Excellent post. “Inverted” reality to put it another way. I think conservatives such as Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell and Coleman Hughes really helped many ethnics see through the cr@p.
Starting with the title of this article – more of this insanity! VP Pence said it well to Harris, “You can have your own opinion, but you cannot have your own facts.”
Fraser Bailey
3 years ago
This article is full of nonsense. Biden is guilty of far more racist rhetoric, over the years, than Trump, who received various awards from the NAACP.
The Proud Boys, to the extent that they are led by anyone, are led my a mixed-race African-Cuban man.
Anyone who has been following Candace Owens, Officer Tatum, Larry Elder, Anthony Logan Brown and other prominent black Trump supporters was not at all surprised that Trump received an increased vote share from black voters. Indeed, I was disappointed that it did not track higher.
The fact is that Trump increased his percentages among every racial, ethnic, gender and LGBQT group except white men.
The fact is that Trump increased his percentages among every racial, ethnic, gender and LGBQT group except white men. Making Trump the worst sexist/racist/homophobe ever.
If you’re being honest about it, you’ll admit that Tarrio (a Cuban-American ex-con) is part of a flimsy attempt at a rebrand by the Proud Boys. They are a neo-fascist hate group, founded by a white supremacist, which promotes violence for political ends. They are very obviously closely affiliated with the white supremacy movement. Tarrio is lipstick on a pig, fooling no-one, except those who choose to turn a blind eye. But don’t me let me stop you, tell us some more about the poor misunderstood Proud Boys and why you think it’s important to defend them.
I love the idea that a white supremacist group could be so commited to masking their true intentions that they elect an actual black person to lead them. Some of their chapters even consist predominantly of ethnic minorities. If only the KKK had thought of that 😂
Robin P
3 years ago
Why is NO-ONE talking about the huge fault in the Biden “Victory”?
A crucial principle of democratic elections is the SECRET BALLOT. Secret voting booths were introduced because previously voters were intimidated by “superior” more powerful people to vote for candidates not of their choosing.
With postal voting it is impossible to prevent such intimidation, because the voting no longer takes place in a supervised voting booth. It follows that an election with any significant proportion of mail-in voting is invalid due to breach of the secret ballot principle. Postal voting can be justified only in respect of people who would be unable to travel to a voting booth.
So while Trump’s words about vote-stealing are incompetently-expressed, they actually have a profound truth behind them.
The election of Biden is in breach of a fundamental principle shared by all European countries – yet no-one is talking about it.
You make a good point But it should have been made before the election not after you get a result you don’t like. I may be wrong but postal votes were around when H Clinton lost unexpectedly. Trump has had four years to rectify this, he himself used a postal vote (I believe). But I agree that if you want to be part of an election process you should turn up and vote in a booth in total anonymity.
Very good point. I’ve been pondering on this issue as well for some weeks. It surprises me that this is not discussed in more forums.
A similar thing that flumoxes me is that New York did not start boarding up until it looked Biden might lose. Clearly they were not afraid of T. voters.
L Paw
3 years ago
Outrageous article, there is ample footage easily available of the burning, looting and use of firearms and horrible intimidation by the BLM side during the BLM protests in US. So ‘white actors’ supporting BLM and committing violence and intimidating people not making their salute is OK now? And white people can’t distinguish between protest and riots…… Just imagine the outcry by BLM supporting Liberals if anyone claimed that ‘black people cannot distinguish between protest and riots…..’ Immediately denounced as racists and bigots.
Alex Lekas
3 years ago
The President’s often-racist rhetoric was mitigated by his economic promises. Rhetoric like what? For four years, this claim has been presented as an article of faith and for four years, any challenge for evidence has cited a grossly out of context quote on illegal immigration from Mexico and an early 1970s court case over housing.
When this alleged racist grabs more non-white vote than any Repub since 1960, the claim falls flat. As it is, the left predictably turns on any minority who dares to deviate from leftist dogma and much of the media is repeating the same tired “America is still racist” BS. Apparently no one sees the irony in this charge being levied by minorities working at the heights of media. If racism was a real issue, Charles Blow would be working for a neighborhood weekly in Harlem, not the NYT, and no one would ever have to hear anything from the limited mind of Jemele Hill.
