When I see an article by Julie Bindel I go straight to the comments section – at least they’re generally interesting.
William Gladstone
3 years ago
Why do you always think just in terms of women? You simply don’t see men as human at all do you? I don’t know whether these police were out of order or the security services, probably, but to be honest I get that someone with extreme opinions who dehumanises half of humanity would be considered a potentially genocidal threat to that half of humanity and worth keeping a close eye on.
I have more sympathy for the undercover officers who had to form relationships with women they normally wouldn’t touch with a bargepole, as part of their job description. And for their wives, families, real-life girlfriends who had to put up with it.
the feminists gathered outside the Miss World venue with flour bombs
Does anyone have a link to Ms Bindel expressing even a single word of concern or sympathy about the murder of PCSO James, who worked in the domestic violence unit of Kent police?
Yes it’s reminiscent of “Black Lives Matter (unless they’re shot or about to be stabbed by another person of colour)”.
All about the message hence this article harps back to events of nearly 50 years ago while ignoring a murder which took place within the last two weeks.
All lives matter be they black, white, feminist or PCSO. There’s nothing wrong in believing or saying it.
Yes, why not. The issue of state spying. Period. Perhaps you could ask that same question of the author.
Alex Lekas
3 years ago
Wow. What a disconnect between the headline and sub-head. Are men immune to the abuses of state spying? Seriously? This incessant need to first identity by group status is a societal poison.
You must have not got the memo. Men no longer count.
Vivek Rajkhowa
3 years ago
No mention of the female police officer killed on a walk, in Kent, ms Bindels priorities show up once again.
CHARLES STANHOPE
3 years ago
Great caption photograph. The Sergeant leading from the front, proper stuff. Not a gun or water cannon in sight.
Those were the days! Dixon of Dock Green at his best.
It total contrast to today, where our and for that matters the US Riot Police resemble the Waffen-SS
They also did not tolerate lots of American, British, Canadian and Soviet POWs they captured, preferring to kill them instead. Then there were “pacification” campaigns…
The body armor and other personal protective equipment is worn to help make sure that the cops can go home in one piece at the end of their tours. If you are having nightly scrums with Antifa, you either gear up or get beat up; sometimes both.
I fully agree, however it is striking how the steel helmet (or whatever it is made of today) resembles the ‘coal scuttle’ helmet of the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS don’t you think?
Chris Stapleton
3 years ago
Because she isn’t actually interested in any of that investigative journalism guff.
Chris Stapleton
3 years ago
I see that Binders is described amongst other things as “an investigative journalist“. Personally, I think she is a man-hating obsessive, a record that got stuck decades ago. All she ever sees is abuse…. against women, and her forthcoming book is called Feminism for Women:…. etc. In other words it’s all about women. She would only ever be content in a world populated only by women. Mad, sad and malign. Get a life.
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Kremlington Swan
3 years ago
I’m not against the idea of police surveillance and infiltration in principle – for a start `I think it is the only reason bombs are not going off all over the place – I just question the priorities.
Since when was the women’s liberation movement a threat comparable to male dominated political movements that veered toward extremism?
I have never heard of women only groups derailing trains, driving trucks into crowds or setting off bombs with little or no warning.
I dare say such a thing is possible, but the balance of probability is surely that it is very unlikely.
So I would not only agree with the idea that is constitutes an abuse of power, but also that is constitutes a misallocation of precious resources.
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Waldo Warbler
3 years ago
“But was she really a danger to national security? Definitely not, [she] claims…”
Oh, well if she claims she wasn’t, then she can’t have been…
#believewomen (no matter what or when)
Simon Neale
3 years ago
Reports submitted to SDS by Sandra and other undercover officers confirm this. But they don’t show the police in an exemplary light. They expose some deeply offensive attitudes
Undercover officers in the 1970s have been found to use antisemitic and homophobic language to one another?
Forty to fifty years ago, but it is only coming to light now.
At this rate, an undercover cop with Nazi regalia in his locker yesterday might not be discussed until the year 2071
B B
2 years ago
What an odd article. Fails even to consider why the police took the actions they did, as if they did it for no reason. Seems to think watching someone is a major thing almost the same as arresting or assaulting them. Avoids even mentioning men, except as bad guys.
I come here for articles by journalists, not by activists pretending to be journalists – if I wanted that I’d go to The Guardian.
