Thank you Mr.Pottinger. You describe the horror inflicted upon a generation born to hope and imagine they could defeat tribalism and corruption as part of a “Rainbow Nation.” It must be devastating living through these demonstrations of abject failure.
Are there sufficiently funded strategies working with families across tribal boundaries? What National rewards exist to abandon this descent into chaos and certain collapse? Is collapse accepted as a necessary foundation to rebuild? Many questions, but a timely illustration of how bad things need become for the community to finally confront its own destruction.
Effective and well organised citizen groups maybe the future in many jurisdictions. Calls to “defund the Police” in America have given rise to a “huge” increase in private security often funded by those “leaders” advocating smaller and less effective policing!
Chris Milburn
2 years ago
I have a number of friends from SA. This story is incredibly upsetting. “The veneer of civilization is thin”. Many people predicted this would happen when Apartheid ended. It was not a system I would ever defend, but like many other countries, one system was torn down without proper thought as to what would spring up in its stead.
South Africa should have been partitioned. black people seem to have the singularly unique inability to rule themselves in the long run. This is what history teaches.
Lesley van Reenen
2 years ago
What he does not say is that people of all races stood together defending their middle class communities in KZN.
At the same time as this played out there is a continued movement afoot to make guns owned by citizens illegal. How these idiots think they can get this right in the Wild West is anyone’s guess – I’m betting you could stroll down to a taxi rank and buy one illegally. I personally own two guns and would certainly not relinquish them. Second amendment.
Chris Eaton
2 years ago
Does the author of this article own a dictionary? People gathering together to defend their homes are not vigilantes.
Yes they are. When there is no police then humans group together to defend themselves. Defund the police and you get vigilantes and gangs. See “San Francisco Committee of Vigilance” on Wiki.
And do you know who was involved? William T. Sherman, later Gen. Sherman in the US Civil War.
Jon Redman
2 years ago
Why are they called “townships” and not just “towns”?
Because a town has town-planning and these are sprawls without any
Galeti Tavas
2 years ago
Soros? Is there anything to think from this story the West could note? I mean Biden, 2020, the world is set on a new trajectory and I find it very frighting. In USA I see expectations being raised and raised, that the Government will just pay everyone, pay those who do not make much a living, and give a better living to the ones making a bit, and Go Green with Trillions, and raise minimum wages, and raise all pay, and keep interest zero, and give free medical, university, welfare, child care, pensions, relive student debt, BUT this will Very Soon no longer be sustainable, and the checks will begin bouncing or the $ Devalued 50%, or something, and THEN the rioting will get very real.
If these easy times have huge civil discord, what when the times get very tight?
This writer says the problem is engineered – does anyone doubt the situation in the West is not?
If you like the top people explaining the economy try Youtube, Dalio just did a one hour (He owns the world’s largest Hedge Fund) that is great. Then try Jim Roberts, he actually was George Soros’s partner when they ‘Broke the Bank of England’, (pillaging every savings of every person in UK of 25% of their money). He has great videos on economics, current ones.
Try Peter Schiff for a Gold Bug, owner of Schiff Gold, and Euro Capital investments, he does a every second day, long video…. I like George Gammon, Rebel Capitalist when he is not flying too high on his Medellín habits, Cambridge House can be pleasant. DeMartino-Booth, and the Gold Bugs Kitko and Stansberry Research – if you are illeterate on economics You Must try them – but take it all with a grain of salt, espically the Bitcoin and Gold Bugs…But to not watch some of this is being very negligent.
JIM ROGERS, not Roberts… You should watch him, he is just like the most kind and gentle and decent, fatherly, uncle… but moves money thought the world in vast amounts, and once was a pirate robbing nations of their savings. (Soros did this to make his Billions, breaking National Banks, although he ended with Soros in 1980… But you need to know these folk) (He also drove a motorcycle around the world, and then a car, and lives in Singapore)
Like the corrupt leaders are intentionally breaking SA, and many other nations, for their personal power and gains, the Corrupt Global Elite are breaking the West for the same reason….. Absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely, it would seem.
ralph bell
2 years ago
As someone who has recently visited South Africa J’Berg, Cape Town and Soweto, it is a country of extraordinary beauty and rich culture. There are also many wonderful people from each of the ethnic groups. Like Zimbabwe, where I worked as a volunteer for 2 years, it is imploding just when it was on the brink of long term success and improved living and livelihoods for its people. Its a tragedy…
Maybe these governments must be composed of a coalition of the competing groups so corruption can be monitored and working together fostered by all.
It’s hard not to feel that the union created in the South Africa Act 1909 was ultimately a very bad idea. A lot of problems would have been avoided if the Afrikaners had been left alone in their republics.
Maybe these governments must be composed of a coalition of the competing groups so corruption can be monitored and working together fostered by all.
No it will never happen.Tribalsim means the winner takes all.In the UK tribalism is more nuanced because we belong to communities.
Diversity is our strength.Diversity is our strength………………,…..
No in Lebanon, the politicians do nothing for decades apart from infighting, except when there is crisis when they are close ranks put up the shutters, stick together and send out the Military and Police against their people. (This was a comment made on BB2 Newsnight).
Thank you Mr.Pottinger. You describe the horror inflicted upon a generation born to hope and imagine they could defeat tribalism and corruption as part of a “Rainbow Nation.” It must be devastating living through these demonstrations of abject failure.
