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What happens during puberty? And what happens if we try to stop it? It’s one of the most fraught questions of our time. Given its significance and the vulnerability of the people it involves, you might be surprised to learn that there have been more studies assessing the impact of puberty blockers on cognitive function in animals than humans. Of the 16 studies that have specifically examined the impact of puberty blockers on cognitive function, 11 have been conducted in animals. And most found some detrimental impact on cognitive function when the researchers gave these drugs to mice, sheep or monkeys.
The sheep studies were particularly interesting as they used twin lambs, administering the puberty blockers to only one in the pair. More than one year after stopping the medication, the sheep who had taken the puberty blockers had still not “caught up” with their untreated siblings in their ability to complete a test of spatial memory. It can, however, be fairly argued that we can only extrapolate so much from the abilities of sheep to remember the way through a maze of hay bales. It is really the studies in humans that are of most interest to those considering prescribing or taking these drugs.
Yet such studies are hard to come by. There are only five that have looked at the impact of puberty blockers on cognitive function in children, and only three of these have looked at these effects in adolescents given the medication for gender dysphoria. In one of these studies, the researchers didn’t measure how well the children were doing before they administered the drugs, so it is difficult to know whether the subsequent difficulties they had on a strategy task could be attributed to the medication. A second study established an excellent baseline, and the researchers employed a gold-standard measure to test the cognitive abilities of the children in the programme before they started the puberty blockers.
Unfortunately, they didn’t re-administer these tests to assess the impact of the medication, but chose instead to report how many of a subset of these children completed a vocational education and how many completed a higher vocational education years later. No outcomes at all were reported on 40% of the children who started out in the study. The final study, however, was beautifully designed: the researchers assessed IQ prior to the administration of puberty blockers and regularly monitored the impact of the treatment over 28 months on a comprehensive battery of cognitive tasks. The results were concerning and suggested an overall drop in IQ of 10 points which extended to 15 points in verbal comprehension. But regrettably, this was a single case study, and while alarming, the conclusions we can draw from one person’s experience are limited.
Last year, I wrote a paper to summarise the results of these studies. The paper explained in relatively simple terms why we might think that blocking puberty in young people could impact their cognitive development. In a nutshell: puberty doesn’t just trigger the development of secondary sex characteristics; it is a really important time in the development of brain function and structure. My review of the medical literature highlighted that while there is a fairly solid scientific basis to suspect that any process that interrupts puberty will have an impact on brain development, nobody has really bothered to look at this properly in children with gender dysphoria.
I didn’t call for puberty blockers to be banned. Most medical treatments have some side effects and the choice of whether to take them depends on a careful analysis of the risk/benefit ratio for each patient. My paper didn’t conduct this kind of analysis, although others have and have judged the evidence to be so weak that these treatments can only be viewed as experimental. My summary merely provided one piece of the jigsaw. I concluded my manuscript with a list of outstanding questions and called for further research to answer these questions, as every review of the medical literature in any field always does.
As a scientific paper, it was not ground-breaking — reviews rarely are. But by summarising the research so far, I thought it would serve as a convenient resource for the numerous authorities currently examining the efficacy of these treatments. It also provided key information for parents and children currently considering medical options. Every patient needs to be aware of what doctors do and do not know about any elective treatment if they are going to make an informed decision about going ahead. Doctors have a duty of candour to provide this.
I was surprised at just how little, and how low quality, the evidence was in this field. I was also concerned that clinicians working in gender medicine continue to describe the impacts of puberty blockers as “completely physically reversible”, when it is clear that we just don’t know whether this is the case, at least with respect to the cognitive impact. But these were not the only troubling aspects of this project. The progress of this paper towards publication has been extraordinary, and unique in my three-decades-long experience of academic publishing.
The paper has now been accepted for publication in a well-respected, peer-reviewed journal. However, prior to this, the manuscript was submitted to three academic journals, all of whom rejected it. “Academic has paper rejected from journal” is not headline news. I have published many academic papers and have also served on the editorial boards of a number of high impact scientific journals. I have both delivered and received rejections. In high-quality journals, many more papers are rejected than accepted. The reasons for rejection are usually a variation on the themes that the paper isn’t telling us anything new or that the data is weak and doesn’t support the conclusions that the authors are trying to draw. In a paper that is reviewing other studies, reasons for rejection typically include criticisms of the ways the authors have looked for or selected the studies they have included in their review, with the implication that they may have missed a big chunk of evidence. Sometimes the subject of the review is too wide, too narrow or too niche to be of value to the wider readership.
