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Hillbilly Elegy resents ‘white trash’ The Netflix adaptation of JD Vance's memoir will be hated by conservatives and liberals alike

Glenn Close and Amy Adams in the film version of JD Vance's memoir. Credit: Netflix

Glenn Close and Amy Adams in the film version of JD Vance's memoir. Credit: Netflix


November 20, 2020   7 mins

It’s one of the unexamined oddnesses of American life that “Hollywood” should be synonymous with liberalism – if not socialism – in so many people’s minds. Hollywood types certainly talk in nice liberal platitudes. Joan Didion captured the peculiar airiness of Left Coast politics in her essay Good Intentions: “The public life of liberal Hollywood comprises a kind of dictatorship of good intentions, a social contract in which actual and irreconcilable disagreement is as taboo as failure or bad teeth”. That was 1970. Plus ça change, huh?

But they protest too much, these Hollywood liberals. In terms of end-product, Hollywood is the propaganda factory of American conservatism. Periodically, some opinionator will complain that the right-wing point of view is censored, barred, banned in popular culture today — perhaps pointing to some (largely market-driven) decision to cast a non-white lead in a superhero franchise, or some bit of awards ceremony handwringing. The counter-evidence would be: Fast & Furious 9, Toy Story 4, Avengers: Endgame, The Star Wars saga, Die Hard, Rocky I-V, Wonder Woman, Working Girl. Every western, every war movie, every film in which a determined individual rises above a mediocre/corrupt/unbelieving collective to impose their will upon their fate — usually with some homilies about the importance of family, an insistence on absolute Truth, and a bit of ultra-violence along the way.

Ron Howard’s adaptation of JD Vance’s memoir Hillbilly Elegy — streaming on Netflix from Tuesday — is quintessential. It’s the sentimental tale of a bright kid from a bad town who lifts himself, by his bootstraps, no less, to personal success. In her role as “Mamaw”, the foul-mouthed heart-of-gold Appalachian matriarch, Glenn Close even commits to wearing bad teeth — which means she is now seen as a dead cert for an Oscar nod. In fact, the only thing that distinguishes Hillbilly Elegy from basic Hollywood fare, other than its off-the-charts Ron Howardian mawkishness, is that its source material is explicit in its conservatism. For the real-life Vance is a proud representative of the white working class, who once described Donald Trump’s message as “an oasis in the desert” for his people.

Back in the 1960s, Vance’s hillbilly grandparents (Mamaw and Papaw), became internal immigrants, moving 100 miles from rural Kentucky to Middletown, Ohio, in search of work at the Armco steelworks. Even when work was plentiful, violence, alcoholism and a general cussedness were features of daily life. When the jobs disappeared in the 1970s and 80s, poverty, drugs and despair were added to the mix. But one child believed… and Vance made it out, first becoming a Marine, then a Yale Law School graduate, then a Silicon Valley venture capitalist, then a bestselling author at 31.

Hillbilly Elegy doesn’t mention Trump — but the timing was apt. In the aftermath of the 2016 election, Vance was presented as a sentinel of not only the hillbillies (whom he describes as his people; quite specifically Scots-Irish farmers who settled in the Appalachians), but also the white working class en masse.

“You cannot understand what’s happening now without first reading JD Vance,” wrote Rod Dreher in an interview that crashed the American Conservative website. “His book does for poor white people what Ta-Nehisi Coates’s book did for poor black people: give them voice and presence in the public square.”

So Hillbilly Elegy became a set text for modern conservatives, the book that — as a commenter on the Times website recently put it — “explains exactly why Trump was needed and is still needed”. Vance toured the news channels as a sort of thinking person’s deplorable and helped reframe identity politics for the only minority in America (as Mamaw had taught him) whom it was socially acceptable to insult. And for liberals, back in 2016, reading Hillbilly Elegy became an act of imaginative penance.

