I think Wiseman did a good job of capturing the local political landscape and JD Vance in this piece. I live and own a business in Northeast Ohio and come from a background not hugely different from that of Vance. He has a kind of ballsy intellect that sets him apart. He will take the primary, the more telling fight will be in the general.
Sam McGowan
2 years ago
J. D. Vance has something the other candidates don’t, a connection to the real voters in much of Ohio. I spent several years in that part of the country (NE Kentucky just across the Ohio River from Ohio). It is what sociologists would call working-class with a smattering of executives and professionals. If he wins, he’ll represent Ohio, not the Republican Party.
Vince B
2 years ago
I want JD Vance to win in Ohio. If it takes a Trump endorsment to put him in office, I’m fine with that. It is a marriage of convenience for Vance, I believe.
Steven Rubin
1 year ago
I am from Ohio and i couldn’t agree more woith Mr. Vance. Much of the elite class in this country no longer believe in it. They are parasites.
Kat L
2 years ago
I like him but he, like so many others, acts as if we were all perfectly united before the clever elites ‘divided’ us. The fact is we’ve always been divided, they have just succeeded mightily in exploiting it.
It’s true that we have always been divided but the range of cultural values present in society has expanded very dramatically in recent years, largely as a consequence of multiculturalism. This has been very damaging to social cohesion. Western societies have gradually become more culturally fragmented and we have less in common with each other than we used to. I think this makes people defensive and politicians play on that with increasingly partisan rhetoric.
I don’t think the current enormous polarisation in the US has much to do with ‘multiculturalism’. The US has a sui generis racial history with respect to its African American population, but the integration of other ethnic minorities has little to do with its current woes. It’s true however that Europe doesn’t have such a positive record.
I disagree. As the anglo population diminishes the other groups are aligning to go in for the kill. Once that is accomplished they will fight each other for what is left. When we were at 85% there was strife but society was essentially unchanged. Many immigrants came here for economics still, they held no grudge or disdain for the natives, but their descendants do. Others, like Trevor Noah and Ilhan Omar obtained citizenship and now spend their time attempting to undermine the culture. I admit that I may have a skewed opinion but this is what I observe. Multi culti is a fail and I fear we will pay dearly for it.
We have indeed but a good politician aims to bridge divisions or at least give a hand to the weaker party that needs it more. I pray JD has that goal in mind.
Cathy Carron
1 year ago
No doubt Peter Thiel called in a favor with Trump to support JD since he spoke at Trump’s nomination, and Thiel took JD aside for some learnin’ re: Supporting Trump. But that’s a good thing. JDVance is a very good candidate and no doubt he will be a great – a principled- senator. A rare bird indeed. His ideas and vision are what the country needs. He just required some financial support & mentoring. Trump & Thiel are seeing to this.
Andrew Fisher
1 year ago
The dilemma for the Republicans is that any Trump endorsements are catnip for the ‘base’ while being an active turn off for moderate opinion. This applies in spades to the man himself when it comes to 2024.
I voted for Hillary in 2016, the only time I didn’t vote Republican (for president). I did so in part because of the lies the press told but mostly because I found him morally unfit. Then I watched with horror how the democrats and their elite supporters dove to the far left.
I started reading congressional testimony and watching some of it too. I begin looking into Congress people from New York Washington state California etc. I was shocked. I started actively seeking and finding real journalist sources. Unherd, Barry Weiss‘s sub stack, Shallenberger, etc.
At this point I agree with Bill Bar, I would prefer Trump not run again. But if he were to get the nomination I would vote for him over any one the Democrat elite put up. They are clearly out of control and not at all they once were. They were once liberal they are now nihilist and illiberal. Also, I do not think the majority of Democrats really understand what their party’s elite actually believe and are doing.
The Republicans need to wake up and adapt, right now and JD Vance is a reasonably good start. I think he has his head straight but I don’t know if he can win the general election.
Vote Republican it is America’s only hope of surviving.
Jerry Carroll
1 year ago
The writer clearly does not like Vance. My guess is he is a RINO, the kind that after another loss on election day gets together with other losers at the country club to shake his head with a rueful grin. “We’ll get ’em next time, guys.” Mitt Romney is the prototype of these sorts in white gloves who are proud of their good manners when things don’t work out… again.
Anos Sullivan
1 year ago
It is imperative America wakes up and begins t throw off this idiocy called globalism. A notion without its own manufacturing and technological innovations is a failed nation.
Alan Groff
1 year ago
Trump reads people but gives no lasting synthesis. Vance connects that sense to ideas. Politics is transformed by narratives that rationally connect sense and intuition.
Francis MacGabhann
2 years ago
This is appallingly badly written, in my opinion. Like some kid in love with his own writing style. I’m learning all about the author, nothing about the subject.
It doesn’t seem to have a clear narrative, but I don’t know about badly written.
