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Joe Francis
Joe Francis
3 years ago

Hmmm…barmy ideas about AIDS in the 1980s, neanderthal panic. Scepticism about the massive reaction to Covid in the 2020s, you’re a granny murderer.

stephen f.
stephen f.
3 years ago
Reply to  Joe Francis

Never forget that Dr. Fauci helped the AIDS panic along by stating that it was possible to spread through casual contact in the home…

Fraser Bailey
Fraser Bailey
3 years ago
Reply to  stephen f.

Did he really? Very interesting. So, like a lot of these people, he has been wrong about everything forever. Neil Ferguson is, of course, another of these people.

Derek M
Derek M
3 years ago

This particular TV dramatist has been subjecting the population to his obsessions, promiscuous homosexuality and left wing propaganda, for years often on the taxpayer funded BBC. It’s not very relevant to most people. The 1980s were certainly very different for me but then if you’re a working class, heterosexual non-metropolitan provincial you can’t expect the BBC to be interested (with the possible exception of left wing activists I suppose)

hughallen188
hughallen188
3 years ago
Reply to  Derek M

It’s on Channel 4, not the BBC.

Ralph Windsor
Ralph Windsor
3 years ago
Reply to  hughallen188

C4 is also in the public sector, despite the advertising.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
3 years ago
Reply to  Derek M

I’m gay and switched it off after 20 minutes, I found it rather repulsive if I’m being honest. My long term partner remarked it on being something else on TV for straights to hate us for. So much for promoting the cause I suppose.

Stephen Collins
Stephen Collins
3 years ago

So in a nutshell, they’ve remade Longtime Companion?

Jonathan Jones
Jonathan Jones
3 years ago

Yes, exactly. Longtime Companion with more attention-seeking.

David Waring
David Waring
3 years ago

Why was anyone surprised about this as UK and US males were warned about where they dipped their wicks as long ago as WWII?

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
3 years ago

As a gay man a straight male friend once said to me ‘Most people haven’t got anything against you gays but do you have to keep sticking it down our throats all the time?” … Freudian slip excluded I know exactly what he meant; I too have been thinking the same for some time regarding the ever more politically motivated fanatical trans community. ‘Hannah with the banner’ as another old friend used to say

Jonathan Smith
Jonathan Smith
3 years ago

I hope he hasn’t missed the opportunity to get the ‘s***k bunnies’ in there. In very early research, before HIV (or HTLV3 as it was then called) was identified, one group of scientists attempted to induce immunodeficiency in rabbits by injecting semen into their rectums.

J J
J J
3 years ago

There is enough hysteria on both sides of the argument. It’s a mistake to think one side have a monopoly. The left, as usual, use their favourite tool of ‘moral hysteria’ and a sense of self congratulationary self righteousness. They whip up the notion the ‘powerful’ want to put profits before people by keeping the economy going at the expense of our health and even our lives. Anyone who disagrees is part of this powerful class or too uneducated to understand their true interests (as the Marxists use to say, they lack class consciousness).

On the right we hear notions of ‘the pandemic has been caused by the Elites to control the population and is being headed by the WEF / WHO’. Elites is a blanket term where the user can insert their most hated group of people (globalists, communists, capitalists, liberal elite, fascists, etc). Evidence cannot be provided as it’s being hidden by the Elites. Any counter evidence must be refuted as it’s simply lies propagated by the elites.

In a sense, both accusations are very similar. Both believe the pandemic is something the ‘powerful’ are doing to the ‘powerless’. They embrace the victim / oppressor narrative. Any counter evidence is dismissed as corrupt. They are self contained belief systems that cannot be challenged.

We need to disregard those who claim they ‘know the answer’ and anyone who claims their opponents are immoral or idiots. Judging by the comments, that includes a lot of people on here.

J A Thompson
J A Thompson
3 years ago

Davies is a mixed bag. His restoration of Dr Who was miraculous. The plotting was intelligent and the ‘solutions’ to the dilemmas involved genuine thought, not just the waving of a screwdriver’, cleverly catered to an intelligent adult market (me, of course) without losing the children.
Years and Years’ was watchable despite some characters (those in power) being so obviously rather fatuous caricatures of people he did not like.
On the evidence presented here, his new work looks like propaganda for Covid project fear with more unneeded propaganda for the vociferous end of the LBGetc brigade. Rather surprised he has not worked a critical Trump analogy into it. (Not seen it, maybe he has!)
Oh, and his pronouncement on gay actors for gay roles( has anyone checked the cast list for this production – mind you, I am sure it will be on message), for how long has a myriad of gay actors been portraying (very) straight roles?

joe.stafford
joe.stafford
3 years ago
Reply to  J A Thompson

What on earth are you talking about? This was filmed before coronavirus was even known about in the west, let alone its spread. Take your tin foil hat off.

J A Thompson
J A Thompson
3 years ago
Reply to  joe.stafford

No need to be rude. I was, as it happens, unaware that it had been filmed prior to Covid, but the fact that it may be unintentional does not change my opinion that it looks like a project fear ad for Covid.