The book is deeply moving. Vance writes with clarity and empathy and captures, as few are able, the experience of family dysfunction from the perspective of a child. You cannot help but root for him — and wince at the bloody noses and black eyes, the Pepsi that his mother put in his bottle from nine months, the dim comments from the privileged people he meets when he finally breaks into those elite coastal enclaves. Hell of a family, the Vances. Mamaw literally set fire to her husband as a punishment for falling asleep drunk on the sofa — and she was the stable one. Vance’s father abandoned the family to become a Christian fundamentalist; 15 stepfathers came and went. When JD was 11, his drug-dependent mother (Amy Adams in the movie) lost her temper while driving and floored the accelerator, threatening to kill them both. When the case eventually arrives before a family court, JD looks around and realises that all the other families look like his.

The scene is presented a little differently in the film, but in the book it’s where the personal becomes political. “They wore sweatpants and stretchy pants and T-shirts. Their hair was a bit frizzy. And it was the first time I noticed ‘TV accents’ — the neutral accent that so many news anchors had, the social workers and the judge and the lawyer all had TV accents. None of us did. The people who ran the courthouse were different from us. The people subjected to it were not.”

But having written about the litany of failures in education, healthcare, the labour market, the justice system and wider American culture, Vance makes a fairly unconvincing turn. I read hoping to find out what lies beyond terms like “white trash”; Vance seemed to be saying to me — yeah, we are kind of trash. The fact that Vance is honest about his conflicted feelings doesn’t really help to iron them out. He sets great store by “hillbilly justice” (i.e. pointing guns at family members) — which “never failed me”. But he also wonders. If family honour is so important in his community, why are domestic abuse and family breakdown so rampant? If hillbillies are so hardworking, why do we give up on good jobs and moan about the economy on Facebook? And despite his purported pride in his people, he proves deeply resentful when any of his peers receive any crumbs of his success.

It would be inaccurate to characterise Vance as a cheerleader for Trump. He’s actually smarter than that. In his interview with Dreher, Vance warned — prophetically — that while Trumpism offered a cheap thrill, the man himself offered nothing to treat the root causes of American despair. He’s the OxyContin of Presidents. At best, he made people understand that their pain was economic as much as cultural. But Vance’s real disappointment with Trump — “the tragedy of his presidency” — is that he encouraged white working class voters to blame others for their problems.

The book turns out to be rather more old-fashioned: a diatribe against what Vance terms “learned helplessness”. Its broadsides at “welfare queens” have been mainstream in American politics since at least the Nixon era (when they were commonly directed against African-Americans). And its celebration of individual uplift is pure Hollywood. If he could change one thing about his community, Vance says, it’s the feeling people have that their choices don’t matter. They do — I am living proof of that, he says. “These problems were not created by governments or corporations or anyone else. We created them, only we can fix them.”

Well, sure. We all need to feel that our choices matter. But the fact that Vance only made it out by the skin of his teeth — and hillbilly VCs remain a rare breed — suggests that merely exhorting the people of Middletown, Ohio, to make better choices isn’t going to do much. As his book makes clear, a poor kid only needs to make a handful of bad choices to fail and 100 good choices to become a success. The opposite is true for rich kids: three of four decent choices all-but guarantee success; you need to continually mess up to truly mess up.

Instead of questioning the nature of those choices, Vance doubles down on those who made bad choices. That is, who lack his combination of intelligence; a hard-as-nails Mamaw; Amy Chua — the actual Tiger Mom of legend — stepping in as his mentor; and so on. Luck in other words. You need luck. Can’t we do better than luck?

The part that conservatives often quote with a triumphal “YOU SEE?” is where Vance dismisses naive attempts to improve his people’s lot through education — despite the fact that education provided his own route out. “As a teacher at my old high school told me recently, ‘They want us to be shepherds to these kids. But no one wants to talk about the fact that many of them are raised by wolves.’”

But that’s not the end of the conversation. It’s the beginning. OK, so what can be done to improve parenting? Infrastructure investment, job creation, paid parental leave, basic healthcare, nutrition programs, wage protection, income support? The sort of protections that American politicians have systematically dismantled over the last 40 years or so? Might be worth a try? And maybe a problem like the opioid epidemic was created by governments and corporations. This isn’t to deny the agency of Vance’s mother, who fell prey to heroin-addiction. It’s merely to admit that fixing it might involve more than just telling people to make less trashy choices. It may not turn wolves into lambs. But it might save a lot of kids unnecessary pain.