While imperfect, anonymous peer review remains the foundation of scientific publishing. Theoretically, the anonymity releases reviewers from any inhibitions they may have in telling their esteemed colleagues that, on this occasion, they appear to have produced a pile of pants. When it works well, authors and editors receive a coherent critique of the submitted manuscript, with reviewers independently highlighting — and ideally converging — on the strengths and weaknesses of the paper. If done sloppily, or if the reviewers have been poorly selected, the author may be presented with a commentary on their work that is riddled with misunderstandings and inaccuracies. Requests for information already provided are common, as are suggestions that the author include reference to the anonymous reviewer’s own body of work, however tangential to the matter in hand. I have been on the receiving end of both the best and worst of these practices over the course of my career. However, I have never encountered the kinds of concerns that some of the reviewers expressed in response to my review of puberty blockers. In this case, it wasn’t the methods they objected to, it was the actual findings.
None of the reviewers identified any studies that I had missed that demonstrated safe and reversible impacts of puberty blockers on cognitive development, or presented any evidence contrary to my conclusions that the work just hasn’t been done. However, one suggested the evidence may be out there, it just hadn’t been published. They suggested that I trawl through non-peer reviewed conference presentations to look for unpublished studies that might tell a more positive story. The reviewer appeared to be under the naïve apprehension that studies proving that puberty blockers were safe and effective would have difficulty being published. The very low quality of studies in this field, and the positive spin on any results reported by gender clinicians suggest that this is unlikely to be the case.
Another reviewer expressed concerns that publishing the conclusions from these studies risked stigmatising an already stigmatised group. A third suggested that I should focus on the positive things that puberty blockers could do, while a fourth suggested there was no point in publishing a review when there wasn’t enough literature to review. Another sought to diminish an entire field of neuroscience that has established puberty as a critical period of brain development as “my view”.
In a rather telling response, one of the reviewers used religious language to criticise the paper. They argued that the sex-based terms I had employed to describe the children in the studies — natal sex, male-to-female, female-to-male — indicated a pre-existing scepticism about the use of blockers. They suggested that the very presence of these terms would cause people who prescribe these medications to “outright dismiss the article”, and went on to say that by using these terms the paper was “preaching to the choir” and would do a “poor job of attracting new members to the fold”. However, the most astonishing response I received was from a reviewer who was concerned that I appeared to be approaching the topic from a “bias” of heavy caution. This reviewer argued that lots of things needed to be sorted out before a clear case for the “riskiness” of puberty blockers could be made, even circumstantially. Indeed, they appeared to be advocating for a default position of assuming medical treatments are safe, until proven otherwise.
Yet “safe and fully reversible” can never be the default position for any medical intervention, never mind a treatment that is now deemed experimental by authorities in Europe and the UK. Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence, and the only extraordinary evidence here is the gaping chasm of knowledge, or even apparent curiosity, of the clinicians who continue to chant “safe and completely reversible” as they prescribe these medications to the children in their care. It is not the job of a scientific paper to “bring people into the fold”; it is the job of clinicians to understand the evidence base of the treatments they offer and communicate this to the patients they are treating.
I sincerely hope that any arrest in brain development associated with puberty blockers is recoverable for young trans and gender diverse people, who are already facing significant challenges in their lives. I would welcome any research that indicates that this is the case, not least for the significant insights that would present to our current understanding of puberty as a critical window of neurodevelopment in adolescence. Puberty blockers almost invariably set young people on a course of lifetime medicalisation with high personal, physical and social costs. At present we cannot guarantee that cognitive costs are not added to this burden. Any clinician claiming their treatments are “safe and reversible” without evidence to back it up is failing in their fundamental duty of candour to their patients. Such an approach is unacceptable in any branch of medicine, not least that dealing with highly complex and vulnerable young people.
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SubscribeIt’s not just the response to Covid that has caused children anxiety, the eco-fanatics are also doing their best to scare them out of their wits. It’s utterly reprehensible.
It’s not just the response to Covid that has caused children anxiety, the eco-fanatics are also doing their best to scare them out of their wits. It’s utterly reprehensible.
What about the 2 main questions ;
1 Did the lockdowns save more lives than they caused deaths ?
2 Did the vaccines save more lives than they caused deaths ?
It’s all just a multi-million pound smokescreen.
Cui bono ?
Where did the money go ?