When I see an article by Julie Bindel I go straight to the comments section – at least they’re generally interesting.
Why do you always think just in terms of women? You simply don’t see men as human at all do you? I don’t know whether these police were out of order or the security services, probably, but to be honest I get that someone with extreme opinions who dehumanises half of humanity would be considered a potentially genocidal threat to that half of humanity and worth keeping a close eye on.
Well said.
I have more sympathy for the undercover officers who had to form relationships with women they normally wouldn’t touch with a bargepole, as part of their job description. And for their wives, families, real-life girlfriends who had to put up with it.
???
Since when is it OK to flourbomb the public?
https://www.spiked-online.com/2021/05/05/where-is-the-outrage-over-julia-james-murder/
Does anyone have a link to Ms Bindel expressing even a single word of concern or sympathy about the murder of PCSO James, who worked in the domestic violence unit of Kent police?
I will apologise should this be the case.
Bindel probablt doesn’t consider PcSO james be the right sort of woman.
Yes it’s reminiscent of “Black Lives Matter (unless they’re shot or about to be stabbed by another person of colour)”.
All about the message hence this article harps back to events of nearly 50 years ago while ignoring a murder which took place within the last two weeks.
All lives matter be they black, white, feminist or PCSO. There’s nothing wrong in believing or saying it.
Exactly.
Although she did write an Unherd article excusing serial killer Aileen Wuornos, & trying to frame her as a victim of men
I’m not surprised
Whataboutery. Why not focus on the actual issue.
Yes, why not. The issue of state spying. Period. Perhaps you could ask that same question of the author.
Wow. What a disconnect between the headline and sub-head. Are men immune to the abuses of state spying? Seriously? This incessant need to first identity by group status is a societal poison.
You must have not got the memo. Men no longer count.
No mention of the female police officer killed on a walk, in Kent, ms Bindels priorities show up once again.
Great caption photograph. The Sergeant leading from the front, proper stuff. Not a gun or water cannon in sight.
Those were the days! Dixon of Dock Green at his best.
It total contrast to today, where our and for that matters the US Riot Police resemble the Waffen-SS
the Waffen SS would not have tolerated the billions in damage or the dozens of deaths that resulted from the rioting.
They also did not tolerate lots of American, British, Canadian and Soviet POWs they captured, preferring to kill them instead. Then there were “pacification” campaigns…
The body armor and other personal protective equipment is worn to help make sure that the cops can go home in one piece at the end of their tours. If you are having nightly scrums with Antifa, you either gear up or get beat up; sometimes both.
I fully agree, however it is striking how the steel helmet (or whatever it is made of today) resembles the ‘coal scuttle’ helmet of the Wehrmacht and Waffen SS don’t you think?
Because she isn’t actually interested in any of that investigative journalism guff.
I see that Binders is described amongst other things as “an investigative journalist“. Personally, I think she is a man-hating obsessive, a record that got stuck decades ago. All she ever sees is abuse…. against women, and her forthcoming book is called Feminism for Women:…. etc. In other words it’s all about women. She would only ever be content in a world populated only by women. Mad, sad and malign. Get a life.
I’m not against the idea of police surveillance and infiltration in principle – for a start `I think it is the only reason bombs are not going off all over the place – I just question the priorities.
Since when was the women’s liberation movement a threat comparable to male dominated political movements that veered toward extremism?
I have never heard of women only groups derailing trains, driving trucks into crowds or setting off bombs with little or no warning.
I dare say such a thing is possible, but the balance of probability is surely that it is very unlikely.
So I would not only agree with the idea that is constitutes an abuse of power, but also that is constitutes a misallocation of precious resources.
“But was she really a danger to national security? Definitely not, [she] claims…”
Oh, well if she claims she wasn’t, then she can’t have been…
#believewomen (no matter what or when)
Undercover officers in the 1970s have been found to use antisemitic and homophobic language to one another?
Gad! Something must be done, and quick!
Forty to fifty years ago, but it is only coming to light now.
At this rate, an undercover cop with Nazi regalia in his locker yesterday might not be discussed until the year 2071
What an odd article. Fails even to consider why the police took the actions they did, as if they did it for no reason. Seems to think watching someone is a major thing almost the same as arresting or assaulting them. Avoids even mentioning men, except as bad guys.