A street in Washington near what is now called "Black Lives Matter Plaza". Photo: Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images

It is entirely possible that Congressman Jim Clyburn is the reason Joe Biden is now America’s President-Elect. As Biden’s primary campaign was struggling after terrible showings in Iowa and New Hampshire, Clyburn endorsed Biden for the South Carolina contest, which he went on to win — changing the course of the presidential race, and of history.
As House majority whip, Clyburn is also the most senior African-American man in Congress. But appearing on Meet the Press recently, he spoke out against an unusual target — the slogan chanted by many Democrat and Black Lives Matter activists: “Defund the police”.
The chant had cost Democrats victories in multiple winnable races, he claimed, and had been a source of concern for him and his long-time ally, the civil rights leader Rep. John Lewis, who died this summer. Both of them, he added, had seen the harm that the “burn baby, burn” slogan did to the civil rights movements of the 1960s.
And yet it’s happening again, and it’s not just one slogan. “Defund the police” is joined by catchphrases like “All cops are bastards” or “Kill all TERFs” on the activist Left. All of them worry political leaders, draw fearsome attacks from political opponents, and test horribly with the public.
So why have they become the shibboleths of 2020 — the phrases that must be said to show you’re on the right side of history, or at least the right side of the fight? It’s certainly not because most people using the slogans mean them literally, or at least that’s what most people who use them say.
“Defund the police” is a shorthand for a movement to transfer budgets for services such as mental health, homelessness and community support away from often hugely bloated and militarised US police forces.
“All cops are bastards” is not, you’ll be told, to be taken literally, but is instead a shorthand to symbolise that under current models of policing it is impossible for good officers to make a difference.
“’Kill all TERFs’,” as one Twitter proponent explained it, “is just a meme and doesn’t wish death upon anyone … it’s about wanting systemic change and how to say that in the most attention grabbing, shortest way possible.”
The downside for these activists apparently set on securing major social change is that this is not what either political opponents or typical voters take the slogans to mean.
In the case of “Defund the police”, Reuters/Ipsos polling found just 33% of registered voters supported the slogan, while 63% opposed it. When presented with the policy package apparently represented by the slogan, 68% supported the reforms and just 30% opposed them. The US public is apparently on board with police reform — they just hate the way it’s being proposed to them.
So what makes otherwise successful and energetic activist campaigns burden themselves with slogans that only harm their cause? There are several potential answers, the simplest being that campaigners may simply be lying when they say they don’t mean their slogan’s literal meaning. By claiming this, they can attempt to get away with threats of violence in public discourse — potentially taunting or intimidating those they oppose while retaining a degree of respectability.
Another explanation is that these kind of slogans are designed to keep fragmenting activist movements united. Some people do literally mean “defund the police” when they say it, just as some mean “all cops are bastards”. If your broader movement repurposes that slogan, you can hold it together for so long as some supporters think they’re being literal and others are equally sure that they are not, and both groups are sincere in that belief.
But there is another, deeper explanation at play: that is, what if the political unpopularity of this type of slogan is the exact reason it’s used? While there is a sudden upswing of support behind BLM, trans rights or some similar movement, they will find no shortage of politicians willing to say supportive words.
Experience has taught these movements not to expect that support to hang around when the polling moves or when issues move on. How then are they to separate true political allies — perhaps, for example, among candidates for Congress — from fairweather friends? And so an unpopular slogan becomes a useful form of signalling.
The concept of signalling is one that emerged from economic theory, because economists concluded that we are often trying to make decisions with imperfect information. We might want to separate high-quality and low-quality candidates for a job, or a good second-hand car from a lemon. We cannot just take it on someone’s word that they’re a high-quality candidate because, as the mantra goes, “talk is cheap”: it’s in the interest of every candidate, good or not, to claim that they are high quality.
Signalling works because it comes with a cost. A typical thought-experiment example used for signalling — and taught in universities — is higher education itself, albeit in a very cynical way.
For the purposes of the example, imagine that degrees add absolutely no value or experience to a candidate, and that any type of candidate could get a degree if they really wanted to. We can even imagine that they come with no direct financial cost.
