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Why utopias always fail A commune built on wokeness is bound to crumble

Mormons blowing. Credit: Getty.

Mormons blowing. Credit: Getty.


May 20, 2021   6 mins

What’s the secret of a successful utopia? I dare say the many young people seeking to abandon their atomised, urban existence for one of Britain’s many communes would like to know. The burned-out millennials in China now deserting “996” working hours — 9am-9pm, 6 days a week — for rustic community living presumably would as well.

I made several attempts at communal living in my bohemian twenties, but never hit on a formula that worked. Somehow, infighting always seemed to creep back into our little corner of heaven on earth.

So I have little personal advice to offer the latest group to join the 21st-century rush for the connected life: radical black separatists. Black Hammer, a group that describes itself as “dedicated toward building a sustainable future for all colonised people worldwide”, recently announced that they’ve crowdfunded enough money to purchase 200 acres of Colorado mountain land. There, they propose to found “Hammer City”, a communist “ethnostate” that promises “no rent”, “no cops” and “no white people”.

I can tell Black Hammer this, though. Their project is not, as they hope, a wholesale rejection of everything mainstream America stands for. Rather, they’re embracing one of the American Dream’s most archetypal forms: the pursuit of utopia.

In the early seventeenth century, thousands of Puritans sailed from England to the New World to found their ideal society free of oppression. For the Puritans, the stifling authority of the Catholic Church was an impediment to their close relationship to God — and even English Protestants were milquetoasts who had submitted to the corrupting yoke of earthly authority by installing the monarch as head of their church. Rejecting all these sources of external control, the Puritans fled for the New World and a blank slate for their vision.

After displacing at least some of this New World’s indigenous inhabitants, they flourished in Massachusetts. And in doing so they set a vital template for what America is: somewhere you go to create heaven on earth. With enough faith, the Puritan model suggested, a visionary few can throw off the stifling weight of convention and authority, carving out a new, untainted utopia on unclaimed soil.

This template didn’t disappear with the settlement of the continent. By the 19th century, even the New World’s weight of authority and convention prompted renewed efforts to secede from the mainstream and create still more perfect micro-utopias inside the larger American one.

According to John Harrison, there were some 130 attempts at founding utopian communes in pre-Civil War America. Around 16 of these were inspired by the proto-socialist visions of Welsh philanthropist Robert Owen, who envisaged common property, collective work and communal childcare. The French proto-communist thinker Charles Fourier, also wildly popular at the time, similarly outlined a vision of utopian communities where everyone’s natural inclinations corresponded perfectly to all the types of work that needed doing; it prompted some 300 American efforts to found Fourierist “intentional communities” in the 1840s.

But all the Owenite endeavours collapsed, including the one founded in 1825 by Owen himself. And most of the Fourierist intentional communities survived for a maximum of three years.

What went wrong? Many of their difficulties can be attributed to the fact that people who imagine ideal societies rarely have the practical skills needed to realise them. When French Fourierist Victor Considérant founded his La Réunion community in Texas in 1855, artists, lawyers, musicians and journalists flocked to the community — but they were joined by fewer than ten farmers. The project collapsed after 18 months amid homesickness, bickering and a distinct lack of home-grown produce.

In Black Hammer, something of the same skills gap may already be in evidence. Though we’re yet to discover how successful Hammer City will prove, critics have pointed to the short high-altitude Colorado growing season, the evident poverty of the soil and their failure to consider water rights as factors which may impede the successful creation of a self-sufficient utopia.

But some of the challenges to would-be utopians may also relate to the worldview of utopians more broadly. In 2019, “regenerative agriculture” advocate Chris Newman argued that “progressive” agriculture should challenge the racist, individualist “yeoman farmer” model and take a more collectivist approach. He then put this into practice, transforming his Sylvanaqua farm into a collective of 75-100 people “with a particular focus on providing opportunities of ownership for people traditionally denied such roles in agriculture: people of colour, LGBT folks, and women”. Speaking to progressive publication Mother Jones last year, Newman argued that “marginalised” people were “better equipped to think of more innovative models for how sustainable agriculture can work than most of the white people who are incumbent in agriculture”.

But reports suggest it’s not going well. First-hand accounts describe unsanitary conditions and animal cruelty, while the farm’s chaotic expansion plans and disorganised management culminated in the abrupt resignation of Newman. The whole team of “marginalised people” has been summarily fired, and there’s a crowdfunder under way to help them with resettlement costs.

Was this inevitable? The question of “sustainability” is often applied to ecological systems, but we use it far less frequently in social contexts. Yet if there’s such a thing as social sustainability, how can it be achieved? If stories percolating from Sylvanaqua are to be believed, the answer may not be as simple as hiring people with personal experience of oppression.

A clue to what does work may be found in one of the more durable antebellum American utopias: the Oneida Community, founded in 1848 by John Humphrey Noyes. Oneida was, in some ways, similar to the Fourierist and Owenite experiments: a radically communal settlement in which property was held in common and children were raised collectively. More radical still, members practised a form of sexual communitarianism Noyes termed “complex marriage”, which meant anyone could have sex with anyone else who consented.

But unlike the Fourierist experiments, Oneida lasted until 1879. How? The principal difference seems to be that unlike secular communitarians, Noyes was a Christian, and Oneida was united by strong (if eccentric) religious faith.

Yet even so, Oneida eventually foundered on the problem of generational continuity. Despite his commitment to dismantling family bonds, Noyes attempted to hand leadership on to his own son. Theodore Noyes, though, didn’t have his father’s charisma or convictions; the community imploded, with members scattering and its assets distributed among members in 1880 as joint-stock holdings. Oneida survives to this day, but only as a silverware company.

Not all such communities fail. The Amish arrived in Pennsylvania in the 1730s to create their own heaven on earth. In 1900, there were around 5,000 Amish; and yet despite holding themselves radically apart from mainstream America, famously by rejecting most modern technology, the sect has around 350,000 members in North America today. And that figure is only set grow: the Old Order Amish double their numbers every 20 years.

Of course, if a utopia is successful enough, we stop thinking of it as such. Of the visionary communities founded in America during the 19th century, the most successful now wields considerable institutional power in its home state of Utah and boasts over 16 million members worldwide: the Mormons.

The common factor in keeping a utopia going, then, appears to be a religious creed. One Maine tradesman, who goes by the Twitter pseudonym ‘BoiltOwl’, views hippy dreams of returning to the land as always destined to fail. As he sees it, “sustainability, boutique agri-business, gentrifying the general store, does not have the heft needed to last”. In contrast, he describes the slow “colonisation” of his neighbourhood by the Amish, and how their effectiveness is powered by their religious commitments and rejection of individualism:

The Amish are ideologically committed. They are not atomised, individual actors responding to civilisational malaise like the hippies. They are connected families, connected through marriage, buying connected land and lots of it.

In his view, the Amish formula is the one that will win: “They are exclusive, focused on generational continuation and self-aware — a powerful bulwark against the most corrosive elements of the modern world.”

So perhaps the main reason all my efforts at communal living failed was that they were secular. For if the history of American attempts at founding the Promised Land are anything to go by, having a robust religious creed is less an impediment to successful utopia than a vital precondition.