The message I took from the book was rather darker than the one that Vance purports to offer. What he seemed to be saying is: these people neither want nor deserve your sympathy or your help. And what a comforting message that must be for those who have outsourced jobs, dismantled social security and widened the economic divide over the years. And there’s a further implication too. These opiate-ridden post-industrial communities may hate big city liberals; but not nearly as much as they hate Billy down the road, who cheats on his food stamps; or Marcie next door, who has five kids by five different fathers; or Duane who pulled his gun on his wife in the restaurant.

It’s hopelessness internalised. Easy to stir up if you’re a cynical enough politician. It’s often forgotten that Tories only really started making in-roads in the “Red Wall” towns not with Brexit but with George Osborne’s “Skivers vs Strivers” speeches circa 2013 which went down a storm in post-industrial British towns.

As for the movie. I suspect conservatives will hate it as it does that thing Didion describes, of pretending irreconcilable political differences don’t exist. Liberals will hate it too as it does  that “sickeningly irresponsible” thing (as one review had it) of asking audiences to sympathise with a conservative. But let’s not pretend its combination of schmaltz and violence, of myth and identity is anything other than purest Hollywood, the absolute mainstream of American culture. It’s the water and we are fish — we don’t even notice it.


Richard Godwin is a freelance journalist who writes about culture, politics and technology

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Daniel Björkman
Daniel Björkman
4 years ago

Liberals will hate it too as it does that “sickeningly irresponsible” thing (as one review had it) of asking audiences to sympathise with a conservative.

I am constantly surprised at how many people think that the main problem of our time is that we are insufficiently hateful and fanatical.

Emperor Caligula
Emperor Caligula
4 years ago

“If you’re not furious, you’re not paying attention!” — the literal creed of the Woke legions. Because all the world’s problems can be solved with sufficient outrage.

I am literally shaking right now… (Insert whatever the woke dog whistle of the day is)

Jordan Flower
Jordan Flower
4 years ago

I AM SCREAMING

Drahcir Nevarc
Drahcir Nevarc
4 years ago
Reply to  Jordan Flower

‘I’m offended’.

Drahcir Nevarc
Drahcir Nevarc
4 years ago

‘I find that problematic’.

Kevin Ryan
Kevin Ryan
4 years ago

It sells ads Danny. You can monetise hate. Clicks and eyeballs.

croftyass
croftyass
4 years ago

‘They want us to be shepherds to these kids. But no one wants to talk about the fact that many of them are raised by wolves.'”Education was and still is the ticket out but unfortunately its in the hands of the Educational Establishment who I suspect don’t really get this point. .I attended a Christian Brothers Grammar school in the 1960’s North west (no abuse ever recorded or seen) whose pupils were 90% + working class-and I mean working class-the Brothers were under no illusion about their “flock”and saw it as their mission to educate them to be better than their priviledged equivalents-the results were amazing but the teachers were harder than the pupils and thats saying something.No excuses allowed-only striving for excellence -and when we got to play Rugby against any of the more priviledged institutions it was an opportunity for equality!!!

Fiona Mortimer
Fiona Mortimer
4 years ago
Reply to  croftyass

How fortunate you were. I attended a huge comprehensive secondary school where the teachers maintained an astonishing amount of discipline amongst pupils who were predominantly working class and who laughed in the face of the physical punishment on offer as it was a tickle compared to the kickings that they regularly received at home. It was fashionable amongst these pupils to resist all attempts to engage their interest and never ever to complete homework assignments.
Prior to the comprehensive system these pupils would likely have attended a secondary modern school where subjects in which they had a perhaps a little interest would have been taught eventually leading to apprenticeships.
I loved school in part because it was an escape from a difficult (middle class) home life but, by simple good fortune or good genes I had sufficient intelligence to find traditional studies extremely satisfying which for many is just not the case.

