
Sathnam Sanghera is not fighting a “culture war”. The growing shelf of imperial history under his name might verge on the zone of engagement, and certainly emerged at a time of global reckoning over colonialism and race, but they are “not intended to be a salvo in the battle”. In the second paragraph of his new book Empireworld he is already complaining that he has been unfairly dragged into the “culture war” against his will. All he was ever trying to do, he insists, is “provide nuance” to the debate.
If the test of “nuance” is being criticised from all sides, then Sanghera’s books pass with flying colours. Critics on the Right panned his 2021 book Empireland for invoking “the Britain-loathing New York Times” and “that prodigious bore Fintan O’Toole”. On the Left, in a somewhat warmer review, Stanford’s Prof. Priya Satia admonished Sanghera for drawing upon works which have apparently been “debunked”, such as Jan Morris’s Pax Britannica trilogy (1973-8). Only on the shelves of Waterstones Dad are his books safe — but that remains a considerable and influential constituency, one that uses the genre of popular history to form its political worldview. So if that’s who’s reading him, what will they take away from these books? What does the Sanghera project amount to?
The breadth of his reading is part of the sell. A whopping 39% of Empireworld is notes and bibliography. And Sanghera is at pains to convince his readers that he is an honest broker, presenting himself as a blank slate, an autodidact, who having read as much as possible with an open mind has arrived at his own conclusions. He wrote Empireland not principally to edify his readers, but to “plug large gaps” in his own knowledge. Unlike the “culture warriors”, he comes with no axes to grind; he poses as a latter-day Leopold von Ranke, bravely telling the hard truths about British history “as it actually was”.
This rhetorical strategy has its advantages, but can make his books read like pell-mell compilations of quotations from various authors. Sometimes in Empireworld this works to launder ideas that strain credulity, such as the British Empire being responsible for last year’s floods in Pakistan, or the trauma of slavery in the Americas “epigenetically” disposing its modern-day descendants to workaholism and “the downplaying of achievements in public”. Other times, he ends up endorsing ideas which I doubt he sincerely holds. Notoriously, in Empireland he called for Britons to accept that “ultimately, multiculturalism is, in the words of the Jamaican poet Louise Bennett, just ‘colonizin’… in reverse’”. Aside from sounding awfully like a shot fired in the “culture wars”, I suspect that this would do more harm than good for race relations in Britain; and given that Sanghera does not approve of “colonizin’” but does approve of “multiculturalism”, he most likely shares this view.
But the main shortcoming of Sanghera’s books is that they tell us much more about their author’s own psychology, itself a product of an epistemic ferment of which the “culture wars” are part, than “how imperialism has shaped modern Britain” or “how British imperialism has shaped the globe”. The world around him is a Rorschach test, and he only ever sees one thing. These books have a picaresque flavour: we follow our maverick hero on his adventures as he entertains us with his party-trick, his unrivalled mastery at the game of “spot the colonial inheritance”.
At the beginning of Empireworld, we join him on his journey from New Delhi back to London, “noting down every imperial legacy we happen across”. The sniffer dogs at the airport remind him that the “international trade in cocaine was influenced, indirectly, by British imperial politics”. Encountering some other passengers drinking at the airport bar, he thinks about how “British imperialists spread drunkenness across the planet”. No respite is to be found on his 10-hour flight. That the actors on the TV screen are skinny is a legacy of “imperial attitudes”. And watching Ralph Fiennes “do a half-decent job of making Lord Voldemort appear forbidding” makes him think about the Hollywood trope of the “British baddie” (it’s odd to make this point about a franchise where all the characters are British), a trope which — “let’s face it” — is also down to empire.
All this retreads ground already covered in Empireland, which opens with a suggestion for how empire education could be integrated into P.E. lessons: “Playing football? The perfect opportunity to tell students that ‘kop’, the colloquial name for rising single-tier terraces at football grounds, originally comes from Spion Kop” (a battle in the Second Boer War). It can feel a bit like reading the diary of an undercover Martian, whose only knowledge about our world comes from Zulu, a Kipling anthology, and the British Empire’s Wikipedia page. There is of course nothing wrong with having historical obsessions and lively imaginations. “Have not the wisest of men in all ages, not excepting Solomon himself, had their hobby-horses?”, as Laurence Sterne’s Tristram Shandy once asked. But, as Shandy continues, a hobby-horse is to be indulged in only “so long as a man rides [it] peaceably and quietly along the King’s highway, and neither compels you or me to get up behind him”.