On this yardstick, what’s the prognosis for Black Hammer? The group professes a virulent form of the belief system commonly known as “wokeness” — a worldview commonly described these days as a religion. And if wokeness actually is a religion, it ought to be better able to facilitate community living than liberal secular individualism.

My colleague Peter Franklin argued yesterday that, contra many recent laments, “wokeness” is far from being a “religion” set to supplant Christianity. Perhaps the acid test of whether or not he’s right is whether Black Hammer thrives. For the long list of failed secular utopias, and slightly shorter list of thriving religious ones, suggests the cultural sustainability of a shared faith is as crucial to a community’s survival as soil quality, water rights or farming skill.

Does a belief system help communities live together? Does it inspire its adherents to create things that will outlast them? Is it a faith that encourages children to be born and raised as happy adults who stay in the community? This is certainly the case for the Amish, but only time will tell whether Black Hammer’s beliefs meet these criteria — or those of “wokeness” in general.

While today’s progressives are all for “dismantling” social norms, no community can sustain itself beyond one generation unless it’s also capable of maintaining them over the long haul. If “woke” ideas fail this test, Black Hammer is unlikely to survive. And the many more mainstream institutions that have embraced such doctrines may also find themselves crumbling, for want of the kind of faith that inspires its believers to build.


Mary Harrington is a contributing editor at UnHerd.

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Seb Dakin
Seb Dakin
2 years ago

The amount of nonsense that goes around never ceases to amaze me.
To take the Sylvanqua guy: people of colour and women have been denied roles in agriculture? You what? You have to be almost entirely ignorant of literally all human history to claim that. Couldn’t comment on LGBT types. My guess is that they worked in the fields like everyone else, whilst being to greater or lesser degrees in/out the closet.
And the bit about everyone else having better ideas than white people about how to farm. EH? I hardly think someone’s skin colour determines their ability to farm. You might meanwhile want to take a look at Zimbabwe for what happens when you take land off people who know how to farm it and give it to people who don’t purely based on skin colour. (hint: exactly what happened in Sylvanqua)
Anyhow, so this prat Chris Newman has given up, and the experiment failed. Quelle surprise.
And as for Black Hammer’s The-Revolution-Will-Not-Be-Televised utopia, well I’m guessing mere months before we’re in Lord of the Flies territory, never mind needing a bit of crowd-funding.

Jez O'Meara
Jez O'Meara
2 years ago
Reply to  Seb Dakin

The comment at the end about Lord of the Flies is excellent, I wanted to find a way to simply say how this whole idea sounds and Lord of the Flies definitely fills the need.

Nigel H
Nigel H
2 years ago
Reply to  Seb Dakin

Watch this video as to how the locals in Zimbabwe treated their returning farmer. why hasn’t this been on the news?
https://youtu.be/i10ppb_yKUU
One can have all the highfalutin right minded ideas going, but food on the table and jobs for locals trumps it every time

Rick Sharona
Rick Sharona
2 years ago
Reply to  Nigel H

Doesn’t fit the narrative of white man oppressor hated by blacks.

Jon Redman
Jon Redman
2 years ago
Reply to  Seb Dakin

You can absolutely 100% sure that when it fails it will still be “because racism”.

David George
David George
2 years ago
Reply to  Seb Dakin

Perhaps the Black Hammer people think Wakanda was a documentary.
Just reading their mission statement/begging page it all sounds very inclusive in an exclusive way:

  • Building a city for all people of color to be free (no discrimination of nationality, gender, age, mental/physical differences, etc)
  • Jobs, housing, food, healthcare
  • No cops, no rent, no Coronavirus, and no white people
  • Returning the land to Indigenous people
  • Building the first Hammer City in Colorado
Tom Krehbiel
Tom Krehbiel
2 years ago
Reply to  David George

How is a settlement by people of African descent returning land to people indigenous to North America, did they explain that?

Ray Zacek
Ray Zacek
2 years ago
Reply to  David George

To me they come off like the Monty Python anarcho-syndicalist peasants in bronze face but without the humor.

Galeti Tavas
Galeti Tavas
2 years ago
Reply to  Seb Dakin

Mary, very sad you missed out on the Doukhobours and Hutterites. Both have successful colonies still going. The Doukhobours used to be famous in Canada fro their propensity to march as an entire community, naked, when protesting government interference, and a thing for arson when you really stirred them up. But being Russian they have an edge of nuttiness the German ones you talked about, do not quite have.

Galeti Tavas
Galeti Tavas
2 years ago
Reply to  Galeti Tavas

I see antifa even co-opted a Doukhobour picture of them getting nakedcomment image?content-type=image%2Fjpeg

jvirgin jvirgin
jvirgin jvirgin
2 years ago
Reply to  Galeti Tavas

But sort of proves her point though as they are both religious groups.

Ray Zacek
Ray Zacek
2 years ago
Reply to  Seb Dakin

Crowdfunding? No, Black Hammer will need body bags in a few months.

Mike Boosh
Mike Boosh
2 years ago

Living independently off the land is a hard life that requires tough, hard working, physically and mentally resilient people with wide skill sets and an ability to adapt adopt and improvise. Not sure that the sort of woke whingers that demand safe spaces, whine about microaggressions, and get upset when someone uses the phrase “ladies and gentlemen” are really cut out for that life.

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
2 years ago
Reply to  Mike Boosh

check out a couple of reality shows like “Life below zero” and “Port Protection” where people have taken on the subsistence lifestyle. It’s not easy and certainly not for the beta male woke crowd.

David George
David George
2 years ago

We have a very successful communitarian outfit here in New Zealand; Gloriavale, that’s run along the lines of the Amish though not as extreme. No private property and all working for the organisation, religious (Christian) with strict (though generally socially imposed) rules and traditions. The media are constantly giving them a hard time; that they’re (mostly) white and Christian seems motivation enough. The black US one will no doubt be unreservedly praised and any eventual failure will, naturally be down to racism or colonisation or something not their fault.
Most people today would balk at the loss of individuality and freedom but they appear to be totally necessary for the thing to work. The hippy communes were all short lived for that reason. The communal fantasy’s confrontation with the reality of hard work and collective sacrifice.

Kathy Prendergast
Kathy Prendergast
2 years ago
Reply to  David George

The personal account of the woman who lived and worked at the failed Sylvanaqua collective farm is quite illuminating. She sounds like a typical idealistic SJW, albeit with some extremist views, eg. she is radically anti-police, to the point of cutting off her relationship with her mother when she called police on her mentally ill brother and tried to have him committed. As a black woman she seems to see everything through the lens of citiycal race theory. She was dismayed to discover all the “toxic masculinity” in the community. It seems she was surprised at how hard she was expected to work, and how little her contribution was appreciated. She lists her job responsibilities as going to the Saturday farmers market, including a 3 hour driving commute both ways, a rota of chores three days a week, assisting with bi-monthly slaughter and meat processing, and field work “almost every day”, but she doesn’t say how many hours of field work. Two? Three? If so that would be a ridiculously light workload for a farmer. Real farmers work from dawn to dusk, six or seven days a week. The only time they sit down is to eat. True agrarian life is brutally difficult, but those who are born into it cope with it because that’s their normal. The Amish have always lived this way. Children are expected to start doing chores and contributing as soon as they are physically able. It seems to me the biggest problem for these created secular communities is people join them as adults and are completely unused to the reality of the hard, unending graft required to keep such operations going. They see “down time”, relaxation and recreation as their right, rather than as an occasional, earned luxury. Often, they bring their substance abuse issues and personal demons with them. They love the idea of “being taken care of” in a self-sufficient community without really thinking over what it’s going to ask of them.