Ethniciodo Rodenydo
Ethniciodo Rodenydo
4 years ago
Reply to  Fiona Mortimer

I had the benefits of a comprehensive education. The teaching staff looked down on and had no expectations of us. You could see their resignation – what have I done to end up here. Obviously their own children were too good to attend the establishment at which they taught. It was their burden to keep us off the streets until we ready for release into a world of unskilled manual labour or child rearing and they made no pretence otherwise. In fact hoping for anything better was almost discouraged as getting above yourself. The experience left me with a deep loathing of socialism and socialists who seem have no problem with sacrificing the lives of others to satisfy their own political principles.

Fiona Mortimer
Fiona Mortimer
4 years ago

Ah yes, we had one teacher who regularly said that he had spent years at university to end up teaching ‘the likes of you’.

Many of my peers thrived as soon as they left school and the tensions between fitting in with their peers and wanting something more were gone: earning good money was an acceptable ambition; university seen as a useless ambition unless you could become a lawyer, doctor or accountant and make a good living.
I think access to life long learning is the answer.

Fraser Bailey
Fraser Bailey
4 years ago
Reply to  Fiona Mortimer

I went to a comprehensive school in a small town that was actually pretty good, as was the other comp in town. One or two kids went to Oxbridge each year – my teachers wanted me to try for Oxbridge but I wasn’t interested – and some of us got very good A levels even in the years before grade inflation.

Yes, I can recall one or two poor teachers, but far more poor pupils.

There was a wide cross section, everything from council estate kids to those who had grown up in farms in the back of beyond. Looking back, it was all very enjoyable.

7882 fremic
7882 fremic
3 years ago
Reply to  croftyass

My story is the dark mirror side of Vance. He says the poor have to make 100 right choices and are sunk by 10 bad ones, the opposite of the well off. I came from the Upper level, I made 110 bad choices to my 10 good ones, and so hit bottom rather than top in life, leaving school with no education as I refused to do anything told, we (the school and I) had worked an uneasy truce where we both just left each other alone and I was allowed to do nothing in return for me not making them miserable.

So I left school, did menial jobs till I got some money for a flight out (from London) and hit the road and was on it for the next couple decades just living the hard life with the oddballs and down and outs. I learned a lot about things, seeing reality from different angles than most of the people who tell us how life is, from their middle class and better world view.

I should watch this show, it would appear (being a total Trump supporter) we took very different roads to get to the same place view.

Andrew Harvey
Andrew Harvey
4 years ago

I’m wondering how to point out the extreme cluelessness of the author without being unkind. Not sure that a journalist from north London who usually writes about cocktails would know a whole lot about the American working class.

Government policies favouring globalization and immigration are what have created the economic and social catastrophe of the American rust belt. Off-shoring manufacturing to do an end run around American employment and environmental regulations has killed employment in the midwest, while high levels of immigration make it difficult for low skilled workers to move to high growth areas in the US (as my parents did before immigration laws were watered down) where immigrants have bid up housing costs and bid down wages. Oddly, the author doesn’t acknowledge the possibility of reversing those policies when it comes to solving the crisis. Increasing government bureaucracy is never going to solve this problem.

Andre Lower
Andre Lower
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Harvey

Andrew, what do you think about the benefits reaped by the country as a whole from these “demons” you are pointing (e.g. immigration)? Through immigration the country gets better performing citizens, precious cultural assets and exposure to possibilities previously unheard of. Of course the inherent competition is tough on lazy-ass hillbillies, but guess what? They can always step up to the challenge, compete with the immigrant “threat” and advance as much as these immigrants that you seem to hate so much. The aggravating feature of the MAGA crowd is the unfounded belief that they have some sort of sacred social, cultural or racial value that entitles them “patriotic” protection from honest competition. Whether you like it or not, the US will only remain great if it makes sure that such people DON’T get protected, sticking instead with rewarding those that perform better, regardless of race, religion or culture. The sooner bigotry vanishes, the better.