Exactly!
But will we EVER get the truth ? No, not a chance in hell.
Consummatum est!
“2 Did the vaccines save more lives than they caused deaths ?”
The answer is yes. The analysis done after the fact shows this to be the case.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00320-6/fulltext#:~:text=Based%20on%20official%20reported%20COVID,%2C%20and%20Dec%208%2C%202021.
The complicating factor is that this analysis can only be modelled. You can’t go out into the world and actually count what would have happened otherwise, because it didn’t happen.
So if you are minded to distrust this kind of evidence or the people who produce it, then you are likely to dismiss it.
“1. Did the lockdowns save more lives than they caused deaths ?”
I think this is the nub of the matter, although I’m not sure focusing on deaths alone is necessarily the right way to consider it. The long term harm done to children’s education and social development will negatively impact many of them even if they live to 100.
My guess is that lockdown probably did save some lives (and was notably successful in place like New Zealand which because of population density, geography etc was able to isolate itself). But few people properly asked the question, how many lives saved justifies the harm done to children, the economy, mental health etc etc?
Which is a hard question to ask, of course, but pandemics ask hard questions of policy makers.
We won’t know for years as to wether lockdowns and the vaccines saved lives, and that’s if we ask the right questions. We’re still currently experiencing excess deaths, compared to pre pandemic times, which are non Covid. I’m sure there was an article in UnHerd, that the ONS, stated that life expectancy has drop by nearly 1 year.
We won’t know for years as to wether lockdowns and the vaccines saved lives, and that’s if we ask the right questions. We’re still currently experiencing excess deaths, compared to pre pandemic times, which are non Covid. I’m sure there was an article in UnHerd, that the ONS, stated that life expectancy has drop by nearly 1 year.
Sweden’s inquiry concluded they made good decisions (decisions I happen to agree with, but not my point here).
I rather suspect we will conclude broadly the same – if mistakes were made, they were understandable. I suspect most such inquiries will conclude the same. Afterall, if significant mistakes were made, somebody might have to be held to account.
165 million people slipped back into poverty because of lockdowns. Absolutely anyone with an ounce of common sense could predict that outcome. That’s why lockdowns were considered a non-starter prior to covid.
“Where did the money go ?”
That’s far right, white supremacist, fascist talk.
Thankfully, soon after COVID ended, Ukraine kicked off so that we could further trash the economy and find a use for those surplus billions that we have no use for.
Exactly!
But will we EVER get the truth ? No, not a chance in hell.
Consummatum est!
“2 Did the vaccines save more lives than they caused deaths ?”
The answer is yes. The analysis done after the fact shows this to be the case.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/PIIS1473-3099(22)00320-6/fulltext#:~:text=Based%20on%20official%20reported%20COVID,%2C%20and%20Dec%208%2C%202021.
The complicating factor is that this analysis can only be modelled. You can’t go out into the world and actually count what would have happened otherwise, because it didn’t happen.
So if you are minded to distrust this kind of evidence or the people who produce it, then you are likely to dismiss it.
“1. Did the lockdowns save more lives than they caused deaths ?”
I think this is the nub of the matter, although I’m not sure focusing on deaths alone is necessarily the right way to consider it. The long term harm done to children’s education and social development will negatively impact many of them even if they live to 100.
My guess is that lockdown probably did save some lives (and was notably successful in place like New Zealand which because of population density, geography etc was able to isolate itself). But few people properly asked the question, how many lives saved justifies the harm done to children, the economy, mental health etc etc?
Which is a hard question to ask, of course, but pandemics ask hard questions of policy makers.
Sweden’s inquiry concluded they made good decisions (decisions I happen to agree with, but not my point here).
I rather suspect we will conclude broadly the same – if mistakes were made, they were understandable. I suspect most such inquiries will conclude the same. Afterall, if significant mistakes were made, somebody might have to be held to account.
165 million people slipped back into poverty because of lockdowns. Absolutely anyone with an ounce of common sense could predict that outcome. That’s why lockdowns were considered a non-starter prior to covid.
“Where did the money go ?”
That’s far right, white supremacist, fascist talk.
Thankfully, soon after COVID ended, Ukraine kicked off so that we could further trash the economy and find a use for those surplus billions that we have no use for.
What about the 2 main questions ;
1 Did the lockdowns save more lives than they caused deaths ?
2 Did the vaccines save more lives than they caused deaths ?
It’s all just a multi-million pound smokescreen.