William Murphy
William Murphy
2 years ago

“bi-monthly slaughter”……you mean that I have to kill cuddly animals???? The horror, the horror…..

Fraser Bailey
Fraser Bailey
2 years ago
Reply to  David George

‘The black US one will no doubt be unreservedly praised and any eventual failure will, naturally be down to racism or colonisation or something not their fault.’
When it subsides into violence, hunger and death they will blame Trump.

AC Harper
AC Harper
2 years ago
Reply to  Fraser Bailey

…and people will say that they were not ‘black’ enough. Next time will be different!

Janusz Przeniczny
Janusz Przeniczny
2 years ago
Reply to  David George

My take on these Utopian ideas is that either the people want “freedom to do their own thing” or a group splits into the domineering group and a subservient group.
The former fails because the freedom bit is great, but somehow responsibilities get in the way. The latter normally means women are more subservient than before, so the point was what?
Tilling the soil to grow enough for 12 months of the year is medieval peasant stuff. I think the crowdfunding site will be working overtime longer than people think. But good luck to them, and as a reading book they should try The Forsaken: An American Tragedy in Stalin’s Russia.
The grass is always greener on the other side.

Rick Sharona
Rick Sharona
2 years ago
Reply to  David George

The Amish do have private property and in fact run very successful businesses while adhering to Amish beliefs. They maintain a sense of community by helping any in the community that are in need and common standards and rules (for dress as example). but they are far from Collective.
As an aside, a couple of years ago 2 Amish were in a dispute and one cut the other man’s beard off. He was sentenced to prison for assault.

imackenzie56
imackenzie56
2 years ago
Reply to  Rick Sharona

One small quibble–they have some very collective habits, health care costs being one of them and joint building of houses and barns and the like, at least in Ohio where I lived But they are indeed sharp businessmen. Also there is a lot of variation among the Amish, Old Amish all the way to the more relaxed but similar Mennonites.

David George
David George
2 years ago
Reply to  Rick Sharona

Thanks Rick, Gloriavale run businesses that engage with the wider world as well. These are owned and operated collectively and successfully. The SJW types hate them and have organised boycotts of their products; they’re the wrong sort of minority apparently.

imackenzie56
imackenzie56
2 years ago
Reply to  David George

Having visited a number of true hippy communes in my teens in upstate New York (land was cheap) it certainly didn’t help that at least half the members were high more than half the time (that’s why I was there of course, to get some).

Galeti Tavas
Galeti Tavas
2 years ago
Reply to  imackenzie56

My winter on a commune late 1970s was likely the happiest time in my life. The one making the most money had a full time minimum wage job (I think it was $2 an hour), the rest of us had no visible means of income. We were very poor but some got food stamps as there were no jobs to be had, and we all lived on that. I was just off the road and very fit and I scoured the area for miles around every day gathering recycling, lugging it back, and making just enough to get drunk every night (and on good days in the morning too). Most of my money was from the five cent on beverage bottles and cans, I walked about 20 miles a day, or till I had enough stuff – when I had gotten every last container within walking distance I hitched on across the continent to pick fruit for a vegan sort of collective – but they were no fun and kicked me out immediately for smoking.
I loved it, and would have stayed longer but for the lack of work, and I was getting restless too I suppose – but we were very happy together, lots of weird times, but just really nice.

Seb Dakin
Seb Dakin
2 years ago
Reply to  Galeti Tavas

Possibly the best year of my life was on a kibbutz. Work hard all week, free beer on Friday. Which is fine if you’re young, and only there for a year. I sensed sometimes the older guys, or even the ones just back from their time in the army, felt restless sometimes. At some point, for all a successful commune might be cosy, it’s going to start feeling small.

J Bryant
J Bryant
2 years ago

The importance of a unifying ideology, be it religious or secular, also applies to nations and cultures. Maybe we in the West should spend less time criticizing the ridiculous pronouncements of the woke and spend more time revitalizing our own culture. Let’s fill the vacuum that progessivism seeks to fill.
So far as Black Hammer colonizing the Colorado high country goes, I’ve spent most of my adult life in the American West and it’s a beautiful but harsh place unsuited to urban refugees without practical skills and determination.
Black Hammer should keep a video record of their community-building efforts. When they eventually fail they can sell the footage to a reality TV show and make a fortune.

Jonathan Ellman
Jonathan Ellman
2 years ago
Reply to  J Bryant

Couldn’t agree more with your first paragraph.

James Rowlands
James Rowlands
2 years ago

I actually think that this is a good thing. People wanting to live in communities that reflect their values.
I live in rural Wales by the sea. Whilst I have no problem with middle class non Woke English arriving here, I do have a problem with certain other groups settling here.
If a black community wants to exclude Whites then fair enough. Clearly it would have to work both ways and I am uncomfortable with that. I would prefer to discriminate on religious affiliation. To my mind that is what has made Britain great and the weakening of those values and along with it Christian based laws, are responsible for what we read about every day in Khan’s London, and is increasingly seen everywhere.
We have had of course own commune of sorts for centuries. Not everyone was acceptable within the commune, hence the prison population.
I think that I am lucky. I do live in a part of the UK that is still fairly homogeneous culturally. Nearly everyone has the same broad values and wants to keep it that way. The keenest are often the English refugees, who have seen what chaos the other approach offers.

Last edited 2 years ago by James Rowlands
Annette Kralendijk
Annette Kralendijk
2 years ago
Reply to  James Rowlands

“Not everyone was acceptable within the commune, hence the prison population.”
you put people in prison because a commune finds them unacceptable?

Judy Johnson
Judy Johnson
2 years ago

I think James is saying that people are in prison because they break the rules of the overall commune ie society’s laws.

James Rowlands
James Rowlands
2 years ago
Reply to  Judy Johnson

Correct Judy.

We always have bern a commune of sorts and discriminate in favour of the people with the same values.

This is now of course turned on its head

Arnold Grutt
Arnold Grutt
2 years ago
Reply to  Judy Johnson

A ‘state’ is not necessarily a commune (the main error of the left). The UK is a ‘free association’ society. Or at least, it was before the left got their hands on it.
The state is a legal dispensation. The UK is ideal in a sense. The monarch rules but is not absolute (the Queen cannot summarily have people arrested and jailed or killed). Everything is decided in a horizontal chain of authority (top person: ‘God’) which no individual can arrogate to themselves. The PM does not rule, Parliament does not rule, the judges do not rule, the civil service does not rule, the ‘people’ do not rule. Perfect.