Derek M
Derek M
4 years ago
Reply to  Andre Lower

“Through immigration the country gets better performing citizens, precious cultural assets and exposure to possibilities previously unheard of.” – Really? You clearly don’t live where I do. I don’t know about the US but that’s not the case in the UK in my opinion

Andrew Harvey
Andrew Harvey
4 years ago
Reply to  Andre Lower

California, the state where I grew up, has had the highest levels of immigration in the US for some time, and now has the highest rate of poverty in America. There are people stacked up, dying on the sidewalks, like something from a post apocalyptic horror movie. It is a massively over-populated failed state that can’t even keep the lights on, with a very small number of very, very rich people. Most of those immigrants come from Mexico and only “perform better” in that they are willing to work, legally or illegally, for less money. I come from a mixed race family. This has nothing to do with bigotry — it’s supply and demand (though, honestly, I have no idea of what “possibilities previously unheard of” have ever come out of Michoacan, other than crystal meth.) Government policy in America has been set to screw over the working class, of whatever colour, to the benefit of upper middle class elites and rentier corporations, cheered on by dupes like you.

Andre Lower
Andre Lower
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Harvey

So let’s see: you pick up one example (debatable, but let’s focus here) and try to lean on it to invalidate the ocean of evidence supporting the progress brought by immigrants in the US – and have the nerve to excuse yourself from bigotry? I rest my case… you can’t help blaming other people for your own inability to compete.

Andrew Harvey
Andrew Harvey
4 years ago
Reply to  Andre Lower

Can’t compete, huh? That’s your best insult? I studied labor economics at a top Ivy League university and am quite familiar with the evidence for and against immigration (and which evidence receives attention in the media). I’m more than capable of competing economically with migrants, but this dog-eat-dog world view which you seem to be cheering on has created a disaster for American culture.

L Paw
L Paw
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Harvey

Andrew you have argued cogently and honestly and with it seems real life experience of the US, poverty and inequality there. You studied at a high level & you are from a mixed race background. ‘However you are on the ‘wrong side’, you aren’t liberal enough, you don’t understand the imperative of unregulated immigration, in short you’re a bigot.’
Thank you Andrew, we will win against the nonsense, but we’ve got to keep pointing out the fantasy of the liberal left.

7882 fremic
7882 fremic
3 years ago
Reply to  L Paw

I am a tradesman in USA in my mid 60s. Immigration has been a disaster for the working class! Trades are now mostly done by low skilled Mexicans. The natives no longer can compete with these crews of poorly paid grunts headed by a couple more skilled men, but care nothing at ALL for doing good work, just enough to get paid. The crews do not pay into Social Security, do not carry insurance and workers comp, work extremely unsafely!!!!! pay what ever they can get away with to the illegal members, it is Dickensian!!!! Also the migrants coming off these starter jobs do not progress up the American Dream Ladder, but stay at the bottom rungs for life in most cases. It is much worse than you know!

robert scheetz
robert scheetz
4 years ago
Reply to  Andre Lower

A tile setter, hard physical work, in Florida earned a union wage until the Mexicans (who are at least equally skilled) displaced them at minimum wage and below. Tyson chicken pluckers, again very nasty hard work, used to earn a living wage. Slaughterhouse workers, …nso on. It’s nothing against Mexicans, et. al.; but how would you like to have to compete for your job with someone willing to work for a fraction of the going wage? It’s their old game of using scabs to bust unions and cut labor cost.

R Button
R Button
3 years ago
Reply to  Andre Lower

Andrew didn’t use the word “demons”, so not sure why you did. He was extremely factual…not hateful or bigoted at all. You are the one who added emotion and bias to the debate.

robert scheetz
robert scheetz
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Harvey

What you say of the ravages of neoliberalism on domestic manufacturing and immigrant scabs on the trades is accurate to a T; but, I think the book and this review cut to a deeper level. My home, Youngstown, is “Middletown” plus, with the full set of social pathologies. What it lacks is not strong individuals, but, Communities. Historically, every group of “DP’s” that came here went through its “despised minority” phase and triumphed or not, to one degree or another, by virtue of community morale. The Donald was a supreme, if ironic, example of the author’s “lottery of birth” thesis guaranteeing success despite a lifetime of stunningly idiotic “choices”. But, he’s not the stuff of the Hollywood “success” cliche. Not edifying at all, and rather “Citizen Cane” than “Horatio Alger.” And emphatically not Ayn Rand.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Harvey

“Increasing government bureaucracy is never going to solve this problem.”

