Just stunning to me that we can’t be frank about men abstaining from multiple male sex partners for a period to, you know, flatten the curve. The limits we placed on citizens from every walk of life to curtail Covid was extraordinary – babies masked, school cancelled, solitary deaths – we all have our story of sacrifice and yet our public health officials can’t see fit to tell gay men to modify their social lives. There are no longer serious people running anything anymore.
I believe the WHO stated that “superspreader event” Pride doesn’t need to be cancelled as it’s message is too important. More important than the Gay lives that will be impacted by monkey pox, apparently. Bit like when the BLM demos HAD to take place despite lockdown because the message was also too important. I can’t decide if it’s an important message or just a way for racist and homophobic officials to maximise damage but I’d be really suspicious if I was black or gay.
100% agreed. If people would stop sticking parts of their bodies into parts of other people’s bodies where they don’t belong many of these diseases would disappear.
polidori redux
1 year ago
Are we modelling again? I used to make models as a kid. Out of Airfix kits. The difference is that I didn’t run around claiming that my models could fly.
I occasionally got bored with a kit I’d made and threw it out of the window, and as you say, they really, really didn’t fly. No-one could claim that what they did was anything other than fall.
Last edited 1 year ago by Dominic S
Stuart Sutherland
1 year ago
When I think of virus modellers I think of professor Neil Ferguson of imperial college and his rather inaccurate and damaging models!
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
like weather forecasters, racing tipsters and stockbrokers all rolled into one…and all propelled by tha now gargantuan LBGT media machine…
Paige M
1 year ago
Changing the messaging would be worthwhile. Who came up with MSM? Aren’t gay men allowed to be gay men anymore? Well I guess it follows as I’m now a pregnant person.
I thought that MSM stood for Main Stream Media. I was a little perturbed at first – The thought of all the goings-on at The Telegraph offices. I nearly cancelled my subscription.
I’m guessing the middle word has something to do with Gomorrah.
Darrell Boone
1 year ago
Other than in Africa, how many deaths are attributable to Monkeypox so far this year? According to the WHO there have been about 2,000+ reported cases in 2022, but I can’t find a report of a death caused by Monkeypox anywhere outside of the locales where it is considered endemic (e.g., Congo).
Could it be that this virus is far less of a medical threat than is being widely portrayed? It seemingly is being held up by the press as the latest health-risk boogeyman in its persistent – often over-the-top – coverage, which is hyped and amplified via social media post-a-thons.
Last edited 1 year ago by Darrell Boone
Betsy Arehart
1 year ago
“they added that public messaging at the moment is not especially useful, since it doesn’t warn at-risk communities, tending to emphasise the risk to wider society rather than to MSM groups. Changing that would, they said, be worthwhile.” That means that “public messaging” is repeating what they messaged about Covid. The lie that we are all equally vulnerable, in this case, to spare the feelings of gay men.
I will never trust “public messaging” again. One day, the sky truly will be falling, and no one will believe them.
Last edited 1 year ago by Betsy Arehart
laurence scaduto
1 year ago
A famous philosopher/catcher once said “Predictions are hard, especially about the future.” Just seven words, no math. Genius!
Ian Stewart
1 year ago
Skin to skin contact for infection? It’s the revenge of the Incels!
Sage Vals
1 year ago
Many older people in the UK were given smallpox vaccine as children, and this will reduce infection. But as monkeypox is very rarely fatal and is easily treated, I don’t see what the fuss is.
Dominic S
1 year ago
98% of cases in men who have sexual activity with other men.
A tragic story that in the USA there are some 2 year old kids with it – who are ‘parented’ by male couples.
“fairly high amount of genetic drift” – Not particularly likely given it’s not a single strand RNA and is much more stable. There are strains however but the jump to aerosol is unlikely. Further, few people are likely to encounter visible lesions except in a sub-population where the lesions are foolishly ignored, or hidden in the a**s. And nearly all who were vaccinated against smallpox are not likely to be infected. Much ado over nothing for the typical person.
Eric Blair
1 year ago
Has monkey pox been around for a while, but because it’s easily mistaken for chickenpox, nobody has noticed?
Anyone know anything about prevalence of monkey pox antibodies in the population?