In this example, a degree requires a candidate to give up three years of their life and produce a large volume of academic work over that time. That work is less unpleasant for high-quality candidates than for low-quality candidates, even though both could do it. The cost of a signalling degree, in other words, would be lower for a high-quality candidate than a low-quality candidate.
This would mean that an employer in this imaginary world could expect that the chances of getting a high-quality candidate would be higher if they picked a candidate with a degree than if they picked one without — even knowing the degree is worthless, it still serves as a signal.
This, of course, is not at all how degrees work in the real world, nothing like it.
But the idea of costly signals is a useful one, and one that extends well beyond politics, economics or even humanity — costly displays with no practical value are built into our very biology. Elaborate plumage, fights between males, or energetic mating dances are all forms of signalling — a proxy for some kind of health, by demonstrating you can afford to do something costly.
What the would-be mate wants to know is whether their offspring would be healthy and have good genes and a good chance of viability. What activist movements want to know is whether elite supporters will really follow through on their goals, or whether they’ll just try to ride a popular wave and then sell them out.
Politicians are generally looking to win elections and secure their policy goals. Forcing a politician to tie themselves to a cause that is unpopular could become an effective signal: if they are willing to pay that price, it suggests — on paper at least — that your policy goals must be like theirs.
That means your movement’s useful resources — its activists, its fundraising potential, its votes — are targeted towards candidates who might actually help you in office, rather than ones who will just say the right thing. If effective, this could lead to the counter-intuitive conclusion that unpopular slogans could be effective vehicles for creating social change. The open question is whether they are actually effective in separating politicians in the way such a movement might want.
Moderate politicians would argue that the signalling cost of backing unpopular causes is effectively zero to a certain type of politician — one with a safe seat who enjoys supporting niche causes but who has little interest or ability in actually legislating or governing. If this critique — one levelled at Jeremy Corbyn or Bernie Sanders — is fair, such politicians find it easy to support such movements, but then achieve very little in the way of change for them.
But the politicians deterred from paying the signalling price might be the ones more able to actually mobilise a broader coalition to effect change — if only they could win enough trust to do so. Yet this risks falling into the “talk is cheap” trap. How does this moderate prove themselves different from all the others that went before, and got nothing done?
Activist movements are more rational than they can first appear. There are good reasons to demand a political price in exchange for your support. The question for the movements today trying to succeed where their predecessors failed is whether the price they’re demanding is too high for the people they most need to pay up.
This is further hampered by another social psychological effect known as group polarisation. If you take a group who are loosely aligned on a particular issue and have them discuss it over time — as will naturally happen in any political or activist group — academic studies show they will not come to a consensus around the average politics of the group before they started talking.
Instead, they will come to a conclusion towards the extreme end of the view — in effect radicalising each other through their mutual agreement. This is mooted to be due to a combination of effects all acting in the same direction: firstly, confirmation bias, with people latching on to new information that supports their existing beliefs.
Similarly, people will recognise that status and acceptance comes from expressing more extreme views. Especially with issues that stir passions, people will rarely critically reflect and test their positions in such stirring circumstances.
This combination of group dynamics, a need for cohesion, and the desire to create meaningful costly signals creates a circumstance in which activist groups create slogans which then baffle and alienate the elites on “their” side and the public alike. The cost of signalling can be high, but it ends up being suffered by the group as a whole.
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SubscribeTo my knowledge no one has yet to actually put secession to the vote in CA, or Eastern Oregon or Eastern Washington. So it is impossible to know what legs such a movement might have, or what legal or political barriers would arise. There is also a fantasy about some areas joining Idaho, which would require Idaho’s approval.
Any new state or reordering of borders (Greater Idaho) would require consent from Congress, which brings it’s own perils: Democrats may feel emboldened – next time they have total control – to add a couple reliably obsequious new states, mainly D.C. and Puerto Rico. Still, the first step for this day-dream is to coalesce into an actual movement with signatures and drafted legislation.
Eloquently put. I don’t have much knowledge of US state politics (other than what i learn from this forum) but your contribution sounds intelligent.
What seems more likely is for an area to secede and join another state.
Western Oregon could join with Idaho and I think moves are already underway to make that happen. Western Washington could do the same. Eastern and northern CA could join with AZ or NV.
