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chrisjwmartin
chrisjwmartin
3 years ago

First they came for the statues of slave traders and confederate generals, and many of us applauded.

If you applauded those events, because you didn’t realise at the time that these things never, ever stop where you’re comfortable, then you need to urgently and significantly reassess your outlook on life. The hardest-earned insight of human history is that freedom of expression has to be universal, even for those we hate and despise the most, or it quickly becomes meaningless.

K Sheedy
K Sheedy
3 years ago
Reply to  chrisjwmartin

Tolerate everything except acts of intolerance.
K Popper’s insight is relevant here.

chrisjwmartin
chrisjwmartin
3 years ago
Reply to  K Sheedy

Even this is wrong. Who gets to decide what counts as an act of “intolerance”? If you start announcing that the world is flat, and I try to stop you from teaching flat-earthism to children in schools, am I being intolerant? I don’t think so, but others would. The difference between speech/expression and “acts” is also very important.

aelf
aelf
3 years ago
Reply to  chrisjwmartin

My sympathy for those finding their cherished habits & history under assault after applauding the razing of other’s history & habits is de minimis.

A Spetzari
A Spetzari
3 years ago
Reply to  chrisjwmartin

I read that differently – i think it’s a sardonic reference to Niemöller using the collective “we/us”, so not necessarily the author’s view.

The fact that he’s referencing it shows a self awareness at the very least.

chrisjwmartin
chrisjwmartin
3 years ago
Reply to  A Spetzari

Oh I agree. My comment was aimed more generally than just the author.

philip.davies31
philip.davies31
3 years ago
Reply to  chrisjwmartin

She’s making play with the quotation about the unchecked rise of the Nazis, and is actually using irony to promote the very point you imply she has culpably failed to appreciate. (Oops !)

chrisjwmartin
chrisjwmartin
3 years ago

My comment was aimed broadly at those who applauded. You won’t, I hope, pretend that no one applauded those acts of vandalism. You failed to recognise that I wasn’t personally addressing the author. (Oops !)

philip.davies31
philip.davies31
3 years ago
Reply to  chrisjwmartin

I’ve just made a brief, polite comment on yours. It has been – as mine always are – sequestered, isolated, quarantined and put into lockdown for an incalculable period probably coeval with the infinite span of time that measures the existence of the universe, by a mysterious and unaccountable algorithm. I could easily be persuaded that some kind of malign magic rules in the blackness – sorry! darkness – of the now virtual, digital universe we inhabit.

chrisjwmartin
chrisjwmartin
3 years ago

I think many people’s are, Philip. All of mine go straight into auto-mod too. It’s not just you.

I suggest practising a discreet and seemly patience in the face of this adversity, rather than the eyebrow-raising avalanche of replies you have submitted on this subject.

philip.davies31
philip.davies31
3 years ago
Reply to  chrisjwmartin

So anything more than two comments on a subject is ‘eyebrow-raising’ in your opinion! For the record, I made precisely 2 here, on the subject at issue. Nor do I apologise for my little comedy rant about the irritating and proliferating online tendency to randomly submit one’s carefully-considered views to some mindless algorithm, presiding over such discussions in lieu of an editor.

I do apologise for misinterpreting your original comment, however. I think I may have been having a bad day, and just wanted to pick a fight. Sorry.

philip.davies31
philip.davies31
3 years ago
Reply to  chrisjwmartin

(Are you going to disapprove of this as well?)

philip.davies31
philip.davies31
3 years ago
Reply to  chrisjwmartin

I wanted to reply, but all my innocent comments are now going to dis-approval Limbo – this one too, no doubt.

Ray Hall
Ray Hall
3 years ago

Man was on a plane . He noticed the Pope was in a nearby seat .- “Your Holiness. What are you doing here?”
“Actually , I am doing a cross-word puzzle “
” I like cross-words too, Your Holiness.”
“This clue made me laugh, four letters, ends in u n t , and is female “
” That’s easy , Your Holiness, the solution is aunt “
” Oh , hell, that’s another one I got wrong”

David Bell
David Bell
3 years ago

Regrettable we are in a “one issue” timezone and when a single issue takes control rational thought tends to fade. Right now the single issue is “racism” and it clouds everything. The issues raised in this article fall under the “silence is violence” doctrine.

