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Agnieszka Kolek
Agnieszka Kolek
4 years ago

The Israelis live with the reality of death every day. I have never experienced such “here and now” attitude in any other country. Their strength and resilience is admirable. I love their appreciation of life, family and friends. You live with acute awareness that you might not see them tomorrow. Never leave things on a bad note. You might not have a chance to turn it around. Hence, Covid-19 would not create the wave of realisation that tomorrow I might not be here… and jokes related to that.

Arnold Grutt
Arnold Grutt
4 years ago

I disagree that humour needs to be offensive in order to make us laugh. Offensiveness is a normal feature of human life, but few laugh at it I would say. They normally find it repressive and boring. I think Chesterton was closer when he basically split humour in two: wit and comedy. So wit is ‘intellectual’. Its aim is to give pleasure in the arttistic and virtuosic wielding of language – and it is usually aimed at equals in intellectual understanding. To use it deliberately against the less intelligent is snobbish. Then’s there’s comedy which he equated to the basic idea that we find the loss of human dignity funny because we have that dignity by virtue of our status in the cosmos (he implicitly makes dignity a matter of religious evaluation). So a man treads on a banana skin, man slips, man lands on bottom. All laugh instinctively at this (especially children). However if a penguin were to slip on a banana skin we do not necessarily find this funny (nor do penguins). If a tree falls over (another example of his) we don’t find that funny at all. In fact we have to anthropomorphise animals or plants (e.g. genital-shaped vegetables) in order to find them amusing (e.g. the penguin’s walk, which appears to lots of people as funny because a penguin looks like a failed approximation to a human when it walks – it functions as a proxy for our own occasional waddling lack of dignity cf. chimps failing to drink tea at a dinner correctly). Even satire should have at its core some recognition of human dignity, and its point would be to reform, to shame by comparison to some minimal standard of moral human bahviour. What passes for it nowadays is mostly left-wing witless oiffensiveness, and boring self-regard.

As to dignity there is an immediate way to spot a psychopath. He’s the person who, when someone ‘slips on a banana skin’, continues to laugh even when he realises the person is badly injured and can’t get up, when normal people would stop laughing. I’ve actually met one of those. He’s now a lawyer.

Michael Joseph
Michael Joseph
4 years ago

I’ve always liked Romain Gary’s take: “Comedy is a safe house where serious things can find refuge and survive”.

Alison Houston
Alison Houston
4 years ago

The only Jewish jokes I know are about death and the only jokes about death I know are Jewish jokes. I think your wife was just sick of you being holier than thou and decided to undermine you by othering your sense of humour.

Mark Corby
Mark Corby
4 years ago

One major problem is that this plague tends to be disproportionately culling, the Fat, the Black and the Old.
Any humour, however well meaning, cannot be directed at this triumvirate. It is completely verboten.
Therefore the macabre is the only option.

Fraser Bailey
Fraser Bailey
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark Corby

‘Take my mother-in-law. Covid-19 did’

‘I’ve signed the mother-in-law up for Kung Flu lessons’

Ba-boom! If only Bernard Manning were still with us. (Actually, C-19 would have done for him pretty quickly, I guess).

Mark Corby
Mark Corby
4 years ago
Reply to  Fraser Bailey

I’m puzzled why China can’t be like India and play a decent game of cricket? Then I realised, they’ve eaten all the bats!
Apologies to Bernard Manning.R.I.P.

Fraser Bailey
Fraser Bailey
4 years ago

Funny yet not funny is the fact that the Dutch have just announced that paintings featuring scenarios in which people are not social distancing will be removed from the Rijksmuseum etc. So no ‘Nightwatch’ and not much of Frans Hals or any of those old paintings of people gathering around Jesus in his crib or on the cross. Quite a few Breitners will have to go. along with various painting by de Hooch and Vermeer. There won’t be much left except for a few van Gogh haystacks and those Mondrians.

Mark Corby
Mark Corby
4 years ago
Reply to  Fraser Bailey

I wonder if the Chinese will be impressed? The land of William the Silent descending to such ludicrous cant!
It used to said that “life is short but Art is long”. Something is seriously amiss here.

Fraser Bailey
Fraser Bailey
4 years ago
Reply to  Mark Corby

Before UnHerd is sued for disseminating fake news, I should own up to the fact that my post is a joke, based on my close and contemporary knowledge of politics in Amsterdam. But it’s just the kind of thing that the current (progressive)* mayor would do, which is why Dutch friends believed me when I told them the story.

Funnily enough I read a biography of William the Silent last year.

*Progressive except when it comes to her kids’ schooling. She removed one or more of them from a black/Islamic primary school.

Mark Corby
Mark Corby
4 years ago
Reply to  Fraser Bailey

Well done! You got me hook, line, and sinker!
It seemed so eminently plausible in these ‘chaotic’ times.
Humour, as you have proved, is the best riposte.

johntshea2
johntshea2
4 years ago

Amen! Humour can indeed be the best medicine. But I do think Mrs. Fraser is actually joking about not joking, given how much humour and masters of humour are Jewish.

heslin415
heslin415
4 years ago

I’m more inclined to believe it’s a universal thing to laugh at offensive matters and use it as a coping mechanism although different people might find different matters offensive/funny due to cultural differences. Good job Giles!