On Monday night, JD Vance appeared on Sean Hannity’s Fox show to declare a Zeitenwende in US foreign policy: from the idealism of the neoliberal era to a structural realpolitik attuned to the constraints of American and European power.
The Vice President’s clash with Volodymyr Zelensky in the Oval Office has dominated geopolitical conversations since Friday, and Vance emphasised throughout his Hannity appearance that he and Trump were not looking for fireworks with the Ukrainian leader. Vance also hammered home to the Fox host the necessity of some kind of peace deal.
But perhaps most revealing was the VP’s implicit argument for why some ceasefire had to be obtained. Geopolitics during the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama was often seen through a normative lens: what should be done? In contrast to that normative approach, Vance insisted on the sheer practical unsustainability of the Ukraine conflict. For him, the war was not a question of “values” but instead blood, cash, and steel. As he put it: “Fighting forever with what? With whose money, with whose ammunition, and with whose lives?”
Contemporary populism has been forged in the fires of disappointment — from debacles abroad to a financial crisis at home — so populist leaders like Trump and Vance have often emphasised the limits of projecting American power abroad. Vance’s invocation of money, ammunition, and lives underlines some of the hard constraints upon both American and European policymakers. For decades, many Nato security partners have underinvested in their militaries. As recently as 2021, Germany was spending under 1.5% of its GDP on defence, while most Nato countries spent barely more than 2% just last year. The Biden White House projected that American defence spending as a percentage of the national economy would itself decline over time — even as it was committing the United States to open-ended support for Ukraine. Needless to say, that is not a sustainable trajectory.
The Ukraine crisis has exposed the vulnerability of defence supply chains for the United States and many of its allies. Policymakers on both sides of the Atlantic are increasingly recognising the need to rebuild a domestic defence industrial base, and shortages of critical supplies and defence materiel loom. The new pause on American supplies to Ukraine shows how important the “whose ammunition?” question is — and escalates pressure on Zelensky to return to the bargaining table.
In addition to those hard constraints, Vance also alluded to a soft constraint: public opinion. For instance, some polling suggests a growing American desire for an end to the Ukraine conflict. Populism has thrived on a disjunction between elites and the public at large, and Vance argued that — behind closed doors — many European leaders admitted that somehow the war had to end.
As the Vice President noted, Biden’s moralistic denunciations of Putin did not stop the Russian leader from launching his Ukrainian invasion. Credibility in foreign affairs depends in part upon hard power, and the neoliberal era undermined its own idealism. Deindustrialisation and defence cuts chipped away at the pillars supporting the “rules-based international order”. Failed regime-change efforts abroad soured the public on sweeping programmes of ideological transformation.
Those foundations could be renewed. Nato partners could rebuild their militaries, reinforce their manufacturing ecosystems, and rebalance their security commitments in a time of geopolitical change. For proponents of structural realpolitik, the first step to that renewal is recognising the reality of limits.
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SubscribeLook this is all about helping Putin back up off the mat – pure and simple. The pressure on Zelensky is in the hope ‘regime change’ gives Trump/Vance an easier option to walk away and sell-out Ukraine.
They just don’t get that Putin on his knees and a show of strength would have forced him to sue for peace. Ukraine would settle with current armistice line so long as backed up. Instead Putin’s laughing. He’s played Trump and his coterie like a fiddle and his main strategic aim of also fracturing NATO coming to bear as well. Xi will be delighted. He knows the message this sends to US allies in the Pacific.
The question is whether Trump/Vance just ignorant and driven by personal animosity towards Zelensky because of Hunter Biden stuff, or whether actually there is something much more malign going on?
Sympathetic strategists are working overtime to justify the Trump/Vance approach – it’s all realpolitik etc. No it’s B/S. They’ve said squat to Putin and who’s lobbing bombs at civilians. Cowards at best. Possibly worse.
“They just don’t get that Putin on his knees and a show of strength would have forced him to sue for peace.”
Really? You should provide a source for that because that’s not what the economic data says: https://cepa.org/comprehensive-reports/addicted-to-war-undermining-russias-economy/
Yes the war has reached the stage when donkeys call for “one last push”.