Under this doctrine a simple game is no longer a game, it is a multi layered argument in which every movement, no matter how small, must be scrutinised, dissected and put back together for it’s racist undertones. The players intention does not enter the equation.

Sean L
Sean L
3 years ago

Sam Leith is himself ‘woke’ insasfar as it stands for repudiation of national identity and demographic displacement of the indigenous who are already a minority in London and will be nationally by 2066 according to Oxford demographer David Coleman. Yet as the scapegoating of native Europeans intensifies, which is bound to be the case as people become conscious of their numerical advantage, he consistently sides with the globalists or ‘anywhereS’. But that’s practically a condition of employment for a journalist.

Paul Blakemore
Paul Blakemore
3 years ago

Listening to the Pogues and Gilbert and Sullivan this week and reading some PG Wodehouse for a little light relief from the endlessly grim news of global crisis. They are all unacceptable to the woke stasi, and will have to go on the bonfire.
What an utterly bleak and humourless future these philistines are trying to forge.
Oh dear, I’ve got some David Starkey DVDs too…

Juilan Bonmottier
Juilan Bonmottier
3 years ago

This surely must be a spoof. What kind of idiot imagines that one can remove humanity’s desire to insult and offend by removing all words which might cause insult and offend? The sheer asininity of it reflects how totally possessed some people are by wokish righteousness -quite beyond all sense and reality.

Katy Randle
Katy Randle
3 years ago

Nicely written article; thank you. I damn well hope it doesn’t catch on – that way madness lies.

Should any of you want to rebel, I can recommend a version friends and I cooked up to play on a very drunken New Year’s Eve once. ONLY rude words allowed. Spell them how you want (so long as you can justify it, which in English is pretty much carte blanche), and you have the perfect right to lie if you can get everyone else to believe that what you put down was a rude word (works best with teachers, who just c**k an eyebrow and suggest you aren’t down with the kids if you challenge them). I can’t remember if anyone has ever won a game, as we’re usually three sheets to the wind before we even start, but it’s great fun.

Nicholas Rynn
Nicholas Rynn
3 years ago

I cannot resist the temptation. From now on I shall refer to anybody adhering to the woke correctness of not using “slur”words as a “scrabble brainer”.

Alex Mitchell
Alex Mitchell
3 years ago

The attacks on tiny and harmless activities only point to the reality that most of the big battles have been won. Those still remaining are too hard, hence the need to signal virtue rather than fix anything. The failure of such interventions to make any meaningful difference is so painfully obvious it does bring into disrepute the description of the typical woke campaigner as an ‘educated elite’. It was obvious to me that scoper (I actually imagined scopey) would replace spastic as soon as the name change was announced and I was only about 12 at the time. Hardly degree level thinking. Although maybe it is, these days.

Robin Lambert
Robin Lambert
3 years ago

It seems the Twitterrati dont Realise Controlling peoples language Is dangerous to democracy, 1984 WAS a Warning NOT a template..wokes are Asleep

Me The first
Me The first
3 years ago

It’s so much easier to weaponise other people’s speech and use it to bully people online than actually do something about it though.

Sandie Lenton
Sandie Lenton
3 years ago

I have always said that it is the tone in which the word is used and not the word itself which is offensive. I can call you a total ankle and you will understand that the word ankle is derogatory!

Chris Jayne
Chris Jayne
3 years ago

Two minor quibbles, one of which may be with the sub editor not author.

1) whenever you use the argument that “X is wrong and anyway there are more important things to focus on” you incentivise your opponent simply upping how serious they consider a problem to be. Argue on its merit, not its relative worth.

2) Naomi Klein is massively wrong (as usual) about her generations efforts on language. Nick Timothy wrote a great piece in the Telegraph outlining the policies and primary legislation which so much of the modern left have claimed their influence over institutions in the U.K. and it harks back decades. Kleins generation won the war By taking out the defences before the real battles were being fought.

gbauer
gbauer
3 years ago

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Hyperbole much? If I play the word “swastika,” does it mean I don’t care about the Holocaust? If I play “slave,” does it mean I support slavery? The woke clearly have too much time on their hands.

gbauer
gbauer
3 years ago

Duplicate by mistake — kindly remove

Dennis Wheeler
Dennis Wheeler
3 years ago

I didn’t even know people still played board games like Scabble.