Nor is increasing immigration without some sort of rhyme and reason to do so regarding the welfare of the American worker. Immigration has always been good for the USA, but in recent years the quantity and quality of worker did more damage than good.

Andrew Baldwin
Andrew Baldwin
4 years ago

Reading Richard’s review, you would almost think that Vance’s book was a book about Trumpism, or a how-to book on how to fix America’s problems. It isn’t either; it’s a memoir, and a wonderful one. But since Richard brings it up, he should have quoted Vance’s oasis in the desert comment in full, which comes from a 2016 interview, not “Hillbilly Elegy”: “After so many years of Republican politicians refusing to even talk about factory closures, Trump’s message is an oasis in the desert.” Output of the US manufacturing sector decreased by 0.2% from 2013Q4 to 2015Q4, the last three years of the Obama-Biden administration. The output for the first three years of the Trump-Pence administration was 2.5%, then fell due to the China virus. One can debate about how Trump achieved that growth. (I am Canadian, and remember the aluminum tariffs that were just removed, with the threat of re-imposition if export quotas set by US diktat are not observed.) However it’s undeniable that he kept his promise to American workers. It’s delusional, as Richard writes, to say that he offered them only “a cheap thrill”.

Fraser Bailey
Fraser Bailey
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Baldwin

A very good post. As you say, Trump gave the working classes much more than ‘ a cheap thrill’. He gave them some hope, for the first time in decades. And he fulfilled some of that hope.

Hardee Hodges
Hardee Hodges
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Baldwin

Some of those policies ensured Trump’s failure. The amount of money spent to defeat him is staggering and he didn’t get the volume of free press to compensate. That money came from those intent on ensuring lower cost labor and protection for privileged labor. We might hope the next populist will have a less narcissistic streak.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
4 years ago
Reply to  Hardee Hodges

A new-and-improved Trump 2024!

7882 fremic
7882 fremic
3 years ago
Reply to  Cathy Carron

yaaa, got my vote!

A Woodward
A Woodward
4 years ago

What a confused article. Half the time it’s not clear if he is talking about the book or the film or real life. The good decisions part is interesting though. According to the Brookings Institute you only really need to make 3 good choices: 1) at least finish high school, 2) get a full-time job and 3) wait until age 21 to get married and have children. Research shows that of American adults who followed these three simple rules, only about 2″‰percent are in poverty and nearly 75″‰percent have joined the middle class. Admittedly it’s harder for poor people to make these choices, but it’s not exactly a high bar.

Kevin Ryan
Kevin Ryan
4 years ago
Reply to  A Woodward

Finish the thought. If it’s not a high bar why do 35m Americans live below the poverty line?

Andre Lower
Andre Lower
4 years ago
Reply to  Kevin Ryan

Because they can’t compete. Just like Trump, they are anything but “special”, yet fervently believe otherwise. They feel entitled to “the american dream” without ever putting in the effort to inform themselves (other than through Fox “news”), get some serious education and compete as everybody else does. They drank Trump’s koolaid of “let’s blame somebody else”.

Hardee Hodges
Hardee Hodges
4 years ago
Reply to  Kevin Ryan

Generally they lack the education/skills to escape. “At least finish High School”. Once outside the education window they have great difficulty finding a decent job and live a subsistence life. Adult education is rare despite facilities being available. I taught financial literacy to many classes of single mothers desperate to build a better life for themselves and their children. Many are eager to learn but need child care and other services.

Kevin Ryan
Kevin Ryan
4 years ago

I read the book and didn’t find Vance a remotely likeable or admirable character. The book is a mix of misery memoir and self-satisfied autobiography. I’ve met people like Vance before. In the same breath they’ll describe the huge disadvantages of their background and then criticise all their peers who didn’t make it out of the poverty trap. “They had all the breaks I had. Fvck em” is a near verbatim quote I heard once. It’s one thing to grow up with privilege and not understand that others don’t. It’s another to escape poverty by the skin of your teeth and then denounce those who don’t. Fvck him.

