Of course Keir Starmer and Giorgia Meloni get on like a house of fire. Centrism and right-wing populism are con tricks to sell exactly the same economic and foreign policies to different audiences by pretending to wage a culture war. Fascism is inherent in both of them, and it never arises except by their joint enterprise.
While pre-existing conservative phenomena have been known to ally with Fascism, usually to their own ruin, it is the liberal bourgeoisie that keeps Fascism in reserve for when it might ever face any serious demand to share its economic or social power with anyone who did not have it before the rise of the bourgeois liberal order, or to share its cultural or political power with anyone at all.
Thus, both Starmer and Meloni welcomed the appointment of Michel Barnier by Emmanuel Macron because that was who Marine Le Pen wanted, or could at least work with, to keep out the New Popular Front. A Fascist movement never gets anywhere unless it has been at least cultivated and often directly created by the likes of Starmer and Macron, they will always back it against the Left because that is why they have it, and no Fascist has ever come to power except by some form of that arrangement. Nor ever will.
UnHerd Reader
3 months ago
If Ms. Abbott wants to see a “literal fascist,” a quick glance in any nearby mirror will fulfill that desire.
And according to The Telegraph it’s the next go to holiday destination… Croatia and Montenegro are so last year. What’s not to like?
Lancashire Lad
3 months ago
Regarding the political stances of US businesses:
While this is down from 48% in 2022, it is still high enough for companies to feel as if they are pleasing a significant number of customers when they get political.
That’s assuming those who think businesses should have a political stance actually agree with that stance!! Duh.
A bit thick, I think. Last week she accuses someone of being a ra*ist, this week a fas*cist, next a sex*st. She is just too old and boring to do the job properly.
Of course Keir Starmer and Giorgia Meloni get on like a house on fire. Centrism and right-wing populism are con tricks to sell exactly the same economic and foreign policies to different audiences by pretending to wage a culture war. Fascism is inherent in both of them, and it never arises except by their joint enterprise.
While pre-existing conservative phenomena have been known to ally with Fascism, usually to their own ruin, it is the liberal bourgeoisie that keeps Fascism in reserve for when it might ever face any serious demand to share its economic or social power with anyone who did not have it before the rise of the bourgeois liberal order, or to share its cultural or political power with anyone at all.
Thus, both Starmer and Meloni welcomed the appointment of Michel Barnier by Emmanuel Macron because that was who Marine Le Pen wanted, or could at least work with, to keep out the New Popular Front. A Fascist movement never gets anywhere unless it has been at least cultivated and often directly created by the likes of Starmer and Macron, they will always back it against the Left because that is why they have it, and no Fascist has ever come to power except by some form of that arrangement. Nor ever will.
it is the liberal bourgeoisie that keeps Fascism in reserve
Sorry, but these attempts to explain contemporary political phenomena by reference to defunct ideologies from the past obscure more than they illuminate. Our current discontents are driven by opposition to the open borders globalism that makes the ‘liberal bourgeoisie’ wealthier at the expense of the blue collar classes. It is the liberal bourgeoisie themselves who stigmatise this opposition as ‘fascist’. They have no more interest in promoting fascism than they do in controlling the borders or making the trains run on time. The term itself should be as taboo as the ‘N’ word.
Kiddo Cook
3 months ago
The babbling L’Oreal syrup strikes again. The Abbottross is literally worth it.
UnHerd Reader
3 months ago
Perhaps a glance in a mirror would help the gentle lady see an actual fascist.
Hugh Bryant
3 months ago
Yeah, literal fascists, they’re the worst. People who tick you off for saying ‘less’ instead of ‘fewer’. Hanging’s too good for ’em.
Dylan Blackhurst
3 months ago
Am I the only one that sees the 666 in the salary of ‘Head of Racial Justice’ as troubling coming from the Diocese of London?
Dougie Undersub
3 months ago
What does Starmer hope to learn? The Right way to tackle illegal migration, presumably.
Francisco Menezes
3 months ago
When is Diane Abbott up for Damehood? She is the gift that keeps on giving. Done so much for society, a true pillar. She deserves it.