But it is going to require physical confrontation for it to happen. People with the power to control others do not give it up without a fight. It will take counties refusing to cooperate with the state. It will take county National Guard units and police units refusing to enforce or comply with their state counterparts. It will mean local cops and sheriffs departments being willing to confront state police.
Where it could get hairy is if the feds get involved and send in the FBI or the military to force compliance. I can think of half a dozen ways they could try to rationalize that.
Wrong. You’re watching too many “action” movies.
You mean Eastern Oregon and Washington. East of the Cascades. I agree that physical confrontation will be required. It’s going to require cojones on the part of those who wish to leave.
Wrong. You’re watching too many “action” movies.
You mean Eastern Oregon and Washington. East of the Cascades. I agree that physical confrontation will be required. It’s going to require cojones on the part of those who wish to leave.
Eloquently put. I don’t have much knowledge of US state politics (other than what i learn from this forum) but your contribution sounds intelligent.
What seems more likely is for an area to secede and join another state.
Western Oregon could join with Idaho and I think moves are already underway to make that happen. Western Washington could do the same. Eastern and northern CA could join with AZ or NV.
But it is going to require physical confrontation for it to happen. People with the power to control others do not give it up without a fight. It will take counties refusing to cooperate with the state. It will take county National Guard units and police units refusing to enforce or comply with their state counterparts. It will mean local cops and sheriffs departments being willing to confront state police.
Where it could get hairy is if the feds get involved and send in the FBI or the military to force compliance. I can think of half a dozen ways they could try to rationalize that.
To my knowledge no one has yet to actually put secession to the vote in CA, or Eastern Oregon or Eastern Washington. So it is impossible to know what legs such a movement might have, or what legal or political barriers would arise. There is also a fantasy about some areas joining Idaho, which would require Idaho’s approval.
Any new state or reordering of borders (Greater Idaho) would require consent from Congress, which brings it’s own perils: Democrats may feel emboldened – next time they have total control – to add a couple reliably obsequious new states, mainly D.C. and Puerto Rico. Still, the first step for this day-dream is to coalesce into an actual movement with signatures and drafted legislation.
When I saw the headline, I thought this sounds good – the US, and the rest of the west, is better off without California. My hopes were dashed pretty quickly.
When I saw the headline, I thought this sounds good – the US, and the rest of the west, is better off without California. My hopes were dashed pretty quickly.
The correct term is Mexifornia. That is not a xenophobic viewpoint, it is an observable fact.
California might better be broken into thirds: the coastal Eliteafornia, ( or perhaps “Wokeifornia’ ) the central and mountain Conservatifornia, with a Palestinian-like enclave in the southern part of the state ( Mexifornia ) ceded back to Mexico and made up of over five million illegal immigrants. Los Angeles would be the capital of this rump state of Northern Mexico. ( Orange County would have to petition its way into the jurisdiction of one of the other two new states which would remain under U.S. sovereignty. ) NB the homeless population would remain, as it is now, concentrated in urban coastal areas. A wonderful social welfare opportunity for the elites in their new state.
Unless you live here in California, you have no idea how messed up this once-idyllic state has become. Dystopian. Home of every whacko, leftist, utopian policy in America.
The correct term is Mexifornia. That is not a xenophobic viewpoint, it is an observable fact.
California might better be broken into thirds: the coastal Eliteafornia, ( or perhaps “Wokeifornia’ ) the central and mountain Conservatifornia, with a Palestinian-like enclave in the southern part of the state ( Mexifornia ) ceded back to Mexico and made up of over five million illegal immigrants. Los Angeles would be the capital of this rump state of Northern Mexico. ( Orange County would have to petition its way into the jurisdiction of one of the other two new states which would remain under U.S. sovereignty. ) NB the homeless population would remain, as it is now, concentrated in urban coastal areas. A wonderful social welfare opportunity for the elites in their new state.
Unless you live here in California, you have no idea how messed up this once-idyllic state has become. Dystopian. Home of every whacko, leftist, utopian policy in America.
I live here in CA. This is a pipe dream and it always have been. Steps to “succession”:
1) Put an advisory measure on the ballot in several contiguous counties.