The war may not have gone the way Putin expected, but why do you say he is on his knees? The economy is holding up, munitions production has kicked up a gear or two, and he has been encouraged to become closer to the CCP. I’m genuinely surprised to hear that it is he who needs a lifeline.
It’ll all be over by Christmas. Oh, Oh, Oh what a lovely war. Tally ho chaps!
You’re the best Watson. Just pure Manicheanism.
Zelensky has said over and over that Russia must withdraw to its pre invasion positions. He can’t accept the territory is lost. But by what magic does he think Ukraine can win? Strange things can happen in wartime, but does anybody envisage a eg successful March on Moscow, or an encirclement of crucial armaments?
The people who sold out Ukraine were those who didn’t invest in their industry and military.
God, how I love this administration! Realism at last! It is like a breath of fresh air.
It’s even in minor things – I heard yesterday that “trans” Americans that renew their passports are getting them back with their proper sex marked, rather than their preferred sex that Biden allowed.
No men in women’s sport.
The USAID quango shuttered and only essential programs funded from the State Dept.
The borders closed and illegals deported.
Access to US markets only for countries that allow full access to theirs for US firms.
Now this – only send boys to die and spend billions when it is essential to America.
So much winning!
I am not American but you are exactly right. Everyone else is feeling sorry for giving offence and pretending to support the underdog but only as long as they are not personally affected. Let’s spend billions on wars and trillions on ‘support’ but I’m just going out into the garden.
Yes, and as a Brit I envy you.
Agree!! Now let’s see them win some more by not sending Bibi and the fascistic Israeli govt any more high tech weapons that they kill innocent children and women with! Yeah, America first baby!!
I think instead they’re concentrating on finding and discontinuing sneaky US funding of terrorist organizations. Somewhat more complicated but hopefully more efficacious.
I’m a former Democrat turned Independent who still finds Trump a narcissistic autocrat with little respect for the rule of law. His blanket pardon of even violent Jan. 6 criminals was inexcusable.
That said, I’m wholly with you in finding these muscular policy moves refreshing and right-minded. Meanwhile, Dems are still standing shoulder-to-shoulder against common sense and fair play by protecting males who want to compete in female sports. I’m glad I find a lot to like in Vance personally as well as politically, as I think we’re in for a long Republican reign. Just a few years ago that would have distressed me; now, I’m relieved.
It’s about time.
I agree with you except this one will backfire: “Access to US markets only for countries that allow full access to theirs for US firms.”
One of the main reasons China, Russia, and several other countries do not fully open their markets to the U.S. is because of what happened to Japan under the Plaza Accord. The U.S. manipulates markets under the guise of free trade, which these countries seek to avoid.
Now, with Trump also alienating the EU, Canada, and Mexico, global markets may become even more closed, potentially shifting toward gold-backed systems to further reduce dependence on the so-called free market.
Another key factor is population size. The U.S. has about 380 million people not enough for a self-sufficient market, also as of today, its only reliable allies are in the Middle East, while most of the world—including BRICS members or those leaning toward BRICS—accounts for a population of approximately 1.4 billion++. The global market share is already shifting.
We are in for some difficult times but hopefully not for long time.
Markets aren’t characterized by population and Canada and the us are strong allies.
But don’t let facts get in the way.
Has anyone else noticed how military-industrial complex has been rebranded as defence industrial base?
Brought you by the same goblins who rebranded abortion as reproductive healthcare!
Yes. One does wonder at all these commentators and politicians, many of them on the left, who clearly haven’t got the memo about realpolitik being the only show in town. To see so many on the formerly pacifist left suddenly turn en masse into war hungry neocons who don’t seem to care how many lives are lost in the pursuit of a clearly unrealistic goal (after decades of fighting for and lecturing about the importance of human rights) is nothing short of insane. The Europeans are going to hit every branch of the idealism tree on their way down to earth before they get it. And Lord preserve us from the stupid and dangerous stuff they do on the way.
yes , that is the real issue – how much damage my Govt here in the UK can create on the way down to reality. UK Govt already talking about borrowing money on the bond market to fund more weapons for Ukraine! Cue instant financial crisis. If Putin doesn’t get us the bond market surely will.