Cui bono ?
Where did the money go ?
If the way we treat children is a reflection on society, then we are doomed. Children have become ideological pawns, to be used and discarded by adults to advance their cause du jour.
It’s not only Covid. Climate alarmists have brainwashed children into thinking the world will end, creating an army of little activists who will promote their agenda. Who cares if we create a generation of children riddled with anxiety, or a generation that will never enjoy the wealth and privilege of their parents?
Gender activists will literally encourage children to undergo life-altering medical interventions in some twisted ideological crusade to legitimize their lifestyle. And millions of enablers and cowards just let it happen.
If the way we treat children is a reflection on society, then we are doomed. Children have become ideological pawns, to be used and discarded by adults to advance their cause du jour.
It’s not only Covid. Climate alarmists have brainwashed children into thinking the world will end, creating an army of little activists who will promote their agenda. Who cares if we create a generation of children riddled with anxiety, or a generation that will never enjoy the wealth and privilege of their parents?
Gender activists will literally encourage children to undergo life-altering medical interventions in some twisted ideological crusade to legitimize their lifestyle. And millions of enablers and cowards just let it happen.
Agree.
The initial lockdown and school closure – understandable. Lockdown 2 – no and Govt incompetency alongside potential vested interests should be part of the Inquiry.
Personally I’d hope the Inquiry also touches on the potential harm over-exposure to social media and smart technologies at a young age, which even before the pandemic were arguably driving changes in child development we have yet to fully understand and fully appreciate. The pandemic then may have further accelerated this trend.
Agree.
The initial lockdown and school closure – understandable. Lockdown 2 – no and Govt incompetency alongside potential vested interests should be part of the Inquiry.
Personally I’d hope the Inquiry also touches on the potential harm over-exposure to social media and smart technologies at a young age, which even before the pandemic were arguably driving changes in child development we have yet to fully understand and fully appreciate. The pandemic then may have further accelerated this trend.
When one considers life-years lost (as used to be factored into public health decision making prior to everything being thrown out of the window in 2020), the youth appear to have been hit even harder.
Based on a life expectancy of 82, the death of an 80 year old means 2 years of life lost. The death of an 18 year old is 64 years lost (32 x 80 year olds).
I’m sick of this “Lockdowns saved lives” nonsense. No intervention has ever “saved” a life. We all die. Interventions may extend lives and public health used to attempt to calculate how many and by how much. Seemingly not any more.
Whenever I see someone use the phrase “lives saved”, I know that there is an ignorance that will be associated with large amounts of irrationality.
When one considers life-years lost (as used to be factored into public health decision making prior to everything being thrown out of the window in 2020), the youth appear to have been hit even harder.
Based on a life expectancy of 82, the death of an 80 year old means 2 years of life lost. The death of an 18 year old is 64 years lost (32 x 80 year olds).
I’m sick of this “Lockdowns saved lives” nonsense. No intervention has ever “saved” a life. We all die. Interventions may extend lives and public health used to attempt to calculate how many and by how much. Seemingly not any more.
Whenever I see someone use the phrase “lives saved”, I know that there is an ignorance that will be associated with large amounts of irrationality.
To begin with, until March 16, 2020, the scientific status quo on lockdowns was univocal: their efficacy is low, their consequences are dire, and they should be treated as a last resort. The 2014 Ebola lockdown in Sierra Leone was the ultimate case in point. As reported by media outlets in 2014, the Doctors Without Borders (MSF) group repeatedly warned against such measures. The MSF representatives argued that lockdowns (1) do not contain the spread of the virus and (2) aggravate the epidemic by concealing potential cases. As expected, they led to extreme food and water shortages and riots across the country. And indeed, a similar scenario was witnessed across the USA and Europe from the summer of 2020 onwards. This should not come as a surprise: studies show that in isolated humans and mice, the levels of tachykinins (TaC1 and TaC2) rise to very high levels: and increased levels of these neuropeptides increase anxiety, a sense of friction with the world and, ultimately, aggression.
Cohen and Lipsitch argued (2008) that the epidemic theory advises against strict interventions because the spread of viruses “can paradoxically increase the burden of disease in a population.” This is why the 2019 WHO’s influenza pandemic plan advocated strictly against measures such as social isolation, border closures, travel bans, and mass quarantines. Health Center at John Hopkins University’s report titled Preparedness for a High-impact Respiratory Pandemic confirmed similar conclusions, where movement restrictions are advised against due to their low efficacy against highly-transmissible pathogens that are spread through airborne mechanisms.
