Yes! This very important topic and the case of the Yorkshire Ripper reminds me of the 1989 book by Joan Smith titled Misogynies. Among other things it features an essay on Sutcliffe. Joan also has a website.
Claire D
3 years ago
I think you are misinterpreting what you hear Julie. Sutcliffe was a lunatic, as are all serial killers, your feminism will achieve nothing where insanity is involved. And the harsh talk such as “she had it coming etc” I suggest is old-fashioned disapproval of loose morals and one way of putting out the message that being a prostitute is dangerous. Many of such men (and women) who talk like that are fathers, parents, who dread their daughters or any other female relative descending into prostitution and danger. While I sympathise with your idealism, a world without hatred and violence can only be a fantasy.
Your focus on only violence against women is a bit strange considering at least twice as many men are murdered each year in this country, why don’t you care about male victims ? Do you not like men ?
Julie makes some fair points which appear to be based on lived experiences, facts and probably research, as that is her job. I agree with you Claire that Sutcliffe was not of sound mind, no-one can be if they do the sort of things he did. However, I find some of your other comments dismissive of the realities and I cannot see they are based on research, lived experiences or facts. If they are please share.
If you also look up the vast research into and information on violence against women, and the various areas it covers, you may also learn something about the stats you quote. Julie is undoubtedly not saying she doesn’t care about male victims of violence and crime, who would. However, she is talking about a real issue that unfortunately does still exist. There have been some things change and progress, and there have been some things that haven’t.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I found yours very dismissive and somewhat rude to some valid points and observations Julie made.
Yes! This very important topic and the case of the Yorkshire Ripper reminds me of the 1989 book by Joan Smith titled Misogynies. Among other things it features an essay on Sutcliffe.
Joan also has a website.
I think you are misinterpreting what you hear Julie. Sutcliffe was a lunatic, as are all serial killers, your feminism will achieve nothing where insanity is involved. And the harsh talk such as “she had it coming etc” I suggest is old-fashioned disapproval of loose morals and one way of putting out the message that being a prostitute is dangerous. Many of such men (and women) who talk like that are fathers, parents, who dread their daughters or any other female relative descending into prostitution and danger.
While I sympathise with your idealism, a world without hatred and violence can only be a fantasy.
Your focus on only violence against women is a bit strange considering at least twice as many men are murdered each year in this country, why don’t you care about male victims ?
Do you not like men ?
Julie makes some fair points which appear to be based on lived experiences, facts and probably research, as that is her job. I agree with you Claire that Sutcliffe was not of sound mind, no-one can be if they do the sort of things he did. However, I find some of your other comments dismissive of the realities and I cannot see they are based on research, lived experiences or facts. If they are please share.
If you also look up the vast research into and information on violence against women, and the various areas it covers, you may also learn something about the stats you quote. Julie is undoubtedly not saying she doesn’t care about male victims of violence and crime, who would. However, she is talking about a real issue that unfortunately does still exist. There have been some things change and progress, and there have been some things that haven’t.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but I found yours very dismissive and somewhat rude to some valid points and observations Julie made.