Richard Powell
Richard Powell
3 years ago
Reply to  J A Thompson

If you’d read the article before commenting on it, you’d have been aware that It’s a Sin was filmed pre-Covid.

J A Thompson
J A Thompson
3 years ago
Reply to  Richard Powell

OK. My bad. Did not read right through. Still has no effect on my opinion of what it looks like.

Peter Ashby
Peter Ashby
3 years ago

Science gave Hoyle and Wickmanasinghe their needed comeuppance when shortly after their idea that seasonal flu (Northern Hemisphere variety only note) was brought by a seasonal cometary shower it was demonstrated absolutely that seasonal flu is cooked up between fowl, wild or domestic and pigs before jumping to us.

In response China has taken the production of both out of small scale farms where they are often farmed together and put them into high intensity, indoor facilities where contagion from outside can be controlled.

We cannot much fault them for not taking action on seasonal flu by seeking to remove the main incubators. Well done China.

Beware of scientists opining outside of our areas of expertise. Neither is a biologist let alone a virologist or epidemiologist. Both were astronomers.

Ralph Windsor
Ralph Windsor
3 years ago
Reply to  Peter Ashby

Fred Hoyle also wrote SF (notably The Black Cloud) and non-fiction (Ice, written around 1980 and forecasting a new ice age – St Greta would not have approved!).

Peter Ashby
Peter Ashby
3 years ago

Indeed the UK is doing it’s bit too. All domestic fowl have been ordered inside due to bird flu having been detected in wild birds. While we have been in Covid lockdown they have been in flu lockdown.

I’ve been helping fee some. Their keepers take my spent brewing grains off me gratis and I’m told the chooks like it a lot. 4-5kg of grain fills a lot of organic rubbish bags.

Doug Pingel
Doug Pingel
3 years ago
Reply to  Peter Ashby

Cluck, Cluck, Hic?

Sorry – Couldn’t get it out of my head any other way.

Derek M
Derek M
3 years ago

“has sex with eight men in two minutes” so remind me again why aids became so common amongst homosexuals

Alex Tickell
Alex Tickell
3 years ago

Another defence of homosexuality. The acceptance and promotion of which has led to the crazy society we see melting around us.

stephen f.
stephen f.
3 years ago
Reply to  Alex Tickell

Most adults do not care what goes on between adults (as long as it’s non-violent) behind closed doors, in the privacy of their own quarters…the real problem with this issue, and many other pet leftist causes, is not so much acceptance and promotion, as it is the absolute demand that you accept it on their terms…that you must not merely accept, but must celebrate it, or you are a-homophobe/misogynist/anti-immigrant…fill in the blank.

Andrew Thompson
Andrew Thompson
3 years ago
Reply to  Alex Tickell

Like the old song sang: “It started with a kiss, never thought it would lead to this”

Andrew Fisher
Andrew Fisher
3 years ago

Interesting that some of the comments demonstrate such disapproval, even in the 2020s! I suppose I agree that showing gay sex suggestively if not explicitly is likely to be a minority taste. Actually the scenes are very short, unambiguously showing the characters having sex but not dwelling too long on it (or at least each example of it..) and it is very much related with the plot. This contrasts with all too many dramas in which (heterosexual) copulation takes place, often acrobatically against a wall or on a desk) which seem to be there simply to spice up proceedings.

The writer is showing the reality of (some) gay men’s lives. I came out in that period, though the characters seem (so far) to have been having a lot more fun than I had! There were always those very sexually confident people who had a lot of sex but also a lot of more inhibited or diffident, or even would-be monogamous people.

Anyway, as of course we will find out, eventually the fun stopped because of AIDS which will be increasingly the main core of the drama. I thought the hospital scene with the moustachioed chap who worked in Saville Row was excellent and realistic – I have some experience. It also actually managed to avoid having a black nurse or doctor acting in a heroic way, which I was half expecting to happen!

Russell T Davies is in my view a talented and entertaining writer, though with his (rather belated) insistence on gay actors playing gay roles, becoming a bit too ‘woke’. Ultimately this attitude challenges the whole concept of ‘acting’. A young gay person today will in any case have a very different outlook and experiences from one in the early 1980s.

I agree that there is a tendency of our public broadcasters to show more ‘metropolitan’ or fashionable causes or communities. We used to have a very strong TV tradition focussing on white working class lives. Now where it is done it is too obviously far-left in its attitudes. For example when has there been a sympathetic portrayal of Brexit supporters? Russell Davies completely failed in that in his ‘Years and Years’.

However, one or two of the critical comments below seem to verge towards the dreaded term ‘relevance’ – this is often of course what many left-wing critics bang on about. If we can only watch drama of direct relevance to our own lives, what ultimately is its point?

Anyway you don’t have to watch it, and we will see in the longer term how successful our public broadcasters are being in commissioning and producing drama which the wider population want to watch.

Stephen Follows
Stephen Follows
3 years ago

Why is it relevant that Buckingham University is privately owned?