Last edited 2 years ago by Arnold Grutt
Philip Burrell
Philip Burrell
2 years ago
Reply to  Arnold Grutt

When exactly did the left get their hands on any part of your horizontal chain of authority viz Queen, PM, Parliament, judges, civil service, people? Have I missed the revolution? I must have been watching television when it happened.

Annette Kralendijk
Annette Kralendijk
2 years ago
Reply to  Judy Johnson

Well that isn’t what he said. The key of course is breaking the law.

Lang Cleg
Lang Cleg
2 years ago

I think it won’t survive because wokeness isn’t so much a religion as anarcho libertarianism practised by narcissists! Imagine narcs building a communal utopia!

Geoff H
Geoff H
2 years ago
Reply to  Lang Cleg

I’d say it was a cult – it has all the hallmarks of a cult.

imackenzie56
imackenzie56
2 years ago
Reply to  Lang Cleg

There is nothing, nothing Libertarian about the Woke. Where in the world did you get such an idea?

matthew-hall
matthew-hall
2 years ago

Communes fail for very simple reasons. The simplest is that women immediately become full time domestics and men (the ones who aren’t lazy dossers) do the physical work. Hierarchies of competence quickly form and those who are incompetent become resentful and undermining.
To make the thing work at all, people have to be bound by a higher purpose. If this is a simple, inadequate dogma, the brighter people will question and undermine it very quickly.
The most common thing to happen in Utopian experiments is sexual exploitation and bullying.

kathleen carr
kathleen carr
2 years ago
Reply to  matthew-hall

There is that but its surprising how quickly the high minded liberal is reduced to the average state of jealous partner when someone takes the share and share alike a bit too literally.

Saul D
Saul D
2 years ago

Communities run into the allocation problem – that is how to allocate and distribute resources and work fairly while ensuring that the work gets done with equal levels of contribution. In families with children this is seen all the time – disputes over chores that turn into arguing. That means rules and mechanisms for solving disputes and ultimately some form of authority to impose a decision.
The rules and authority itself then become a subject for dissent. In open communities, people leave if they feel they have been dealt with unfairly. Specifically those working hard start to resent what they see are the slackers and time-wasters if there is not differential reward. So what starts enthusiastically ends up with fissures and cracks over minor things like whether the toilets are clean enough.
For religious communities, religion is the aim – being closer to God – so perhaps a greater willingness to accept unfairness and sacrifice for the greater good.

Chauncey Gardiner
Chauncey Gardiner
2 years ago
Reply to  Saul D

Perhaps some of those religious communities remedied the allocation problem by adopting institutions like private property.

Mark H
Mark H
2 years ago

There are others like the Bruderhof who have communal land and buildings, and personal “minor assets”. The Bruderhof has been going for nearly 100 years…

Tom Krehbiel
Tom Krehbiel
2 years ago
Reply to  Saul D

Not only greater closeness to God, but the promise of life after death, whether a heaven, reincarnation, or both. That’s why I can’t see how Wokeness can last very long, even if it satisfies many requirements of a religion. If you still die at the end of your Earthly life, and there’s no coming back from it, what’s the point of all the hard work and sacrifice? Most are a lot better off in a modern town or city with all their comforts and conveniences.

Simon Baseley
Simon Baseley
2 years ago

Anyone wishing for a glimpse of what a woke commune would look like should dig out episodes of the Channel 4 ‘documentary’, Eden. A carefully selected group of twenty- to-thirty somethings were sequestered on an island in Scotland in order that viewers could see how they got on. Being fair the participants were not selected on the basis of their woke credentials, but they were by and large suitably on message with tasks and roles being democratically shared out irrespective of gender and crucially ability. It wasn’t long before the cracks began to appear. For example, irritation grew as some of the women would take all day to chop wood and some of the men cavilled at doing the cooking. There was a suspected case of arson and the discovery of a smuggled mobile phone. By the third episode the group had split into rival factions and by the fourth, when Channel 4 cancelled the rest of the show, everyone was very angry and some close to starvation. On this basis all of us should do everything we can to encourage a woke commune movement.

Al M
Al M
2 years ago
Reply to  Simon Baseley

Sounds like a real life episode from John Fardell’s comic strip in Viz, The Modern Parents. Sadly absent from their pages in recent years.

James Slade
James Slade
2 years ago

Err the Puritans didn’t leave because of the Catholic Church, the reformation took place 90 years before hand. They left because they regarded the Church of England not sufficiently pure of Catholicism, hence the name. If you are going to us an historical analogy it might help to be factually correct

Last edited 2 years ago by James Slade
younbe75
younbe75
2 years ago
Reply to  James Slade

And many of those who settled in New England were separatists, Anabaptists and the like, who had left the established church. Puritans largely sought to remain within the Anglican church and reform it.

Richard Pearse
Richard Pearse
2 years ago
Reply to  James Slade

A few points of information: the so-called Pilgrims who founded Plymouth Colony in what is now Massachusetts, were NOT “Puritans” (who wanted to purify the English Church and remained in it) but so-called “separatists (who separated from the corrupt English Church). They did not leave England for North America, but rather for Holland, because they were being persecuted in England and Holland was than (as now) more “liberal.”

They left Holland for the “new world” after several years because their children were speaking DUTCH and were less “observant” than the adults wanted.

Giulia Khawaja
Giulia Khawaja
2 years ago
Reply to  Richard Pearse

Not all the Puritans went via Holland. Some sailed from Plymouth in Devon.

Fraser Bailey
Fraser Bailey
2 years ago

Ha, ha, yes, the Lotus Eaters did a podcast on these Black Hammer people. They are, quite literally, living in mud huts! Why not just go back to Africa? And anyone can see that nothing will grow in that soil. It won’t be long before the first homicide, just like the Chaz/Chop Uwokia in Seattle last year, where three people were killed in a couple of weeks.
I didn’t know the Amish were expanding so successfully. It’s good to hear. I did know a little about the Mormons in Utah, having just read Tara Westover’s Educated.

Last edited 2 years ago by Fraser Bailey
Jez O'Meara
Jez O'Meara
2 years ago
Reply to  Fraser Bailey

Like much surrounding the wokeness phenomenon, They won’t go back to africa because that would be a step much too far for these clowns. They exist only to become a “right on” protest movement with the safety blanket of western society in case all things go wrong.

The main problem with this and wokeness in general is the unwillingness to take on real responsibility and then be able to slink back into society when things get a bit tougher, worse still they are then given bandwidth to voice their failure on the society they use to cushion their fall.

Take away the bandwidth.

Last edited 2 years ago by Jez O'Meara
Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
2 years ago
Reply to  Jez O'Meara

The main problem with this and wokeness in general is the unwillingness to take on real responsibility
Exactly. Rather than embrace the freedoms and opportunities that past generations fought to make available, the current pretends that nothing has changed. Because the freedom to make decisions also implies being accountable for the consequences, which takes away the convenient excuse of blaming a white guy if something goes wrong.

kathleen carr
kathleen carr
2 years ago
Reply to  Fraser Bailey

Another group that have done well under difficult circumstances were the mormons in Salt Lake City , who could offer Black Hammer some practical advice on growing things on difficult land. Why didn’t Black Hammer buy better land or just put their money into real estate like that BLM woman?

kathleen carr
kathleen carr
2 years ago
Reply to  Fraser Bailey

That was suggested in the 19th century , but there were few takers to return to Liberia. With the present government in America considering reparations isn’t it unwise to buy someone else’s ( ie native Americans) land ?