Sanghera wants us all to get atop his horse. When he plays his game of “spot the colonial inheritance”, he treats it as a terrible failing when others do not participate. Thus the “legacy of empire” must be taught more at school and university — at the expense of John Milton or the Ten Commandments if necessary. In the second chapter of Empireworld, we pace around Kew Gardens, our narrator lost in thought about the relationship between empire and botany. He is jolted by the “painfully polite”, “twee” atmosphere in the Kew Gardens café: how are we to tally this, he asks, “with the racism of influential botanists”? It is unclear what exactly Sanghera wants: perhaps every family enjoying a day out at Kew should be made to reflect on the supposedly bloody history of their surroundings. In fact he comes close to supporting such a regime elsewhere in the book. One of his interlocutors recommends that “every European tourist to Jamaica be lectured on the history before being allowed to collect their bags”, and Sanghera’s only reservation (I suppose a valid one) is that this would “fuel the culture war over colonialism in the West”. Again, Sanghera is placed at a remove from that culture war, though I doubt this idea would please Jamaica’s tourism industry, either.
Why must we play this game with him? Sanghera offers a different answer in Empireworld to the one given in Empireland. Empireland was essentially making a moral argument: we should think and talk and teach more about the empire because it’s the right thing to do. In Empireworld, however, morality takes a back seat. We now find ourselves in the hard-edged world of geopolitics and multipolarity and soft power.
Some portents of this did surface towards the end of Empireland. Among the unsettling instances of “imperialism” that Sanghera finds in Boris Johnson’s rhetorical repertoire are references to London being “the greatest city on earth”, Britain having the “best universities”, and Britain being “the leading military player in western Europe”. A less imperially afflicted mind would recognise these for the banal platitudes they are. Even Borat boasts that Kazakhstan is the “number one exporter of potassium”. But what Sanghera dislikes about this “world-beating” bluster is that, by being so apparently tactless about the imperial past, it somehow diminishes Britain’s standing on the world stage. This argument, which becomes the central thesis of Empireworld, is never properly explained.
Britain, on Sanghera’s account, is now too puny a nation to get away with not constantly drawing out the imperial connotations of everything it says and does. We have no choice but to play the game of “spot the colonial inheritance”. India, after all, is a “burgeoning superpower that will shape our future in all sorts of ways”, and apparently would like for us to play along. To make matters worse, the “conversation” about reparations is swiftly “leaving us behind”: “we will look increasingly irrelevant and ignorant if we continue not to engage”. Presumably an “engagement” consisting of a sharp and simple “no” is not quite what Sanghera is after. One has to wonder how many pounds we shall have to cough up if we wish to maintain our “relevance” in the world.
This emphasis on how Britain “looks” animates every page of Empireworld. It mars, for example, an otherwise intriguing discussion of the imperial roots of Britain’s third sector, and the British enthusiasm for animal charities in particular. The first wildlife conservation charities were set up, perversely, by big game hunters; British imperialists were “pioneers in extinction”. This, Sanghera says, is an “important thing to acknowledge within our national obsession for animal conservation and protection” — for “if we forget it, we risk looking cynical and hypocritical as we go about lecturing the planet”. When the King and the Prince of Wales bleat on about saving the rhinos, they are “seemingly oblivious to the fact that their ancestors were at the forefront of destroying some of these species in the first place”. Perhaps, however, they are not “oblivious” to this fact at all, and simply do not think it relevant that (to use one of Sanghera’s examples) Edward VIII once shot a tiger.
For all these flaws, there is a worthwhile book buried deep in Empireworld, one which could have “provided nuance” to a heated and often ugly debate. Every now and then, Sanghera says the sort of thing that ought to feature more prominently in discussions of imperial history: that empire was “unplanned” and “nebulous”; that it had “areas of grey, where seemingly opposite things could be true at once”; that it was “messy” and “full of contradictions”; that it “instilled chaos and spread democracy”. Near the end of the book we get some much-needed self-reflection: for all his inveighing against the hoary old balance-sheet question of whether the empire was “good or bad”, he confesses that he had himself “participated in a micro form of balance-sheet thinking myself”. No prizes for guessing which side he tended to come down on.
Alas, this tease of the sort of book that Empireworld might have been is forever snatched away from us in the conclusion. On the final page, returning to his fixation on “optics”, Sanghera recites a litany of all the things Britain “cannot” do until it somehow faces up to its imperial past. “We cannot lecture nations about homophobia without accepting that we determinedly enforced homophobia upon large parts of the world.” “We cannot negotiate climate change treaties without acknowledging that we were pioneers in inflicting man-made climate change upon the planet.” One might quite reasonably say in response that yes, we can, and yes, we should. In any case, this screed on the sins of empire rather gives the game away. For no “nuance” is here to be found: only a rousing battle-cry in the “culture war”.
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SubscribeIt takes a lot of motivation to fire man-portable anti-tank missiles at armored vehicles. If the Ukrainian people were not really strongly behind their war of independece, there wouldn’t be so many of them willing to shoot at Russian tanks. To argue that the West should impose peace negotiations on Ukraine is ridiculous. It ignores the obvious desire of Ukrainians for independence, and would reward Putin’s aggression.