The author seems to be trying to avoid inserting too much of his own opinion, which I appreciate.
I think Wiseman did a good job of capturing the local political landscape and JD Vance in this piece. I live and own a business in Northeast Ohio and come from a background not hugely different from that of Vance. He has a kind of ballsy intellect that sets him apart. He will take the primary, the more telling fight will be in the general.
J. D. Vance has something the other candidates don’t, a connection to the real voters in much of Ohio. I spent several years in that part of the country (NE Kentucky just across the Ohio River from Ohio). It is what sociologists would call working-class with a smattering of executives and professionals. If he wins, he’ll represent Ohio, not the Republican Party.
I want JD Vance to win in Ohio. If it takes a Trump endorsment to put him in office, I’m fine with that. It is a marriage of convenience for Vance, I believe.
I am from Ohio and i couldn’t agree more woith Mr. Vance. Much of the elite class in this country no longer believe in it. They are parasites.
I like him but he, like so many others, acts as if we were all perfectly united before the clever elites ‘divided’ us. The fact is we’ve always been divided, they have just succeeded mightily in exploiting it.
It’s true that we have always been divided but the range of cultural values present in society has expanded very dramatically in recent years, largely as a consequence of multiculturalism. This has been very damaging to social cohesion. Western societies have gradually become more culturally fragmented and we have less in common with each other than we used to. I think this makes people defensive and politicians play on that with increasingly partisan rhetoric.
I don’t think the current enormous polarisation in the US has much to do with ‘multiculturalism’. The US has a sui generis racial history with respect to its African American population, but the integration of other ethnic minorities has little to do with its current woes. It’s true however that Europe doesn’t have such a positive record.
I disagree. As the anglo population diminishes the other groups are aligning to go in for the kill. Once that is accomplished they will fight each other for what is left. When we were at 85% there was strife but society was essentially unchanged. Many immigrants came here for economics still, they held no grudge or disdain for the natives, but their descendants do. Others, like Trevor Noah and Ilhan Omar obtained citizenship and now spend their time attempting to undermine the culture. I admit that I may have a skewed opinion but this is what I observe. Multi culti is a fail and I fear we will pay dearly for it.
It’s not just politicians. Politicians have little influence on everyday lives of ordinary Americans. Celebrities on the other hand…
We have indeed but a good politician aims to bridge divisions or at least give a hand to the weaker party that needs it more. I pray JD has that goal in mind.
No doubt Peter Thiel called in a favor with Trump to support JD since he spoke at Trump’s nomination, and Thiel took JD aside for some learnin’ re: Supporting Trump. But that’s a good thing. JDVance is a very good candidate and no doubt he will be a great – a principled- senator. A rare bird indeed. His ideas and vision are what the country needs. He just required some financial support & mentoring. Trump & Thiel are seeing to this.
The dilemma for the Republicans is that any Trump endorsements are catnip for the ‘base’ while being an active turn off for moderate opinion. This applies in spades to the man himself when it comes to 2024.
I voted for Hillary in 2016, the only time I didn’t vote Republican (for president). I did so in part because of the lies the press told but mostly because I found him morally unfit. Then I watched with horror how the democrats and their elite supporters dove to the far left.
I started reading congressional testimony and watching some of it too. I begin looking into Congress people from New York Washington state California etc. I was shocked. I started actively seeking and finding real journalist sources. Unherd, Barry Weiss‘s sub stack, Shallenberger, etc.
At this point I agree with Bill Bar, I would prefer Trump not run again. But if he were to get the nomination I would vote for him over any one the Democrat elite put up. They are clearly out of control and not at all they once were. They were once liberal they are now nihilist and illiberal. Also, I do not think the majority of Democrats really understand what their party’s elite actually believe and are doing.
The Republicans need to wake up and adapt, right now and JD Vance is a reasonably good start. I think he has his head straight but I don’t know if he can win the general election.
Vote Republican it is America’s only hope of surviving.
The writer clearly does not like Vance. My guess is he is a RINO, the kind that after another loss on election day gets together with other losers at the country club to shake his head with a rueful grin. “We’ll get ’em next time, guys.” Mitt Romney is the prototype of these sorts in white gloves who are proud of their good manners when things don’t work out… again.
It is imperative America wakes up and begins t throw off this idiocy called globalism. A notion without its own manufacturing and technological innovations is a failed nation.
Trump reads people but gives no lasting synthesis. Vance connects that sense to ideas. Politics is transformed by narratives that rationally connect sense and intuition.
This is appallingly badly written, in my opinion. Like some kid in love with his own writing style. I’m learning all about the author, nothing about the subject.
It doesn’t seem to have a clear narrative, but I don’t know about badly written.
The author seems to be trying to avoid inserting too much of his own opinion, which I appreciate.
Eh?