The redesign has prompted a level of culture-war reaction out of all proportion…
That could apply to just about everything today, not just a cartoon redesign. The need to find perpetual grievance is, well, perpetual. It is a blessing to not be part of this miserable cohort.
Mike Boosh
3 years ago
Wait until the male equivalent of the rampant rabbit gets invented. Once realistic affordable VR and s*xbots become available men won’t be leaving the house either, and women may look back fondly on those days when they received attention at all. The feminist cause will need to find a new focus then. An interesting side effect is that the human race may well become extinct or at the very least greatly reduced in number.
“Once realistic affordable VR and s*xbots become available…..”
To be honest, they don’t even need to do that. As long as they can make a sandwich, fetch a beer and keep quiet while the football’s on the robot manufacturers are onto a winner.
“We can blame it partly on lockdown, which effectively banned sex between anyone not cohabiting.”
Banning something does not prevent it. Even some of the “banners” were not immune to booty calls. If anyone actually believes that young, single people did without sex since last March unless they live together, well, let’s not be naive.
Given that any man can be on the receiving end of an unsubstantiated claim of sexual misconduct and can lose a university place or indeed a career on the basis of a simple accusation why would men put themselves in such a risky position?
And women are surprised with the growth of MGTOW.
Sorry, ut can you unpack MGTOW please? Just wanted to say that the negative impact on ‘flirtation and desire’ is one of the reasons that prominent French women spoke out against the MeToo movement.
If you’re asking what MGTOW means:
If your browser’s set up anything like mine, right click on the offending gobbledygook, and choose Search Google for “MGTOW”.
If that doesn’t work, it’s apparently “Men Going Their Own Way, an anti-feminist, misogynistic, mostly online community advocating for men to separate themselves from women and from a society which they believe has been destroyed by feminism.”
Exactly. Something else in the article called my attention: The notion that “modern” women see no problem in monetizing access to their beauty.
Akin to prostitution, this attitude leaves little room for the possibility that women may actually like sex by itself – and contributes massively to modern males’ growing disconnection between their own libido and real world, flesh & blood females.
Between the wholesale demonization of male libido (#MeToo, etc.) and the monetization described above, sensible young men see no hope in believing that their libidos can find honest reciprocity. No wonder there is so much anticipation for the progress of the AI sex industry.
Are you seriously asking that? You can probably figure out why they do it. But your point that any man is vulnerable to any accusation from any woman is valid. And in the US it’s going to get worse as men lose the right to defend themselves on college campuses. Trump restored equal justice to accused men on campuses but it looks like Biden will be rolling that those rights back. Very sad, but people knew this when they voted for him.
Robert Forde
3 years ago
Every time there’s a change in society, evidence-free commentators pile in to blame it on something or other. I am astonished that no one has speculated (and I admit that’s what it is) on the impact of reliable contraception for women in the 1960s. Before this, the randier we were, the more likely we were to produce offspring. Yes, there was contraception, but not anything like as reliable. Statistically, unreliable contraception means there will be quite frequent failures. Reliable contraception means we can choose more reliably whether to conceive or not. And that means overall randiness is a much less significant factor.
In short, how randy we are no longer affects fertility significantly. That must have consequences, because evolution works like that: activities that don’t favour reproduction get evolved out of a population, and much faster than we used to think. So, if millennials have less sex than their forebears, this may not be because they are sitting at home absorbed in self-stimulation (there’s no evolutionary advantage in that, after all). It may simply mean that we can reliably reproduce while having sex much less often, and sex drive is therefore diminishing. There must be consequences.
The below replacement level birth rate could be one of the consequences we are seeing of societies with such recreational opportunity paired with diminished incentive and desire for parenthood. It may well be that sort of society and people that get evolved out.
Interesting speculation, but don’t people do things despite their evolutionary disadvantage? You could say that evolution’s current is leaving behind the men who haven’t the willpower to refrain from this new digitised non-reproductive sexuality. Who knows?
From what I know of my generation I think it pretty likely that they (we) are absorbed in self-stimulation given what’s constantly on offer as soon as an urge arises. Something else to resist/sacrifice for the sake of meaning/depth down the line. Just because there’s no evolutionary advantage to porn-centric masturbation doesn’t mean it isn’t alarmingly common.
