the region needs another one!
Also – forgot to say that Opera North’s headquarters are – unsurprisingly – at the Howard Opera Centre. Not the Howard Assembly Room, as the author suggests (the Howard Assembly Room is a pop/jazz venue run by Opera North). Given that (it appears) the author himself hasn’t actually seen an opera from his region’s flagship opera company, I’m not sure why he’s so confident the region needs another one!
As a northerner who grew up midway between Manchester and Leeds but who has lived in London most of my life, I’m a bit conflicted. However, fundamentally I do think moving the ENO is a bad idea, and that you don’t have to be hugely London-centric to think so.
Aside from the problem that the ENO has hundreds of staff members who might not all relish the idea of uprooting their lives and families to move to Manchester, I do think the Opera North thing is an issue. The Pennines aren’t an impregnable wall, and people do cross them for stuff like nights out, gigs, shopping and shows. In my experience the audience for the great cultural institutions in that area – Opera North, Leeds playhouse, the Royal Exchange, the Lowry – is basically the same set of people. It seems that this was the point that the chap this journalist met on a bus was making.
Also, the fact is that not only are the ENO and Opera North opera companies but they are both mid-priced, English language opera companies who turn out a mix of the traditional operatic repertoire and more crowd-pleasing light opera/shows. I’d be surprised if Opera North is delighted by this turn of events to be honest.
Finally – unpopular opinion alert – based on my own experience, from both growing up and from my friends in the north now, the audience for “high art” just is smaller proportional to population in the North compared to London. I’m in my 30s and have plenty of friends in middle class jobs in Leeds and Manchester and they just don’t go to the theatre/classical music performances in the way that people from a similar social background living in London do. They go to gigs, to pubs, to high end restaurants, but in my experience there is just not the same appetite for “high culture” in Yorkshire/Manchester. Not that there is no audience for that stuff, but it is smaller.
Also comparing the population of Manchester to Greater London is misleading, but I’m not sure that comparing the populations of Greater Manchester and Greater London isn’t equally misleading. Places like Wigan and Stalybridge are a 45 minute train ride to central Manchester (not to mention a world away for many residents, albeit I guess not the ones who are debating the ENO’s move). The radius of places that can get to central London in 45 mins by train is far wider than Greater London and takes in much of Hertfordshire, Essex, Kent, Sussex etc.
It should be mandatory for every Londoner to spend at least a year up north to broaden their horizons and gain some empathy as I and many others did in their studying years. It is the only way to break the Capital’s groupthink.
It should be mandatory for every Londoner to spend at least a year up north to broaden their horizons and gain some empathy as I and many others did in their studying years. It is the only way to break the Capital’s groupthink.
excellent piece!
excellent piece!
It is far too expensive now to employ reporters on the ground so ‘the news’ is what happens on Twitter and what happens on Twitter is largely determined in a fairly small part of North London.
It is far too expensive now to employ reporters on the ground so ‘the news’ is what happens on Twitter and what happens on Twitter is largely determined in a fairly small part of North London.
This is all well and good but clearly it is ridiculous to have the ENO in Manchester.
It should be in Birmingham, where there is a world class venue for it, in the middle of the country.
Bristol, where this former Cheshire lad lived for 25 years was served opera no by the ENO, but the WNO. And very good they were as well. Lucky enough to have seen a young Bryn Terfel as Falstaff there, and many fine performances. The much maligned Ruth Berghaus production of Don Giovanni there the first opera I aver saw (and the audience all sorts – some in evening dress, fair play and I in my Grateful Dead t-shirt) and absolutely knocked me out.
London messes institutions up now it seems to me.
Bristol, where this former Cheshire lad lived for 25 years was served opera no by the ENO, but the WNO. And very good they were as well. Lucky enough to have seen a young Bryn Terfel as Falstaff there, and many fine performances. The much maligned Ruth Berghaus production of Don Giovanni there the first opera I aver saw (and the audience all sorts – some in evening dress, fair play and I in my Grateful Dead t-shirt) and absolutely knocked me out.
London messes institutions up now it seems to me.
This is all well and good but clearly it is ridiculous to have the ENO in Manchester.
It should be in Birmingham, where there is a world class venue for it, in the middle of the country.
as Rupert Murdoch famously said ” Britain’s class system will never die as long as people reinforce their own view of where they sit in it, by what newspaper they buy every day”… He also said, and so true for Britain’s ruling lower middles ” Britons are driven, ruled and obsessed by their opinion, of other peoples opinion, of them”…Yea verrily Amen…!!!
as Rupert Murdoch famously said ” Britain’s class system will never die as long as people reinforce their own view of where they sit in it, by what newspaper they buy every day”… He also said, and so true for Britain’s ruling lower middles ” Britons are driven, ruled and obsessed by their opinion, of other peoples opinion, of them”…Yea verrily Amen…!!!
The point is people in Manchester travelling to London might well be able to combine their opera visit with some other activity whereas the opposite case is a great deal less likely.
I can see why it would have been easier, for practical reasons, to base national institutions in London before everything went virtual, but there’s really no coherent excuse nowadays. Compared to other regions, the amount of money pumped into the capital is obscene, which in turn self-perpetuates the notion of the “provinces” being grim and impoverished.
And if you think the media ignores Manchester, spare a thought for poor Birmingham (the UK’s second city), generally only ever mention in mocking reference to the local accent (not that the London vernacular is itself particularly mellifluous).
It’s an ancient bone of contention reflected IN the media rather than being caused BY it (since the War of the Roses?): inflamed by London’s walloping international profile. Yes, having a global city is requires investment and upkeep: but the ENO being in either London or Manchester probably won’t irk all that many foreign visitors; even less so the more mundane national institutions and bodies that ought to pack up and venture forth beyond the M25.
Yes because there is absolutely nothing else to do in Manchester or its environs. Ridiculous but at least you have outed yourself as a southern snob of the worst type. Bravo!
I can see why it would have been easier, for practical reasons, to base national institutions in London before everything went virtual, but there’s really no coherent excuse nowadays. Compared to other regions, the amount of money pumped into the capital is obscene, which in turn self-perpetuates the notion of the “provinces” being grim and impoverished.
And if you think the media ignores Manchester, spare a thought for poor Birmingham (the UK’s second city), generally only ever mention in mocking reference to the local accent (not that the London vernacular is itself particularly mellifluous).
It’s an ancient bone of contention reflected IN the media rather than being caused BY it (since the War of the Roses?): inflamed by London’s walloping international profile. Yes, having a global city is requires investment and upkeep: but the ENO being in either London or Manchester probably won’t irk all that many foreign visitors; even less so the more mundane national institutions and bodies that ought to pack up and venture forth beyond the M25.
Yes because there is absolutely nothing else to do in Manchester or its environs. Ridiculous but at least you have outed yourself as a southern snob of the worst type. Bravo!
The point is people in Manchester travelling to London might well be able to combine their opera visit with some other activity whereas the opposite case is a great deal less likely.