Geoffrey Simon Hicking
Geoffrey Simon Hicking
4 years ago

Alot of benefit seekers voted for Boris. Maybe IDS’s compassion was helpful. It wasn’t just Mr “cut U.C” Osborne.

Maybe, just maybe, we need to talk about the ability to forgive these people once they work, to trump their achievements when they begin working. Yes, everyone else is working as hard, but maybe they too deserve more respect as well. Muttering darkly about the “evil scroungers” (go after scrounging NHS managers as well then!) will get you only so far.

Ann Ceely
Ann Ceely
4 years ago

It’s really hard to keep your spirits high enough to look after a family properly if you’ve got no money and no prospects – ever-decreasing circles …
I’m told it takes at least 6 months for someone who’s been on the dole to turn up for work every day – depending on how long they’ve been out of work.
Happily some business owners subsidise a few ‘returners’.

Andrew Baldwin
Andrew Baldwin
4 years ago

Richard writes that Hillbilly Elegy’s “broadsides at ‘welfare queens’ have been mainstream in American politics since at least the Nixon era (when they were commonly directed against African-Americans).” This is obviously a driveby slur against Ronald Reagan, even though he is not mentioned by name. Reagan mentioned “welfare queens” when running for the 1976 presidential nomination. He never spoke about “black welfare queens”. He was basing his account on stories published in the Chicago Tribune starting in September 1974 about Chicago resident Linda Taylor. It was Chicago Tribune journo George Bliss who originated the term “welfare queen” not Reagan, and she was believed to be white by Biss when he wrote his stories. (This strange woman, born in the South, was also listed as white on her Census records, but at various times in her life would pass for black or Jewish, and was believed by some relatives to be mixed race; she possibly had Indigenous or African antecedents.) She did bilk the government out of hundreds of thousands of dollars of welfare funds, and really did drive a Cadillac. Paul Krugman wrote that “the bogus story of the Cadillac-driving welfare queen [was] a gross exaggeration of a minor case of welfare fraud”, which is disinformation on his part. Richard is wrong in saying that attacks on welfare queens have been around “since AT LEAST the Nixon era”, given that the expression dates from Gerald Ford’s presidency.

Fraser Bailey
Fraser Bailey
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Baldwin

Does Krugman ever do anything other than disinformation?

Hardee Hodges
Hardee Hodges
4 years ago
Reply to  Andrew Baldwin

Thanks for the history reminder. Too often notions are presented without the facts to shape a particular narrative. Modern day welfare queens of all races still exist but various government efforts require them to be much more innovative and clever. Drug dealers using food stamps in trade are an issue but the ways around any system clearly get abused.

Brian Hunt
Brian Hunt
4 years ago

The book, I won’t bother with the film, tells an story of achievement against obstacles. But in my view it’s nowhere near as good as Tara Westover’s memoir as told in Educated.

Andrew Baldwin
Andrew Baldwin
4 years ago
Reply to  Brian Hunt

Thank you, Brian. I heard Tara Westover interviewed on radio when the book came out and was really impressed, but forgot all about her book. I will make a point of reading it now.

delljospehrose
delljospehrose
4 years ago

A. W. I think really hit the mark in saying “this is a very confused article.” I would say that even that is being charatible. The issue with Vance’s book is the fetishization of Appalachian culture. I am an Appalachian, from the same town as Vance’s relatives, and I have been appauled at the way this outsider has written about us. Mawkish and truistic, Vance’s book is a pornography in which he inserts his neo-liberal marketing. Appalachia is a complex cultural landscape that is far from the simplistic depiction of Vance, and his unending parade of horror stories. It is furthermore an absolute lie to say that Vance is an Appalachian. As he grew up in Ohio, which although there is a significant Appalachian diasporic presence there, has very different values from Appalachia itself. The manufacturing boomtowns are postwar creations, and far, very far, from the cultural matrix of Appalachia that this huckster is claiming to know.

Arnold Grutt
Arnold Grutt
4 years ago

“very western, every war movie, every film in which a determined
individual rises above a mediocre/corrupt/unbelieving collective to
impose their will upon their fate ” usually with some homilies about the
importance of family, an insistence on absolute Truth, and a bit of
ultra-violence along the way.”

