Zaid Jilani

America’s complex crime debate


September 5, 2025
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Emily is joined by Zaid Jilani, writer of the “American Saga” newsletter, to break down the complex and often polarizing debate over crime in America. Zaid outlines the “two truths” that are often at odds in the public conversation: the fact that crime rates have been decreasing in many cities, and the simultaneous fact that the absolute level of violence is still unacceptably high compared to other developed nations. They discuss why politicians from both parties tend to focus on only one side of this reality, leading to a conversation where people talk past one another, and explore the crucial difference between statistical trends and the public’s emotional perception of safety.


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