There you go; similar scientific studies and real-life cases can be quoted ad nauseam.
To begin with, until March 16, 2020, the scientific status quo on lockdowns was univocal: their efficacy is low, their consequences are dire, and they should be treated as a last resort. The 2014 Ebola lockdown in Sierra Leone was the ultimate case in point. As reported by media outlets in 2014, the Doctors Without Borders (MSF) group repeatedly warned against such measures. The MSF representatives argued that lockdowns (1) do not contain the spread of the virus and (2) aggravate the epidemic by concealing potential cases. As expected, they led to extreme food and water shortages and riots across the country. And indeed, a similar scenario was witnessed across the USA and Europe from the summer of 2020 onwards. This should not come as a surprise: studies show that in isolated humans and mice, the levels of tachykinins (TaC1 and TaC2) rise to very high levels: and increased levels of these neuropeptides increase anxiety, a sense of friction with the world and, ultimately, aggression.
Cohen and Lipsitch argued (2008) that the epidemic theory advises against strict interventions because the spread of viruses “can paradoxically increase the burden of disease in a population.” This is why the 2019 WHO’s influenza pandemic plan advocated strictly against measures such as social isolation, border closures, travel bans, and mass quarantines. Health Center at John Hopkins University’s report titled Preparedness for a High-impact Respiratory Pandemic confirmed similar conclusions, where movement restrictions are advised against due to their low efficacy against highly-transmissible pathogens that are spread through airborne mechanisms.
There you go; similar scientific studies and real-life cases can be quoted ad nauseam.
What do you think is the interest to address the harm caused to children in the same power structures that considers COVID to be just an extremely successful test, successful beyond wildest dreams, how far they can push people into total submission? They found there is no limit. So what do they care about harm caused to society, if the people they are planning to enslave do not really care?
What do you think is the interest to address the harm caused to children in the same power structures that considers COVID to be just an extremely successful test, successful beyond wildest dreams, how far they can push people into total submission? They found there is no limit. So what do they care about harm caused to society, if the people they are planning to enslave do not really care?
Yes, a huge negative impact on children, but let’s not forget that’s 40 organisations who need to generate scathing indictments or demonstrate their redundancy. Those mortgages and school fees won’t pay themselves, you know.
Yes, a huge negative impact on children, but let’s not forget that’s 40 organisations who need to generate scathing indictments or demonstrate their redundancy. Those mortgages and school fees won’t pay themselves, you know.
The power was with the older generation and they were whom the vaccines targetted.
I suspect that Big Pharma, Faucci and his CCP friends knew that a lab flu would maximise profits as well as wider economic damage to national competitors.
Children were collateraral damage.
The power was with the older generation and they were whom the vaccines targetted.
I suspect that Big Pharma, Faucci and his CCP friends knew that a lab flu would maximise profits as well as wider economic damage to national competitors.
Children were collateraral damage.
It’s not limited to Covid, almost every government policy seems to benefit the old over the young
It’s not limited to Covid, almost every government policy seems to benefit the old over the young
As long as the enquiry (and its sceptics) gives up on their 20:20 hindsight.
As long as the enquiry (and its sceptics) gives up on their 20:20 hindsight.
Hysteria. My kids’ literacy improved significantly during the so-called lockdown. We had much more family time, and our introverted second child, who is damaged by the forced socialisation of school, loved it.
You have little to bother about, frankly.
First world problem b/s
Middle class smugness you mean. I doubt that children in overcrowded tower block flats did so well. And anyone who will need to earn a living requires the ‘forced socialisation’ of school, however much they might hate it. Probably a result of spending the pre school years with a housewife mother instead of in a nursery.
Middle class smugness you mean. I doubt that children in overcrowded tower block flats did so well. And anyone who will need to earn a living requires the ‘forced socialisation’ of school, however much they might hate it. Probably a result of spending the pre school years with a housewife mother instead of in a nursery.
Hysteria. My kids’ literacy improved significantly during the so-called lockdown. We had much more family time, and our introverted second child, who is damaged by the forced socialisation of school, loved it.
You have little to bother about, frankly.
First world problem b/s
Unless the author can field alternative solutions, even with the benefit of hindsight, then this is just another frothy rant destined for the bin.
And how can children not be potential vectors? Very spurious claim.