Are there sufficiently funded strategies working with families across tribal boundaries? What National rewards exist to abandon this descent into chaos and certain collapse? Is collapse accepted as a necessary foundation to rebuild? Many questions, but a timely illustration of how bad things need become for the community to finally confront its own destruction.
Effective and well organised citizen groups maybe the future in many jurisdictions. Calls to “defund the Police” in America have given rise to a “huge” increase in private security often funded by those “leaders” advocating smaller and less effective policing!
I have a number of friends from SA. This story is incredibly upsetting. “The veneer of civilization is thin”. Many people predicted this would happen when Apartheid ended. It was not a system I would ever defend, but like many other countries, one system was torn down without proper thought as to what would spring up in its stead.
South Africa should have been partitioned. black people seem to have the singularly unique inability to rule themselves in the long run. This is what history teaches.
What he does not say is that people of all races stood together defending their middle class communities in KZN.
At the same time as this played out there is a continued movement afoot to make guns owned by citizens illegal. How these idiots think they can get this right in the Wild West is anyone’s guess – I’m betting you could stroll down to a taxi rank and buy one illegally. I personally own two guns and would certainly not relinquish them. Second amendment.
Does the author of this article own a dictionary? People gathering together to defend their homes are not vigilantes.
Yes they are. When there is no police then humans group together to defend themselves. Defund the police and you get vigilantes and gangs. See “San Francisco Committee of Vigilance” on Wiki.
And do you know who was involved? William T. Sherman, later Gen. Sherman in the US Civil War.
Why are they called “townships” and not just “towns”?
Because a town has town-planning and these are sprawls without any
Soros? Is there anything to think from this story the West could note? I mean Biden, 2020, the world is set on a new trajectory and I find it very frighting. In USA I see expectations being raised and raised, that the Government will just pay everyone, pay those who do not make much a living, and give a better living to the ones making a bit, and Go Green with Trillions, and raise minimum wages, and raise all pay, and keep interest zero, and give free medical, university, welfare, child care, pensions, relive student debt, BUT this will Very Soon no longer be sustainable, and the checks will begin bouncing or the $ Devalued 50%, or something, and THEN the rioting will get very real.
(Unfunded Mandates (pensions, medicare, SS… $85.5 Trillion),
So National debt $28.5 Trillion, GDP $22.3 Trillion, Debt/GDP 128.3%
Fed spending $6.8 Trillion, Fed income $ 3,6 Trillion, annual deficit, $ 3.2 Trillion….
If these easy times have huge civil discord, what when the times get very tight?
This writer says the problem is engineered – does anyone doubt the situation in the West is not?
If you like the top people explaining the economy try Youtube, Dalio just did a one hour (He owns the world’s largest Hedge Fund) that is great. Then try Jim Roberts, he actually was George Soros’s partner when they ‘Broke the Bank of England’, (pillaging every savings of every person in UK of 25% of their money). He has great videos on economics, current ones.
Try Peter Schiff for a Gold Bug, owner of Schiff Gold, and Euro Capital investments, he does a every second day, long video…. I like George Gammon, Rebel Capitalist when he is not flying too high on his Medellín habits, Cambridge House can be pleasant. DeMartino-Booth, and the Gold Bugs Kitko and Stansberry Research – if you are illeterate on economics You Must try them – but take it all with a grain of salt, espically the Bitcoin and Gold Bugs…But to not watch some of this is being very negligent.
JIM ROGERS, not Roberts… You should watch him, he is just like the most kind and gentle and decent, fatherly, uncle… but moves money thought the world in vast amounts, and once was a pirate robbing nations of their savings. (Soros did this to make his Billions, breaking National Banks, although he ended with Soros in 1980… But you need to know these folk) (He also drove a motorcycle around the world, and then a car, and lives in Singapore)
Like the corrupt leaders are intentionally breaking SA, and many other nations, for their personal power and gains, the Corrupt Global Elite are breaking the West for the same reason….. Absolute power tends to corrupt absolutely, it would seem.
As someone who has recently visited South Africa J’Berg, Cape Town and Soweto, it is a country of extraordinary beauty and rich culture. There are also many wonderful people from each of the ethnic groups. Like Zimbabwe, where I worked as a volunteer for 2 years, it is imploding just when it was on the brink of long term success and improved living and livelihoods for its people. Its a tragedy…
Maybe these governments must be composed of a coalition of the competing groups so corruption can be monitored and working together fostered by all.
It’s hard not to feel that the union created in the South Africa Act 1909 was ultimately a very bad idea. A lot of problems would have been avoided if the Afrikaners had been left alone in their republics.
Marred only by its inhabitants.
Maybe these governments must be composed of a coalition of the competing groups so corruption can be monitored and working together fostered by all.
No it will never happen.Tribalsim means the winner takes all.In the UK tribalism is more nuanced because we belong to communities.
Diversity is our strength.Diversity is our strength………………,…..
Diversity is a mirage.
What, like in Lebanon ?
No in Lebanon, the politicians do nothing for decades apart from infighting, except when there is crisis when they are close ranks put up the shutters, stick together and send out the Military and Police against their people. (This was a comment made on BB2 Newsnight).
I’m not sure how anyone can conclude that either Zimbabwe or South Africa were on the brink of success just as they collapsed.