Fraser Bailey
Fraser Bailey
2 years ago
Reply to  kathleen carr

I read a book by that Polish expert on Africa (he lived there for decades, can’t remember his name, perhaps Kaszyninski) that those who did return to Liberia enslaved the Liberians and became even more tyrannical than the US slave owners ever were.

kathleen carr
kathleen carr
2 years ago
Reply to  Fraser Bailey

Oh dear. The true story of slavery is quite involved and nobody comes out looking good. In 17th century colonial America the average farmer just required a few workers for a few years until his children were old enough to work. He relied on endentured servants who were both b & w. When they finished their term of endenture he set them up with some land-which is why b people then aquired workers of their own. The w people were a mix of people deliberately released from prison ( as in Daniel Defoe’s Moll Flanders) unemployed people and people looking for an opportunity. Someone who could afford to buy 100’s people would be a millionaire & own a plantation. If people wish to go after them its easy enough to find their names. However the plantation system offered a full range of work-from management, whose children were sometimes educated with the owners, clothes makers , clerical staff etc to the non-skilled. It was like a town that was self-sufficient. The same people in Africa would still have been captives & as you say probably have had a worse life-look at the trade that still exists today.Doesn’t make it right though and from the 18th century, first the Quakers , then others started the campaign which ended slavery in the British Empire.

kathleen carr
kathleen carr
2 years ago
Reply to  Fraser Bailey

My answer to you is awaiting approval so will just say yes agree with you. Unfortunately some politicians are strangers to facts and have their own agenda & don’t care what they have to do or say to see it through.

Johannes Kreisler
Johannes Kreisler
2 years ago
Reply to  kathleen carr

There appears to be a multi-tier censorfilter system, with a different number of worlds applied to each, according to previous “offences”. I cannot type “s l a v e r y” or any of its derivatives – or even have it quoted from someone else’s post -, it will trigger the orange “awaiting approval” banner. Same for “s u b s a h a r a n”, “n a z i”, and a few other words i so far identified. Fraser typed the s-word without problem (i see it in others’ comments too), so if you had it in your answer that might be the issue, and you might be in the same “offence tier” i’m in. There are various ways to substitute letters (capital i for l, option/1 for i, etc.) to get around it, but it’s most irritating indeed.

Johannes Kreisler
Johannes Kreisler
2 years ago

Just testing – sIavery, with capital i.
Yep, seems to work.
Or sh¡t, with inverted !, while we are at it.

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Fraser Bailey
Fraser Bailey
2 years ago
Reply to  kathleen carr

My perfectly reasonable reply to your post, which merely repeats historical information from a highly respected writer on Africa, is currently ‘Awaiting for approval’. This site is sick.

kathleen carr
kathleen carr
2 years ago
Reply to  Fraser Bailey

I know you have to ‘go all around the houses’ just to write anything- I avoid naming the country of the dinner plate for example & then it turns out something else is wrong.

Susannah Baring Tait
Susannah Baring Tait
2 years ago
Reply to  kathleen carr

It seems this site, with many anti-woke articles , is itself ‘woke’ in the comments section. Hypocritical, to say the least. I’ve had a few extremely innocuous comments removed. I have no idea why.

However, as long as the comments section remains ‘woke’, I am ignoring all this site’s requests to pay for membership. If you insult your readership, don’t expect them to pay for it.

kathleen carr
kathleen carr
2 years ago

Its fortunate we don’t have to go through this in normal speech-‘make me a cup of tea’-moderated-you’ll get your tea tomorrow if you’re lucky.

Emre Emre
Emre Emre
2 years ago

I’d expect a full blown religion version of wokeness to be totalitarian as well. In that sense the Soviets were a large scale experiment in that particular genre.

Simon Denis
Simon Denis
2 years ago
Reply to  Emre Emre

Quite so. But the key differences between the Amish / religious utopia and the Woke / Soviet kind are these: the first lot impose strong self disciplines of a traditional character upon themselves; they do so from the start and keep away from the rest of us. The second – the brutes – impose novel, impossible, ever-changing demands on others and foist themselves upon the rest of us. The impulse has the same root, but the one grows as a nourishing crop and the other as a poisonous weed.

David J
David J
2 years ago

I had a commune-leaning gf many years ago.
They were a middle-class group mind, inhabiting a rambling Queen Anne residence in Hertfordshire, complete with tennis court and other creature comforts. They swapped it after a while for another share space, a vast pile overlooking the trees of a Chelsea square.
That’s the way to do it!

Hammer Klavier
Hammer Klavier
2 years ago

One wonders just who “Black Hammer” will blame for all the problems they will inevitably face. Not themselves, that’s for sure.

Jon Redman
Jon Redman
2 years ago
Reply to  Hammer Klavier

Whitey. Guaranteed.

Ray Zacek
Ray Zacek
2 years ago
Reply to  Hammer Klavier

Climate change.

jonathan carter-meggs
jonathan carter-meggs
2 years ago

Utopias are the vision of either one person or a small group of empowered individuals and as such lack depth, experience, knowledge and ability that resides in the vast bulk of the wider population. Actions are either authorised by those in power or delegated to the masses but without appropriate communication channels and oversight. It turns out that a functioning democracy with a working bureaucracy can empower individuals and provide context and oversight and the failing leadership can be regularly replaced. Turns out we are living in the best Utopia that can be managed already.

Chauncey Gardiner
Chauncey Gardiner
2 years ago

So, here’s a competing narrative: Mormon society, Mennonite society (Amish society), Hutterite society, and other such ersatz “Utopian” societies are not Utopian insofar as they recognize PRIVATE PROPERTY.
Private property is the stuff of free exchange (la libre concurrence in Pareto’s parlance) between — ready for it? — individuals. Not the collective.
Perhaps it is the religion of free exchange and individualism (enabled by private property) that enables these “societies” to endure.
Meanwhile, we can find plenty of examples of societies that voluntarily adopted communal property and eventually died out — sometimes literally. Then there are the abundant examples of societies upon which the overlords imposed communal property. And those involved a lot of death, too. The Khmer Rouge experiment and collectivization in the Ukraine constitute stark examples.

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Sean L
Sean L
2 years ago

If anything qualifies as ‘utopian’ it’s multi-racialism. Proximity between rival identities guarantees strife even where people share the same appearance, as in Ireland or Lebanon or Balkans or Kenya where I happened to be in aftermath of 2007 ‘election’ when it all kicked off. But at least these rival groups are racially identical and indigenous.

Racial separatism has been officially condoned in England for decades with numerous public buildings named after Jamaican folk hero Marcus ‘Back to Africa’ Garvey. If you agree with him but belong to the group from whom he sought separation you’re “racist”. Equally for *not* agreeing with him.