Meghan Kathleen Jamieson
3 years ago
The Democrats are going to have to be careful, or they could end up losing “the black vote” in much the same way they can no longer count on the white working class vote, or the Catholic vote. You cannot just tell people you are working in their interests without listening to their beliefs and concerns. The economic interests of working class black voters aren’t really different than white working class voters, and they are similarly socially conservative. Lincoln may have been “the most racist president” but that should be a lesson. Voters don’t necessarily worry much about a candidates private views, which they can’t really know anyway – and often no candidate really reflects their views anyway. They care what the candidate and his party have done for them, materially and concretely.
I think the author’s analysis here of the effect of BLM is a little too simple. I’m sure some voters have tended to fail to differentiate bad actors from other protestors, but I’m not sure that was the main point for many. Many many people, especially those living in communities with a lot of crime, were unimpressed by the “defund the police” rhetoric. And as much as some claimed this wasn’t meant literally, it was clear that many within the BLM organisations did intend that meaning. Te experiments with police=free areas were not successes, and it was clear those pushing them were anarchists, which doesn’t appeal to most citizens. This is true of people across the race divide.
It’s interesting to me that despite continued claims that a Sanders campaign would have been less successful than a Biden campaign with black voters, Sanders approach to race issue was essentially to look to the shared interests of working class voters across race, things like “Jobs!”
G Harris
3 years ago
Time to see if a superannuated leopard can change his spots.
Over to you, Joe.
Lydia R
3 years ago
I’m looking forward to seeing the bratty Antifa/BLM kick off when Uncle Joe doesn’t deliver the Socialist Paradise.
You, and so many others on the alt-right. Why do you think that supporters of he Black Lives Matter movement are brats? Do you really think that Joe Biden is a socialist? Why would it give you so much pleasure to see the country fail under Biden? So much of alt-right politics seems to me to be driven by spite. I see it all over this forum but struggle to understand it. I think it’s an emotional reaction to feeling looked down upon by a smug left.
Per NPR reporter (Shapiro), Kamala is not the first person of color to become Vice President; in fact, it was Charles Curtiss in the 1930’s, Hoover’s VP who was a member of the KAW Indian Nation. He spent a good deal of his childhood in ‘Indian Territory’ which was not yet a reservation as a child (Oklahoma became a state on 1907). His profile can be read on Wikipedia. An interesting person as well as an interesting period in American Indian history.
Cathy Carron
3 years ago
“The Republicans were also able to invent false accusations, claiming that Biden once referred to young Black men as “super predators” (it was actually Hillary Clinton who made that remark in the 1990s).”
Yes, Hillary did use the term’ super predators’….HOWEVER, Biden took a shortcut and used just the term ‘predators’ in promoting his 1994 crime bill.
Biden has made a number of inappropriate or even ‘racist’ statements over his career including: (1) “They’re going to put y’all back in chain” spoken to a black audience about Republicans (2) “You ain’t black unless you got Democrat” in an interview with Charlamage-the-God (3) His whole story of ‘Cornpop’ the black bad dude reeks of inappropriateness (4) Biden’s recollection of black kids wanting to touch his hairy legs at the local swimming pool where he was a life guard as a teen ……and so many others. Biden really is a man of another age. Definitely not ‘woke’ but working in it you could say.
It can’t have helped the Dems value to the largest group of crime victims, African Americans, to be promoting the defunding of the police.
“The man who spearheaded a global initiative to decriminalize homosexuality is a homophobe.
The man who negotiated 4 historic peace deals and managed to avoid having to go to war against a NATO ally is a warmonger.
The man who brought troops home does not value the US military.
The man who fixed the VA thinks people wounded or killed in war are “losers and suckers”.
The man who increased funding for black colleges and universities and locked it in for 10 years hates black people.
The man who created Opportunity Zones to revitalize distressed communities hates minorities.
The man who champions school choice hates the poor.
The man who presided over the biggest increase in median household earnings in decades hates the middle class.
The man who began closing the wealth gap is only in it for his own financial gain.