Jonathan Barker
3 years ago
Speaking of Rabbits and the paradoxical and unpredictable nature of reality perhaps the first step could/should be is for everyone to go down the (quantum) Rabbit Hole with Alice.
It could be said that Lewis Carroll was one of the first postmodernist philosophers.
Cave Artist
3 years ago
I thought the headline said rabbis. Very confused…
Scott Carson
3 years ago
This prediction of a hormonal tidal wave post-lockdown is frankly terrifying. Perhaps we should administer a shot of bromide with every Covid vaccination?
They probably already are, along with who knows what else 😉
Last edited 3 years ago by Mike Boosh
Stephen Griffiths
3 years ago
Maybe the religions that advocate having children and see them as a blessing will be the winners here.
Peter KE
3 years ago
The woke world is evil and an attempt to destroy our society by left wing anarchist and thugs.
Ian Perkins
3 years ago
I did a Google image search to find out what Jessica Rabbit and Lola Bunny actually look like, and unless I’ve made some weird error, Lola Bunny doesn’t appear particularly rabbit-like, and Jessica Rabbit not the slightest bit cunicular.
Can anyone more familiar with the world of cartoons explain this?
Thank you. I’m still at a bit of a loss as to why two such non-rabbit-like cartoon characters generate such a hoo-ha about rabbits, and I won’t even ask what a ‘toon is!
I had wondered. So all this fuss around Jessica is purely about her name?
How many of us are likely to be hauled up before the thought police for culturally inappropriate and politically incorrect surnames? Jonathan Barker for instance – what grounds for termination with extreme prejudice might a warrior wokeist find in that name?
Last edited 3 years ago by Ian Perkins
Karen Jemmett
3 years ago
Funny, I just ran a find search and couldn’t see any reference to ‘love’ in this article. Perhaps that explains the absence of the March Bunny?!
Liberals do not connect sex and love anymore. They are stand alone concepts.
David Brown
3 years ago
Having followed the article’s link to a piece about the Lola Bunny redesign, it’s not only her silhouette and clothing that have changed: her face has too. I’m sure that this is not the intention, but it seems to me that she has simply done what we all have since the first film was released. She has aged twenty-five years.
The redesign has prompted a level of culture-war reaction out of all proportion…
That could apply to just about everything today, not just a cartoon redesign. The need to find perpetual grievance is, well, perpetual. It is a blessing to not be part of this miserable cohort.
Wait until the male equivalent of the rampant rabbit gets invented. Once realistic affordable VR and s*xbots become available men won’t be leaving the house either, and women may look back fondly on those days when they received attention at all. The feminist cause will need to find a new focus then. An interesting side effect is that the human race may well become extinct or at the very least greatly reduced in number.
“Once realistic affordable VR and s*xbots become available…..”
To be honest, they don’t even need to do that. As long as they can make a sandwich, fetch a beer and keep quiet while the football’s on the robot manufacturers are onto a winner.
“Why do men have backbones?”
Population collapse, indeed.
“We can blame it partly on lockdown, which effectively banned sex between anyone not cohabiting.”
Banning something does not prevent it. Even some of the “banners” were not immune to booty calls. If anyone actually believes that young, single people did without sex since last March unless they live together, well, let’s not be naive.
Last March? This has been going on for a year and is still going.
Which part of the UK are you in exactly? The Isle of Man?
Uh, last March was a year ago.
Even in the Isle of Man?
I don’t know. Never been there. Maybe google?
Anybody that law-abiding and timid probably wasn’t getting laid before the lockdown anyway.
Excellent point!
Given that any man can be on the receiving end of an unsubstantiated claim of sexual misconduct and can lose a university place or indeed a career on the basis of a simple accusation why would men put themselves in such a risky position?
And women are surprised with the growth of MGTOW.
Sorry, ut can you unpack MGTOW please? Just wanted to say that the negative impact on ‘flirtation and desire’ is one of the reasons that prominent French women spoke out against the MeToo movement.
If you’re asking what MGTOW means:
If your browser’s set up anything like mine, right click on the offending gobbledygook, and choose Search Google for “MGTOW”.
If that doesn’t work, it’s apparently “Men Going Their Own Way, an anti-feminist, misogynistic, mostly online community advocating for men to separate themselves from women and from a society which they believe has been destroyed by feminism.”
So the reverse of “a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle”?
Exactly. Something else in the article called my attention: The notion that “modern” women see no problem in monetizing access to their beauty.
