Wear a fur coat and get stuff thrown on you and disapproval from all sides.
Use coke and be thought edgy, cool, and classy. Although there is more suffering inflicted in the coke than the fur.
D Ward
2 years ago
“Is it OK for rich, right wing drug users to buy coke drenched in the bloodshed caused by prohibition?” Not really. So why are the liberals who purchase what’s marketed as “woke coke” getting all the flack?” Ffs
It’s quite simple – hypocrisy. In reality it makes f-all difference who buys the coke – still the same awful origins – but there’s hypocrisy if one side has been camping hard on the moral high ground, yet still takes part in unethical practices.
The overwhelming social narrative has been that liberals/left are good people who care about others whereas being right wing is selfish and evil.
Mark Gourley
2 years ago
I will stick to my supplier of choice – Waitrose’s wine department. So thank heavens no ethical dilemmas!
How about all the fish that make up the isinglass in wine?
Hardee Hodges
2 years ago
Until the various governments decide they will become the supplier and control production at the source the problem will exist. Users will never go away but government set pricing can ensure the illegal trade isn’t so profitable. The morality of use remains an issue no matter what. Many jobs will disappear but converted to the supply chain.
Wouldn’t government intervention have the opposite effect? They would manipulate all elements of the product to either maximise government revenue, or stop users buying the product, so a black market would rapidly emerge. Comparisons with alcohol and tobacco immediately spring to mind, and so does anything and everywhere where government tries to manipulate the relationship between suppliers and buyers. Shipbuilding, car use, railways, smaller chocolate bars, etcetc. In fact, I wonder if the growth in coke and weed use is because of the government making cigarettes expensive and unfashionable
I’m not suggesting a free market in cocaine. But, perhaps with light regulation as to quality and safety, it would lower the price of the drugs, bring the industry into the light, enable better control over quality, create tax revenues. And the users could, if they wanted, go to hell in a fragrant handcart, but at a cheaper cost than they do now.
Or the west could set up a task force to burn the plantations. There is no easy answer to this.
mike otter
2 years ago
Gove, BJ, & Osborne or Nikki Sixx, Ozzy Osborne & Anthony Keidis. What’s the difference ? (obvs several pages worth). The important differences are the latter have recovered from mad levels or barley abuse and help and mentor others to do the same, plus i’d love to have an orange juice with them. The former still think coke is “cool” plus they feed from a trough that only works if Cartel and Mafia drug money is allowed to prop up their economies. Imagine Gove on a big run? no thanks.
Geoffrey Wilson
2 years ago
Interesting article, thanks. Too much emphasis on claiming there is a culture war between newspapers and the Liberal elite, rather than admitting the matter of illegal drug use and nasty criminality is a big problem which we in society need to address. The article admits that curbing drug demand is a good idea, then tries to claim Liberal brownie points by ridiculing Shaun Bailey’s proposal to drug test people regularly. To me, that seems a good idea – I will listen to counter-arguments, but so far have seen none.
Wear a fur coat and get stuff thrown on you and disapproval from all sides.
Use coke and be thought edgy, cool, and classy. Although there is more suffering inflicted in the coke than the fur.
“Is it OK for rich, right wing drug users to buy coke drenched in the bloodshed caused by prohibition?” Not really. So why are the liberals who purchase what’s marketed as “woke coke” getting all the flack?” Ffs
It’s quite simple – hypocrisy. In reality it makes f-all difference who buys the coke – still the same awful origins – but there’s hypocrisy if one side has been camping hard on the moral high ground, yet still takes part in unethical practices.
The overwhelming social narrative has been that liberals/left are good people who care about others whereas being right wing is selfish and evil.
I will stick to my supplier of choice – Waitrose’s wine department. So thank heavens no ethical dilemmas!
How about all the fish that make up the isinglass in wine?
Until the various governments decide they will become the supplier and control production at the source the problem will exist. Users will never go away but government set pricing can ensure the illegal trade isn’t so profitable. The morality of use remains an issue no matter what. Many jobs will disappear but converted to the supply chain.
Wouldn’t government intervention have the opposite effect? They would manipulate all elements of the product to either maximise government revenue, or stop users buying the product, so a black market would rapidly emerge. Comparisons with alcohol and tobacco immediately spring to mind, and so does anything and everywhere where government tries to manipulate the relationship between suppliers and buyers. Shipbuilding, car use, railways, smaller chocolate bars, etcetc. In fact, I wonder if the growth in coke and weed use is because of the government making cigarettes expensive and unfashionable
I’m not suggesting a free market in cocaine. But, perhaps with light regulation as to quality and safety, it would lower the price of the drugs, bring the industry into the light, enable better control over quality, create tax revenues. And the users could, if they wanted, go to hell in a fragrant handcart, but at a cheaper cost than they do now.
Or the west could set up a task force to burn the plantations. There is no easy answer to this.
Gove, BJ, & Osborne or Nikki Sixx, Ozzy Osborne & Anthony Keidis. What’s the difference ? (obvs several pages worth). The important differences are the latter have recovered from mad levels or barley abuse and help and mentor others to do the same, plus i’d love to have an orange juice with them. The former still think coke is “cool” plus they feed from a trough that only works if Cartel and Mafia drug money is allowed to prop up their economies. Imagine Gove on a big run? no thanks.
Interesting article, thanks. Too much emphasis on claiming there is a culture war between newspapers and the Liberal elite, rather than admitting the matter of illegal drug use and nasty criminality is a big problem which we in society need to address. The article admits that curbing drug demand is a good idea, then tries to claim Liberal brownie points by ridiculing Shaun Bailey’s proposal to drug test people regularly. To me, that seems a good idea – I will listen to counter-arguments, but so far have seen none.