Like Hitler did with German speakers, Putin claims the right to defend Russian speaking populations everwhere they live, regardless of international borders. That’s part of his justification for invading Ukraine. If would be really dangerous to allow Putin any winnings based on that theory.
You don’t understand the issues.
The conflict was started by the west.
Do some research.
I have done research. Russia moved forces into Ukraines east a decade ago to destabilise the region after their puppet was forced out during protests, and none of their preferred candidates made any ground in subsequent elections so they decided to first annex Crimea and then launch a full invasion
Crimea was always part of Russia.
Check your facts.
No you check yours. Crimea has been part of Ukraine for last 50 years after Russia gave back the land it conquered and took from Ukraine.
Crimea was once part of Russia, which is very different from always having been part of Russia. If Crimea had always been part of Russia then the Russians wouldn’t have had to forcibly annex it would they
England was once part of Normandy.
So objectively, it belongs to the successor to the Normans.
France.
England was once part of Normandy.
So objectively, it belongs to the successor to the Normans.
France.
The problem is: you present no facts to refute.
Just repetitive nonsense.
Hopefully, you are not a Russian troll.
If so, you would be literally stealing money from the Russian people.
No you check yours. Crimea has been part of Ukraine for last 50 years after Russia gave back the land it conquered and took from Ukraine.
Crimea was once part of Russia, which is very different from always having been part of Russia. If Crimea had always been part of Russia then the Russians wouldn’t have had to forcibly annex it would they
The problem is: you present no facts to refute.
Just repetitive nonsense.
Hopefully, you are not a Russian troll.
If so, you would be literally stealing money from the Russian people.
Crimea was always part of Russia.
Check your facts.
Thanks for not wearying us with a Russian troll argument.
Fact is, the conflict was started when Yanukovich sought Ukraine’s entry into the EU.
When Putin forced him to renege on the deal, most Ukrainians were outraged, and eventually overthrew him.
Then, when Yanukovich fled, the legally elected Rada chose his successor.
End of story.
All else is Trollspeak.
No.
This was initiated by the CIA and NATO.
You have swallowed the lies of the western media.
You know nothing about it.
Indeed.
I read quite a few pro-war Russian blogs, plus the standard Kremlin narrative.
The former are outraged at the Kremlin’s continuing blunders. The latter just try to cover them up.
Yeah, I also listen to Solovyov’s antics on state TV.
For laughs…
Indeed.
I read quite a few pro-war Russian blogs, plus the standard Kremlin narrative.
The former are outraged at the Kremlin’s continuing blunders. The latter just try to cover them up.
Yeah, I also listen to Solovyov’s antics on state TV.
For laughs…
No.
This was initiated by the CIA and NATO.
You have swallowed the lies of the western media.
You know nothing about it.
I have done research. Russia moved forces into Ukraines east a decade ago to destabilise the region after their puppet was forced out during protests, and none of their preferred candidates made any ground in subsequent elections so they decided to first annex Crimea and then launch a full invasion
Thanks for not wearying us with a Russian troll argument.
Fact is, the conflict was started when Yanukovich sought Ukraine’s entry into the EU.
When Putin forced him to renege on the deal, most Ukrainians were outraged, and eventually overthrew him.
Then, when Yanukovich fled, the legally elected Rada chose his successor.
End of story.
All else is Trollspeak.
You don’t understand the issues.
The conflict was started by the west.
Do some research.
It takes a lot of motivation to fire man-portable anti-tank missiles at armored vehicles. If the Ukrainian people were not really strongly behind their war of independece, there wouldn’t be so many of them willing to shoot at Russian tanks. To argue that the West should impose peace negotiations on Ukraine is ridiculous. It ignores the obvious desire of Ukrainians for independence, and would reward Putin’s aggression.
Like Hitler did with German speakers, Putin claims the right to defend Russian speaking populations everwhere they live, regardless of international borders. That’s part of his justification for invading Ukraine. If would be really dangerous to allow Putin any winnings based on that theory.
Alas, this seems to be the one issue with which Unherd is decidedly with the Herd. It’s possible simultaneously to hold that A) Putin’s invasion of Ukraine was wrong, and that the way he’s carried out the war (if the media is to be believed) is in many ways evil, AND B) the West, led by America, bears a fair amount of responsibility for this due to our penchant for bear-poking over the past decade.
Putin is undoubtedly a bully, but no one who looks objectively at the past ten years can honestly say that we haven’t done a lot of instigating. In fact, we’ve admitted it here and there. It’s just that we didn’t expect the bully to do THIS! Well, guess bloody what? Bullies sometimes react unpredictably.