Nicky Samengo-Turner
1 year ago
Another lgbt National Socialist Trident prong of Goebbels like propoganda…
Just stunning to me that we can’t be frank about men abstaining from multiple male sex partners for a period to, you know, flatten the curve. The limits we placed on citizens from every walk of life to curtail Covid was extraordinary – babies masked, school cancelled, solitary deaths – we all have our story of sacrifice and yet our public health officials can’t see fit to tell gay men to modify their social lives. There are no longer serious people running anything anymore.
whats it done to their lives? rect’um…
I believe the WHO stated that “superspreader event” Pride doesn’t need to be cancelled as it’s message is too important. More important than the Gay lives that will be impacted by monkey pox, apparently. Bit like when the BLM demos HAD to take place despite lockdown because the message was also too important. I can’t decide if it’s an important message or just a way for racist and homophobic officials to maximise damage but I’d be really suspicious if I was black or gay.
The woke cannot help themselves.
100% agreed. If people would stop sticking parts of their bodies into parts of other people’s bodies where they don’t belong many of these diseases would disappear.
Are we modelling again? I used to make models as a kid. Out of Airfix kits. The difference is that I didn’t run around claiming that my models could fly.
I occasionally got bored with a kit I’d made and threw it out of the window, and as you say, they really, really didn’t fly. No-one could claim that what they did was anything other than fall.
When I think of virus modellers I think of professor Neil Ferguson of imperial college and his rather inaccurate and damaging models!
like weather forecasters, racing tipsters and stockbrokers all rolled into one…and all propelled by tha now gargantuan LBGT media machine…
Changing the messaging would be worthwhile. Who came up with MSM? Aren’t gay men allowed to be gay men anymore? Well I guess it follows as I’m now a pregnant person.
I thought that MSM stood for Main Stream Media. I was a little perturbed at first – The thought of all the goings-on at The Telegraph offices. I nearly cancelled my subscription.
Doesn’t it? I assumed it was just the usual journalistic self-absorption.
I believe MSM is used in order to avoid stigmatizing one particular sexual demographic.
Duh!!
I’m guessing the middle word has something to do with Gomorrah.
Other than in Africa, how many deaths are attributable to Monkeypox so far this year? According to the WHO there have been about 2,000+ reported cases in 2022, but I can’t find a report of a death caused by Monkeypox anywhere outside of the locales where it is considered endemic (e.g., Congo).
Could it be that this virus is far less of a medical threat than is being widely portrayed? It seemingly is being held up by the press as the latest health-risk boogeyman in its persistent – often over-the-top – coverage, which is hyped and amplified via social media post-a-thons.
“they added that public messaging at the moment is not especially useful, since it doesn’t warn at-risk communities, tending to emphasise the risk to wider society rather than to MSM groups. Changing that would, they said, be worthwhile.” That means that “public messaging” is repeating what they messaged about Covid. The lie that we are all equally vulnerable, in this case, to spare the feelings of gay men.
I will never trust “public messaging” again. One day, the sky truly will be falling, and no one will believe them.
A famous philosopher/catcher once said “Predictions are hard, especially about the future.” Just seven words, no math. Genius!
Skin to skin contact for infection? It’s the revenge of the Incels!
Many older people in the UK were given smallpox vaccine as children, and this will reduce infection. But as monkeypox is very rarely fatal and is easily treated, I don’t see what the fuss is.
98% of cases in men who have sexual activity with other men.
A tragic story that in the USA there are some 2 year old kids with it – who are ‘parented’ by male couples.
And??
Isolate 2 year olds
We did with Covid god forgive us
“fairly high amount of genetic drift” – Not particularly likely given it’s not a single strand RNA and is much more stable. There are strains however but the jump to aerosol is unlikely. Further, few people are likely to encounter visible lesions except in a sub-population where the lesions are foolishly ignored, or hidden in the a**s. And nearly all who were vaccinated against smallpox are not likely to be infected.
Much ado over nothing for the typical person.
Has monkey pox been around for a while, but because it’s easily mistaken for chickenpox, nobody has noticed?
Anyone know anything about prevalence of monkey pox antibodies in the population?
Another lgbt National Socialist Trident prong of Goebbels like propoganda…