2) Obtain at least a majority vote but preferably much more.
3) Force elected representatives to actually implement the studies to break away from Sacramento.
4) Use those county supervisor districts as leverage to bring a bill before the state legislature to partition the state.
5) Get the governor to sign said measure.
6) Use legislative pressure to get Congressional approval passed through both chambers and signed by the President.
Whether the resulting state would be economically viable is debatable. That this process will never be accomplished in my lifetime (and likely ever) is not debatable.
The last time a state split (Virginia) occurred when the Civil War kept the Southern States out of Congress. It ain’t happening again, regardless of the number of State of Jefferson flags.
That sounds like a realistic analysis. So what’s the way forward for the increasing schism between deep blue cities (not just in California) and everywhere else?
If you look at California, for example, the “blue state” is actually three big, blue blobs: SF bay area, LA, and San Diego (and, of course, the small state capital, Sacramento). Pretty much everywhere else is red. How can this massive, de facto partition persist without some sort of red rebellion?
This is playing out in Canada as well. British Columbia elects governments on the strength of the Greater Vancouver region – sometimes without a seat east of Whistler. The Federal Government in Canada is elected by Ontario and Quebec – mostly by their two big cities – Toronto and Montreal.
Those four blobs account for about 26.5 million people out of a total population of about 39 million. Not all 26 million are hard core blue and not all of the rural folks are deep red. Since I was in high school in the 1960’s, there has been rumblings about dividing up the state and I’m sure that predated me. The rationale seems to evolve. When I was a kid it was because the southern part of the state took all the water from the north. In the north they wanted to form a breakaway state called Alta California. Kevin McCarthy, current Republican Speaker of the House is from a California Congressional District, as was previous House Speaker – Democrat Nancy Pelosi. It is easy to paint the state with a broad brush.
the red/blue geography you mention applies in nearly every state in the union. That’s why talk of a second America civil war is so absurd.
The solution is federalism and subsidiarity all the way to the county level. Absent that, this cold war will continue. Even David French is starting to talk that way these days,
This is playing out in Canada as well. British Columbia elects governments on the strength of the Greater Vancouver region – sometimes without a seat east of Whistler. The Federal Government in Canada is elected by Ontario and Quebec – mostly by their two big cities – Toronto and Montreal.
Those four blobs account for about 26.5 million people out of a total population of about 39 million. Not all 26 million are hard core blue and not all of the rural folks are deep red. Since I was in high school in the 1960’s, there has been rumblings about dividing up the state and I’m sure that predated me. The rationale seems to evolve. When I was a kid it was because the southern part of the state took all the water from the north. In the north they wanted to form a breakaway state called Alta California. Kevin McCarthy, current Republican Speaker of the House is from a California Congressional District, as was previous House Speaker – Democrat Nancy Pelosi. It is easy to paint the state with a broad brush.
the red/blue geography you mention applies in nearly every state in the union. That’s why talk of a second America civil war is so absurd.
The solution is federalism and subsidiarity all the way to the county level. Absent that, this cold war will continue. Even David French is starting to talk that way these days,
Brian,
I cannot disagree with your analysis and if I had to put odd on it I would say that your take has a 98% probability of being true. But then HRC had a 95% chance too.
That said, times they be a changing in radical and unpredictable ways.
What is more likely is that CA continues to shed people and states like TX and FL, AZ and others continue to gain population. What is more likely is that places like LA and San Francisco will enter doom loops while places like Austin, Tampa and Charlotte and Raleigh thrive.
What is more likely is that businesses will continue to leave for other places with lower taxes, less regulation, cheaper energy and stronger policing.
What is more likely is that CA will continue to lose seats in the House and TX, FL and the Carolina’s gain seats.
What is more likely is that as the above happens, those left behind are going to face higher taxes to offset the losses, more fees and less services. Creating incentive for more people to leave.
Eventually, what is most likely to happen, is that CA will face a real financial collapse and substantial loss of influence to more conservative states. Housing prices will take a nose dive and property taxes with them, meaning local services and schools will be impacted. Then, when CA hits rock bottom, which is what will have to happen for them to change, they will desperately start looking for policies that will attract people and businesses back into the state. That will likely mean at some point a republican legislature and a republican governor or democrats that look like republicans. There will be massive reductions in regulation, a lowering of taxes, an emphasis on policing, likely cuts in pensions to state workers and a reduction in the state workforce. Certain cities will likely go into receivership, state or federal.