It wasn’t unpredictable, it was predictable. Russian state been like it for centuries, we just tend to have too narrow a perspective.
What wasn’t predictable was Zelensky’s action, and his people’s action. What was then slightly less predictable was the US, NATO and EU rallying and solidity.
Thus I would contend you’ve got it fundamentally the wrong way round.
Uh, no. As one who hoped in the early days that Ukraine would respond strongly enough to send Putin’s forces packing, I also quickly saw in the early days that the West would undoubtedly turn this into a proxy war, claiming the higher grould while all the time ignoring the needling that had been done the previous 10 years. Putin may be a b*****d, but let’s not pretend that the West has been pure as the driven snow here.
Uh, no. As one who hoped in the early days that Ukraine would respond strongly enough to send Putin’s forces packing, I also quickly saw in the early days that the West would undoubtedly turn this into a proxy war, claiming the higher grould while all the time ignoring the needling that had been done the previous 10 years. Putin may be a b*****d, but let’s not pretend that the West has been pure as the driven snow here.
It was entirely predictable.
Russia was pushed into corner.
The west is responsible for this.
Indeed.
The largest nation on earth, with a vast, undeveloped hinterland, needed “lebensraum,” by taking Ukraine.
140 million Russians must (and should!) dominate 40 million Ukrainians.
Putin needed NATO to retreat from its present borders–to create NEW borders, still cheek and jowl with NATO.
That this would have involved killing tens of thousands of Ukrainian leaders, and other recalcitrants, and turning Ukraine into a police state for one or two generations, so as to make good Russians of them, is a small price to pay.
Why, oh why did we sacrifice 50 million lives in WW2, when all we had to do was let Japan dominate China and the Pacific, and Germany Europe?
Are WE not the real enemies of peace?
Indeed.
The largest nation on earth, with a vast, undeveloped hinterland, needed “lebensraum,” by taking Ukraine.
140 million Russians must (and should!) dominate 40 million Ukrainians.
Putin needed NATO to retreat from its present borders–to create NEW borders, still cheek and jowl with NATO.
That this would have involved killing tens of thousands of Ukrainian leaders, and other recalcitrants, and turning Ukraine into a police state for one or two generations, so as to make good Russians of them, is a small price to pay.
Why, oh why did we sacrifice 50 million lives in WW2, when all we had to do was let Japan dominate China and the Pacific, and Germany Europe?
Are WE not the real enemies of peace?
Agreed with A and B, but it’s also possible to hold that C) Some in DC were always hoping that the bully *would* do this. Of all parties directly or indirectly involved, who can be said to be the biggest winner so far?
Agreed. Can’t speak for the UK and the EU but there are some in the U.S. who’d like the Cold War to continue indefinitely.
Agreed. Can’t speak for the UK and the EU but there are some in the U.S. who’d like the Cold War to continue indefinitely.
Not every opinion has to be contrarian simply for the sake of it. I’d wager if most people opposed the war and wanted the Ukrainians to surrender then you’d be calling for increased weapons to be sent their way to allow them to fight
There’s nothing contrarian about it. Remember Iraq? Lesson learned (20 years ago).
There’s nothing contrarian about it. Remember Iraq? Lesson learned (20 years ago).
It wasn’t unpredictable, it was predictable. Russian state been like it for centuries, we just tend to have too narrow a perspective.
What wasn’t predictable was Zelensky’s action, and his people’s action. What was then slightly less predictable was the US, NATO and EU rallying and solidity.
Thus I would contend you’ve got it fundamentally the wrong way round.
It was entirely predictable.
Russia was pushed into corner.
The west is responsible for this.
Agreed with A and B, but it’s also possible to hold that C) Some in DC were always hoping that the bully *would* do this. Of all parties directly or indirectly involved, who can be said to be the biggest winner so far?
Not every opinion has to be contrarian simply for the sake of it. I’d wager if most people opposed the war and wanted the Ukrainians to surrender then you’d be calling for increased weapons to be sent their way to allow them to fight
Alas, this seems to be the one issue with which Unherd is decidedly with the Herd. It’s possible simultaneously to hold that A) Putin’s invasion of Ukraine was wrong, and that the way he’s carried out the war (if the media is to be believed) is in many ways evil, AND B) the West, led by America, bears a fair amount of responsibility for this due to our penchant for bear-poking over the past decade.
Putin is undoubtedly a bully, but no one who looks objectively at the past ten years can honestly say that we haven’t done a lot of instigating. In fact, we’ve admitted it here and there. It’s just that we didn’t expect the bully to do THIS! Well, guess bloody what? Bullies sometimes react unpredictably.