Lockdowns were never part of the pandemic planning response prior to covid.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12370977/The-Covid-Inquiry-never-admit-strong-pandemic-plan-went-wrong-Leftie-scientists-panicky-politicians-writes-PROFESSOR-ROBERT-DINGWALL.html
How many more people would have died do you think, had we taken the Great Barrington approach?
165 million people slipped into poverty because of lockdowns. Not just western poverty – but $2 a day, abject poverty. I can’t wrap my head around that. Since 1998, there has been a steady and continuous reduction in poverty. That all ended with the selfish gerontocracy running the west. I can’t think of a more devastating, immoral act committed in the last 50 years.
Didn’t want to answer this dilemma then? I wonder why…
I didn’t bother because we’ve been down this path multiple times before. You say the Great Barrington Declaration isn’t possible. I say that’s hogwash. The British govt spent $200 billion in the first year of lockdowns alone, just to compensate workers to stay at home and compensate businesses for shutting down. A tiny fraction of that money could have been used to implement a real quarantine program for elderly people and others at risk.
On the other hand, you support lockdowns for the entire population. But they weren’t real quarantines because millions of people went to work. These people were spreading the disease, bringing it back home to people at risk, because these people didn’t have an option to be placed in a real quarantine zone and were therefore exposed to the disease. Lockdowns were only effective at protecting the laptop class, who got paid to work from home. It didn’t protect truckers or grocery clerks or essential workers.
I can’t make you see the logical fallacy of this approach, but it doesn’t mean the logical fallacy doesn’t exist.
The Great Barrington Declaration doesn’t require every single senior to be quarantined. It gives them a real choice though. The pretend lockdowns only protected people who could afford to live at home without going out. I emphasize the 165 million people who slipped into poverty to illustrate the carnage and devastation caused by lockdowns.
You’re vision of a quarantine zone is a complete fantasy from start to finish. You’re talking about millions of people being moved to ‘some place’ in a short space of time. Did you not consider logistics, resources, food, staff and of course organisation. It’s utter nonsense.
Why would there be millions of people? About 200,000 people died in Britain because of Covid. Theoretically, these are the only people who needed to be quarantined because everyone else survived.
Sure, this number is a bit ridiculous, but so is millions of people. The only people that needed to be quarantined are those who could not isolate at home, and would choose to leave their home.
Not every single senior needed to be quarantined or would consent to it. For those people who could not isolate at home, you house them in hotels or other facilities. Build some if you need to. China built a massive hospital in three weeks. The expense is not an issue because the govt found $200 billion for income replacement programs. The only barrier is manpower. Hotels already have staff. So how many more do you need – 10.000, 50,000?
Surely, you agree that lockdowns were an utter failure and caused much more damage than they prevented. Certainly, the 165 million people who slipped into poverty think they were an utter failure.
About a third of the population are considered vulnerable. That’s a lot of people to lock up in hotels for two years.
Lockdowns saved millions of lives, in this respect they were a huge success.
About a third of the population are considered vulnerable. That’s a lot of people to lock up in hotels for two years.
Lockdowns saved millions of lives, in this respect they were a huge success.
Why would there be millions of people? About 200,000 people died in Britain because of Covid. Theoretically, these are the only people who needed to be quarantined because everyone else survived.
Sure, this number is a bit ridiculous, but so is millions of people. The only people that needed to be quarantined are those who could not isolate at home, and would choose to leave their home.
Not every single senior needed to be quarantined or would consent to it. For those people who could not isolate at home, you house them in hotels or other facilities. Build some if you need to. China built a massive hospital in three weeks. The expense is not an issue because the govt found $200 billion for income replacement programs. The only barrier is manpower. Hotels already have staff. So how many more do you need – 10.000, 50,000?
Surely, you agree that lockdowns were an utter failure and caused much more damage than they prevented. Certainly, the 165 million people who slipped into poverty think they were an utter failure.
You’re vision of a quarantine zone is a complete fantasy from start to finish. You’re talking about millions of people being moved to ‘some place’ in a short space of time. Did you not consider logistics, resources, food, staff and of course organisation. It’s utter nonsense.
I didn’t bother because we’ve been down this path multiple times before. You say the Great Barrington Declaration isn’t possible. I say that’s hogwash. The British govt spent $200 billion in the first year of lockdowns alone, just to compensate workers to stay at home and compensate businesses for shutting down. A tiny fraction of that money could have been used to implement a real quarantine program for elderly people and others at risk.