States like CA and NY, even MA and NJ are going to keep losing out to places like TN and FL. As that happens, they will double down on the things that are killing them until something breaks. Then, when they are desperate, when they have to choose between giving teachers raises or paying the pensions for retirees, when they are left with no alternatives, they will grudgingly and with resentment, start undoing all the things that intially drove people out. But that is a process of generations.
See, the problem stems from arrogance. Places like NY and CA thougtht they were so special and so unique that people would always come, that no matter how hard the state made life in taxes and regulation, that people would never leave for some place like Nashville. Well, it looks like a tipping point has been reached and I really do not think that CA or its state government has the stomach to do what is needed to reverse the tide and wont until things get desperate.
I left MA for FL and then the mid Atlantic states years ago and have no regrets at all. I cannot count the number of offers I have had to move to CA for work. I never give the recruiter the time to get past the move to CA before I say no. I’m not alone. Many of my neighbors are from NY, MA and the west coast. The one thing we tell new arrivals; Do NOT do here what you did there, its why you moved here.
Adam Smith said, “there’s a great deal of ruin in a nation”, and the quote applies just as well to CA. It’s huge economically and geographically.
There certainly is a bottom, but I think we’re many decades away from it. The Latinos might save us if they really do turn against the Dems.
The problem is, they DO do what they did there. Colorado is the absolute classic example. The lefties began leaving the smog, traffic and sprawl of both coasts in the 70s and CO is now solidly under Dem dominion.
Adam Smith said, “there’s a great deal of ruin in a nation”, and the quote applies just as well to CA. It’s huge economically and geographically.
There certainly is a bottom, but I think we’re many decades away from it. The Latinos might save us if they really do turn against the Dems.
The problem is, they DO do what they did there. Colorado is the absolute classic example. The lefties began leaving the smog, traffic and sprawl of both coasts in the 70s and CO is now solidly under Dem dominion.
That sounds like a realistic analysis. So what’s the way forward for the increasing schism between deep blue cities (not just in California) and everywhere else?
If you look at California, for example, the “blue state” is actually three big, blue blobs: SF bay area, LA, and San Diego (and, of course, the small state capital, Sacramento). Pretty much everywhere else is red. How can this massive, de facto partition persist without some sort of red rebellion?
Brian,
I cannot disagree with your analysis and if I had to put odd on it I would say that your take has a 98% probability of being true. But then HRC had a 95% chance too.
That said, times they be a changing in radical and unpredictable ways.
What is more likely is that CA continues to shed people and states like TX and FL, AZ and others continue to gain population. What is more likely is that places like LA and San Francisco will enter doom loops while places like Austin, Tampa and Charlotte and Raleigh thrive.
What is more likely is that businesses will continue to leave for other places with lower taxes, less regulation, cheaper energy and stronger policing.
What is more likely is that CA will continue to lose seats in the House and TX, FL and the Carolina’s gain seats.
What is more likely is that as the above happens, those left behind are going to face higher taxes to offset the losses, more fees and less services. Creating incentive for more people to leave.
Eventually, what is most likely to happen, is that CA will face a real financial collapse and substantial loss of influence to more conservative states. Housing prices will take a nose dive and property taxes with them, meaning local services and schools will be impacted. Then, when CA hits rock bottom, which is what will have to happen for them to change, they will desperately start looking for policies that will attract people and businesses back into the state. That will likely mean at some point a republican legislature and a republican governor or democrats that look like republicans. There will be massive reductions in regulation, a lowering of taxes, an emphasis on policing, likely cuts in pensions to state workers and a reduction in the state workforce. Certain cities will likely go into receivership, state or federal.
States like CA and NY, even MA and NJ are going to keep losing out to places like TN and FL. As that happens, they will double down on the things that are killing them until something breaks. Then, when they are desperate, when they have to choose between giving teachers raises or paying the pensions for retirees, when they are left with no alternatives, they will grudgingly and with resentment, start undoing all the things that intially drove people out. But that is a process of generations.