Blimey, the pro-Putin trolls are making up in noise what they lack in numbers (like Russia’s Army come to that). Here’s hoping we see Challenger 2 Tanks driving through Donetsk City Centre in a matter of weeks or months.
No pro Putin trolls here.
We want peace.
Check your facts, check the history of Ukraine since 2014.
Stop watching the BBC and reading
Express.
Don’t remain ignorant.
People are dying because of brainwashed people like you.
People are dying because they’re choosing to fight to try and keep their sovereignty, at least for the Ukrainians. I’ll wager the Russians are dying because young poorly trained conscripts have been forced to go to a foreign country and charge at machine guns.
You say you want peace, but what do you think Russia should give up to achieve it? Should they remove their forces from all Ukrainian territory if the Ukrainians promise not to join NATO?
People are dying because they’re choosing to fight to try and keep their sovereignty, at least for the Ukrainians. I’ll wager the Russians are dying because young poorly trained conscripts have been forced to go to a foreign country and charge at machine guns.
You say you want peace, but what do you think Russia should give up to achieve it? Should they remove their forces from all Ukrainian territory if the Ukrainians promise not to join NATO?
Ukraine is already finished. You’ll learn.
If anything, Russia is finished. Putin has sent his most patriotic soldiers to either death or a life of infirmity in pointless and archaic human wave attacks against entrenched positions. Those ultra-right nationalists in groups like Wagner have suffered the same fate. Elsewhere, those Russians in opposition are either cowed, in prison, dead or fled the country.
Ukrainians have Western weapons, training from the Americans and British and the motivation of fighting for hearth and home on their side. Even if Russia were to somehow win on the battlefield, they will never hold onto their prize. Ukraine will bleed them white, just as Afghanistan did.
Just because, after 434 days, the Russian air force has failed to dominate the skies over Ukraine, and lost 100,000+ dead, only means that Putin is luring NATO into a trap.
You have no idea.
You dont appear to be able to string more than a few words together – Unherd expects some basic facts or, at least an attempt at a cogent rebuttal – you are making a t**t of yourself here bro
You dont appear to be able to string more than a few words together – Unherd expects some basic facts or, at least an attempt at a cogent rebuttal – you are making a t**t of yourself here bro
Just because, after 434 days, the Russian air force has failed to dominate the skies over Ukraine, and lost 100,000+ dead, only means that Putin is luring NATO into a trap.
You have no idea.
That’s why Putin cleverly ran from Kyiv, Kharkiv and Kherson. That’s why he ingeniously didn’t freeze Ukraine, and lost 10s of thousands dead, and 100s of thousands wounded…for 30 sq miles around Bakhmut.
And when his army retreats again, he’s only luring NATO into a trap!
Once he reaches the Urals, he will turn and destroy us all…
That is quite incorrect. The trap will be sprung at Kamchatka where he will unleash the Demogorgon, patiently waiting in a gulag…
Oops!
Sorry, got ahead of myself…
Oops!
Sorry, got ahead of myself…
Stop watching the BBC and reading the Express.
You are listening to the wrong people.
Who should we listen to then? Russian State News perhaps?
Who should we listen to then? Russian State News perhaps?
That is quite incorrect. The trap will be sprung at Kamchatka where he will unleash the Demogorgon, patiently waiting in a gulag…
Stop watching the BBC and reading the Express.
You are listening to the wrong people.
I dont think you quite understand that the Ukrainians have decided that they would rather die than become subjugated again – history teaches us that yes they will die in large numbers but that Russia will never again subjugate them – look at the israelis surrounded by 100’s of millions who want them all dead ! The best fighters are always those to whom losing will never ever again be an option !!!
If anything, Russia is finished. Putin has sent his most patriotic soldiers to either death or a life of infirmity in pointless and archaic human wave attacks against entrenched positions. Those ultra-right nationalists in groups like Wagner have suffered the same fate. Elsewhere, those Russians in opposition are either cowed, in prison, dead or fled the country.
Ukrainians have Western weapons, training from the Americans and British and the motivation of fighting for hearth and home on their side. Even if Russia were to somehow win on the battlefield, they will never hold onto their prize. Ukraine will bleed them white, just as Afghanistan did.
That’s why Putin cleverly ran from Kyiv, Kharkiv and Kherson. That’s why he ingeniously didn’t freeze Ukraine, and lost 10s of thousands dead, and 100s of thousands wounded…for 30 sq miles around Bakhmut.
And when his army retreats again, he’s only luring NATO into a trap!
Once he reaches the Urals, he will turn and destroy us all…
I dont think you quite understand that the Ukrainians have decided that they would rather die than become subjugated again – history teaches us that yes they will die in large numbers but that Russia will never again subjugate them – look at the israelis surrounded by 100’s of millions who want them all dead ! The best fighters are always those to whom losing will never ever again be an option !!!