On the other hand, you support lockdowns for the entire population. But they weren’t real quarantines because millions of people went to work. These people were spreading the disease, bringing it back home to people at risk, because these people didn’t have an option to be placed in a real quarantine zone and were therefore exposed to the disease. Lockdowns were only effective at protecting the laptop class, who got paid to work from home. It didn’t protect truckers or grocery clerks or essential workers.
I can’t make you see the logical fallacy of this approach, but it doesn’t mean the logical fallacy doesn’t exist.
The Great Barrington Declaration doesn’t require every single senior to be quarantined. It gives them a real choice though. The pretend lockdowns only protected people who could afford to live at home without going out. I emphasize the 165 million people who slipped into poverty to illustrate the carnage and devastation caused by lockdowns.
Didn’t want to answer this dilemma then? I wonder why…
165 million people slipped into poverty because of lockdowns. Not just western poverty – but $2 a day, abject poverty. I can’t wrap my head around that. Since 1998, there has been a steady and continuous reduction in poverty. That all ended with the selfish gerontocracy running the west. I can’t think of a more devastating, immoral act committed in the last 50 years.
How many more people would have died do you think, had we taken the Great Barrington approach?
To begin with, until March 16, 2020, the scientific status quo on lockdowns was univocal: their efficacy is low, their consequences are dire, and they should be treated as a last resort. The 2014 Ebola lockdown in Sierra Leone was the ultimate case in point. As reported by media outlets in 2014, the Doctors Without Borders (MSF) group repeatedly warned against such measures. The MSF representatives argued that lockdowns (1) do not contain the spread of the virus and (2) aggravate the epidemic by concealing potential cases. As expected, they led to extreme food and water shortages and riots across the country. And indeed, a similar scenario was witnessed across the USA and Europe from the summer of 2020 onwards. This should not come as a surprise: studies show that in isolated humans and mice, the levels of tachykinins (TaC1 and TaC2) rise to very high levels: and increased levels of these neuropeptides increase anxiety, a sense of friction with the world and, ultimately, aggression.
Cohen and Lipsitch argued (2008) that the epidemic theory advises against strict interventions because the spread of viruses “can paradoxically increase the burden of disease in a population.” This is why the 2019 WHO’s influenza pandemic plan advocated strictly against measures such as social isolation, border closures, travel bans, and mass quarantines. Health Center at John Hopkins University’s report titled Preparedness for a High-impact Respiratory Pandemic confirmed similar conclusions, where movement restrictions are advised against due to their low efficacy against highly-transmissible pathogens that are spread through airborne mechanisms.
There you go; similar scientific studies and real-life cases can be quoted ad nauseam.
Children generally didn’t contract and so spread this coronavirus.
Asymptomatic transmission was another myth set up by our modern bio-states and yet to be proven.
Children were not immune. Hope that helps.
For starters, until March 16, 2020, the scientific status quo on lockdowns was univocal: their efficacy is low, their consequences are dire, and they should be treated as a last resort. The 2014 Ebola lockdown in Sierra Leone was the ultimate case in point. As reported by media outlets in 2014, the Doctors Without Borders (MSF) group repeatedly warned against such measures. The MSF representatives argued that lockdowns (1) do not contain the spread of the virus and (2) aggravate the epidemic by concealing potential cases (Thomson Reuters, 2014). As expected, they led to extreme food and water shortages and riots across the country. To be sure, a similar scenario was witnessed across the USA and Europe from the summer of 2020 onwards. This should not come as a surprise: studies show that in isolated humans and mice, the levels of tachykinins (TaC1 and TaC2) rise to very high levels: and increased levels of these neuropeptides increase anxiety, a sense of friction with the world and, ultimately, aggression.
Cohen and Lipsitch famously argued (2008) that the epidemic theory advises against strict interventions because the spread of viruses “can paradoxically increase the burden of disease in a population.” This is why the 2019 WHO’s influenza pandemic plan advocated strictly against measures such as social isolation, border closures, travel bans, and mass quarantines. Health Center at John Hopkins University’s report titled Preparedness for a High-impact Respiratory Pandemic confirmed similar conclusions, where movement restrictions are advised against due to their low efficacy against highly-transmissible pathogens that are spread through airborne mechanisms.
In short, the existing body of scientific knowledge, backed by real-life cases advises against implementing lockdowns for airborne viruses. And, it’s epidemiology “101,” not some kinf of arcane knowledge.
Hope that helps.