This may well be a description of American ‘Conservatism’, but no real British conservative would recognize it as anything but Fascism. It is Fascism that promotes the ‘populist’ leader. His aim is not really ‘moral individualism’ at all but a desire for a strong man to lead the ‘State (properly understood as ‘the people’, an undifferentiated ‘equal’ mass of compliant followers). He’s really an old-fashioned Roman dictator in modern garb as a tortured but angry victim, who lays waste his enemies and ‘leads’ the people (whose only role is to follow him,. or die for him) to the sunlit uplands. Whatever you call him: Leader, Mr President, The Head of the Commission’ etc. etc. he’s still the same old, rather sentimental (brutality and sentimentality are opposite sides of the same coin, usually sentimentality about ‘dumb’ animals, or ‘the poor’) Statist in disguise What he can never be called of course is ‘Prime Minister’. That requires a constituional permission, and a recognition that (s)he is not the highest in the realm,, over which the Leader rides. or attempts tom ride, roughshod. The glorious Leader is always male.

Cathy Carron
Cathy Carron
4 years ago
Reply to  Arnold Grutt

‘Facism’ is just too facile an explanation, first off because there’s no evidence that it was a factor during the Trump Administration even though liberals air-vaped that perception. The USA has huge problems. We didn’t need the 60-policy-papers that Hillary and now Biden flogs. Trump was voted in because he actually succeeded in addressing and solving huge issues, ie, immigration, getting people to talk in the Middle East again, and yes, Project Warp Speed to get a covid vaccine made in under 12 months. Trump was a doer. Let’s hope he returns in 2024 whilst Biden goes back to Obama’s self-described creed of ‘leading-from-behind’.

R Button
R Button
3 years ago
Reply to  Arnold Grutt

Ha…this is supposed to be funny, right? It’s a big joke, right? First of all, that quote is not an accurate description of the majority of Hollywood movies, and second of all…do you know anything about American politics?

We have a constitution, and 3 branches of government that exist in a Jenga-like structure of checks and balances, so no one branch has more power than the other two. The President is a “supreme” figure in image only, not in practice. Congress + the Supreme Court judges are far more important. And local politics…our country is huge, and each state is so different.

Joseph McCord
Joseph McCord
3 years ago
Reply to  Arnold Grutt

It’s PRETTY BIZARRE to claim that individualism and self-reliance are the same thing, as Fascism.

Is “statism”, to you – having a government, or a nation?

(If there’s going to be a government – then there have to be leaders. Are you arguing – that the U.S. system of government, is inherently fascist – in comparison to the British one? You don’t really sound like a British conservative, to me – these sound like anarchist “perspectives”. Are you not aware that the U.S. Presidency, is a Constitutionally defined institution?)

Mark Knight
Mark Knight
4 years ago

Similar themes discussed in this Quillette article, focused on another underperforming group in the USA.

https://quillette.com/2020/

David Vivian
David Vivian
3 years ago

I think Richard Goodwin makes a mistake many Europeans do in assuming American culture (social, political, and economic) is not very dissimilar to British culture.

I know many successful people who came from similar backgrounds (perhaps not quite a desperate, but poverty stricken nonetheless). They may not be Venture Capitalists or billionaires, but starting and owning an auto body shop, an independent IT consultancy, or an electrical/plumbing contracting business is pretty easy to do and puts one well north of the $100K to $200K (or higher) income range. Most Americans would consider this successful.

There are, relative to Europe, fewer barriers to entry, such as governmental regulations, trade unions, social class structures, etc, to do what you want to make whatever income you want. I can attest to this as, I (career not enabled by college education) and one of my siblings (career based on college degree) are part of this group. Two of my other siblings are not despite being raised together. The difference is 100% based on choices made, delayed gratification, and an American culture where failure isn’t stigmatized.

William Bauer
William Bauer
3 years ago

I am an Orthodox Priest. Once last winter the snow as so cold and deep I invited the survivors to the chapel of ease at my home instead of the Church building (it is in my back yard). One lady would not enter the prorerty because my house is a “trailer.” (18% of homes in my state are classified as mobile homes). It is not “flyover country” to me.