No pro Putin trolls here.
We want peace.
Check your facts, check the history of Ukraine since 2014.
Stop watching the BBC and reading
Express.
Don’t remain ignorant.
People are dying because of brainwashed people like you.
Ukraine is already finished. You’ll learn.
Blimey, the pro-Putin trolls are making up in noise what they lack in numbers (like Russia’s Army come to that). Here’s hoping we see Challenger 2 Tanks driving through Donetsk City Centre in a matter of weeks or months.
Russia’s leadership is now far past delusional.
Their self-attack on the Kremlin seems to be Putin and Gerasimovs’ last desperate attempt to somehow energize Russia’s (entirely inert) masses into fighting for “Rodina.”
But they totally misunderstand their own people. Russia lacks a committed group like the Party to carry out the horrendous measures needed to force Russians to go to certain death against far better-armed opponents. They lack “The Stalinist Conveyor” and can’t create it overnight.
The Price of not creating a Stalinist System.
Indeed, for most of Putin’s career he has been satisfied with small-scale, essentially criminal endeavors in Crimea, Donbas, Syria and Libya. They make money for a few, but don’t add an iota of strength to Russia.
Putin is thus a deeply unserious politician. Given his lack of a successor, he is also the very opposite of a Russian patriot.
When he goes, the whole ramshackle criminal enterprise will collapse.
So, get ready to dig deep to help the Russian people.
This is going to be far worse than the 90s.
Russia’s leadership is now far past delusional.
Their self-attack on the Kremlin seems to be Putin and Gerasimovs’ last desperate attempt to somehow energize Russia’s (entirely inert) masses into fighting for “Rodina.”
But they totally misunderstand their own people. Russia lacks a committed group like the Party to carry out the horrendous measures needed to force Russians to go to certain death against far better-armed opponents. They lack “The Stalinist Conveyor” and can’t create it overnight.
The Price of not creating a Stalinist System.
Indeed, for most of Putin’s career he has been satisfied with small-scale, essentially criminal endeavors in Crimea, Donbas, Syria and Libya. They make money for a few, but don’t add an iota of strength to Russia.
Putin is thus a deeply unserious politician. Given his lack of a successor, he is also the very opposite of a Russian patriot.
When he goes, the whole ramshackle criminal enterprise will collapse.
So, get ready to dig deep to help the Russian people.
This is going to be far worse than the 90s.
Would be interesting to know the background of the article’s author.
Would be interesting to know the background of the article’s author.
Now is the time for peace negotiations. No one wants this war other than the neo-cons and the military industrial complex.
I think you’ve forgotten Putin off your list there to be honest. None of this would be happening without him after all
Of course it would.
The whole conflict was engineered by the west.
None of this would be happening if Trump was President.
The senile old crook Biden is putting the whole world in danger.
Agency & independent decision making do exist outside the west.
Funny how a “senile old crook” seems to be outsmarting Putin at every turn.
You don’t think that this might mean that Putin…is…a little dim himself?
Nope, wouldn’t dream of it!
Agency & independent decision making do exist outside the west.
Funny how a “senile old crook” seems to be outsmarting Putin at every turn.
You don’t think that this might mean that Putin…is…a little dim himself?
Nope, wouldn’t dream of it!
Of course it would.
The whole conflict was engineered by the west.
None of this would be happening if Trump was President.
The senile old crook Biden is putting the whole world in danger.
I agree but most of the British public have been brainwashed just as they were with the COOF.
And somehow you were the one spared SD?
Not somehow.
I do my research.
You should.
Please explain how Putin can recreate the Mass Death used by Stalin to win WW2.
Until we see millions forcibly drafted into the Army…
Until we see 100s of thousands of Russians sent in suicidal attacks all along the front…
Until we see mass starvation of the civilian population to finance the fighting…
Until Putin sends his entire air force on suicidal missions deep into Ukrainian territory…
He is fighting a Deeply Unserious War.
It’s no more than a ridiculous Russian “Boevik” (i.e. War Movie), with a few live casualties.
Same here in the States. Anyone with an ounce of objectivity can simply look at the press coverage and see how ridiculously one-sided it is. That in and of itself ought to raise red flags. We’re getting hosed into thinking this war is a good thing, just like we were hosed into thinking invading Iraq was a good thing. This time it’s worse though, because the anti-war left has gone completely silent.
The narcissism of the conspiratorist to whom only a secret knowledge and insight available a well known psychology condition.
Indeed.