Borrowing on the bond market is just money creation. So the Bond market won’t get you but inflation might.
Judging from the deranged whining going on in the German-language media (even the usually trustworthy NZZ seems to have gone a bit chicken oriental), we’re going to be in for just as rough a ride as you.
[Quietly goes off to refresh my knowledge of Austrian neutrality and whether it means, as an Austrian taxpayer, I get to avoid financing this now senseless war and new EU defence “plans”.]
“Geopolitics during the presidencies of Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama was often seen through a normative lens: what should be done? ”
The public were encouraged to see things that way. I’m sure the leaders saw things differently.
Was W really driven by a desire to crush “evil doers” in the “Axis of Evil”? Or was he looking for ways to enrich his friends in Halliburton and other well-connected companies.
In the Obama years, was American policy in Libya and Syria aimed at maximising the welfare of ordinary people in those countries?
Were the manoeuvres of Hunter Biden and Victoria Nuland in Ukraine aimed at promoting freedom and democracy?
All that’s changed is that Trump doesn’t pretend to be pursuing high-minded ideals.
I am a lightweight when it comes to all this. I have read as widely as I can including The Guardian (its coverage is good, opinion pieces not so much). Likewise Al Jazeera.
The strange conclusion I come to is that this realpolitik consistently applied means that each country (what is that?) must fight its own wars.
Therefore Taiwan is already lost. And how will Americans ever be persuaded to fight for anything ever again ?
The logic is that Europe must look to the strong. This means China whose foreign policy has been almost flawless. I cannot see Chinese doing something like the Oval office.
I am not taking sides, but would someone please explain ?
PS. I am a member, but I think this is a big set-back for Reform. Possibly the end.
My understanding is that the current US administration (and much of its populace) views the Ukraine war as a lost cause. I don’t think this means the absolute end of our desire to protect our interests abroad with military force. For example, if Taiwan were to be invaded, I would be shocked if we just sat back and said “yeah no problem go for it”.
Ukraine however is starting to feel a bit like some of our other wars in the past, Korea and Vietnam come to mind. We keep funding it, throwing troops and munitions away, and we don’t seem to be making any actual progress. I don’t think that means we roll over and let Russia just start crawling it’s way though eastern Europe, but what I do think is that the way of doing things for the last 75 years just isn’t working anymore.
My knowledge of geopolitics is shallow, I admit. But that’s the best explanation I can come up with at the moment.
Thank you. My problem is that America has a long history of abandoning foreign involvement and late involvement. Having worked for US companies in America and having travelled in China (with a Uighur guide) and learnt Mandarin I would typify Americans as inward looking. Perhaps they can afford to be. Nevertheless, if I had to choose between America and China as an ally the answer is not obvious to me.
All this is not lost on Russians, Indians and Chinese when they see the Oval office ‘great TV’. And I am not sure what Israelis must be thinking
I suspect that public opinion in Taiwan has swung towards PRC in the last week.
I hope that America does not need allies
You’re only looking one chess move ahead.
The Unherd team are knocking it out of the park recently. Another great article that understands the situation Europe and the US find themselves in.
The bottom line is that Putin and Lavrov asked that NATO membership be taken off the table winter 2021-2.
But Biden fancied giving neoconservatism a last big blast to see whether a proxy war could get Putin removed by some lunatic nationalist proving to be even more reckless.
So we have all had to bear the bitter fruit of a criminal administration.
Why should a sovereign state, Ukraine, allow Putin to dictate its foreign policy? Putin didn’t want Ukraine in NATO. Instead he’s got two new NATO members, Sweden and Finland, on his doorstep and the Baltic is a NATO lake. Result!