The man who reduced our dependence on communist China hates democracy.
The man who reopened the Iron Range and created hundreds of thousands of high paying resource jobs hates the working class.
The first man in American history whose net worth went down while he was president is a greedy fat cat.
The man who instituted prison reform and criminal justice reform is a racist sociopath.
The man who had a record number of small donations to his campaign and funded much of it out of his own pocket is a Wall Street shill.
The man who doesn’t take a salary as president is not paying his fair share.
The man who appointed the first openly gay person to his cabinet is anti-gay.
The man who wants to take his case to court and let the court decide is a dictator.
The man who followed the constitution and allowed the states to generate their own coronavirus policy failed on coronavirus.
The man who presided over the single largest quarterly rise in GDP is destroying the economy.
The man who told his supporters to vote in person so there’d be no cheating is trying to steal the election.
We are officially living in upside down land.”
Karen Straughan
Excellent post. “Inverted” reality to put it another way. I think conservatives such as Larry Elder, Thomas Sowell and Coleman Hughes really helped many ethnics see through the cr@p.
Starting with the title of this article – more of this insanity! VP Pence said it well to Harris, “You can have your own opinion, but you cannot have your own facts.”
This article is full of nonsense. Biden is guilty of far more racist rhetoric, over the years, than Trump, who received various awards from the NAACP.
The Proud Boys, to the extent that they are led by anyone, are led my a mixed-race African-Cuban man.
Anyone who has been following Candace Owens, Officer Tatum, Larry Elder, Anthony Logan Brown and other prominent black Trump supporters was not at all surprised that Trump received an increased vote share from black voters. Indeed, I was disappointed that it did not track higher.
The fact is that Trump increased his percentages among every racial, ethnic, gender and LGBQT group except white men.
The fact is that Trump increased his percentages among every racial, ethnic, gender and LGBQT group except white men.
Making Trump the worst sexist/racist/homophobe ever.
If you’re being honest about it, you’ll admit that Tarrio (a Cuban-American ex-con) is part of a flimsy attempt at a rebrand by the Proud Boys. They are a neo-fascist hate group, founded by a white supremacist, which promotes violence for political ends. They are very obviously closely affiliated with the white supremacy movement. Tarrio is lipstick on a pig, fooling no-one, except those who choose to turn a blind eye. But don’t me let me stop you, tell us some more about the poor misunderstood Proud Boys and why you think it’s important to defend them.
I love the idea that a white supremacist group could be so commited to masking their true intentions that they elect an actual black person to lead them. Some of their chapters even consist predominantly of ethnic minorities. If only the KKK had thought of that 😂
Why is NO-ONE talking about the huge fault in the Biden “Victory”?
A crucial principle of democratic elections is the SECRET BALLOT. Secret voting booths were introduced because previously voters were intimidated by “superior” more powerful people to vote for candidates not of their choosing.
With postal voting it is impossible to prevent such intimidation, because the voting no longer takes place in a supervised voting booth. It follows that an election with any significant proportion of mail-in voting is invalid due to breach of the secret ballot principle. Postal voting can be justified only in respect of people who would be unable to travel to a voting booth.
So while Trump’s words about vote-stealing are incompetently-expressed, they actually have a profound truth behind them.
The election of Biden is in breach of a fundamental principle shared by all European countries – yet no-one is talking about it.
You make a good point
But it should have been made before the election not after you get a result you don’t like.
I may be wrong but postal votes were around when H Clinton lost unexpectedly. Trump has had four years to rectify this, he himself used a postal vote (I believe).
But I agree that if you want to be part of an election process you should turn up and vote in a booth in total anonymity.
Very good point. I’ve been pondering on this issue as well for some weeks. It surprises me that this is not discussed in more forums.
A similar thing that flumoxes me is that New York did not start boarding up until it looked Biden might lose. Clearly they were not afraid of T. voters.
Outrageous article, there is ample footage easily available of the burning, looting and use of firearms and horrible intimidation by the BLM side during the BLM protests in US.
So ‘white actors’ supporting BLM and committing violence and intimidating people not making their salute is OK now?