The first step is to determine whether they are a reliable actor, interested in the world…… or if their interest lies in feeling better about themselves – psychological survival. To the latter, conspiracy theories have great appeal, as they feel like a balm to their self-esteem/identity problems. Specifically, conspiracy theories supply certainty in response to overwhelming anxiety (a sure path when one feels lost); prestige, where there are self-esteem problems (‘I possess important information most people do not have) & ability (‘I have the power to reject “experts” and expose hidden cabals’); vindication when one feels besieged (my ‘enemies’ are wrong, morally, scientifically)’; connection when one feels alone (even if it is fighting/trolling); and liberation:, ‘If I imagine my foes are completely malevolent, then I can use any tactic I want’.
Indeed.
The first step is to determine whether they are a reliable actor, interested in the world…… or if their interest lies in feeling better about themselves – psychological survival. To the latter, conspiracy theories have great appeal, as they feel like a balm to their self-esteem/identity problems. Specifically, conspiracy theories supply certainty in response to overwhelming anxiety (a sure path when one feels lost); prestige, where there are self-esteem problems (‘I possess important information most people do not have) & ability (‘I have the power to reject “experts” and expose hidden cabals’); vindication when one feels besieged (my ‘enemies’ are wrong, morally, scientifically)’; connection when one feels alone (even if it is fighting/trolling); and liberation:, ‘If I imagine my foes are completely malevolent, then I can use any tactic I want’.
Please explain how Putin can recreate the Mass Death used by Stalin to win WW2.
Until we see millions forcibly drafted into the Army…
Until we see 100s of thousands of Russians sent in suicidal attacks all along the front…
Until we see mass starvation of the civilian population to finance the fighting…
Until Putin sends his entire air force on suicidal missions deep into Ukrainian territory…
He is fighting a Deeply Unserious War.
It’s no more than a ridiculous Russian “Boevik” (i.e. War Movie), with a few live casualties.
Same here in the States. Anyone with an ounce of objectivity can simply look at the press coverage and see how ridiculously one-sided it is. That in and of itself ought to raise red flags. We’re getting hosed into thinking this war is a good thing, just like we were hosed into thinking invading Iraq was a good thing. This time it’s worse though, because the anti-war left has gone completely silent.
The narcissism of the conspiratorist to whom only a secret knowledge and insight available a well known psychology condition.
Not somehow.
I do my research.
You should.
And somehow you were the one spared SD?
The 1930’s called: they want back their appeasement policy.
The president of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy will soon be backslash for allowing NATO and America mislead him and risk lives of so many innocent civilians of Ukraine.
The strategic move for NATO expansion towards Russuian territory through Ukraine has failed and backfired where people were mowed down, all this is attributable to one power monger country. Gradually, the world will unite against the west that has been supporting America in 5hrir wrong moves to infiltrate other independent states under NATO.
What is happening in Ukraine the Presindent of that country must take the responsibility for all this calamity in the Ukraine territory.
One problem with this analysis is it greatly understates the historical psychology of the Russian state whether under Putin, Stalin or Peter the Great. It’s always perceived itself as an Empire with subservient vassals around it. The idea that it’s NATO that created this just shows a lack of historical understanding. NATO expansion is the inevitable response from Countries desperate to get out from underneath that long history.
Hmmm. I wonder how America would respond if China started becoming a major influencer/controller in all the countries south of the border? Monroe Doctrine for me but not for thee?
NATO expansion is being driven by the West’s own needling. We poke the bear and then tell the kiddies, “Look! Isn’t he dangerous?” Well of course he is, you flippin’ morons! He’s a bear! If it weren’t so tragic it’d be funny.
Hmmm. I wonder how America would respond if China started becoming a major influencer/controller in all the countries south of the border? Monroe Doctrine for me but not for thee?
NATO expansion is being driven by the West’s own needling. We poke the bear and then tell the kiddies, “Look! Isn’t he dangerous?” Well of course he is, you flippin’ morons! He’s a bear! If it weren’t so tragic it’d be funny.
If the Ukrainians genuinely hated Zelensky and held him responsible then the soldiers would simply lay down their arms and allow the Russians to advance to Kyiv surely? Nobody is making Ukraine fight, the west is simply giving them the chance to do so if they wish
Thereby ensuring the destruction of Ukraine.
The vast majority of Ukrainians clearly do not agree with this viewpoint or the huge quantities of Western weapons reaching Ukrainian forces would remain unused.
Without western weapons Ukraine would cease to exist as a sovereign nation, it would be a colony if Russia
Not our problem.
Having an aggressive, expansionist Russia marching up to NATOs borders could very quickly become our problem. Putin apologists seem happy to label the Eastern European nations willingly joining NATO as a provocation as it moves NATO closer to Russias borders, whilst simultaneously defending Putins attempt at moving Russias borders by force towards NATO countries
Nope. Both things can be true simultaneously: Putin could very well have aggressive goals, while NATO expansion is intended as provocation. And it’s highly probably we are being lied to about the latter at least.