By the same logic the USA should’ve just allowed the USSR to place nuclear warheads on Cuba and been like “oh yeah, they’re a sovereign state, we don’t get to tell them what to do”
A really yes that’s quite literally what a sovereign country gets to decide. The fact the Americans freaked out that a local neighbour turned to their enemy doesn’t negate the fact that Russia is also violating Ukraine’s sovereignty to choose its own fate and decided to make that decision for them. Without upholding the basic principles of sovereignty and independence of nations the entire global system as it currently exists simply ceases to function b
I have hard time buying that. Behind the rhetorical curtain of “values”, Western foreign policies were always largely based on cold geopolitical and economic interests. During and after the cold war we have installed many dictators and overthrown democratic leaders. Is that spreading Western values to the benefit of those people? No, there is often some other reason. Of course you have to manufacture consent in a democratic country with a ‘free press’ and this is where the PR and rhetoric comes in.
I am regularly amazed at how far from reality most people seem to be. Staggering.
I think the reason is most commenters on here are trying to escape reality – maybe lonely and lack self esteem. Unherd is in fact a bubble whose USP is to pretend not to be, thus implying a depth of intellect which does not exist.
I think you are selling us short. This is one of many online political avenues I follow. Some commenters here are clearly biased and treat politics like sport, but many aren’t.
Every online comment section ends up being a bubble. It’s up to individuals to make sure they don’t get trapped.
Yes I agree. That is why I used the word ‘most’.
The trouble is to stay in business a site like this must pander to its bubble or go bust. Unherd is clearly doing this at times. Everyone needs to make a living, even Wolfgang Munchau.
The best explanation of the Oval office debacle I read was in the Guardian.
“… escalates pressure on Zelensky to return to the bargaining table.”
Has the author not noticed that Trump is deliberately keeping Zelensky away from the bargaining table?
Complete and utter capitulation to Putin by Trump and the odious Vance. US foreign policy is now driven from the Kremlin. Fridays little piece of theatre cooler no one except the MAGA idiots who believe every idiocy that Trump issues.
We now rejoice in a world where Canada is considered an enemy of the US while Russia is your best friend. But, hey, you get to bully some trans kids now so it’s all worth it, right?
Is your allegiance to the USA or do you consider yourself a sovereign citizen of the world?
Other options are available.
I would usually assume someone would know that but in your case its not a foregone conclusion…
True. The third option would be Nihilist Absurdism so I buy that.
I’m sure you know that socialists only ever offer criticism, never solutions. CS proves this axiom in spades.
Everyone talks about defense, but the only country consistently engaged in wars or fueling conflicts is the U.S. If the U.S. were to stop waging wars and cut defense spending, the EU wouldn’t need to invest so heavily in its military either, since they rarely go to war on their own. If the U.S. is now calling for ‘no war,’ maybe the EU should take them at their word and save their resources. Since World War II, the U.S. has been involved in nearly every major conflict—if they truly step back, war might not even be an issue anymore.
So you approve of trump but haven’t figured out that if the us isn’t protecting Europe they will have to?
And Russia attacked Ukraine not the us.
I’m starting to think this guy is ai.
Not much new or original in this piece. Most of the ideas – realpolitik vs necons, unsustainability of the conflict, vulnerability of supply chains – have been in the realms of the ‘bleeding obvious’ to many people (and I’d guess most Unherd subscribers) since 2022.
What is new is Trump/Vance pointing out the reality that the emperor has no clothes. The war is unwinnable for Ukraine, the West cannot continue to pour endless billions of $ into the most corrupt country in Europe, and Ukraine in NATO will never be acceptable to Russia. So what was obvious to the enlightened few is suddenly becoming clear to the MSM-brainwashed masses.
Meanwhile, Europe and the UK continue their slide into geopolitical irrelevance by insisting that the solution to the war is….more war.
Contemporary populism has been forged in the fires of disappointment. Hmm. Really? It seems more forged in the authoritarian fires of compulsive moralists, whose interventionist messianic complexes always seem to leave a divided world in tatters. As in Ukraine, but also domestically in every Western country. Leaving the way open for a remedy, any remedy. As in, please God, any god, deliver us from the torturous and tortuous fire & brimstone progressives.