And white people can’t distinguish between protest and riots……
Just imagine the outcry by BLM supporting Liberals if anyone claimed that ‘black people cannot distinguish between protest and riots…..’ Immediately denounced as racists and bigots.
The President’s often-racist rhetoric was mitigated by his economic promises.
Rhetoric like what? For four years, this claim has been presented as an article of faith and for four years, any challenge for evidence has cited a grossly out of context quote on illegal immigration from Mexico and an early 1970s court case over housing.
When this alleged racist grabs more non-white vote than any Repub since 1960, the claim falls flat. As it is, the left predictably turns on any minority who dares to deviate from leftist dogma and much of the media is repeating the same tired “America is still racist” BS. Apparently no one sees the irony in this charge being levied by minorities working at the heights of media. If racism was a real issue, Charles Blow would be working for a neighborhood weekly in Harlem, not the NYT, and no one would ever have to hear anything from the limited mind of Jemele Hill.
The Democrats are going to have to be careful, or they could end up losing “the black vote” in much the same way they can no longer count on the white working class vote, or the Catholic vote. You cannot just tell people you are working in their interests without listening to their beliefs and concerns. The economic interests of working class black voters aren’t really different than white working class voters, and they are similarly socially conservative. Lincoln may have been “the most racist president” but that should be a lesson. Voters don’t necessarily worry much about a candidates private views, which they can’t really know anyway – and often no candidate really reflects their views anyway. They care what the candidate and his party have done for them, materially and concretely.
I think the author’s analysis here of the effect of BLM is a little too simple. I’m sure some voters have tended to fail to differentiate bad actors from other protestors, but I’m not sure that was the main point for many. Many many people, especially those living in communities with a lot of crime, were unimpressed by the “defund the police” rhetoric. And as much as some claimed this wasn’t meant literally, it was clear that many within the BLM organisations did intend that meaning. Te experiments with police=free areas were not successes, and it was clear those pushing them were anarchists, which doesn’t appeal to most citizens. This is true of people across the race divide.
It’s interesting to me that despite continued claims that a Sanders campaign would have been less successful than a Biden campaign with black voters, Sanders approach to race issue was essentially to look to the shared interests of working class voters across race, things like “Jobs!”
Time to see if a superannuated leopard can change his spots.
Over to you, Joe.
I’m looking forward to seeing the bratty Antifa/BLM kick off when Uncle Joe doesn’t deliver the Socialist Paradise.
You, and so many others on the alt-right. Why do you think that supporters of he Black Lives Matter movement are brats? Do you really think that Joe Biden is a socialist? Why would it give you so much pleasure to see the country fail under Biden? So much of alt-right politics seems to me to be driven by spite. I see it all over this forum but struggle to understand it. I think it’s an emotional reaction to feeling looked down upon by a smug left.
It’s happening already. Popcorn time.
Per NPR reporter (Shapiro), Kamala is not the first person of color to become Vice President; in fact, it was Charles Curtiss in the 1930’s, Hoover’s VP who was a member of the KAW Indian Nation. He spent a good deal of his childhood in ‘Indian Territory’ which was not yet a reservation as a child (Oklahoma became a state on 1907). His profile can be read on Wikipedia. An interesting person as well as an interesting period in American Indian history.
“The Republicans were also able to invent false accusations, claiming that Biden once referred to young Black men as “super predators” (it was actually Hillary Clinton who made that remark in the 1990s).”
Yes, Hillary did use the term’ super predators’….HOWEVER, Biden took a shortcut and used just the term ‘predators’ in promoting his 1994 crime bill.
Biden has made a number of inappropriate or even ‘racist’ statements over his career including: (1) “They’re going to put y’all back in chain” spoken to a black audience about Republicans (2) “You ain’t black unless you got Democrat” in an interview with Charlamage-the-God (3) His whole story of ‘Cornpop’ the black bad dude reeks of inappropriateness (4) Biden’s recollection of black kids wanting to touch his hairy legs at the local swimming pool where he was a life guard as a teen ……and so many others. Biden really is a man of another age. Definitely not ‘woke’ but working in it you could say.
Not patronising them?