So those Eastern European nations shouldn’t be able to decide their own domestic and foreign policy? They should simply be colonies of Russia?
So those Eastern European nations shouldn’t be able to decide their own domestic and foreign policy? They should simply be colonies of Russia?
Nope. Both things can be true simultaneously: Putin could very well have aggressive goals, while NATO expansion is intended as provocation. And it’s highly probably we are being lied to about the latter at least.
Having an aggressive, expansionist Russia marching up to NATOs borders could very quickly become our problem. Putin apologists seem happy to label the Eastern European nations willingly joining NATO as a provocation as it moves NATO closer to Russias borders, whilst simultaneously defending Putins attempt at moving Russias borders by force towards NATO countries
Not our problem.
The vast majority of Ukrainians clearly do not agree with this viewpoint or the huge quantities of Western weapons reaching Ukrainian forces would remain unused.
Without western weapons Ukraine would cease to exist as a sovereign nation, it would be a colony if Russia
Thereby ensuring the destruction of Ukraine.
One problem with this analysis is it greatly understates the historical psychology of the Russian state whether under Putin, Stalin or Peter the Great. It’s always perceived itself as an Empire with subservient vassals around it. The idea that it’s NATO that created this just shows a lack of historical understanding. NATO expansion is the inevitable response from Countries desperate to get out from underneath that long history.
If the Ukrainians genuinely hated Zelensky and held him responsible then the soldiers would simply lay down their arms and allow the Russians to advance to Kyiv surely? Nobody is making Ukraine fight, the west is simply giving them the chance to do so if they wish
The president of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyy will soon be backslash for allowing NATO and America mislead him and risk lives of so many innocent civilians of Ukraine.
The strategic move for NATO expansion towards Russuian territory through Ukraine has failed and backfired where people were mowed down, all this is attributable to one power monger country. Gradually, the world will unite against the west that has been supporting America in 5hrir wrong moves to infiltrate other independent states under NATO.
What is happening in Ukraine the Presindent of that country must take the responsibility for all this calamity in the Ukraine territory.
Sadly, 40 million Ukrainians also seem pretty keen on this war.
Maybe you can stop them.
But I wouldn’t get in their way.
The only way they lose is if hostilities cease. If the fighting continues they win, no matter which side eventually comes out on top. And they’re willing to throw Ukraine to the wolves in the process.
I think you’ve forgotten Putin off your list there to be honest. None of this would be happening without him after all
I agree but most of the British public have been brainwashed just as they were with the COOF.
The 1930’s called: they want back their appeasement policy.
Sadly, 40 million Ukrainians also seem pretty keen on this war.
Maybe you can stop them.
But I wouldn’t get in their way.
The only way they lose is if hostilities cease. If the fighting continues they win, no matter which side eventually comes out on top. And they’re willing to throw Ukraine to the wolves in the process.
Now is the time for peace negotiations. No one wants this war other than the neo-cons and the military industrial complex.
Some people cannot handle the truth.
Unless Zelenskyy sits down and negotiates, Ukraine will be completely destroyed.
The western media is lying about almost everything they claim is true.
Losses are 7 to 1 or even 10 to 1 in Russia’s favour.
Ukraine is running out of men,running out of cannon fodder.
Ukraine has no chance defeating Russia and of course the warmongers in Washington do not want a resolution.
Bonkers.
That’s right.
You just ignore the facts, the reality and the history of this conflict.
Day 434 of the War.
Russia has lost its entire regular army.
And Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson, etc.
Now it will lose the rest of Ukraine, to include Krym.
And soon, when Putin falls.
Russia will lose Russia.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
I always find it amazing that people who don’t trust the MSM on virtually anything else are all onboard with it on this issue. Very strange.
I always find it amazing that people who don’t trust the MSM on virtually anything else are all onboard with it on this issue. Very strange.
You couldn’t be more wrong.
Day 434 of the War.
Russia has lost its entire regular army.
And Kyiv, Kharkiv, Kherson, etc.
Now it will lose the rest of Ukraine, to include Krym.
And soon, when Putin falls.
Russia will lose Russia.
That’s right.
You just ignore the facts, the reality and the history of this conflict.
Lol, this war makes Russia’s performance in the Winter War of 1939-40 look like Alexander’s conquests by comparison.
Bonkers.
Lol, this war makes Russia’s performance in the Winter War of 1939-40 look like Alexander’s conquests by comparison.
Some people cannot handle the truth.
Unless Zelenskyy sits down and negotiates, Ukraine will be completely destroyed.
The western media is lying about almost everything they claim is true.
Losses are 7 to 1 or even 10 to 1 in Russia’s favour.
Ukraine is running out of men,running out of cannon fodder.
Ukraine has no chance defeating Russia and of course the warmongers in Washington do not want a resolution.