Close by the Marcus Garvey Centre in Tottenham is a stone commemorating the death of Cynthia Jarrett who died of a heart attack as police were trying to arrest her son in 1985. PC Blakelock was hacked to death in the rioting some hours later. Nothing to remember him in Tottenham.

Remarkable that ‘right wing’ media nomenklatura oppose “socialism” pointing to Russia and China yet defend ‘melting pot’ which has never been other than catastrophic especially for Europeans.

Apparently we’re supposed to have blind faith that people will somehow become ‘British’ even while the scapegoating of Europeans intensifies. Which is bound to be the case as people become conscious of their growing numerical advantage. It couldn’t be otherwise. – Ash Sarkar on demographics:: ‘We’re winning lads’

Notable that in recent years ‘comedian’ Lenny Henry, who was routinely denounced as ‘coconut’ and ‘bounty’ in the 80s (‘Uncle Tom’ hadn’t yet entered the English lexicon) along with Frank Bruno, has now discovered his ‘black’ identity.

You can’t blame the bloke. But it illustrates the impossibility of co-existence between rival identities, especially where shared physical, which is to say *inherited* appearance is the defining factor.

And that was always the basis of Powell’s case against non-white settlement which was never about race as such only race as a vector of shared appearance. His logic was no different to the ban on political uniforms or even on away fans in pubs on match days. He even used the term “political uniform” analogously.

I was so brainwashed by ‘anti-racism’ in the 70s myself that I sided with them politically against my own group in full knowledge of the racially motivated crime and violence. I knew boys who laughed and joked about following white pensioners from the Post Office to rob them on their way home.

It took years to recognise the racial antagonism for what it was. Because I had cordial relations with people as individuals I was dismissing the group factor. But groups no more compare to individuals than bread to flour and water even if it consists of nothing else.

In effect ‘anti-racism’ collectivises Europeans against their group interest while individualising others to absolving them from collective responsibility.

Instead of feeling superior to other races ‘anti-racism’ licenses ‘elite’ whites to look down on other members of their own. To that extent working-class whites are akin to those who in the imperial era were knwn as “natives”.

Kevin Henderson
Kevin Henderson
2 years ago
Reply to  Sean L

One of the best analyses of the present predicament of Europe I have read.

William Murphy
William Murphy
2 years ago

The Amish are an amazing example of survival and success in the heart of a totally different society. Be careful not to lump them all under one heading, as there are several categories of Amish embracing different lifestyles and different degrees of technology. And a certain degree of carefully judged flexibility definitely helps.

Their use of technology is based on its impact on the community. In one Amish community in Indiana I was surprised to see an elderly Amish man using an electric wheelchair. But such a wheelchair would merely restore some of his mobility as an able bodied guy and allow him to visit family and friends. A car, in contrast, would allow a whole family to travel way outside the community.

In Ohio, you saw tractors with the huge rear wheels clad with a metal rim – so it could be used on the farm, but not on the road. And, as a farmer, you needed a radio for the weather forecast.

In 1999 you could see Amish ladies in very traditional dress pushing their trolleys in Walmart in Wooster, Ohio. And you could see the ladies driving the horse drawn buggies. This was a recent and major change. Only men drove buggies up to the 1980s.

In Wooster, one of my work colleagues was full of stories about the local Amish. His friend ran a mobile phone shop and the Amish were among his best customers. Apparently, as there was no physical landline into the family home, mobiles were OK. Local Amish youths often ran cars and went drinking at the Best Western in Wooster while their families turned a blind eye. And another colleague was ticked off at Amish drug dealing.

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kathleen carr
kathleen carr
2 years ago
Reply to  William Murphy

I like a town called Wooster. One of the sights of last election was their buggies going off to vote with Amish for Trump signs. I think it was a realization that if the democrats got in , the traditional ( as in European)American way of life was over. Hopefully not.

steve eaton
steve eaton
2 years ago
Reply to  William Murphy

Many Amish sects grant kids in thier late teen years a year where they are allowed to run around, drink liquor, drive cars and live outside the community rules. After this “vacation”, they must decide whether they want to remain in the community or join the outside world. This is genius and explains how they establish inter-generational longevity. The teens who decide to stay (and most do) do so with an informed buy-in and afterwards never have to look back and wonder what the “English” world had to offer and become restless of their choice. So the community likely was not, as your friend suggests, just turning a blind eye but more likely just not interfering with their kids wilding period as is the custom. The Amish are not a cult, you may leave anytime you wish and you must establish an informed consent to stay.

AC Harper
AC Harper
2 years ago

The recent fate of the Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ), and the fate of almost all Kibbutzes of the last century could be a clue…

John Jones
John Jones
2 years ago
Reply to  AC Harper

I lived on a kibbutz in the early ’70’s, and found it to be one of the most interesting experiences of my life. Currently there are 265 kibbutz still operati g, although some of them have moved from agriculture to industrialization. The movement remains strong overall.

David Hughes
David Hughes
2 years ago

It’s gratifying to see a revered icon of black consciousness and anti-colonial resistance commemorated in the name of the commune – the great MC Hammer. They’ll do well to last as long as his musical career.

Joe Donovan
Joe Donovan
2 years ago

Because of its internal contradictions, there is no cohesion within Wokeness even without the pressures of trying to grow your own food etc. Obviously doomed to fail.

Alex Lekas
Alex Lekas
2 years ago

wokeness is ultimately a self-defeating enterprise for two reasons: 1) it never ends. There is no goal beyond forced conformity but no one knows what the rules are. Every other day, something innocuous like punctuality is deemed to be evidence of white supremacy. We have people in positions of authority saying things like “birthing people” with all earnestness. 2) it is the only religion that has no path of redemption. Disagreement with any part of the dogma is equated to heresy and the only apparent remedy is permanent excommunication from society. No volume of apologies is enough; no consideration is given to context or to the “offending” statements being made years ago.

John Jones
John Jones
2 years ago

Years ago my wife and I lived in a kibbutz in the Negev. All property was communal, and the kids were raised communally. It was a great place to live, but we moved on so I could get my Masters in England. The place still exists, but the problem seems to be the intergenerational depletion of participants. The problem is that when boys and girls are raised communally, they see each other as brothers and sisters, not potential mates, so they leave to find lovers and marriage partners.

The irony is that the problem is rooted in evolutionary psychology- humans are reluctant to mate with people they consider siblings. Yet the entire premise of most communitarian endeavours is that humans are the produce of cultural/ social conditioning. The second generation of most communitarian projects demonstrate the absurdity of that belief.

Sean L
Sean L
2 years ago
Reply to  John Jones

If they moved away because the communal social structure led them to see their peers as siblings, unlike a society ordered around the family, then that’s self-evidently ‘the produce of cultural / social conditioning’. Science itself must be the produce of culture, such that for one entity alone nature and its own ‘evolution’ can be an object of knowledge.

James Rowlands
James Rowlands
2 years ago
Reply to  John Jones

“they see each other as brothers and sisters, not potential mates”

I bet that the opportunity of earning money and marrying money was also a “small” factor.

Dan Gleeballs
Dan Gleeballs
2 years ago

Interesting article. I’m only surprised Orwell’s Animal Farm didn’t get a name-check, as it’s all about setting up a farm utopia where the revolutionaries become corrupt.