See, the problem stems from arrogance. Places like NY and CA thougtht they were so special and so unique that people would always come, that no matter how hard the state made life in taxes and regulation, that people would never leave for some place like Nashville. Well, it looks like a tipping point has been reached and I really do not think that CA or its state government has the stomach to do what is needed to reverse the tide and wont until things get desperate.
I left MA for FL and then the mid Atlantic states years ago and have no regrets at all. I cannot count the number of offers I have had to move to CA for work. I never give the recruiter the time to get past the move to CA before I say no. I’m not alone. Many of my neighbors are from NY, MA and the west coast. The one thing we tell new arrivals; Do NOT do here what you did there, its why you moved here.
I live here in CA. This is a pipe dream and it always have been. Steps to “succession”:
1) Put an advisory measure on the ballot in several contiguous counties.
2) Obtain at least a majority vote but preferably much more.
3) Force elected representatives to actually implement the studies to break away from Sacramento.
4) Use those county supervisor districts as leverage to bring a bill before the state legislature to partition the state.
5) Get the governor to sign said measure.
6) Use legislative pressure to get Congressional approval passed through both chambers and signed by the President.
Whether the resulting state would be economically viable is debatable. That this process will never be accomplished in my lifetime (and likely ever) is not debatable.
The last time a state split (Virginia) occurred when the Civil War kept the Southern States out of Congress. It ain’t happening again, regardless of the number of State of Jefferson flags.
Some very eloquent comments about the administrative difficulties of splitting the State. But I wonder if these difficulties are only apparently difficult. A true Secession doesn’t necessarily need the agreement of both sides.
Still a difficult political change to achieve but if the Town wants the Country to leave and the Country wants the Town to leave then it might be comparatively easy to achieve, especially if the Republicans control the Federal Government.
Some very eloquent comments about the administrative difficulties of splitting the State. But I wonder if these difficulties are only apparently difficult. A true Secession doesn’t necessarily need the agreement of both sides.
Still a difficult political change to achieve but if the Town wants the Country to leave and the Country wants the Town to leave then it might be comparatively easy to achieve, especially if the Republicans control the Federal Government.
The polarization of opinions in the USA is now extreme, and shows no sign of decreasing. So it’s a reasonable suggestion that one or more States should secede, to enable citizens with different opinions to move to a State to be governed as they wish to be.
The polarization of opinions in the USA is now extreme, and shows no sign of decreasing. So it’s a reasonable suggestion that one or more States should secede, to enable citizens with different opinions to move to a State to be governed as they wish to be.
My understanding is that you can’t have breakaway “new” states. Too easy to game that, til each original State is represented by dozens of Senators, instead of the two per State agreed upon in the Constitution. Those Founding Fathers were pretty sharp!
But you can break away in order to join an existing State. That is, the Constitution doesn’t specifically forbid it. The Representatives from those breakaway Congressional Districts would go to the adoptive State but the number of Senators doesn’t change.
But I really wonder about DC and Puerto Rico. Could it be that a simple Act of Congress is all that’s needed to grant State-hood? And how did Virginia become Virginia and West Virginia?
Thankfully, the Good Lord hath provideth us with more than enough lawyers to kick this can up and down the road til after I’m long gone.
My understanding is that you can’t have breakaway “new” states. Too easy to game that, til each original State is represented by dozens of Senators, instead of the two per State agreed upon in the Constitution. Those Founding Fathers were pretty sharp!
But you can break away in order to join an existing State. That is, the Constitution doesn’t specifically forbid it. The Representatives from those breakaway Congressional Districts would go to the adoptive State but the number of Senators doesn’t change.
But I really wonder about DC and Puerto Rico. Could it be that a simple Act of Congress is all that’s needed to grant State-hood? And how did Virginia become Virginia and West Virginia?
Thankfully, the Good Lord hath provideth us with more than enough lawyers to kick this can up and down the road til after I’m long gone.
Wish we could have secession in South Africa. The Western Cape would love to divorce the rest.
Wish we could have secession in South Africa. The Western Cape would love to divorce the rest.