Akin to prostitution, this attitude leaves little room for the possibility that women may actually like sex by itself – and contributes massively to modern males’ growing disconnection between their own libido and real world, flesh & blood females.
Between the wholesale demonization of male libido (#MeToo, etc.) and the monetization described above, sensible young men see no hope in believing that their libidos can find honest reciprocity. No wonder there is so much anticipation for the progress of the AI sex industry.
Are you seriously asking that? You can probably figure out why they do it. But your point that any man is vulnerable to any accusation from any woman is valid. And in the US it’s going to get worse as men lose the right to defend themselves on college campuses. Trump restored equal justice to accused men on campuses but it looks like Biden will be rolling that those rights back. Very sad, but people knew this when they voted for him.
Every time there’s a change in society, evidence-free commentators pile in to blame it on something or other. I am astonished that no one has speculated (and I admit that’s what it is) on the impact of reliable contraception for women in the 1960s. Before this, the randier we were, the more likely we were to produce offspring. Yes, there was contraception, but not anything like as reliable. Statistically, unreliable contraception means there will be quite frequent failures. Reliable contraception means we can choose more reliably whether to conceive or not. And that means overall randiness is a much less significant factor.
In short, how randy we are no longer affects fertility significantly. That must have consequences, because evolution works like that: activities that don’t favour reproduction get evolved out of a population, and much faster than we used to think. So, if millennials have less sex than their forebears, this may not be because they are sitting at home absorbed in self-stimulation (there’s no evolutionary advantage in that, after all). It may simply mean that we can reliably reproduce while having sex much less often, and sex drive is therefore diminishing. There must be consequences.
The below replacement level birth rate could be one of the consequences we are seeing of societies with such recreational opportunity paired with diminished incentive and desire for parenthood. It may well be that sort of society and people that get evolved out.
Interesting speculation, but don’t people do things despite their evolutionary disadvantage? You could say that evolution’s current is leaving behind the men who haven’t the willpower to refrain from this new digitised non-reproductive sexuality. Who knows?
From what I know of my generation I think it pretty likely that they (we) are absorbed in self-stimulation given what’s constantly on offer as soon as an urge arises. Something else to resist/sacrifice for the sake of meaning/depth down the line. Just because there’s no evolutionary advantage to porn-centric masturbation doesn’t mean it isn’t alarmingly common.
Speaking of Rabbits and the paradoxical and unpredictable nature of reality perhaps the first step could/should be is for everyone to go down the (quantum) Rabbit Hole with Alice.
It could be said that Lewis Carroll was one of the first postmodernist philosophers.
I thought the headline said rabbis. Very confused…
This prediction of a hormonal tidal wave post-lockdown is frankly terrifying. Perhaps we should administer a shot of bromide with every Covid vaccination?
They probably already are, along with who knows what else 😉
Maybe the religions that advocate having children and see them as a blessing will be the winners here.
The woke world is evil and an attempt to destroy our society by left wing anarchist and thugs.
I did a Google image search to find out what Jessica Rabbit and Lola Bunny actually look like, and unless I’ve made some weird error, Lola Bunny doesn’t appear particularly rabbit-like, and Jessica Rabbit not the slightest bit cunicular.
Can anyone more familiar with the world of cartoons explain this?
Jessica Rabbit took her husband Roger’s surname. She is a ‘toon, but not a rabbit one.
I agree Lola is weirdly anthropomorphic (knees?), but she’s got the characteristic long ears and scut.
Thank you. I’m still at a bit of a loss as to why two such non-rabbit-like cartoon characters generate such a hoo-ha about rabbits, and I won’t even ask what a ‘toon is!
Toon = cartoon.
I had wondered. So all this fuss around Jessica is purely about her name?
How many of us are likely to be hauled up before the thought police for culturally inappropriate and politically incorrect surnames? Jonathan Barker for instance – what grounds for termination with extreme prejudice might a warrior wokeist find in that name?
Funny, I just ran a find search and couldn’t see any reference to ‘love’ in this article. Perhaps that explains the absence of the March Bunny?!
Liberals do not connect sex and love anymore. They are stand alone concepts.
Having followed the article’s link to a piece about the Lola Bunny redesign, it’s not only her silhouette and clothing that have changed: her face has too. I’m sure that this is not the intention, but it seems to me that she has simply done what we all have since the first film was released. She has aged twenty-five years.