Anthony Lewis
Anthony Lewis
2 years ago

Risible – hierarchies are required for any decision making process for any group of humans – to deny this is to fly in the face of reality and lived experience through the millennium – over time we have developed effective ways of keeping hierarchies under control – its called democracy, the importance of individual freedom to dissent and disagree, and the importance of checks and balances to any one individuals power preferably with a defined time limit to their tenure. All tried and tested to destruction based on the reality of how humans as social creatures interact with each other where there is limited resources – which is pretty much all the time. As Churchill pointed out democracy is not perfect but its a dman sight better than anything else humanity has come up with to throw one lot out of power and put another lot in without having to go to war. I hope their experience in their commune will help these naive children grow up to become fudctioning adults in the adult world – I live in hope!

Chauncey Gardiner
Chauncey Gardiner
2 years ago

How to sustain utopianism across generations? T’is an old problem. Here are three quasi-remedies that have been implemented:
(1) That one scion of a cotton mill owner (Engels) and his young friend (Marx) found a “scientific” solution in the inevitability of the Socialist chiliasm. Utopia on a society-wide scale was going to come no matter what. Problem solved. The only outstanding problem was to determine whether or not the inevitable revolution would require some active coaxing. By the end of 1848 (with the failure of the 1848 revolutions), Marx came out on the side of active effort — socialist “Terror” as he called it.
(2) One of Robert Owens’s contemporaries (I can’t remember whom right off) had his people physically build a sequence of sites for their Utopian society. Keeping them occupied with an intermediate phase of Utopianism might keep it alive. It worked for a while.
(3) Drink the Kool-Aid! That is, give up on the idea of inter-generational transfer and go out on a high.

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Drahcir Nevarc
Drahcir Nevarc
2 years ago

Black Hammer sounds utterly vile.

Johannes Kreisler
Johannes Kreisler
2 years ago

Nice article, thank you Mary! Enjoyed it.
There’s a deliciously funny link embedded as “first hand accounts”, i laughed my head off: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1GCXg9gDz6LXAyYtMKfkfSMF5pyjGyXvr2jUbEbpMXus/mobilebasic
Copy / paste some of the highlights here (Italics added by me, to highlight the juicier parts):

As a woman in a man’s world I f•••g knew better than to speak up at first, but I was still labelled as the angry black woman. I was accused of being too firey and having bad communication.

My usefulness in the organization was directly linked to how hard I could work. How fast I could scoop buckets of grain. How quickly I could finish a shift and how often I could do solo shifts.

I snapped. I had reached my limit, but so had everyone else. I felt justified in my anger after I lost my partner. I lashed out. […] I was sent on a paid vacation to straighten up and get over the loss of my relationship and try to see past the betrayal I felt. I stopped talking to everyone. I buried my pain in my work when I wasn’t in heated conversations with any one I could get my hands on. I could no longer bear the thought of my partner being happy with someone else. I had an opportunity to breach Chris’ privacy when he gave me the password to his computer and regrettably, I did. I read his personal messages to people I worked with, I saw jokes about muzzling me go unchecked by my coworkers.

I managed to burn all of my bridges with fiery hostility.

[…]

My mother committed an atrocity by calling the cops on my brother and having him committed. I immediately brought him to the farm with the blessing of Chris and Annie with no one else’s consent and started taking care of him. 

[…]

I resented almost everyone around me. After Annie refused to take white supremacy training I still joined. After they had taken unsolicited pictures of protesters in D.C in june i still joined. After the trauma of what I believe to be outright racial discrimination at my first disciplinary hearing with Annie Newman for missing 3 daily zoom calls I still stayed. 

[…]

With a flat pay of 1000 a month coming from the ranch and 1100 flat rate coming from the garden and being paid hourly in the butchery I managed to buy a shitty broke ass truck. […] I was given 8 days to vacate the house in the garden where I had lived from October 2020 to March 2021. Without proper access to a vehicle and no money for a uhaul and a broken down van that had been my home for 3 years. I couldn’t move fast enough. Annie threatened to impound my van.

I unwillingly continued Annie’s narrative that I was combative, unwilling to compromise and I was disrespectful and unprofessional. 

Everything Chris did I saw as a personal attack.

Etc.
To her credit, the rest of her account makes very good valid points about the total utter mismanagement and general cluelessness. Not sure though whether it was entirely the Newman couple’s fault (black bloke, white wife) – both seem to have at least some adequate agricultural knowledge -, but rather of the team’s chaotic ineptitude. Imagine trying to run a working farm with 15 individuals like Xander above…

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Richard Pearse
Richard Pearse
2 years ago

As always, I’m a huge Mary fan, and enjoyed this article. However, What about the communist “utopias” in Russia and China wanting to create the New Man? Or the French Revolution with its ever changing demands for a true “citizen”?

Although I don’t understand the structure of Israeli kibbutzes (which may be an exception?), I think the reason that communities survive is that they do not try to presume away or change basic human nature (alas, in reality, we rarely love our neighbor as ourselves, etc). This is true of the Amish (private property, marriage, rewards for hard work etc) and the Separatists (Pilgrims) in New England (not all members of the community followed the religious doctrines – also, they experimented with communal property but quickly realized that the old fashioned way was the only way to motivate young men to work harder).

Also, if “Black Hammer” forms a kind of government and then excludes “White “ people, they will run afoul of our civil rights laws. Just sayin’ – they may discover that “Whitey” is not necessarily the source of all problems with living in harmony (witness the South Side of Chicago with its gang-slayings of each other and innocent bystanders). Just sayin’.

peter lucey
peter lucey
2 years ago

Surprised no-one has mentioned Jonestown… That utopian eco-community did’nt end well

Frederick B
Frederick B
2 years ago

How can such a community survive its first generation of enthusiasts? Mary Harrington tells us how the Amish and the Mormons have done it – through their own strong and idiosyncratic versions of the Christian faith.
Could a secular faith have the same generational strength? If so, what is the secular faith behind Black Hammer? If it is racialism – Black racialism – it might have that strength; racialism shares with religious faith the belief that past, present and future generations form a continuum. Black Hammer might turn out to be a black version of South Africa’s Orania. Time will tell.

Kathy Prendergast
Kathy Prendergast
2 years ago
Reply to  Frederick B

They don’t have a chance. For one thing, the land there is not arable enough for them to ever grow enough food to be self-sustaining, even if they all work like packhorses and have enough people with the requisite skills, which is doubtful.
They should really consider, as an alternative, moving to Ghana (Seriously; the Ghanaian government actually invited African Americans to relocate there, and offered them land). At least things will grow in Ghana, and they won’t freeze to death in the winter if they fail to build adequate shelters in time. But I suspect they never will, because they don’t want to give up the benefits of American citizenship. Who would?

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Jez O'Meara
Jez O'Meara
2 years ago

They wont go to Ghana because that would be a step too far for the majority, the minority that believes in all of this would be missing out on their point…to disrupt the society that they can easily fall back on with open arms of forgiveness in case things fail.

Sean L
Sean L
2 years ago

Africa would deprive them of their identity / scapegoat.

