Well said. That was the one jarring bit of an otherwise decent article. Dan Jackson clearly thinks that working in the mills of Lancashire and Yorkshire is better than being married to a good man who wants to look after you and your children.
Too right. Jackie Charlton was merely reaffirming the age old wisdom that made him and people like him what they are. People like the author on the other hand imagine they’ve discovered some new way of being that’s supposed to be automatically superior to the traditional. I’d like him to try and prove Gk Chesterton wrong, to show how it’s better for women to pursue ‘careers’ than motherhood. Better for whom? Might be better for “the economy” but it’s hard to see how it’s better for men and women or their children.
Biggest con ever perpetrated on women in the UK. Many worked full or part time even with a husband. Very many didn’t need to. Until the pecking away at wages, conditions, and runaway inflation created the new cheap workforce and soon, there became an obvious need for two wages to support children and a household. More workers, more product, more money for owners and managers. Then private pensions became a thing. Bosses money protected by the padding out with millions of poorer people’s low incomes. Even more cash tied up requiring two wages to survive, once a massively expanded housing market was created on the back of selling social rented housing that often reduced the need for two wages to get by. Like I said. It was a con. And look at the cost in single parenting, street violence, property crime, and homelessness.
My father was from South Shields, my mother Stevenage and met prewar and married shortly after. Products of their time, dad worked and mum brought us up. Hardly saw my dad, a chef and when not at work down the pub. My mother was the centre of my universe. Our home reflected her, from how it was decorated to how we were fed and brought up. A rather precocious child, I once asked my mother if she’d prefer being the one to have to go to work, why I do not know. Her answer – good lord no my son. My joy is being with my children, I would hate anything else. Raises a difficult question does it not – what role would you prefer?
Josh Cook
3 years ago
Fantastic article
Andrew Anderson
3 years ago
A useful cautionary piece. However, I think the Counter Culture examples are different from the epidemiological ones in an important respect. No doubt there are few David Shors, but what we don’t know is how many others are self-censoring or in other ways pressured by orthodoxy into changing their behaviour. There’s no equivalent for seizure numbers in the children of older men, since child A is no more nor less likely to have a seizure because child B had one.
Robin Lambert
3 years ago
Big Jack and his Generation Largely were Loyal to Clubs even after 1961 threatened Players Strike, they were one step up from the fans.Now the preening Footballers are loyal to the Contract.Now Referees dont Know the difference between A ”Tackle” and a foul,Play acting etc..
Davy Longshanks
3 years ago
The film just made me sad in a way. Close knit traditional working class families and communities. Do they exist anymore and if so who speaks for them?
titan0
3 years ago
In the mid 70s I would joke that apparent recent increases in cancer was as likely caused by the more frequent wearing of blue jeans than smoking. Especially when public house statisticians started on about it. I could prove it on a beer mat or back of a fag packet too.
Recalls GK Chesterton’s great line:
“Feminism is a muddled idea that women are free when they serve their employers but slaves when they help their husbands.”
Well said. That was the one jarring bit of an otherwise decent article. Dan Jackson clearly thinks that working in the mills of Lancashire and Yorkshire is better than being married to a good man who wants to look after you and your children.
Too right. Jackie Charlton was merely reaffirming the age old wisdom that made him and people like him what they are. People like the author on the other hand imagine they’ve discovered some new way of being that’s supposed to be automatically superior to the traditional. I’d like him to try and prove Gk Chesterton wrong, to show how it’s better for women to pursue ‘careers’ than motherhood. Better for whom? Might be better for “the economy” but it’s hard to see how it’s better for men and women or their children.
Biggest con ever perpetrated on women in the UK.
Many worked full or part time even with a husband.
Very many didn’t need to. Until the pecking away at wages, conditions, and runaway inflation created the new cheap workforce and soon, there became an obvious need for two wages to support children and a household.
More workers, more product, more money for owners and managers.
Then private pensions became a thing. Bosses money protected by the padding out with millions of poorer people’s low incomes.
Even more cash tied up requiring two wages to survive, once a massively expanded housing market was created on the back of selling social rented housing that often reduced the need for two wages to get by.
Like I said. It was a con. And look at the cost in single parenting, street violence, property crime, and homelessness.
Absolutely, couldn’t agree more.
My father was from South Shields, my mother Stevenage and met prewar and married shortly after. Products of their time, dad worked and mum brought us up. Hardly saw my dad, a chef and when not at work down the pub. My mother was the centre of my universe. Our home reflected her, from how it was decorated to how we were fed and brought up. A rather precocious child, I once asked my mother if she’d prefer being the one to have to go to work, why I do not know. Her answer – good lord no my son. My joy is being with my children, I would hate anything else. Raises a difficult question does it not – what role would you prefer?
Fantastic article
A useful cautionary piece. However, I think the Counter Culture examples are different from the epidemiological ones in an important respect. No doubt there are few David Shors, but what we don’t know is how many others are self-censoring or in other ways pressured by orthodoxy into changing their behaviour. There’s no equivalent for seizure numbers in the children of older men, since child A is no more nor less likely to have a seizure because child B had one.
Big Jack and his Generation Largely were Loyal to Clubs even after 1961 threatened Players Strike, they were one step up from the fans.Now the preening Footballers are loyal to the Contract.Now Referees dont Know the difference between A ”Tackle” and a foul,Play acting etc..
The film just made me sad in a way. Close knit traditional working class families and communities. Do they exist anymore and if so who speaks for them?
In the mid 70s I would joke that apparent recent increases in cancer was as likely caused by the more frequent wearing of blue jeans than smoking. Especially when public house statisticians started on about it. I could prove it on a beer mat or back of a fag packet too.