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SubscribeOf course Keir Starmer and Giorgia Meloni get on like a house of fire. Centrism and right-wing populism are con tricks to sell exactly the same economic and foreign policies to different audiences by pretending to wage a culture war. Fascism is inherent in both of them, and it never arises except by their joint enterprise.
While pre-existing conservative phenomena have been known to ally with Fascism, usually to their own ruin, it is the liberal bourgeoisie that keeps Fascism in reserve for when it might ever face any serious demand to share its economic or social power with anyone who did not have it before the rise of the bourgeois liberal order, or to share its cultural or political power with anyone at all.
Thus, both Starmer and Meloni welcomed the appointment of Michel Barnier by Emmanuel Macron because that was who Marine Le Pen wanted, or could at least work with, to keep out the New Popular Front. A Fascist movement never gets anywhere unless it has been at least cultivated and often directly created by the likes of Starmer and Macron, they will always back it against the Left because that is why they have it, and no Fascist has ever come to power except by some form of that arrangement. Nor ever will.
If Ms. Abbott wants to see a “literal fascist,” a quick glance in any nearby mirror will fulfill that desire.
Where is my comment?
That’s almost Zen.
Ha ha. Well said.
Easy to see why Albania might be happy to import some people; almost all the Albanians are already in the UK and other countries. Bit ironic.
And according to The Telegraph it’s the next go to holiday destination… Croatia and Montenegro are so last year. What’s not to like?
Regarding the political stances of US businesses:
That’s assuming those who think businesses should have a political stance actually agree with that stance!! Duh.
Dianne Abbott is a literal idiot
A bit thick, I think. Last week she accuses someone of being a ra*ist, this week a fas*cist, next a sex*st. She is just too old and boring to do the job properly.
You wrote the words right out of my keyboard.
Aaah no, this is yet another Claire D, there seem to be several of us.
Why does UnHerd allow it ?
It’s so confusing.
I think I’ll change my name to Claire D.
Of course Keir Starmer and Giorgia Meloni get on like a house on fire. Centrism and right-wing populism are con tricks to sell exactly the same economic and foreign policies to different audiences by pretending to wage a culture war. Fascism is inherent in both of them, and it never arises except by their joint enterprise.
While pre-existing conservative phenomena have been known to ally with Fascism, usually to their own ruin, it is the liberal bourgeoisie that keeps Fascism in reserve for when it might ever face any serious demand to share its economic or social power with anyone who did not have it before the rise of the bourgeois liberal order, or to share its cultural or political power with anyone at all.
Thus, both Starmer and Meloni welcomed the appointment of Michel Barnier by Emmanuel Macron because that was who Marine Le Pen wanted, or could at least work with, to keep out the New Popular Front. A Fascist movement never gets anywhere unless it has been at least cultivated and often directly created by the likes of Starmer and Macron, they will always back it against the Left because that is why they have it, and no Fascist has ever come to power except by some form of that arrangement. Nor ever will.
it is the liberal bourgeoisie that keeps Fascism in reserve
Sorry, but these attempts to explain contemporary political phenomena by reference to defunct ideologies from the past obscure more than they illuminate. Our current discontents are driven by opposition to the open borders globalism that makes the ‘liberal bourgeoisie’ wealthier at the expense of the blue collar classes. It is the liberal bourgeoisie themselves who stigmatise this opposition as ‘fascist’. They have no more interest in promoting fascism than they do in controlling the borders or making the trains run on time. The term itself should be as taboo as the ‘N’ word.
The babbling L’Oreal syrup strikes again. The Abbottross is literally worth it.
Perhaps a glance in a mirror would help the gentle lady see an actual fascist.
Yeah, literal fascists, they’re the worst. People who tick you off for saying ‘less’ instead of ‘fewer’. Hanging’s too good for ’em.
Am I the only one that sees the 666 in the salary of ‘Head of Racial Justice’ as troubling coming from the Diocese of London?
What does Starmer hope to learn? The Right way to tackle illegal migration, presumably.
When is Diane Abbott up for Damehood? She is the gift that keeps on giving. Done so much for society, a true pillar. She deserves it.