Mark H
Mark H
2 years ago
Reply to  Frederick B

Very good point about the parallel with Orania! One significant diffference is that Orania is _very_ exclusive in its vision, being for white Afrikaners only – and therefore much more homogenous than Hammerland. On the other other hand I think there is high tolerance for ideological diversity in Orania – non-racists are tolerated as long as they are Afrikaner non-racists…

Chauncey Gardiner
Chauncey Gardiner
2 years ago
Reply to  Frederick B

But are these societies “Utopian”, or are they just societies? More pointedly: Are we establishing a correspondence between Utopianism and the absence of private property.
Mormons and Mennonites (of which the Amish are a subset) believe in private property. One can argue that property rights make it easier to members of society to realize mutually-advantageous exchange.

Rick Sharona
Rick Sharona
2 years ago

Q. How do you keep an Amish woman happy?

A. 2 Mennonite

Annette Kralendijk
Annette Kralendijk
2 years ago

There’s little new about cults like these. They come and they go. People grow out of utopia fantasies.

Geoff H
Geoff H
2 years ago

Probably looks good on paper down the pub. The reality is always different.

Val Todorov
Val Todorov
2 years ago

The reports of the imminent failure of utopias are greatly exaggerated…
According to the Foundation for Intentional Community there are around 100,000 individuals residing in such communities at the moment. The number of intentional communities listed in the FIC’s directory nearly doubled between 2010 and 2016 to roughly 1,200. And since FIC is an American-based foundation and many communities do not care to list there (or anywhere), the real numbers are probably much higher. https://www.ic.org
Also, there is the Global Ecovillage Network (GEN). It is composed of 5 regional networks. The network is made up of approximately 10,000 communities and related projects where people are living together in greater ecological harmony. GEN builds bridges between policy-makers, governments, NGOs, academics, entrepreneurs, activists, community networks and ecologically-minded individuals across the globe in order to develop strategies for a global transition to resilient communities and cultures (according to their site). https://ecovillage.org
I personally spent years in shooting video material for a documentary in many intentional communities in the USA and Europe. I can testify that the best of them are actually quite successful and long-lived attempts at Utopia. The quality of life in them is significantly higher than what the majority of the people on Earth can hope for.
These are the best intentional communities I personally visited. They are very successful experiments, not failures.
Twin Oaks (exists for 54 years) https://www.twinoaks.org
Findhorn (exists for 59 years) https://www.ecovillagefindhorn.com
Tamera (exists for 26 years) https://www.tamera.org
Damanhur (exists for 46 years) https://damanhur.org/en/
Los Portales (exists for 37 years) http://www.losportales.net

Walter Lantz
Walter Lantz
2 years ago

Interesting article.
I would say your example of Amish/Mennonite success makes the point that no matter how much a group of people are drawn together by a common ideology there must still be a governing authority above the group that everyone must respect. For the Amish it is their interpretation of the word of God. Some Amish also appreciate that not all humans are the same and their youth experience Rumspringa so they can question if the lifestyle works for them thus reducing the need to force malcontents and non-believers into submission.
Utopias cobbled together by the like-minded often aren’t sustainable because simply un-inviting people you don’t want isn’t enough. Without a ‘supreme authority’ the community ends up following the Golden Rule: He who has the gold, makes the rules, which is fertile soil for destructive human tendencies such as greed and envy.

J. Hale
J. Hale
2 years ago

So Hammer City is going to be a racially segregated town. I guess they never heard of the Fair Housing Act. It’s been the law over 50 years.

Adrian Smith
Adrian Smith
2 years ago

The reason why utopias fail is because all people are different and even if you take a seemingly similar group and cocoon it the group will all have different ideas of what utopia really should be. Utopia is a myth, sadly dystopia is no myth and the Woke movement is just the latest in a long line of groups with their own idea of what utopia should be who are hell bent on turning the world into a dystopia.

Kat L
Kat L
2 years ago

Here’s a thought for the separatists…Liberia.

Kevin Henderson
Kevin Henderson
2 years ago

Looking at the state of the West with its declining birthrates, and atheist and esoteric beliefs, it seems like there is some evolutionary advantage for societies which have strong religion with rewards and sanctions. Feminism, wokeism, individualism will abolish themselves when their proponents fail to reproduce.

Martin Tuite
Martin Tuite
2 years ago

The reason why communes fail is that people like to own stuff.

andrew harman
andrew harman
2 years ago

I think a distinction needs to be drawn between a religious Utopia, which sees perfection as unattainable in this world and woke or leftist visions, which believe that humanity is perfectible all by itself, given the chance. Personally I do not believe in either and I think we should actually celebrate our imperfections.

Jonathan Smith
Jonathan Smith
2 years ago

Anyone remember the Jesus People in Northamptonshire?

kathleen carr
kathleen carr
2 years ago
Reply to  Jonathan Smith

Apparently still there. We generally managed to persuade our various cults , such as the Shakers that they would be happier elsewhere.

kathleen carr
kathleen carr
2 years ago
Reply to  kathleen carr

Considering that the majority of the population of our former colonies are composed of people we didn’t want and ( because of the distance) never expected to see again they have done very well.

Steve Gwynne
Steve Gwynne
2 years ago

Excellent piece. I’m liking this religious/spiritual angle and how it feeds into sustainability, resilience and sufficiency especially in terms of the balance between unity and diversity.

It begs the question, would a new religion of Oneness provide the same kind of solidarity and unity that underpins Christian, Judaist and Islamic communities.

https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/beautiful-minds/what-would-happen-if-everyone-truly-believed-everything-is-one/
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/04/190411101803.htm

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oneness_Pentecostalism#:~:text=It%20derives%20its%20distinctive%20name,%2C%20Son%2C%20and%20Holy%20Spirit.

Regarding the inherently non-unity and dualistic (pro-black anti-white) Black Hammer commune, its implosion due to the masochistic tendencies that drive the purity spiral will no doubt be blamed on internalised structural racism.

Peter Mott
Peter Mott
2 years ago

Jonathan Haidt’s “The Righteous Mind” confirms that the Liberal ethic based on Care for others is not sufficient to maintain communities. Individualism and self-fulfilment are not enough. You need ideas of Loyalty, Authority, and a conception of the Sacred as well. Religious communities have these.

Kremlington Swan
Kremlington Swan
2 years ago

It won’t succeed. The members are innately hostile. They may share hostility towards people like me, but once the excuses for failure are removed then there will be nobody left to blame but themselves, and this commune will implode.

Ingrid Nozahic
Ingrid Nozahic
2 years ago

Did anyone else silent sing to themselves “it’s hammer time”

Harold Porter
Harold Porter
2 years ago

Perhaps the common factor in successful communes is more precise than merely ‘religious belief’. Perhaps it’s a specific belief in the ‘fallen nature of humans’ – that humans are the problem, not just the system. Hence for a commune to work it must take into account the common folly and errors of people.
Aside: A whole host of communes that have been very long lasting, and not mentioned here are monasteries.

Scott Norman Rosenthal
Scott Norman Rosenthal
2 years ago

Black Hammer’s real objective may very well be armed assault on the mainstream.