It doesn’t help at all. If these theories were so sound then why did almost every country and government consider it the correct approach to save lives? Which it was of course. The outlier was Sweden, and as we know, they had a complete disaster.
Although Sweden was hit hard by the first wave of Covid, its total excess deaths during the first two years of the pandemic were actually among the lowest in Europe.
Yet two or three times higher then comparative neighbours. Their policy cost the lives of thousands of people.
Yet two or three times higher then comparative neighbours. Their policy cost the lives of thousands of people.
Although Sweden was hit hard by the first wave of Covid, its total excess deaths during the first two years of the pandemic were actually among the lowest in Europe.
It doesn’t help at all. If these theories were so sound then why did almost every country and government consider it the correct approach to save lives? Which it was of course. The outlier was Sweden, and as we know, they had a complete disaster.
For starters, until March 16, 2020, the scientific status quo on lockdowns was univocal: their efficacy is low, their consequences are dire, and they should be treated as a last resort. The 2014 Ebola lockdown in Sierra Leone was the ultimate case in point. As reported by media outlets in 2014, the Doctors Without Borders (MSF) group repeatedly warned against such measures. The MSF representatives argued that lockdowns (1) do not contain the spread of the virus and (2) aggravate the epidemic by concealing potential cases (Thomson Reuters, 2014). As expected, they led to extreme food and water shortages and riots across the country. To be sure, a similar scenario was witnessed across the USA and Europe from the summer of 2020 onwards. This should not come as a surprise: studies show that in isolated humans and mice, the levels of tachykinins (TaC1 and TaC2) rise to very high levels: and increased levels of these neuropeptides increase anxiety, a sense of friction with the world and, ultimately, aggression.
Cohen and Lipsitch famously argued (2008) that the epidemic theory advises against strict interventions because the spread of viruses “can paradoxically increase the burden of disease in a population.” This is why the 2019 WHO’s influenza pandemic plan advocated strictly against measures such as social isolation, border closures, travel bans, and mass quarantines. Health Center at John Hopkins University’s report titled Preparedness for a High-impact Respiratory Pandemic confirmed similar conclusions, where movement restrictions are advised against due to their low efficacy against highly-transmissible pathogens that are spread through airborne mechanisms.
In short, the existing body of scientific knowledge, backed by real-life cases advises against implementing lockdowns for airborne viruses. And, it’s epidemiology “101,” not some kinf of arcane knowledge.
Hope that helps.
Children were not immune. Hope that helps.
Lockdowns were never part of the pandemic planning response prior to covid.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-12370977/The-Covid-Inquiry-never-admit-strong-pandemic-plan-went-wrong-Leftie-scientists-panicky-politicians-writes-PROFESSOR-ROBERT-DINGWALL.html
To begin with, until March 16, 2020, the scientific status quo on lockdowns was univocal: their efficacy is low, their consequences are dire, and they should be treated as a last resort. The 2014 Ebola lockdown in Sierra Leone was the ultimate case in point. As reported by media outlets in 2014, the Doctors Without Borders (MSF) group repeatedly warned against such measures. The MSF representatives argued that lockdowns (1) do not contain the spread of the virus and (2) aggravate the epidemic by concealing potential cases. As expected, they led to extreme food and water shortages and riots across the country. And indeed, a similar scenario was witnessed across the USA and Europe from the summer of 2020 onwards. This should not come as a surprise: studies show that in isolated humans and mice, the levels of tachykinins (TaC1 and TaC2) rise to very high levels: and increased levels of these neuropeptides increase anxiety, a sense of friction with the world and, ultimately, aggression.
Cohen and Lipsitch argued (2008) that the epidemic theory advises against strict interventions because the spread of viruses “can paradoxically increase the burden of disease in a population.” This is why the 2019 WHO’s influenza pandemic plan advocated strictly against measures such as social isolation, border closures, travel bans, and mass quarantines. Health Center at John Hopkins University’s report titled Preparedness for a High-impact Respiratory Pandemic confirmed similar conclusions, where movement restrictions are advised against due to their low efficacy against highly-transmissible pathogens that are spread through airborne mechanisms.
There you go; similar scientific studies and real-life cases can be quoted ad nauseam.
Children generally didn’t contract and so spread this coronavirus.
Asymptomatic transmission was another myth set up by our modern bio-states and yet to be proven.
Unless the author can field alternative solutions, even with the benefit of hindsight, then this is just another frothy rant destined for the bin.
And how can children not be potential vectors? Very spurious claim.